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Friday, May 9, 2008 | Reason : Comedy | print version Print | Comments

Document Atheists are nice people who will roast in hell, says Cardinal

by The Daily Mash

Thanks to Nick Baxter for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/atheists-are-nice-people-who-will-roast-in-hell%2c-says-cardinal-20080509937/

ATHEISTS and agnostics are decent people whose tormented souls will burn for all eternity in the scorching fires of hell, Britain's biggest catholic said last night.

Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor said non-believers should be respected, right up to the point of death when they will finally come face to face with Satan and his blood-soaked pitchfork.

He told a conference in London: "Those without faith should not be shunned or abused. Jesus and Beelzebub are already cooking something up for them, don't you worry about that."

The leader of Roman Catholics in England and Wales stressed that a 'hidden God' was active in everyone's life, often nipping to the shops for them or wiping down their kitchen surfaces.

Stressing that God was not in the phonebook, the Cardinal said: "You can't just ring him up. You have to get an appointment and that can take up to 18 months.

"I suppose I could try to put in a good word for you... if only I wasn't so skint - if you catch my drift..."

He admitted talking about God was difficult, especially as some people genuinely believe a man was born of a virgin, performed miracles and then died and came back to life, while others believe that is a lot of insane, voodoo rubbish.

He added: "We must not allow Britain to become devoid of religious faith, otherwise how will I afford new hats?"

The Cardinal's lecture follows clashes over stem cell research and gay rights, where the church tried to impose laws based on a 2000 year-old book written by people who stoned each other to death for wearing the wrong clothes.




Another funny one, this time from The Onion:

Pope Returns To Vatican With Comprehensive Plan To Blow Up United States

WASHINGTON—In an unprecedented breach of national security, Pope Benedict XVI, leader of the international organization known as "the Roman Catholic Church," has infiltrated the highest levels of the U.S. government and devised a wide-ranging plan to destroy the entire country.

Using recently uncovered information, shocked intelligence analysts have determined that the religious extremist's recent tour of the nation was in fact a reconnaissance mission designed to exploit essential weaknesses in our country's defenses and expose them to mass destruction.

"He had full access to everything—the White House, the National Cathedral, everything," said CIA director Michael Hayden, who reportedly has already tendered his resignation over the massive security failure. "By carrying out this espionage under the subterfuge of a goodwill mission of Christian charity, the pope was able to gain access to sensitive information never before obtained by a hostile foreign power. The president himself shook his hand, prayed with him."

"This is the most devastating failure of American intelligence imaginable," Hayden added. "We are completely helpless."


Twenty-seven separate federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies participated in security measures for His Holiness' visit to Washington and New York. All are now considered compromised.

According to event coordinators, the pope made repeated inquiries about areas of vulnerability during his tour, asking about the seating capacity and locations of emergency exits at Yankee Stadium, the civilian populations of the Washington, D.C. metro area, and the water-supply system of the Eastern Seaboard.

And in what many believe to be a related incident, a blueprint of New York's proposed Freedom Tower was reported missing the day after the pope's visit.

The CIA briefing details how a number of officials—including President George W. Bush—unwittingly gave up classified documents and information to the visiting pope, simply because he asked politely. During these seemingly benign conversations, officials said, the pontiff listened carefully, took notes, and was seen tapping on walls during tours of historic sites as if checking for structural weaknesses.


"We normally do not allow anyone to view top secret documents, but with the miter and the robe and everything, it was difficult to say no," said one Department of Energy official, who allowed Benedict to view plans for a proposed warhead delivery system, and detailed maps of the nation's nuclear power plants. "He said he wanted to bless the documents, which he did. Unfortunately, we now believe that the ring he wears is a miniaturized digital camera."

U.S. intelligence reportedly began to uncover the plot after routine monitoring of papal chatter in Vatican City—the heavily fortified city-state ruled by the pope and his minions, from which the infallible religious leader operates with diplomatic immunity—picked up the phrase "holy mission to blow up the United States" sometime around April 21.

According to a cardinal speaking on condition of anonymity, the popular religious extremist has been planning the destruction of America for decades. His plot includes coordinated attacks on multiple fronts, using explosives, poison gas, and some unknown weaponized biological agents referred to in Vatican parlance by the code name "plague of locusts."


The State Department's counterterrorism division has estimated that death tolls from the planned attacks could reach 150,000.

On Monday, the CIA released an audio recording of several voices believed to be those of high-ranking Vatican operatives. The tape reportedly contains numerous references to "the coming day of God's wrath against the Americans" and makes mention of several major landmarks, all in highly populated urban areas, as potential targets.

Chillingly, the recording concludes with the phrase "May God bless America," followed by what is being called a "throaty, maniacal" laugh that experts have identified as the pontiff's.

"The pope has one billion followers all around the world who are ready to do his bidding in whatever grim and deadly schemes he may devise," CIA Director Michael Hayden said. "I cannot imagine a more formidable enemy. Lord, have mercy on our souls in the terrifying, tragic weeks to come."

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1. Comment #177791 by Frankus1122 on May 9, 2008 at 5:45 pm

 avatarI didn't read the 5000 word speech so I appreciate this summary.
Thanks Daily Mash!
And thank you Nick.

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2. Comment #177793 by SRWB on May 9, 2008 at 5:50 pm

Now that's more like it - the Cardinal's comments make eminently more sense in this version of his speech - direct and to the point!

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3. Comment #177794 by mordacious1 on May 9, 2008 at 5:53 pm

Don't read the long speech, I felt like stepping on a third rail after I did. Although, if you want to get the real gist of this guys thinking, you should probably wade throught it, just keep a barf bag nearby.

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4. Comment #177796 by mordacious1 on May 9, 2008 at 5:57 pm

Of coarse we will roast in hell. I'm going to start off with a pork loin with orange sauce.

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5. Comment #177797 by kaiserkriss on May 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm

 avatarWhat a miserable feeble minded old man. For theists these sort of words could be interpreted as fear mongering and rabble rousing. edit (We athists know better)end edit.
Yet the old and senile fellow gets a free ride and is not held accountable, or is he fides et ratio?? jcw

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6. Comment #177798 by Matt7895 on May 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm

 avatarFuck you very much, O'Connor.

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7. Comment #177801 by steveroot on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 pm

 avatarHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
{stops to catch breath.}
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
{new absorbant pad.}
Whew!
Ste5e

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8. Comment #177802 by Don_Quix on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 pm

 avatarRoasting in Hell? I'll bring the buns and some potato salad. Who's in charge of beer?

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9. Comment #177803 by Lucas on May 9, 2008 at 6:02 pm

 avatarSo he'll just let us go to hell and not bother us until then? Awesome. That is a perfectly fair compromise. That should be our new slogan: We're going to hell anyway, just ignore us.

Don Quix - There is a beer volcano, so I'm told. And a stripper factory.

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10. Comment #177805 by mordacious1 on May 9, 2008 at 6:05 pm

Hitch is in charge of all the alcohol.

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11. Comment #177808 by UncleJJ on May 9, 2008 at 6:22 pm

How does this silly old duffer know all these things? He's just making stuff up.

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12. Comment #177809 by The Reverend Dark on May 9, 2008 at 6:23 pm

 avatarAlways happy to see the church voice their opinion in a sane and rational manner.

It is no small wonder that they stand out as a beacon of moral guidance in these modern times.

When non-belivers get threatened with imaginary, eternal damnation and small children get touched up by clerical celibates; you know that the sane and eminently rational voice of the church will still ring out with a message sweet and clear.

After deep spiritual discussions with Imam Muhhamed Wobbles the dead stuffed goose (Branta Canadensis Mortis) and Pope Squawkers the Mechanical Macaw, I am forced to concur with the Cardinal's remarks.

I am also forced to pour three cans of baked beans down my pants and add cheese (In the correct proportions as directed by Gordon Ramsay), make a variety of chicken noises in pig latin and attach my right testicle to an irate rhino (as it says in scripture) with a hot glue gun.

After all I want to appear just as sane and rational as dear Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor. Uck-clay, uck-clay, uck-clay.

Cheers,
The Reverend Shayne Dark
Best broiled eternally with shallots, pepper purree, a dash of creme fresh and a shaved bison.

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13. Comment #177810 by markg on May 9, 2008 at 6:25 pm

 avatarGreat, it's about time we had a roast. A few weeks ago it was baking night at RD.net. I was sick for days from all the baked sweets.

I'll bring the suckling pig, oysters and get some marshmallows for the kids.

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14. Comment #177812 by Quine on May 9, 2008 at 6:33 pm

 avatarShould be a great party, with some terrific folks. Check out Who's Who in Hell now on-line.

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15. Comment #177813 by Frankus1122 on May 9, 2008 at 6:39 pm

 avatar
I'm going to start off with a pork loin with orange sauce.

Could we have one just plain and have a variety of sauces into which we could dip our meat?
If we all get tridents we could try 3 different sauces at once.

Oooh! This sounds good. I can hardly wait.

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16. Comment #177814 by MaxD on May 9, 2008 at 6:49 pm

 avatarGuys I have an excellent design for the beer bong if we are going to be there for awhile, we might as well do our benders in style, or failing that, with maximum efficiency.

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17. Comment #177817 by Grantaire of JC on May 9, 2008 at 6:59 pm

I always figured when I was catholic that if I were to go to hell I'd be so busy meeting friends that wouldn't know I was there until eternity ended. I'm glad that he thinks that he has a sense of humor with that needing new hats statement. I'm sure that his parish has lost a lot of income over the years.

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18. Comment #177818 by HourglassMemory on May 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm

I have to say that the article made me laugh and made me feel sorry for the unused intellect of the man.
I wonder how old he is...

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19. Comment #177820 by chuckgoecke on May 9, 2008 at 7:10 pm

 avatarWhile I'm ready for the brimstone, fire and lava(I love volcanology), I suspect hell for me will be something different. The old Night Gallery series had an episode called "Hells Bells" staring John Astin(aka Gomez Adams). Watch it here: Click Here

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20. Comment #177822 by MorituriMax on May 9, 2008 at 7:24 pm

 avatarCan I pick my own BBQ sauce when I am roasting in Hell?

I wonder if anyone will ever ask the Cardinal what he plans on doing when he is plunged into Allah's version of Hell?

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21. Comment #177825 by mikecbraun on May 9, 2008 at 7:31 pm

 avatarWhom do I speak with to have "roasting in hell" changed to "being braised in a wine sauce with shallots in hell"? If I'm going to be cooked, I'd like it done properly. I should then be served on crostini with an arugula salad on the side. Preferably there would be some goat cheese in there somewhere as well.

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22. Comment #177827 by MorituriMax on May 9, 2008 at 7:35 pm

 avatarWait a minute..... what IS Allah's version of Hell?

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23. Comment #177832 by Frankus1122 on May 9, 2008 at 7:43 pm

 avatarComment #177820 by chuckgoecke

Far-out man!

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24. Comment #177834 by riki on May 9, 2008 at 7:49 pm

 avatarI believe in heaven-on-earth and life-after-birth!

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25. Comment #177838 by riki on May 9, 2008 at 7:57 pm

 avatarI guess hell is were the party is. Hanging out with Princess Di, smoking crack and singing Christmas carols

Just think of the alternative, eternity in paradise with Ben Stein and his idiot friends.

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26. Comment #177839 by mordacious1 on May 9, 2008 at 8:00 pm

All this talk of food, beverages, and good company makes me wish we could all get together somewhere for an atheist party. It would be very interesting and fun to meet everyone. Then when we get to hell it would be a reunion.

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27. Comment #177841 by Laurie Fraser on May 9, 2008 at 8:05 pm

 avatarDon_Quix , as an Australian atheist I demand the right to bring the beer!

Mordacious, you're welcome to a party at my joint anytime. Atheists unite, we have nothing to lose but our salvation!

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28. Comment #177843 by EvidenceOnly on May 9, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Here is EvidenceOnly's Wager:

1. If you don't believe in God and there is no God: no problem

2. If you believe in God and there is no God: you wasted a good part of your life

3. If you don't believe in God and there is a God: you get rewarded because you have used your God-given ability to think critically and came to the sensible conclusion that there was no evidence whatsoever for the existence of a God (or any God) when you were alive

4. If you believe in God and there is a God after all: (a) you get punished for NOT using your God-given ability to think critically and instead using blind faith that a God existed even though there was absolutely no evidence for a God when you were alive, and (b) get punished again for inventing a God in your own image that could not possibly be anywhere close to the real thing (There is an infinite probability that you believed in the wrong God!).



Conclusion: Following the evidence (or in this case the lack thereof) is the ONLY thing to do!

I've seen the deep pain in the eyes of grown-ups when they describe how they have been threatened with everlasting burning in hell by their parents or educators. This is child abuse that is hard to overcome by many.

Having said that. Can anyone invent a hell for people like this pious cardinal? He should get a taste of his own medicine.

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29. Comment #177845 by utelme on May 9, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Note his comment "Jesus and Beelzebub are already cooking something up for them, don't you worry about that."


Isn't it amazing how these "love your enemies" types enjoy the thought of you being tortured?
Very assuring for his lovely flock of sado-masochists.

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30. Comment #177846 by k1mgy on May 9, 2008 at 8:11 pm

 avatar"We must not allow Britain to become devoid of religious faith, otherwise how will I afford new hats?"

Dear Cardinal: GET A REAL JOB.

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31. Comment #177850 by Godfree Gordon on May 9, 2008 at 8:26 pm

 avatarDo cardinals et al believe because they are so fair skinned and would sunburn as well as burn in hell if they didn't believe? Personally I believe in SPF 30 .

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32. Comment #177852 by mintcheerios on May 9, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Love the avatar Gordon.

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33. Comment #177854 by Godfree Gordon on May 9, 2008 at 8:36 pm

 avatarWhy thank you! I'm working on a spoof of the sitcom. Jewish guy, catholic, mormon etc co habiting in a loft...what hi-jinx will they get up to next? Those wacky believers!

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34. Comment #177855 by robotaholic on May 9, 2008 at 8:40 pm

no listen, this guy is talking about burning in hellfire to adults- that's adult-abuse! - that should be wrong too some how right?

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35. Comment #177863 by athegan on May 9, 2008 at 8:56 pm

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Wait a minute..... what IS Allah's version of Hell?


Hell in Islam is similar to that of Christianity. Fire that you burn in forever and everytime your skin completely burns it is replaced with a new one and you burn all over. It is made up of seven layers where the deepest one is the worst (we, atheists, belong here). Only one kind of food exists in hell known for its bitter taste and that results with extreme thirst (no water in hell, naturally :p). Above hell, there is a fine rope (called in Arabic, "Al Sirat Al Mostakeem") which you have to cross into heaven. If you have not been awarded eternal torment (you qualify for heaven after paying for some sins), your punishment is that you can't cross this rope fast enough to avoid the torture of the heat from hell under you. It may take hundreds of GOD years (1000 human year) to cross it to Heaven. People who have no sins cross it "faster than a blink of an eye". Once you make it into heaven, that is also seven layers....(the question didn't include a description of heaven)*

Thank you...

* A lot of details can be added to this version, but this is what all Muslims agree on since it mostly comes from the Koraan or "Strongly Sourced" (can't be doubted) quotes by Mohammad....

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36. Comment #177864 by dragonfirematrix on May 9, 2008 at 8:58 pm

To quote a portion of the article: "ATHEISTS and agnostics are decent people whose tormented souls will burn for all eternity in the scorching fires of hell, Britain's biggest catholic said last night.

Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor said non-believers should be respected, right up to the point of death when they will finally come face to face with Satan and his blood-soaked pitchfork."

As far as I am concerned, the above is terrorism. Imagine the terror in a child mind as one of these radicalized religious Neanderthals teaches this GDBS to a child.

Religion is child abuse, and religion is terrorism.

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37. Comment #177865 by hoops mccann on May 9, 2008 at 9:15 pm

 avatarComment #177794 by mordacious1:
"Don't read the long speech, I felt like stepping on a third rail after I did. Although, if you want to get the real gist of this guys thinking, you should probably wade throught it, just keep a barf bag nearby."

And a syringe of insulin.

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38. Comment #177868 by MelM on May 9, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Never mind his "after death" prattle; he told everyone that atheists--in this life--are nice people. (Hey, I'll take it!)

Nice people burning in hell? Perhaps there will be some in his herd who can still turn the crank on their own and figure out that there's something unjust in this viewpoint.

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39. Comment #177870 by riki on May 9, 2008 at 9:32 pm

 avatarThe fact that an all-knowing, all-powerful God would let "nice" people burn in hell for eternity, shows that he's worshiping an evil, vindictive god (that truly loves us all of course).

You can do evil things and still avoid the trip to hell, just as long as you ask God for forgiveness. And religious people somehow seem to think they have some monopoly on morality. How exactly does that work?

Lets face it, even if we were all God-Fearing Christians, they'd still be preaching the "you're going to burn in hell" line.

Religion is not only the most absurd piece of BS that anyone could possibly dream up, but they actually expect you to believe this crap.

There's a very good reason why that don't try to hide the BS, and that's because they're looking for people with week minds.

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40. Comment #177875 by Hawker on May 9, 2008 at 9:42 pm

 avatarIf I am not mistaking, a prior article posted on this site was saying church enrollment was dropping rapidly. Sounds like the Cardinal is getting back to basics with some good old scare tactics! Lets face it, flip on your TV, take a look at the evangelicals and their followers then tell me you want to spend eternity in heaven with them! Talk about redefining hell. I am sure the eternal hell speech at least ruined the minds of a couple youths, way to go fear factory!

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41. Comment #177878 by MelM on May 9, 2008 at 9:45 pm

Start chastising these nutters!! Thus:
Press release:

We thank the Cardinal for acknowledging that atheists are decent people. However, we insist that he stop filling people's minds with senseless Bible myths and, in particular, stop terrorizing them with tales of hell.


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42. Comment #177885 by Broicher on May 9, 2008 at 10:26 pm

Well, an old man saying those things does not impress me. I think he is only justifying his life spent as a representative of a religion which he might himself not 100% believe in. The older those people get the more extreme are their views and this - that is what I think - enforces them in their own believes - or better - it keeps them from giving up against the doubt they are feeling.

Anyway. Once we are at it. We should make a list who is bringing what to the party in hell. It will be a big never ending fun.

You know the joke when an atheist comes into hell and finds a long white beach at a beautiful ocean, everybody is happy (not only because of the free cocktails). After a few days he discovers a brick wall and asks the devil what is behind it. The devil takes a ladder and they klimb up and see pots with boiling oil with people in them screaming. The devil looks at him and says: "Those are catholics, they want it that way...."

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43. Comment #177894 by fides_et_ratio on May 9, 2008 at 11:11 pm

It seems that there's a large proportion of posters on here who think that the article above is genuine. That's shocking. Granted it's not especially funny, but it is sufficiently ludicrous to reveal its true nature.

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44. Comment #177895 by Dr Benway on May 9, 2008 at 11:15 pm

 avatarWell fides, I thought it was satire until the bit about the hats.

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45. Comment #177906 by Spinoza on May 10, 2008 at 12:03 am

 avatarHell would be an afterlife full of these assholes.

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46. Comment #177911 by utelme on May 10, 2008 at 12:20 am

"It seems that there's a large proportion of posters on here who think that the article above is genuine. That's shocking. Granted it's not especially funny, but it is sufficiently ludicrous to reveal its true nature."

It may be satire but it accurately depicts the way the fanatically religious think. Funny but spot on.

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47. Comment #177918 by riandouglas on May 10, 2008 at 12:40 am

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Spinoza: Hell would be an afterlife full of these assholes.

Isn't that (his) heaven?
Hell is where the more interesting people seem to end up.

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48. Comment #177920 by STLstrike3 on May 10, 2008 at 12:40 am

 avatarI look forward to the day when O'Connor joins me in hell because he forgot to repent when he thought about little Billy's wee-wee in a naughty way when he was 6.... I mean 60.

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49. Comment #177922 by clintonjason on May 10, 2008 at 12:42 am

 avatar...the problem is that these clowns just get away with almost all their crappy statements. It's a bit as if I told you that "if you continue being atheists the three little piggies won't help you build your house to hide away from the big bad wolf". WHAT ASSHOLES!

Dear Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor

You are a retard, and by the way, beelzebub is actually your mother. F.U.NOW!

ps.: what cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Cockmaster said... http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/RobertOak/smells_like_bullshit.jpg

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50. Comment #177926 by riandouglas on May 10, 2008 at 12:56 am

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fides_et_ratio: Granted it's not especially funny, but it is sufficiently ludicrous to reveal its true nature.

My thoughts exactly. Wait, we are talking about christianity and catholocism, right?

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