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It is easter so once again religion is given it's special place. I am like most atheists happy to accept that christians celebrate this festival, and assign it any meaning they choose, and gain any comfort they can from it. However, I am not glad that on the basis of a quite absurd faith (please go to the vatican website and look up transubstantiation as an example) an individuals views on scientific questions are front page news and an important ethical & scientific debate is trivialised by his ignorant intervention. I refer to the Sunday Herald and the debate on the Human emryology bill, I'm sure the articles will appear here in due course meantime go to: http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2140437.0.0.php3. Comment #148445 by JemyM on March 23, 2008 at 5:26 am
4. Comment #148446 by Richard Morgan on March 23, 2008 at 5:29 am
I do not need God to help me wonder. I am patient and will, if need be, await the contribution of genetics and neurology to our understanding of art.This article is pleasant reading for a Sunday morning.
5. Comment #148448 by Richard Morgan on March 23, 2008 at 5:31 am
Excuse me for interrupting this thread.What would music inspired by the fleas sound like?This composition is my answer.
http://richarddawkins.net/article,2303,Add-another-flea-to-the-list,RichardDawkinsnet
Something to make them seem ridiculous, pathetic, desperate?
I'm chronically tone-deaf to the point where I didn't know what all the fuss was about when Jemini were the UK entry to the Eurovision Song Contest. My beloved teases me mercilessly about it. I tried to come up with some praise beyond "That sounds nice", or "I liked the wobbly bit with all those notes in it" but my abilities fail me utterly when it comes to describing my appreciation of music..But Cartomancer is one of our most remarkable contributors, and deserved an, er, shall we say, appropriate musical portrait, with recognisable sounds.
NEW! (23/03/2008) 1. EXPELLED, another hole in the sock.
For PZ Myers
BULLSHIT? This composition has already been banned by 18 radio stations in the USA and by most of my family.
6. Comment #148451 by keith on March 23, 2008 at 5:50 am
And you know what I find truly wonderful? It's the human capacity to experience wonder.
7. Comment #148454 by Geoff on March 23, 2008 at 6:06 am
8. Comment #148463 by HitbLade on March 23, 2008 at 6:25 am
Ahhh, it's good being Swedish, amirite JemyM?9. Comment #148465 by Logicel on March 23, 2008 at 6:26 am
10. Comment #148469 by lievemebe on March 23, 2008 at 6:41 am
Most religions are smart enough to use spring as a metaphor for reincarnation. Birds sing, eggs hatch, buds burst into life and, if you like, God is love. Only a misanthrope would deny the stirring of springtime juices and not dream of resurrection.
I cannot argue with a man who "believes" the Earth to be flat.
11. Comment #148486 by Corylus on March 23, 2008 at 7:40 am
Gray's attack on Dawkins is anything but disciplined....This is Tony Blair's trick (in opposing a "naive, outdated socialism") of using qualifiers to get inconvenient nouns off the hook.That is the smartest thing I have read this weekend.
12. Comment #148499 by Pattern Seeker on March 23, 2008 at 8:09 am
13. Comment #148519 by babrock on March 23, 2008 at 8:45 am
Who is this John Grey and what debate is this artical refering to?14. Comment #148523 by Mark Smith on March 23, 2008 at 8:49 am
babrock15. Comment #148541 by Madmaili on March 23, 2008 at 9:20 am
16. Comment #148576 by Tycho the Dog on March 23, 2008 at 10:27 am
"Harries claims to find God in such concepts as beauty and artistic creativity. A sign of His handiwork is humanity's eternal assault on the mountains of the sublime."And of course in cancerous tumours, and degenerative nervous diseases, and parasites, and malarial mosquitos, and the lacerated face of someone who's been attacked with a broken bottle. Ah sweet wonder of God.
17. Comment #148589 by Satanburiedfossils on March 23, 2008 at 11:05 am
18. Comment #148593 by Richard Morgan on March 23, 2008 at 11:12 am
KeithYe Gods, I think I'm going to be sick.I'm sorry about that. Please forgive me. Since I've turned 60 I often have that effect on girls. It's a little worrying....
19. Comment #148612 by suffolkthinker on March 23, 2008 at 11:57 am
The author describes himself as a "Marxist". That alone is enough to show people he can read something and not understand a word of what is written.20. Comment #148625 by mjwemdee on March 23, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Were religion merely "faith" it would indeed be incomprehensible. The trouble starts when it lays proprietary claim to normal words such as truth, goodness, beauty, virgin birth, resurrection and salvation, and redefines them to its own ends.I finally 'came out' to my born-again Christian sister just recently and have just got around to the whole business of semantics. We are looking forward to a lively (and no doubt ultimately ineffectual) debate about our different outlooks, but I've already seen how her use of language is slippery to say the least.
Words must carry agreed meanings if humans are to live happily together. [...] I cannot argue with a man who "believes" the Earth to be flat. Most people regard the idea as absurd unless the word flat is redefined to mean round. I feel the same about Easter's "resurrection of the dead".
21. Comment #148629 by mikejswalker on March 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Keith,22. Comment #148665 by ImagineAll on March 23, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Last night, I went over to a friends' house. We painted easter eggs and ate chocolate.23. Comment #148730 by Mitchell Gilks on March 23, 2008 at 5:05 pm
24. Comment #148748 by corruptmemory on March 23, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Nice article.25. Comment #148785 by robotaholic on March 23, 2008 at 11:09 pm
26. Comment #148791 by flyingfsck on March 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm
"or mabye just a chocolate day would be nice-"27. Comment #148796 by mmurray on March 24, 2008 at 12:14 am
The demise of its specific beliefs among most clear-thinking people in no way lessens my admiration for the Sermon on the Mount
28. Comment #148937 by God of Eng's World on March 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm
29. Comment #148944 by Lucas on March 24, 2008 at 5:41 pm
30. Comment #148950 by secondsoprano on March 24, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Most religions are smart enough to use spring as a metaphor for reincarnation. Birds sing, eggs hatch, buds burst into life and, if you like, God is love. Only a misanthrope would deny the stirring of springtime juices and not dream of resurrection. Can atheism and religion find some accommodation at Easter?
31. Comment #148961 by DasSquid on March 24, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Most religions are smart enough to use spring as a metaphor for reincarnation. Birds sing, eggs hatch, buds burst into life and, if you like, God is love. Only a misanthrope would deny the stirring of springtime juices and not dream of resurrection. Can atheism and religion find some accommodation at Easter?
32. Comment #148962 by Ed-words on March 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm
(Easter pun)33. Comment #148984 by dragonfirematrix on March 24, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Right out the gateā¦there is no Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, god, or devil.34. Comment #149312 by dogg724 on March 25, 2008 at 12:50 pm
This was very well written and gave concise and simple answers to the overplayed cards from the other side. Well done.
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