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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Sci-fi guru Clarke to have secular funeral

by CNN

Thanks to Nyegosh Dube for the link.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/03/19/obit.clarke.ap/index.html

Sci-fi guru Clarke to have secular funeral

COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) -- Even in death Arthur C. Clarke would not compromise his vision.

The famed science fiction writer, who once denigrated religion as "a necessary evil in the childhood of our particular species," left written instructions that his funeral be completely secular, according to his aides.

"Absolutely no religious rites of any kind, relating to any religious faith, should be associated with my funeral," he wrote.

Clarke died early Wednesday at age 90 and was to be buried in a private funeral this weekend in his adopted home of Sri Lanka. (Blog: In praise of Arthur C. Clarke)

Clarke, who had battled debilitating post-polio syndrome for years, had suffered breathing problems in recent days, aide Rohan De Silva said.

The visionary author won worldwide acclaim with more than 100 books on space, science and the future. The 1968 story "2001: A Space Odyssey" -- written simultaneously as a novel and screenplay with director Stanley Kubrick -- was a frightening prophecy of artificial intelligence run amok.

One year after it made Clarke a household name in fiction, the scientist entered the homes of millions of Americans alongside Walter Cronkite anchoring television coverage of the Apollo mission to the moon.

Clarke also was credited with the concept of communications satellites in 1945, decades before they became a reality. Geosynchronous orbits, which keep satellites in a fixed position relative to the ground, are called Clarke orbits.

His nonfiction volumes on space travel and his explorations of the Great Barrier Reef and Indian Ocean earned him respect in the world of science, and in 1976 he became an honorary fellow of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

But it was his writing that shot him to his greatest fame and that gave him the greatest fulfillment.

"Sometimes I am asked how I would like to be remembered," Clarke said recently. "I have had a diverse career as a writer, underwater explorer and space promoter. Of all these, I would like to be remembered as a writer."

From 1950, he began a prolific output of both fiction and nonfiction, sometimes publishing three books in a year.

A statement from Clarke's office said he had recently reviewed the final manuscript of his latest novel. "The Last Theorem," co-written with Frederik Pohl, will be published later this year, it said.

Some of his best-known books are "Childhood's End," 1953; "The City and The Stars," 1956; "The Nine Billion Names of God," 1967; "Rendezvous with Rama," 1973; "Imperial Earth," 1975; and "The Songs of Distant Earth," 1986.

When Clarke and Kubrick got together to develop a movie about space, they looked for inspiration to several of Clarke's shorter pieces. As work progressed on the screenplay, Clarke also wrote a novel of the story. He followed it up with "2010," "2061," and "3001: The Final Odyssey."

Planetary scientist Torrence Johnson said Clarke's work was a major influence on many in the field.

Johnson, who has been exploring the solar system through the Voyager, Galileo and Cassini missions in his 35 years at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, recalled a meeting of planetary scientists and rocket engineers where talk turned to the author.

"All of us around the table said we read Arthur C. Clarke," Johnson said. "That was the thing that got us there."

In an interview with The Associated Press, Clarke said he did not regret having never traveled to space himself, though he arranged to have DNA from his hair sent into orbit.

"One day, some super civilization may encounter this relic from the vanished species and I may exist in another time," he said. "Move over, Stephen King."

Clarke, a British citizen, won a host of science fiction awards, and was named a Commander of the British Empire in 1989. Clarke was officially given a knighthood in 1998, but he delayed accepting it for two years after a London tabloid accused him of being a child molester. The allegation was never proved.

Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa lauded Clarke for his passion for his adopted home and his efforts to aid its progress.

"We were all proud to have this celebrated author, visionary and promoter of space exploration, prophet of satellite communications, great humanist and lover of animals in our midst," he said in a statement.

Born in Minehead, western England, on December 16, 1917, the son of a farmer, Arthur Charles Clark became addicted to science fiction after buying his first copies of the pulp magazine "Amazing Stories" at Woolworth's.

He read English writers H.G. Wells and Olaf Stapledon and began writing for his school magazine in his teens.

Clarke went to work as a clerk in Her Majesty's Exchequer and Audit Department in London, where he joined the British Interplanetary Society and wrote his first short stories and scientific articles on space travel.

It was not until after World War II that Clarke received a bachelor of science degree in physics and mathematics from King's College in London.

Serving in the wartime Royal Air Force, he wrote a 1945 memo about the possibility of using satellites to revolutionize communications. Clarke later sent it to a publication called Wireless World, which almost rejected it as too far-fetched.

He moved to Sri Lanka in 1956.

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1. Comment #146786 by Madmaili on March 19, 2008 at 12:06 pm

 avatarPeople make far too much fuss about what happens to their remains and those of other people when they die.

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2. Comment #146795 by Ian Bamlett on March 19, 2008 at 12:15 pm

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People make far too much fuss about what happens to their remains and those of other people when they die.



Absolutely! The only thing that is a bigger waste of space than a graveyard is a golf course.

Turn them all into parks for families to have picnics I say.

:-)

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3. Comment #146797 by Driver on March 19, 2008 at 12:17 pm

 avatarNot to take away from Arthur, but my biggest concern is not my funeral. It's what happens to me after my funeral.

I have requested to have my body donated to the local Health Sciences Center. My very religious mother refuses to do so. I tried to compromise by agreeing to a religious funeral.

Hopefully I will outlive my mother.

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4. Comment #146804 by Vaal on March 19, 2008 at 12:23 pm

 avatarI don't know. I would like to be there to have paid him my last respects.

Classic quote...

The famed science fiction writer, who once denigrated religion as "a necessary evil in the childhood of our particular species"


Personally, I would like to burn on a pyre on top of my brother's car when I go, just to piss him off! :-)) We are friends really, just a brother thing!

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5. Comment #146805 by HarryHUK on March 19, 2008 at 12:28 pm

"The 1968 story"2001:A Space Odyssey" written simultaneously as a novel and screenplay with director Stanley Kubrick was a frightening prophecy of artificial intelligence run amok"
I don't think so!

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6. Comment #146810 by Ian Bamlett on March 19, 2008 at 12:46 pm

 avatarComment #146805 by HarryHUK

I don't think so!


I'm sorry Harry, I can't let you do say that.

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7. Comment #146824 by bluebird on March 19, 2008 at 1:14 pm

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...DNA from his hair sent into orbit


Didn't realize A.C. Clarke popularized the idea of a Space Elevator...fascinating stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

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8. Comment #146834 by Machinus on March 19, 2008 at 1:24 pm

I think it's quite important to pay attention to burial rituals. In a society where we are harassed by mysticism even in death it makes a strong point to rid ourselves and our friends of this menace whenver we can. It would be a dishonor to respect such stupid beliefs during the recognition of someone with as beloved contributions as ACC.

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9. Comment #146839 by Stafford Gordon on March 19, 2008 at 1:29 pm

I have no scientific credentials what so ever and science fiction has no appeal to me at all. The latter being the case simply because science fact is so profoundly rich, rewarding, enlightening and life enhancing that to me anything made up is nowadays pretty poor by comparison.

However, I have long been secretly of the opinion that there may be some evolutionary element attached to religion, and I'm relieved to learn that Arthur C Clarke thaught the same; now I can "COME OUT"!

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10. Comment #146868 by rod-the-farmer on March 19, 2008 at 1:52 pm

 avatarDriver said

I have requested to have my body donated to the local Health Sciences Center. My very religious mother refuses to do so. I tried to compromise by agreeing to a religious funeral.

Surely you jest. You have absolute control over your own funeral, and disposal of your body, after discussion with the people performing whatever "service" you choose. I suggest you enlist the assistance of both the local Health Sciences Center, and your chosen funeral home, to make sure your wishes are followed. You might also check with the local police, to determine if anyone interfering with the wishes of the deceased, is subject to penalties under the law. I am sure all this will only cause a rift with your mother, but she gave up control over you when you reached the age of majority.

I have given instructions that anyone praying at my funeral, will be booted in the rear, out of the room. This will be announced at the start.

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11. Comment #146883 by FightingFalcon on March 19, 2008 at 2:09 pm

 avatarI strongly suggest that everyone fills out both a Living Will and a regular Will if they are concerned about what they want to happen to them should they become mentally incapacitated or die.

My mother would never agree to my wishes to be removed from life support after 6 months or to have my body donated to science. I left my brother (a de facto Atheist due to apathy toward religion) in charge of my remains b/c I know that he would honor them.

If you a living will/last will and testament that expresses your wishes, then its a legally binding document. At least here in America. There would be nothing that a family member could do, should they object. In the post-Terri Schiavo world, I suggest everyone gets a living will.

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12. Comment #146886 by Enlightenme.. on March 19, 2008 at 2:12 pm

 avatar"..of the opinion that there may be some evolutionary element attached to religion"

Yep,- fight, flight, feed, f***, or fawn.

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13. Comment #146921 by ronfac on March 19, 2008 at 2:52 pm

rod-the-farmer:

Ha! I thought I was the only one. I have directed three of my very large nephews that anyone praying at my funeral should be chucked out the nearest window. Is this a Canadian thing : )

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14. Comment #146949 by Pattern Seeker on March 19, 2008 at 3:16 pm

 avatarAll I can say is-

A friend introduced me to Clarke's sci-fi writings about 15 years ago with 'Childhood's End.' Simply incredible. Haven't been the same since...

'2001: A Space Odyssey' is the greatest science fiction movie ever made. Period. All other sci-fi movies have either tried to top it or just plain imitate it (story, FX, etc.), but to no avail. Regardless, writers and filmmakers around the world have been paying homage to it since its arrival...

Finally-A quote from Sir Arthur, maybe not his most famous, but
definitely my favorite..."Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Boo...

Hoo... I look forward to the day when I introduce my 3-year old son to your work. We'll miss you Sir Arthur!

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15. Comment #146953 by theantitheist on March 19, 2008 at 3:20 pm

 avatarNot at all,

I've very specifically told my Brother he is allowed to squirt any doing anything religous at my cremation with a water cannon filled with piss (hopefully i will have been able to leave a sample, as that would be a great touch). However i'm considering borrowing one of the suggestions on here that the funeral pyre is on top of my brothers car, in which case he will probably use the water cannon to put out the flames.

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16. Comment #146956 by flobear on March 19, 2008 at 3:22 pm

 avatarI've been a long time admirer of Clarke's books. He was one of many influences that led to my career in science. I'm glad he wants a secular funeral. They're so much more meaningful.

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17. Comment #146994 by Lucas on March 19, 2008 at 4:22 pm

 avatarStafford and Enlightenme - "There may be some evolutionary element attached to religion." - Ah, so the elephant in this room rears its head once again... Will we run with it this time, or put it back in its box?

rod - I would have to say, actually, you have absolutely no control over your own funeral, just because once your dead, whoever's alive can do whatever they want with your body, y'know? We can only hope that we leave some family or friends behind who will do what we'd like, or some law in place that suggests our wishes be followed. But there sure aren't any guarantees. I made a pact with my best friend many years ago, and neither he or I have laid out the specifics in any legal document, but we trust each other to know what to do, or at least what not to do. Of course, whoever outlives the other will have to figure out something else.

Arthur, you were the best. Thank you for everything.

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18. Comment #146997 by Gymnopedie on March 19, 2008 at 4:27 pm

What an amazing legacy this man left behind.

As for the obsession with our own funerals, wasn't it Freud that commented extensively on that strange habit? Maybe it is similiar to that whole MySpace style obsession with people talking and thinking about you when you aren't there.

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19. Comment #147020 by joshuaslocum on March 19, 2008 at 5:21 pm

Hi all,


It's interesting that Clarke's funeral is bringing up the topic of living wills and funeral plans. All to the good, I say. I want to clear up some misconceptions and offer some information I hope you'll find useful. I'm only speaking from an American knowledge base, mind you. I'm the director of nonprofit, educational charity called Funeral Consumers Alliance. Think of us as the watchdogs who try to protect the grieving from overpaying for funerals, and from having their choices taken away from them by an often avaricious funeral industry. I'm an expert on funeral law in the United States from a consumer perspective (I say that not to be immodest, but to indicate that what I'm telling you comes from real legal research, it's not just my opinion).

1. A will is not going to do you any good as far as your funeral goes. Why? Because it's almost never read until well after the body is buried. Please, please don't believe a will is the proper place to make your funeral plans - that's a longstanding but self-defeating myth.

The proper place for your funeral plans is in a written document that you have made copies of and distributed to your likely survivors. The conversation is just as important as the document itself - you're doing no one any favors if you write out a document in secret and put it in a lock box at the bank.


2. How much control you have over what happens to your body at death varies by state law. In all states, in the absence of any contrary instructions, your legal next of kin by marriage or blood have the right to decide every last thing about your funeral. In some states, the deceased's wishes simply are not recognizeable under law. That's a fact, however unpleasant it may be.

But, a majority of US states have laws we call "personal preference" or "designated agent" laws. They allow a person to make legally binding funeral wishes known (to the extent they're legal, practical, and someone can pay for them), or to designate an agent, some other person, to have the sole authority to direct the funeral. This is especially useful for gays and lesbians, or people in families who are likely to war with each other over your dead body.

Here is a list of those state laws - if your state has them, it's a really good idea to take advantage of them today by writing up an expression of your wishes:

http://www.funerals.org/pref.htm


I don't want to derail the conversation, but if you're interested in funeral issues, what your legal rights are, and how to avoid being soaked by a high-priced funeral home, please visit our web site at http://www.funerals.org

Please excuse the 1995-vintage site. It's hard in the nonprofit world to raise money for things like site development. We will have a totally redesigned, easy to use and up to date site live at that address within the next week.

I hope this is helpful.

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20. Comment #147045 by clunkclickeverytrip on March 19, 2008 at 5:47 pm

CNN thinks a secular funeral, per se, is worthy of mention in a headline - very strange. It's like announcing the Pope's funeral will be a Catholic funeral.
The Pope having a secular funeral would be newsworthy...

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21. Comment #147048 by the_ultimate_samurai on March 19, 2008 at 5:50 pm

i find funerals to be generaly useless, what i would want is just for them to leave my body in a woods uncovered for animals...is that legal? i know it is in tibet...thats the standard practice there.

for a funeral, just invite people over to the house. since i know the funeral has less to do with me and more to do with the survivors i wouldnt say "dont hold a funeral" that would be selfish...but i would say "dont book a funeral home" i dont want a casket, i dont want some expensive funeral, i dont want them to spend any more money than is legaly required. (hate the funeral business, bunch of parasites preying on the weak)

that donation to science sounds nice (though i'd be missing organs since im a full organ donar)

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22. Comment #147054 by Gymnopedie on March 19, 2008 at 6:04 pm

samurai, I have the funniest scene playing in my head of taking a walk through a state forest and finding your fresh corpse on the ground will all your organs surgically plucked out (too odd? fine). If only Monty Python would have known about Tibetan burial practices...

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23. Comment #147062 by Goldy on March 19, 2008 at 6:18 pm

PArt and parcel of funerals are commemoration. Here's something I thought ratehr nice...in today's Telegraph
Arthur C Clarke's orbit

Sir - One of Arthur C. Clarke's inspirations was the "synchronous geostationary orbit". Let us honour his memory by always referring to satellites as being in a "Clarke Orbit".

Rodney Witter, Chester


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24. Comment #147152 by Enlightenme.. on March 20, 2008 at 12:47 am

 avatar^ Only geostationary satellites are in the 22,000 mile Clarke orbit - they've been labelled as such for years.

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25. Comment #147165 by rod-the-farmer on March 20, 2008 at 1:24 am

 avatarI should correct a small omission from my previous post about funeral arrangements. My wife tells me if I get really silly when I get really old, she will dispose of me (while alive, and despite any objections on my part !) in the Inuit fashion - by pushing me out on an ice floe, on Lake Erie, near our house. (Erie is one of the Great Lakes, and it sometimes freezes in winter.) That would neatly avoid any chance of prayer by those attending, unless of course my wife asks for an off-shore wind.

On the other hand, both she and her older sister have made the identical comment to their respective husbands, on observing their mother, who is nearly 90 years old, and to be frank, some of her marbles occasionally escape........"Shoot me if I get like that."

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26. Comment #147169 by irate_atheist on March 20, 2008 at 1:29 am

 avatarI intend avoiding the whole funeral problem by not dying. I haven't so far, so I see no reason why I should in the future.

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27. Comment #147175 by PJG on March 20, 2008 at 1:43 am

 avatarRod the Farmer

Next of kin have the right to over-turn the wishes of a person who donates their body to science. (I believe this is true in the UK at least, though I filled in the forms some years ago and things may have changed).

I think this is right. As things stand at the moment, my husband is in agreement that I should be able to donate my body. However, depending on the age I am, and the circumstances of my death (assuming he outlives me) I would want my husband to have the final say so that he can cope with his bereavement in the best way for him at the time. (He is my priority).

Driver
I have requested to have my body donated to the local Health Sciences Center. My very religious mother refuses to do so. I tried to compromise by agreeing to a religious funeral.


I assume it is possible to register someone other than a mother as next of kin, someone who will abide by your wishes to benefit living people after your death. What is the difference between donating organs and donating the whole body? Does your mother oppose the donation of organs? It may be a way to talk to her if she doesn't mind you giving your corneas, heart, lungs etc. away. Maybe you could ask her which bits God wants and which bits can go to benefit other (living) humans!

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28. Comment #147372 by Neville on March 20, 2008 at 8:29 am

Funerals are for the living - yes. But my life has experienced the damage done by religion to me, to society and to those who would otherwise have been happy human beings. I campaign against its menace now, and while I will not be able to continue doing so post mortem in books (as will be the case with Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, et al) my secular funeral will be my final campaign.

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29. Comment #147383 by robotaholic on March 20, 2008 at 8:54 am

 avatarI have not a single wish with regard to my remains either brian faux.. - other than that I'm not burried alive lol

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30. Comment #147486 by the great teapot on March 20, 2008 at 3:49 pm

I am sure he is looking over us all now with a wry smile on his face.

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31. Comment #147489 by ebugogo on March 20, 2008 at 4:05 pm

 avatarHahaha. Must be a Canadian thing. I too made it clear to my family not to allow any voodoo at my funeral.

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32. Comment #147494 by chuckgoecke on March 20, 2008 at 4:56 pm

 avatarJust as I now use the idle processing power of my Mac Mini to help science, when I pass on, I hope my organs and tissues of any value will be used for transplantation, and the rest of my body, given to science, perhaps to help a team of medical students become better doctors.

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33. Comment #147497 by Geoff on March 20, 2008 at 5:40 pm

 avatarMy organs are all to be donated: I suspect they'll be used as warnings.

"Look, this is what happens to your liver/stomach/lungs/brain/penis/whatever...if you drink/overeat/smoke~~~~~whatever"

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34. Comment #147511 by AfraidToDie on March 20, 2008 at 6:56 pm

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19. Comment #147020 by joshuaslocum


Thanks for all the fantastic advice. Now I just need to file that where I can get to it in case my wife dies first. It just seems so odd to take care of such detail arrangements well in advance of your own death, especially when I don't attend to that much detail pertaining to life.

Here's a question for everyone with an opinion on funeral services: I always hear that a funeral service provides "closure" for the family. The same comment is heard by those missing a body. They need the body for "closure". I for one, do not believe I have ever needed whatever "closure" is supposed to represent. I don't believe attending a funeral has ever done anything for me except make me feel detached and weird. Is there really such a thing as "closure", or is it just a bunch of bullshit as I suspect?

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35. Comment #147518 by mrgoodjob on March 20, 2008 at 8:01 pm

After I die I want to be turned into a grand taxidermic statue. And if I leave a substantial estate, I will request that whomever inherits my fortune will be required to display my wonderfully grotesque statue in their front lawn, without obstructions, for as long as they wish to prodigalize my funds.

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36. Comment #147561 by dlitt on March 20, 2008 at 10:20 pm

 avatarDrop my cadaver in a 'body farm' where they can study the life cycle of the blowfly maggot.
As long as a funeral parlor doesn't get a plug nickel.

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37. Comment #147599 by dlitt on March 21, 2008 at 12:17 am

 avatarI want a Roman style 'death mask' cast of my willy first - then nailed on the door of an American Mega-Church.

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38. Comment #147627 by esuther on March 21, 2008 at 3:02 am

I don't have a religion, but I DO have an ego, so I have asked my loved ones (the ones who will inherit at least some of my money) to cremate me and then have a party at which they are required to say good things about me. Of course I can't control what they say, but they are delighted that I will be paying for the party so that should help.
In addition, since I have no children, but I HAVE written novels -- and thus have intellectual progeny -- I have asked my heirs to be sure to distribute lots of my novels as souvenirs to people at the party. Everyone love reading a posthumous writer, right? A pity I won't see the royalties.

esuther (writing as Justine Saracen)

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39. Comment #147790 by dlitt on March 21, 2008 at 8:48 am

 avatarWhat I've read on the subject of body disposal and environmental issues - cremation is bad for greenhouse gas emissions. The best way to dispose of a corpse is to drop it vertically in a hole like a plug.

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40. Comment #148309 by AtheistAspy on March 22, 2008 at 3:50 pm

 avatarI'd like to die by physician-assisted suicide when I'm old and already close to death. I'd also like to have friends and family there when it happens (I don't want to die alone). I'll probably donate my body, though I'm not sure how much good they can do with a shriveled old corpse. Maybe if I died young they could do something with it.

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