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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 | Science : Evolution and Biology | print version Print | Comments

Document Evolving Mistakes

by Olivia Judson

Reposted from:
http://judson.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/evolving-mistakes/index.html

Being the second part of an occasional series looking at mutations.

As I mentioned in the first installment of this series, mutations are the raw material for evolution, the ultimate source of innovation: without them, eyes could not get keener, nor feathers snazzier. Yet mutations are also a product of evolution. Which is to say, the rate at which you have mutations is a trait like any other - height, bushiness of eyebrows, number of tentacles and so on - and like any other trait, it can, and does, evolve.

Unlike most other traits, however, mutation rates have a direct effect on evolutionary potential. Understanding how mutation rates evolve thus gives an insight into the evolution of novelty. Nor is this just of academic interest: evolving mutation rates play an important role in the biology of some infectious diseases. So this week I want to consider some of the forces that shape mutation rates themselves.

To recap: mutations are accidental changes to an organism's DNA. They can happen for a number of reasons, but one of the most important is when the cellular machinery makes a mistake as it copies DNA from one cell to the next. The incidence of mutations, then, is affected by how good the machinery of the cell is at copying DNA. High fidelity copying means a low mutation rate; low fidelity means lots of mutations.

Mutations can happen whenever DNA is copied — whether you're making new skin or heart cells, or eggs and sperm. But from an evolutionary point of view, the mutations that matter are the ones that appear in a genome from one generation to the next.

At the physical level of DNA, there are many different kinds of mutations. The ones whose incidence is easiest to measure, and that I'm mainly talking about in this article, are "point mutations" and "indels" (or as I like to think of them, "infidels"). A point mutation is where one element in the DNA sequence is substituted for another, leaving the sequence the same length as it was before. Indel stands for "insertion or deletion"; here bits of sequence are added in or chopped out, usually as a result of the copying machinery slipping and losing its place.

The most obvious way for mutation rates to evolve is through changes—mutations-to the genes that affect how well DNA gets copied. And there are big differences in fidelity. The DNA copying machinery of the bread mold Neurospora crassa is about 10 times more accurate that of the gut bacterium E. coli, for example. Intriguingly, however, both organisms end up with about the same number of mutations each time their genomes are copied, because the genome of Neurospora is about 10 times bigger.

Most of the time, if a mutation has a detectable effect it will be a bad one, leading to disruption of a process that's working. This is because mutations are largely random. If you randomly changed some of the letters in this sentence, you'd bost likfly git rubbizh. Only once in a while would you produce a meaningful word - let alone an improvement.

So it is with mutations and DNA. In a pair of studies on E. coli, for instance, deleterious mutations were found to be 100,000 times more frequent than beneficial ones. Also, while many mutations are unequivocally harmful - they kill you - few are unequivocally helpful. The usefulness of a (non-lethal) change typically depends on circumstance. If you're an E. coli, a mutation that confers the ability to digest a particular sugar may be essential if that sugar is the main source of available fuel, but irrelevant in an environment where the sugar is lacking.

The observation that most visible mutations are harmful led the great geneticist Alfred Sturtevant to argue in 1937 that mutation rates should evolve to be as close to zero as possible. (Reaching zero is impossible, and anyway, after a point, the time and energy required to drive the mutation rate below a certain threshold will be so great that it's cheaper to have a few mutant offspring. In general, the more accurately the cell copies DNA, the more slowly it does so; and for many organisms, copying DNA too slowly is a disadvantage.)

For organisms such as humans, banana slugs or great white sharks, that regularly engage in sexual reproduction, Sturtevant is probably right: lower mutation rates are better. The reason is that for these organisms, mutations aren't necessary as an immediate source of genetic novelty. Sex does the job instead, shuffling genes and generating children that are genetically different from their parents.

But for some beings, mutations are the main immediate source of genetic novelty. This is where things get interesting.

The mutation rate champions are a group of viruses that include poliovirus and influenza A. These troublemakers don't use DNA to store their genetic information; instead, they use a related molecule, RNA. Their mutation rate is so high that, were it much higher, the viruses would go extinct, because all their progeny would carry lethal mutations. As it is, a high proportion of the progeny carry mutations that render them weak or dead.

A virus like poliovirus can bear a high death rate because each virus particle can quickly give rise to huge numbers - we're talking tens of thousands, or even millions - of descendants. If half of 10 million descendants die, you're still left with 5 million that are viable; of these, some will have beneficial mutations. Moreover, the survival of these viruses depends on their being able to change rapidly, in order to keep dodging the host's immune system. When the mutation rate is lower - and from time to time, mutants appear that do have a lower mutation rate —-the virus is more likely to be rounded up and destroyed.

Because their mutation rate is so close to the edge of the possible, one approach to treating infections caused by these viruses is "lethal mutagenesis." The idea is that if you can increase the viral mutation rate, you can force the viruses into a realm where all their progeny carry harmful mutations, and either die quickly or cannot reproduce.

Like viruses, many bacteria also depend on mutations for the rapid generation of genetic novelty. In comfortable, constant environments — say, a warm nutritious broth in a laboratory — a high mutation rate is a disadvantage. But when the going gets tough, mutators begin to thrive.

A mutator bacterium is one that has a mutation that disrupts part of the DNA copying apparatus. As a result, the fidelity of copying collapses, and the mutation rate skyrockets. In extreme cases — the so-called strong mutators - certain types of point mutation become 100 times more likely, while the incidence of small indels increases by a factor of 1,000.

Mutators generate many harmful mutations in their progeny, but they also generate far more beneficial ones than a regular Joe bacterium: because their mutation rate is high, they have a higher incidence of the rare but good mutations. So in circumstances where rapid genetic innovation is needed - such as famine, or an assault by viruses, or antibiotics, or the mammalian immune system — mutators have an advantage, and begin to spread. Mutators play an important role in some human diseases, for they accelerate the evolution of antibiotic resistance.

Mutators spread because they hitch-hike with the beneficial mutations they produce: the beneficial mutations are favored, and so are the mutator genes that caused them. But this alliance can become deadly. If the mutation rate continues to be very high, these bacteria, too, could tip over into a realm of lethal mutagenesis and extinction. And even if matters don't get as bad as that, there will often come a point — if, for example, the environment has stabilized again — where having a high mutation rate becomes a disadvantage. So for the owners of the beneficial mutations to thrive, the mutator gene must eventually get switched off again.

There are a couple of ways this can happen. Another mutation could restore the fidelity of the copying machinery. Or — this is rather clever - the mutator bacterium could acquire a high-fidelity version of the gene from a non-mutator through a process known as horizontal gene transfer. (Horizontal gene transfer is a bacterial equivalent of sex; it's entirely different from the sort of sex we have, not least because it doesn't happen between generations. When bacteria reproduce, they do it asexually, by dividing in two. When they have sex they do not reproduce; instead, they collect a few new genes which they immediately incorporate into their genome, and begin using. It's as though you were to get genes for, say, better teeth halfway through your life. Genes that confer antibiotic resistance are especially notorious for being spread through horizontal gene transfer.)

Genetic analyses of natural populations of E. coli suggest that anti-mutator genes have often been acquired through horizontal gene transfer — far more often than the average gene. Which suggests that the history of these bacteria has featured repeated oscillations from high fidelity to infidelity. At least for these critters, alterations to the mutation rate have repeatedly altered the pulse of evolution itself.

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NOTES:

When I refer to "DNA copying machinery," I mean not only the DNA polymerases involved in copying DNA, but also the various enzymes involved in preventing and repairing errors; mutations to any of these components can alter the mutation rate.

For per genome mutation rates and copying accuracy in Neurospora crassa and E. coli, see Table 4 of Drake, J.W., Charlesworth, B., Charlesworth, D., and Crow, J. F. 1998. "Rates of spontaneous mutation." Genetics 148: 1667-1686. This paper also provides an excellent (if technical) general review of mutation rates and how to measure them, as well as a discussion of the trade-off between speed and accuracy.

The rate of deleterious versus beneficial mutations in E. coli is reviewed in Denamur, E. and Matic, I. 2006. "Evolution of mutation rates in bacteria." Molecular Microbiology 60: 820-827; also see this paper for the rates of mutation in strong mutators (p. 821) and for a discussion of the circumstances that favor their spread.

For Sturtevant's remarks on why mutation rates should tend towards zero, see Sturtevant, A. H., 1937. "Essays on evolution. I. On the effects of selection on mutation rate." Quarterly Review of Biology 12: 464-467. (Note that this paper was written 16 years before the discovery of the structure of DNA.)

For high mutation rates in RNA viruses such as poliovirus and influenza A, see Anderson, J. P., Daifuku, R., and Loeb, L. A. 2004. "Viral error catastrophe by mutagenic nucleosides." Annual Review of Microbiology 58: 183-205. For lower mutation rates in poliovirus being linked to worse performance, see Vignuzzi, M., Stone, J. K., Arnold, J. J., Cameron, C. E. and Andino, R. 2006. "Quasispecies diversity determines pathogenesis through cooperative interactions in a viral population." Nature 439: 344-348. For lethal mutagenesis as an approach to curing viral diseases, see Bull, J. J., Sanjuán, R., and Wilke, C. O. 2007. "Theory of lethal mutagenesis for viruses." Journal of Virology 81: 2930-2939.

For the potentially lethal alliance between beneficial mutations and mutator genes, see Gerrish, P. J., Colato, A., Perelson, A. S., and Sniegowski, P. D. 2007. "Complete genetic linkage can subvert natural selection." Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 104: 6266-6271. For high mutation rates in bacteria in response to the presence of viruses, see Pal, C., Maciá M. D., Oliver, A., Schachar, I., and Buckling, A. 2007. "Coevolution with viruses drives the evolution of bacterial mutation rates." Nature 450: 1079-1081. For horizontal gene transfer of antimutator genes in E. coli see Denamur, E. et al 2000. "Evolutionary implications of the frequent horizontal transfer of mismatch repair genes." Cell 103: 711-721.

Many thanks to Gideon Lichfield, Jonathan Swire, Dan Haydon, Jan Drake, Jim Bull and Ivan Matic for insights, comments and suggestions.

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1. Comment #134081 by Quetzalcoatl on February 27, 2008 at 8:10 am

 avatarExcellent article. This would be a good reference next time a creationist tries to argue that mutations only damage the genome.

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2. Comment #134094 by bugaboo on February 27, 2008 at 8:35 am

I remember reading an article on the evolution of the dog published in PNAS a couple of years ago. The diversity we see today in dogs was accomplished very rapidly. The authors hypothesised that this rapid evolution was brought about not by single point mutations but variations in the number of tandem repeats in homeobox genes, which regulate body shape/size etc. A large number of genes expressed in the brain have the potential to undergo this type of change(Huntingtons eg)Could this go part of the way to explaining the great encephalisation seen in humans? I havent seen anything written on it. Anyway good article.

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3. Comment #134097 by ThoughtsonCommonToad on February 27, 2008 at 8:37 am

Fascinating. Viruses really are just bumbling along. A case where its quantity not quality. Again fascinating.

The stunning power of evolution is always summed up by this article for me. Evolving a Conscious Machine

And a question, I assume horizontal gene transfer is a precursor to sex? The evolution of sex is interesting but I only have an amateurs knowledge. One of my favourites is that sex evolved as a sort of cannibalism.

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4. Comment #134168 by SomeDanGuy on February 27, 2008 at 10:54 am

Fascinating article! At first I thought it was just going to re-hash things I already know, but it turned out to have some new insights I had not previously considered

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5. Comment #134256 by D'Arcy on February 27, 2008 at 1:29 pm

 avatarExcellent article especially for a non scientist such as myself. Exactly the sort of thing that should be posted on a site for rational thinking.

I heard a radio programme on BBC's Radio 4 about 15 months ago. "In Our Time", presented by Melvin Bragg. It was about micro-organisms. Whilst we know something about viruses and bacteria, there are whole swathes of other "critters" out there, or in there, about which we know virtually nothing. They can't be kept alive in the lab as yet and are therefore very difficult to investigate. The programme seems to be still available on the BBC web site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20070308.shtml

If you have the odd half hour well worth the listen.

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6. Comment #134257 by MelM on February 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm

A morale builder about viruses
I'm signed up for an email from the site "Talk Reason" which sends updates about new articles. Some I understand more than others and this is one of the "others"; however, I thought I'd pass it along since it has something for everyone--it really does.

From the email:
How a 'just so' story turns into just 'so?'-- HIV and the failures of Intelligent Design
By SA Smith

http://www.talkreason.org/articles/just-so-story.cfm

Abigail Smith, the graduate student conducting research with HIV viruses who recently forced Michael Behe to grudgingly admit error in his book "Edge of Evolution" (to our knowledge it was the first ever occurrence of a leading advocate of intelligent design admitting an error) tells in this post the exciting story of a new development in virusology. This is a vivid example of the fertility of the genuine science being so much in contrast with the abject futility of intelligent design "theory." It also is another devastating hit upon Behe's erroneous position as evinced in his latest book so highly praised by the Discovery Institute's pseudo-scientists.
published: Feb 27, 2008

Smith's blog: http://endogenousretrovirus.blogspot.com/

Practical applications!!! This really caught my attention:
In six months, evolutions 'just so story' led to new drug targets for new HIV/AIDS therapies, and a brand new avenue of research for immunologists and virologists all over the world (tetherins role in influenza, ebola, EBV, herpes, whoo!!!!.
The practical applications of evolution are worth stressing very heavily.
Religion has very often fought new discoveries but people have finally accepted them by giving the benefits (like life) priority over the holy men's dogma. That's the way it works. I have doubts about knocking the hard core nutters lose from their dogma, but the vast number of people sitting on the fence could be swayed by repeatedly informing them about applications. And, understanding about scientific "theory" is not required. I'm not suggesting giving up the epistemological battle; I'm suggesting adding practical applications and giving them priority of emphasis.

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7. Comment #134258 by annabanana on February 27, 2008 at 1:35 pm

 avatar
new development in virusology

Try virology, maybe? Ok, sorry, I just had to point that out.

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8. Comment #134260 by epeeist on February 27, 2008 at 1:40 pm

 avatarJust fixing your underline problem

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9. Comment #134323 by headcold on February 27, 2008 at 3:32 pm

You forgot to point out that evolution is just a theory, and a theory with holes in it at that.






Just kidding!

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10. Comment #134382 by Double Bass Atheist on February 27, 2008 at 4:55 pm

 avatarYet another excellent article!!!

As I was reading this, I was realizing that this is actually part of the problem... meaning that one has to read and actually spend time thinking about complex aspects of science.
By and large, people are intellectually lazy.

"God did it" is just so much easier!

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11. Comment #134387 by AshtonBlack on February 27, 2008 at 5:20 pm

 avatarVery interesting and well articulated article. I do worry about this paragraph though:
Because their mutation rate is so close to the edge of the possible, one approach to treating infections caused by these viruses is "lethal mutagenesis." The idea is that if you can increase the viral mutation rate, you can force the viruses into a realm where all their progeny carry harmful mutations, and either die quickly or cannot reproduce.


Would they know if this approach could lead, since the mutation rate is very high, to a more resistant virus, to the original treatment? Similar to "Super Resistant" bacteria that the media get heated about (I'm thinking MRSA.)

1) Virus is "treated" with a process that super speeds it's mutation rate.
2) A very few left "alive" mutate to be resistant to this form of treatment.
3) They then reproduce....

Or am I missing something?.

Perhaps the "treatment" doesn't work like that, or perhaps the mutation rate is so high that 100% of offspring carry lethal mutations.

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12. Comment #134481 by JuxtaMonkey on February 27, 2008 at 9:26 pm

 avatarThanks double bass atheist, my favorite subject! Microbiology. I tutor micro and nutrition. Article is on target. Very interesting idea about what ASHTONBLAKE quoted. Makes sense to me, I'd love to read more about that.
ASHTON BLAKE:
I am just hypothesizing here, but human cells create a substance known as interferon (helps with cancer, but especially viruses) Just a little quick simple virus lesson before proceeding...viruses are made up of either DNA or RNA. They are NOT an organism. The virus may have a protein coat over their prescribed nucleic acid (NA) or they may just be a piece of DNA or RNA laying around. Once making themselves available on objects that hopefully their host will touch. See, they have to get into their target host, by manipulating the cell wall to invite them in, and indeed, once a virus has made it to a defenseless cell, the cell invites them in and makes them 'feel' at home.
Once inside, the goal is to take over. Viruses have to use YOUR cell's machinery to reproduce itself. So, with its little piece of DNA or RNA (with an RNA it will start building protein...DNA communicates with RNA...not important right now)If it is DNA, it can insert itself into your DNA and take control of the cell's 'mother board'. Essentially, the cell will swell so much from being so full of viruses that the cell as no more room and will burst open (there are other ways, but this is the concept). At this point all the viruses are no longer contained by the cell's bilayer phospholipid and are now free to roam and invade other cells. 1 virus is now a 100 (probably A LOT more; viruses are tinni tiny). Well, if 1 cell is invaded, its future is inevitable. It's gone (our cells have but few resistances to viruses), it's dead, vanito, no hope, poor cell is going to die. And, so here is where that interferon stuff I was talking about earlier comes into play.
While the invaded cell has the unfortunate doom of death, it can send a signal to surrounding cells that stimulate them to "tighten ship", consequently, the surrounding cells stop movements of 'stuff' from going in or out. Meaning, the virus can not get through (even though the cell may want to let it in, like a bad boy a girl can't resist ;))
Cool eh?
Well, I am hypothesizing that the said proposed ideas mentioned in your qoute would be a little like treating cancer. You have to have a patient on a host of meds. If you can get the virus at a time in which healthy viable cells of the human body have seen minimal damage to surrounding tissue then perhaps making these viruses mutate to extinction in confined areas of the body (before they have reached 'pandemic' status of the body) and using only few body cells as sacrifices (since they are super speeding the mutation)then perhaps they can kill off, say a million viruses. Perhaps there would be a vast amount still left, however, remember the copying is so fast (like a copy of a copy of a copy) that the "popeye" viruses are few and far between. Placing a person on interferon therapy (and probably a lot more too) and keeping their body in excellent nutrition status (helping the body to make their own interferon which is way better) then the body might be able to fight off those few and far between 'he-man' viruses much much better in a much much smaller area. Being able to control these situations are really just helping the body do ITS job much more efficiently.

I hope I am not coming off like a "know-it-all". But, it would seem to me along those lines.

Another thing I find interesting about bacteria and viruses is how virtually all new 'biotherapy', insulin, and all the gene therapy they are discovering are, 1, is the backbone of evolution, but, 2, by watching bacteria transfer genes, viroids, and all their other mutations, has been the initiator of medical science to say, "Hey what if we did it just like that?" And they did! Freakin' A!
When I first walked in to school (a bumbling idiot) I had no clue how the hell insulin was made. They use 'extra' DNA contained within bacteria to (just how a virus would) insert the human gene for insulin. So, here we have a HUMAN gene in bacteria, and...bacteria freakin' make it! Insert bacteria with the human gene for insulin, put the critters in a little tube in solution, let em' make it, "hey we don't need this shit", bacteria spit it out in the solution, burn the solution down (poor bacteria), and vuala, you have insulin. Sounds so easy!
EFFING creationists! Beat that!...........God come down and looks around, and poof, a bunch of people standing around scratching their heads...thinking about it this way, how many people have died by suppressing technology? Does that mean Christians still kill? OK OK, I cannot directly equate it...or can we? I don't know. And people wonder why we resist god.

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13. Comment #134532 by Enlightenme.. on February 28, 2008 at 12:22 am

 avatarI love articles like this!
I was really surprised by the ratio of supposed beneficial/deleterious mutation in e-coli @ 1/100,000 I thought it should be 1 in manymillions.
Wonder how many of the 99.9% of extinct organisms simply got 'too perfect' to evolve when the environment changed through evolving towards Sturtevants ideal?

Ashton Black;
"Or am I missing something?"
I felt the same shiver down my spine at the thought of 'overspeeding virus evolvability' - life always finds a way, doesn't it?

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14. Comment #134619 by AshtonBlack on February 28, 2008 at 3:44 am

 avatarJuxtaMonkey:

Thank you, that was great. :). Yet another argument for us, in the struggle for education.

(by the way it's AshtonBlack, not AshtonBlake, no biggie, in fact I think Blake sounds a tiny bit cooler!)

Enlight:

For me, it wasn't so much a shiver, than a "Erm, excuse me, you've obviously though about this, but..."

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15. Comment #134627 by Geoff on February 28, 2008 at 3:56 am

 avatarJuxtaMonkey, that was briliant. thank you so much.

Every day I learn something on this site, from so many different people.

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16. Comment #134638 by Steve Zara on February 28, 2008 at 4:07 am

 avatarComment #134481 by JuxtaMonkey
I hope I am not coming off like a "know-it-all".


Nothing wrong with that :)

Why be embarassed about knowledge?

I find that genetic engineering of bacteria amazing too. This can also be done with "higher" organisms, such as yeasts (which we know a lot about growing, for other purposes).

As you say, talk of viruses is relevant to the issue of genetic engineering, as bacteria have clever mechanisms to break up any unwanted foreign DNA that gets into their cells, as this can be from viruses, so the DNA that is used has to be carefully designed. It is all rather wonderful, and a lot like software engineering.

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17. Comment #134680 by Geoff on February 28, 2008 at 5:12 am

 avatar

Nothing wrong with that :)

Why be embarassed about knowledge?



Indeed! You've hit another of my buttons there, Steve! It always irritates me when any demonstration of knowledge or intelligence is treated to comments like "know it all", "show-off", "clever dick" etc.

Until I came on here, I considered myself to be above average, "knowledge wise", and got those sort of comments a lot. Not that it ever stopped me "showing off"!

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18. Comment #134916 by Enlightenme.. on February 28, 2008 at 10:20 am

 avatar^ "I considered myself to be above average, "knowledge wise","

Welcome in, I'm also part of the 95% who consider themselves 'above average' ;)

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19. Comment #134922 by ridelo on February 28, 2008 at 10:32 am

I was a bit confused about the terms "beneficial" and "harmful". Beneficial and harmful for the critters, not for us, their possible victims.
That's my anthropocentric vision of the world, I suppose.

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20. Comment #134925 by Geoff on February 28, 2008 at 10:35 am

 avatarEnlightenme #18

indeed, but please notice the careful use of the past tense!

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21. Comment #134931 by Steve Zara on February 28, 2008 at 10:56 am

 avatarComment #134925 by Geoff
indeed, but please notice the careful use of the past tense!


My dear fellow. You are amongst your peers here. Your Lovecraft/prize day post was wonderful, and something I shall pass on to Lovecraft-fan friends.

Don't underestimate yourself.

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22. Comment #134935 by Geoff on February 28, 2008 at 11:01 am

 avatarMy natural modesty! I'll try not to let it show again!

Slightly more seriously, I can't think of anyone in my "real life" circle of acquaintances with whom I could have such varied and enlightening (and often somewhat bizarre!) conversations. I love the internet for that kind of thing (as well as for resources like the eol); I do wish it had been around when I was younger.

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23. Comment #134939 by Geoff on February 28, 2008 at 11:08 am

 avatarYeah, well, I like the porn as well....

But yes, this site is very special, as are all the links down the left. Pharyngula is another of my favourites (that I only found out about from TGD, as I did with this one).

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24. Comment #134946 by Quetzalcoatl on February 28, 2008 at 11:19 am

 avatarGeoff-

if you like science you should check out the New Scientist website too. That covers a wide range, and is very informative.

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25. Comment #134989 by hello on February 28, 2008 at 12:29 pm

 avatarCan any of you clever scientists point me to a web-site which explains how sexual reproduction evolved?

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26. Comment #135007 by JuxtaMonkey on February 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm

 avatargood question...um let me go look around

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27. Comment #135010 by JuxtaMonkey on February 28, 2008 at 12:42 pm

 avatarhello,

I found a load of stuff in an instant by googleing "evolution of sexual reproduction"

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28. Comment #135014 by hello on February 28, 2008 at 12:48 pm

 avatarJuxtaMonkey

I found a load of stuff in an instant by googleing "evolution of sexual reproduction"


Me too.....None of what I found explained the beginnings.

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29. Comment #135019 by ThoughtsonCommonToad on February 28, 2008 at 12:55 pm


3. Comment #134097 by ThoughtsonCommonToad
And a question, I assume horizontal gene transfer is a precursor to sex? The evolution of sex is interesting but I only have an amateurs knowledge. One of my favourites is that sex evolved as a sort of cannibalism.

I don't know why this thread hasn't provoked more discussion. It's one of the best I've read in a while on this site.

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30. Comment #135030 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Best start here Can any of you clever scientists point me to a web-site which explains how sexual reproduction evolved? then follow the links.
As Bapteste et al. (2005) observe, "additional evidence suggests that gene transfer might also be an important evolutionary mechanism in protist evolution."[6]

However,
Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, a noted scientist and critic of genetic engineering, writes: "While horizontal gene transfer is well-known among bacteria, it is only within the past 10 years that its occurrence has become recognized among higher plants and animals. The scope for horizontal gene transfer is essentially the entire biosphere, with bacteria and viruses serving both as intermediaries for gene trafficking and as reservoirs for gene multiplication and recombination (the process of making new combinations of genetic material)."[7]

This suggests to me that HGT might be seen as a precursor to sex, it still occurs and that the sexual reproduction as we know it has another origin.
We probably have to go back to plants to see differentiation happening. There are male and female plant parts. Pollen is the male component - if you live near pine trees and get coated in that golden dust which makes me sneeze you are effectively being coated in tree sperm :-) Same with corals etc in the sea - they are the animal equivalent. Though releasing the male gamete works in that if one releases enough and the female gametes are in fairly close proximity, fertilisation will occur, I dare say when a mutation caused the male not to release all the gemetes out willy-nilly but deposit them into the female next door, evolution was onto something.
Complete conjecture - I'll keep looking :-)

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31. Comment #135088 by Enlightenme.. on February 28, 2008 at 2:11 pm

 avatar^ "...the male not to release all the gemetes out willy-nilly but deposit them into the female next door..."

It's a bit dry out on land under the hot sun - they need to be kept alive in a warm moist environment, happily for us,
'cos..

Everee sperm is sacred, everee sperm is gooood,
eevry sperm is neeeeded, in your neighbourhood,
..iiiiif a sperm gets waaaysted, god gets quite iraaaate.

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32. Comment #135118 by Donald on February 28, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Can any of you clever scientists point me to a web-site which explains how sexual reproduction evolved? - hello
As our hero Richard Dawkins is fond of saying, we don't know, science is working on it.

But it already seems likely that the evolution of sexual reproduction started with prokaryotic cells that were capable of fusing together, to make a double-size cell with two copies of the chromosomes. As a separate step in evolution, some prokaryotic cells might have become polyploid (e.g. had two copies of their chromosomes) - this would give the advantages of redundancy, and the possibility of repair of genetic damage.

For sexual reproduction, there must be an intermediate stage in the act of reproduction when a cell has double the usual number of chromosomes - this is so that the chromosomes can pair off, and then be copied by a copying mechanism that sometimes switches between the strands, thus creating a new chromosome which is some mixture of the two original strands.

To evolve sexual reproduction, prokaryotes with polyploid DNA would have to reproduce by: (1) fusing, then (2) have the postulated "double chromosome copy" mechanism work on a mixture of chromosomes from the fused cell, rather than on chromosomes that only came from one of the pre-fusion cells.

All this is feasible, given what is currently known about chromosomes and meiosis, and the associated biochemistry. But since the evolution from simple prokaryotes to full sexual reproduction may have taken a hundred million years, occurring 3 billion years ago, we may never be able to identify the main sequence with any definite precision. But I think it's a safe bet that we'll have some possible routes worked out in some detail within a few decades.

There is quite a bit about prokaryotes and eukaryotes in wikipedia.

But to answer your original question, there is a little bit about the possible evolution of sexual reproduction in:
http://www.dorak.info/evolution/sreprod.html

BTW, do read the God Delusion. You might as well know what Dawkins has said, even if you don't believe it.

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33. Comment #135202 by NakedCelt on February 28, 2008 at 5:34 pm

What's the mutation rate in bdelloid rotifers?

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34. Comment #135230 by Kevin A Jones on February 28, 2008 at 6:26 pm

 avatarJuxtaMonkey-
Awesome summation. You are right, the Creationists have no answer for science other than, "Uumm, God did it...."
Funny thing is, they will use science when it suits them while denying its implications. Kinda like PETA. Check out the PETA clips, Parts 1 - 3 from Penn and Teller's show, especially the the third part, you'll appreciate them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTQCQ1eI7Is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWPkNvWOxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK1wE3-aKqo

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35. Comment #135393 by JuxtaMonkey on February 28, 2008 at 10:43 pm

 avatarOh yes, Penn and Teller, love em. And I've already seen that episode. I own the DVD's I am shameless.

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36. Comment #135530 by Geoff on February 29, 2008 at 4:20 am

 avatarQuetzalcoatl #24:

Yep I do like the New Scientist site, I also like this one:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/

Steve, have you deleted some of your posts from this thread? I'm confused (not an unusual ocurrence...)

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37. Comment #135845 by BillySands on February 29, 2008 at 9:44 am

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Can any of you clever scientists point me to a web-site which explains how sexual reproduction evolved?


I smell troll

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38. Comment #135856 by JuxtaMonkey on February 29, 2008 at 9:51 am

 avatarBillySands,

You mean that green good for nothing tool?

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