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Saturday, May 17, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Gimme that Old-Time Irreligion

by Norman Levitt, eSkeptic

eSkeptic

a book review by Norman Levitt

The very first thing I did in drafting this review was to Google Chester Alan Arthur. I trust my readers will recall the name, if only after a bit of head-scratching, as that of one of the most obscure and unmemorable of American presidents, a run-of-the-mill New York politician who attained to the highest office in the land by virtue of the assassination of his almost equally obscure predecessor, James A. Garfield, who picked the party wheel-horse Arthur as his running mate for reasons now totally forgotten.

What has this to do with John A. Paulos's recent book Irreligion? It is well known, of course, that some our most eminent presidents—Jefferson, Lincoln, Madison—spurned orthodoxy in religious matters, even to the point of—to use Paulos's convenient title—irreligion. This, of course, is sufficiently embarrassing to our fundamentalist ayatollahs that they have been furiously rewriting history, chiseling away at the facts with all the fury of the restored priests of Amun hacking off Nefertiti's heretical nose. What interested me more, however, was the question of whether disdain for religion was purely the province of politicians who where gifted intellectuals as well, or whether it was at one point so widespread and socially acceptable that even routine mediocrities, hacks, and tub-thumpers could espouse such views without being banished from public life and high office.

So I picked me a president—the most unmemorable I could find (Millard Fillmore is too memorable for being unmemorable)—and took a peek at what is known or surmised about his religious convictions. Chester Alan Arthur fit the bill admirably. According to The Religious Views of our Presidents, by Franklin Steiner, Arthur finds his place in the list under the heading "Presidents whose religious views were doubtful."

In the 19th century, at least, political viability of an aspiring public figure was not unconditionally dependent on a show of religious enthusiasm. That is not to say that affected reverence for faith (as well as open hostility to the "wrong" faith) were absent from the political stump. Then, as now, candidates and office holders often made a big show of their ostensible piety. But they did so in a society where it was more or less understood and expected that a broad spectrum of attitudes toward religion, as such, existed, that "freethinkers" and "infidels" were part of that spectrum, and that the "village atheist" was a standard, and even admirable element of the intellectual scene. The celebrity of such writers as Mark Twain (a doubter) and Ambrose Bierce (an atheist outright) attests to this. The phenomenon of the atheist celebrity continued even into the first part of the 20th century, most notably in the person of America's great curmudgeon, H.L Mencken.

Somehow that tradition died away by stages in the Cold War era, so much so that by the turn of the new century the Bush administration brought religion back into the White House, and in the run up to the 2008 presidential election, a loony fundamentalist preacher like Mike Huckabee was taken seriously as a presidential candidate, while the others in both parties fell into line, sincerely or otherwise, to demonstrate that their own piety was at least minimally acceptable. In particular, the presumptive Republican standard bearer John McCain, having indiscreetly uttered some home truths about the religious right in the past, had to crawl and snivel (flip-flopping extravagantly) in order to make his peace with that odious crowd before he could seize the party's crown.

Paulos's Irreligion

Given this religious revival, it is of more than passing interest to note the recrudescence of blatant and aggressive atheism in the past couple of years. All of a sudden, the lonely or isolated non-believer can find a veritable library of god-debunking literature to sustain him merely by taking a brief on-line tour of Amazon and the like. Note that this is no longer the cantankerous low-rent pamphleteering of a few lonely cranks or the screeds of miniscule contrarian sects, as might have been the case a decade ago. Rather, these books come from big-time commercial publishers savvy about the likelihood of finding profit in the denunciation of prophets, and from authors of some prior repute, often with heavy-caliber academic credentials. Now, mathematician John Alan Paulos, best known as the author of Innumeracy, has joined the lists with his newest book, Irreligion.



Paulos deserves high praise for turning out a book that is brief, forthright, and amiable. While making the same basic points as, say, Dawkins's The God Delusion, it avoids the often choleric tone of that work, keeping a light, conversational tone where Dawkins hurls flaming rhetorical fireballs of denunciation. This is not meant as a criticism of Dawkins, whose grim disgust with the cruel absurdities of religion echoes what many of us feel in our hearts. But it does point up the fact that an atheist world-view does not necessarily lead to a foul-tempered misanthropy that is forever giving voice to searing disdain for a species that is so nasty and foolish as to delude itself into religious fervor. Paulos's cheery offhandedness, which never declines into mere diffidence, clearly makes the point that to be an atheist, one does not need to be a professional malcontent.

The book is organized in a way that readers inclined to skepticism but who have never seriously studied the debate over the viability of theism will find convenient and quite useful in their private debates with friends, relatives, and even clergymen of various persuasions. Paulos lays out, seriatim, most of the classical philosophical arguments for the existence of a deity, and immediately refutes them as they arise. Thus we find the ontological argument, the argument from First Cause, the argument from design, the argument from the seeming existence of moral universals, and so forth, laid out one by one and just as soon demolished. It will be noted that these chapters are as brief as they are easygoing.

Some of Paulos's critics, noting this brevity, complain that he is too brisk and thoughtless in giving such cavalier treatment to arguments so ancient and weighty, over which so many sages have wracked their brains in ages past. But this misses Paulos's larger and more important point: The hypothesis that a deity created the universe and somehow still intervenes in it is, on the face of it, an extravagant, inelegant, and superfluous supposition. It lacks any support from our direct experience of the world, nor even from the subtle and indirect inferences of modern science. Therefore, in order to make it plausible, let alone convincing, requires arguments that are clear, direct, and compelling. An enormous burden of proof lies heavy on the proponents of theism; atheism is really the default position. Paulos finds that the classical arguments cited are at best verbally dexterous, and that typically, they head into muddy and confusing ground before they get too far. In large measure, they reduce to arguments from the deployment of pompous but vacuous terminology. Therefore, there is no reason to take them all that seriously, since they flounder early and often, and are riddled with self-contradiction when picked apart by a relentlessly logical mind.

Some lapses can be found in Paulos's exposition. The newly-fashionable argument from the "irreducible complexity" of biological systems is a mainstay of the crypto-creationist Intelligent Design movement, but Paulos's treatment of this ploy is, for once, too brief and superficial; he ought to have included some specific and concrete example of the consistency of standard evolutionary theory with claimed instances of irreducible complexity, rather than simply tossing the idea into the same pot as the argument from design in general. Likewise, a bit more might have been said about the supposed "fine tuning" of physical constants, especially in the light of various new hypotheses concerning the foundations of physics. Finally, I note that Paulos digresses into the famous question posed by Eugene Wigner: Why does the vast corpus of mathematical ideas developed without any applications in mind turn out to be so useful in describing what we can discover of physical reality, to the extent that it is virtually impossible to envision a "physics" detached from these mathematical formalisms? This, it seems to me, is a question that bears very remotely, at most, on the arguments pro and con theism, and the book needn't have considered it at all. Nevertheless, I find that Paulos's analysis is superficial and a little flaccid, especially in view of the fact that he is a professional mathematician. Wigner's question remains deep and resists an easy answer.

But these minor points don't much detract from the overall value of what Paulos has given us. Irreligion will, I'm confident, take a distinguished place in what one might call the canonical literature of the New Atheism, and I highly recommend it, especially to bright youngsters who will find its occasional use of mathematical ideas pleasant rather than repellent.



The New Atheism

An important question remains: Why has atheism and skepticism toward religion suddenly emerged as a question of great current interest, at least among the literate, in the past few years? Clearly something has happened to break atheists of their tendency to nurture their disbelief privately and to keep their opinions to themselves.

It seems obvious that politics has a lot to do with this, specifically the cultivation of the religious right as a phalanx of conservative storm troopers who are rewarded by conservative politicians by having their singular dogmas incorporated, as much as possible, into public policy. The increasing pressure on women's reproductive rights, the suppression of stem cell research, and, most egregiously, the fresh intrusion of creationism into public schools are primary instances of this. Beyond these concrete horrors, there is no escaping the fact that the miasma of compulsory religiosity has thickened and diffused throughout society. For instance, one notes, rather queasily, the success of the Evangelicals in turning the Air Force Academy into a virtual fundamentalist seminary where cadets from all sorts of backgrounds are relentlessly pressured by officers and upperclassmen into declaring for the Born-Agains.

Atheists, who, despite polls, have never been all that rare, have come to mistrust the notion that they can believe as they will, undisturbed, provided they remain discreet about it. The mood fostered by the religious right seems to tend toward the inquisitorial. Scientists, in particular, representing the one vocation in which non-belief is the norm, rather than the outlier, have sensibly concluded that the culture in which they have quietly lived is being attacked at its foundations. It's one thing to send your kids to a public school where "under god" is formulaically recited as part of the daily Pledge of Allegiance. It's quite another to have your kid's elementary biology class interrupted by harangues against "Darwinism", or to see the Bible, taught as literal truth, surreptitiously introduced into the curriculum. When matters have come to that pass, scientists, among others, see little point in not fighting back openly. Thus one now sees a torrent of books, largely by scientists and sympathetic philosophers, striking back, not only at the enemies of stem-cell research and the proponents of Intelligent Design Theory, but at the very roots of the cultural tic that provides these miscreants such fertile ground: supernatural religion predicated upon a supreme being.

Then, too, one must consider the possibility that as the ostensible religious uniformity of the nation begins to dissolve, the sort of person who habitually responds to questionnaires about faith by listing himself as "unaffiliated, but a believer" has, at long last become more honest with himself and with the rest of us, frankly acknowledging the deep vein of skepticism underlying his disinclination to become a churchgoer. I suspect that many of the readers of the New Atheists' books fall into this category, and are more willing to let their doubts see the light of day.

The Return of the Suppressed

The new boldness of atheists and nonbelievers is not so much a novel development as an unconscious return to the mindset of an earlier century. Contrary to the standard myth of progress, America spent many years going backwards in point of publicly-acceptable attitudes toward religion, even as Western Europe eagerly abandoned its historical obedience to Christianity, and turned itself into a society where atheism is pretty much the norm, the persistence of officially-established churches and similar vestigial institutions notwithstanding. I don't expect America to move that far that fast. Religion still has its claws into too many people and communities; one doubts that the airwaves will soon be full of clear-channel radio stations proclaiming the indispensability of skepticism and the savage wrongheadedness of biblical literalism.

All the same, our supposedly provincial forebears seem to be on the brink of vindication. One of these days, we may well see a major election where a candidate needn't supply the press with a photo-op of him or herself and family dutifully sitting through an acceptable church service. (Indeed, we may already have witnessed such a miracle in the election of Socialist Bernie Sanders as U.S. Senator from Vermont!) In my search for relevant historical minutia, I discovered that even the much-despised Millard Fillmore ought to be regarded as a secularist hero for our time. It seems that as a New York legislator, Fillmore led the fight to enable citizens unwilling to swear an oath to a Divine Being to give testimony in state courts nonetheless. Politicians with that kind of principle and that kind of guts are still in short supply, certainly on the right. But one might hope that the increasing eagerness of atheists like Paulos to go public with their beliefs will have a positive effect on the yet-unfulfilled struggle to have this country and its social institutions truly respect freedom of opinion.

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1. Comment #181611 by Sally Luxmoore on May 17, 2008 at 4:36 pm

More to the point, if the US goes the way of the fundies that will mean losing out to other nations who take science and rationality more seriously.
Losing out like that means losing financially.
Since when has the US wanted to be poorer than other nations?

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2. Comment #181615 by Layla Nasreddin on May 17, 2008 at 4:55 pm

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The new boldness of atheists and nonbelievers is not so much a novel development as an unconscious return to the mindset of an earlier century. Contrary to the standard myth of progress, America spent many years going backwards in point of publicly-acceptable attitudes toward religion, even as Western Europe eagerly abandoned its historical obedience to Christianity, and turned itself into a society where atheism is pretty much the norm, the persistence of officially-established churches and similar vestigial institutions notwithstanding. I don't expect America to move that far that fast. Religion still has its claws into too many people and communities; one doubts that the airwaves will soon be full of clear-channel radio stations proclaiming the indispensability of skepticism and the savage wrongheadedness of biblical literalism.


Ah, very interesting. This is what I've been wondering about--what exactly are Dawkins' critics going on about when they accuse him of being "19th-century"? It's such a common refrain, made by so many critics (not just believers but philosophers and historians) that I start wondering if maybe there's something to it. But maybe it's not exclusively a negative accusation--from this perspective, it may be more of a positive than a negative.

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3. Comment #181617 by Ed-words on May 17, 2008 at 5:09 pm

Let's all petition Congress for a Millard

Fillmore national holiday!

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4. Comment #181619 by mordacious1 on May 17, 2008 at 5:14 pm

Has anyone read this book? I thought about buying it, but didn't want a 'beginners book of atheism'.
His other book "Innummeracy" was good, but Levitt's review here isn't blowing my skirts up.

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5. Comment #181621 by hadrianushaereticus on May 17, 2008 at 5:21 pm

"It's such a common refrain, made by so many critics (not just believers but philosophers and historians) that I start wondering if maybe there's something to it."

Of course there is something to it! They are implying that the sort of cultural war against religion Richard is engaged in - which was quite typical of the 19th-century cultural clashes - should be considered obsolete by now.
Well, it should indeed be obsolete by now! But in view of the persisting influence (or even revival?) of religion it's about time that we secularists/atheists return to be more 19th-century, i.e. intellectually militant! As Richard said: "Let's all stop being so damned respectful!" This is what makes him "19th-century" - and it is more of a positive than a negative indeed.

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6. Comment #181624 by mordacious1 on May 17, 2008 at 5:25 pm

Hey, I'd take Arthur or Fillmore over certain numbnuts presidents that talk to god.

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7. Comment #181632 by julianstirling on May 17, 2008 at 6:14 pm

I have read Irreligion, it is a very short read, 150 small pages, but there is a lot there.

My one criticism is he has a tendency to loose interest during his arguments. He neatly lays out the topic to be discussed, he very neatly dissects the main framework, then he doesn't conclude his argument. You are expecting a nice conclusion summing up how this shows how totally ridiculous the argument is and he just moves on with no warning.
Of course you can piece the conclusion together yourself, but the book would be far more convincing to fence sitters if the conclusion was there.

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8. Comment #181643 by Zaphod on May 17, 2008 at 6:52 pm

 avatarI think I read this book in about 1.5 hrs. It is quite short and didn't really provide me with any knowledge I didn't already have. I enjoyed the book when I was reading it but I get the impression that in a few months I will remember very little of it's content. My overall impression was that the second half was much better than the first half of the book.

I would have liked it if he talked more about the cognitive foibles humans have when it comes to statistics which we are all intuitively bad at and have to learn. Case in point being the Monty Hall problem which I read even some mathematicians had been confused by.

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9. Comment #181647 by mordacious1 on May 17, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Thanks, I think I'll wait until I can get it at the Library or at a booksale for a buck.

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10. Comment #181648 by Layla Nasreddin on May 17, 2008 at 7:26 pm

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Of course there is something to it! They are implying that the sort of cultural war against religion Richard is engaged in - which was quite typical of the 19th-century cultural clashes - should be considered obsolete by now.
Well, it should indeed be obsolete by now! But in view of the persisting influence (or even revival?) of religion it's about time that we secularists/atheists return to be more 19th-century, i.e. intellectually militant! As Richard said: "Let's all stop being so damned respectful!" This is what makes him "19th-century" - and it is more of a positive than a negative indeed.


From what I can suss out, the critics seem to be saying that Dawkins subscribes to a "19th-century" view of history or an overly-simplistic, outdated notion of the relation between science and religion, or else has a naive "19th-century" faith in science untempered by the bloody 20th-century. Something like that. (Not that any of this is necessarily justified, just what they seem to be saying.)

Just as an example, I can just imagine such a critic saying that your claim that "[this fight] should indeed have been obsolete by now" betrays an old, outdated, Victorian version of the "secularization theory," that religion would "inevitably" decline as science increased human knowledge. Well...I suppose it hasn't happened, hence why we're all here today!

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11. Comment #181686 by PJG on May 17, 2008 at 11:43 pm

 avatarI've read it. I would agree, largely, with the comments above.

However, it is quite good if you want a few simple examples of why using probability in order to "prove" that things that have already happened "cannot happen" is ridiculous.

It is a short book and very easy to read. I quite enjoyed it.

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12. Comment #181688 by aprilmb on May 17, 2008 at 11:52 pm

An important question remains: Why has atheism and skepticism toward religion suddenly emerged as a question of great current interest, at least among the literate, in the past few years? Clearly something has happened to break atheists of their tendency to nurture their disbelief privately and to keep their opinions to themselves.


It probably has to do with fundamentalists' headlong rush to kill each other. And we're probably not willing to die for something somebody imagines and tries to force everyone else to believe.
It's no longer enough to keep our opinions to ourselves and let everyone run roughshod over us. We need to speak up or be run over by the horde of fairy tales believers.

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13. Comment #181689 by utelme on May 17, 2008 at 11:59 pm

"Paulos deserves high praise for turning out a book that is brief, forthright, and amiable. While making the same basic points as, say, Dawkins's The God Delusion, it avoids the often choleric tone of that work, keeping a light, conversational tone where Dawkins hurls flaming rhetorical fireballs of denunciation"

Some use the subtle " dirk in the kidneys while in passionate embrace" method, others the "slap in the face" method. Both work just fine.

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14. Comment #181702 by alexmzk on May 18, 2008 at 2:04 am

a foul-tempered misanthropy that is forever giving voice to searing disdain for a species that is so nasty and foolish as to delude itself into religious fervor.

???

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15. Comment #181821 by Border Collie on May 18, 2008 at 10:16 am

I love Dr. Dawkins "flaming rhetorical fireballs of denunciation" ... Religion has had us by the throat for thousands of years. So, OK, a handful of preeminent thinkers comes along and raises bloody hell with religion for a while and all the wingnuts are offended. Well, so what, they've been running the game for so long they aren't even aware that they've been running the game. I say, keep raising hell. Haven't we let ourselves be held back long enough?

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16. Comment #181823 by mjwemdee on May 18, 2008 at 10:18 am

 avatarMuch as I generally agree with Mr Leavitt sentiments, does anyone else find his writing style a bit indigestible? Prolix, grandiloquent, not to mention circumloquacious and tending to periphrastic verbosity...

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17. Comment #181843 by brian faux on May 18, 2008 at 11:14 am

"Why does the vast corpus of mathematical ideas developed without any applications in mind turn out to be so useful in describing what we can discover of physical reality, to the extent that it is virtually impossible to envision a "physics" detached from these mathematical formalisms?"
A very good question Eugene and an appeal from me to any reading mathematicians: is there a large corpus of mathematical knowledge that is NOT related to real world problems and solutions? In my own readings around the edges of maths I have always understood that it is a virtually infinite field and so the fact that some, maybe relatively small part, of this knowledge refers to the 'real world' is not surprising.

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18. Comment #181844 by Nova on May 18, 2008 at 11:29 am

Norman Levitt:
even as Western Europe eagerly abandoned its historical obedience to Christianity, and turned itself into a society where atheism is pretty much the norm, the persistence of officially-established churches and similar vestigial institutions notwithstanding. I don't expect America to move that far that fast.
This reversal of fortunes must be one of the most amazing spectacles of history.

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19. Comment #181877 by D'Arcy on May 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm

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Just as an example, I can just imagine such a critic saying that your claim that "[this fight] should indeed have been obsolete by now" betrays an old, outdated, Victorian version of the "secularization theory," that religion would "inevitably" decline as science increased human knowledge. Well...I suppose it hasn't happened, hence why we're all here today!


I live in Britain and it undoubtedly true that religion is dying away. Even in places like Spain, Brasil, France and Italy, the Catholic church has problems in holding onto its adherents.

It should be borne in mind, that in the USA, religion is largely a "free enterprise" operation. It's big business and uses all the corporate mind tricks and advertising to suck money from the believers.

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20. Comment #181895 by Layla Nasreddin on May 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm

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I live in Britain and it undoubtedly true that religion is dying away. Even in places like Spain, Brasil, France and Italy, the Catholic church has problems in holding onto its adherents.


But...those are mostly places in Western Europe. The big "test" of secularization theory is whether Western Europe points the way to the future, or is an anomaly (look at the rest of the world, the Middle East, Africa, etc., as well as America). I suppose we'll have to see. And what about the Muslim minority in Britain? I've read conflicting accounts as to whether they tend to become more assimilated and more secular, or else become more alienated and fanatical.

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21. Comment #181896 by KiwiInOz on May 18, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Foul mouthed misanthropy? Richard Dawkins? Surely the man jests!?

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22. Comment #181908 by Brian English on May 18, 2008 at 5:29 pm

 avatarMisanthropy? RD attacks religion and superstition. I've never read him as hating humanity....Weird.

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23. Comment #181912 by Goldy on May 18, 2008 at 5:53 pm

But...those are mostly places in Western Europe. The big "test" of secularization theory is whether Western Europe points the way to the future, or is an anomaly

That's a mighty fine point there! Too much Euro-centrism in these here threads for my liking. I can understand it, but having a Chinese wife has really made me realise there are other ways of thinking.

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24. Comment #182250 by Teratornis on May 19, 2008 at 2:06 pm

 avatarI noticed two misspellings in the review: "politicians who where (sic) gifted intellectuals" in paragraph 2, and "miniscule" later.

Comment #181843 by brian faux:

... is there a large corpus of mathematical knowledge that is NOT related to real world problems and solutions?


Most certainly, although one might have to append a "yet" onto the "NOT". There is a large corpus of mathematical knowledge that no one currently knows how to relate to real world problems and solutions. How much might eventually apply, no one knows either.

Applied mathematics is a small field, percentage wise, of all mathematics, although the applied mathematics subset tends to grow as people realize this or that previously "pure" (i.e., useless) mathematical theorem applies to some real problem.

If you have a large amount of free time, spend it in any university mathematics library, reading from the math books and journals, and see how much of what you read applies in any obvious way to any real problem. For an even greater challenge, pick any unsolved real problem, such as for example the industrial countries' dependence on OPEC, and start reading math journals until you find something that solves it.

The shelves in a math library groan under the weight of so many books and journals, but I would be very surprised if the answer to our energy problems lurks in there. We probably aren't using the available math to its full potential, but I doubt that the potential is a comprehensive match to our unsolved problems.

If mathematical knowledge really was a good match to real-world problems, then we would expect mathematicians to rule. In every way. Mathematicians would get the most money, the hottest sex partners, and everything else that most of them probably want.


In my own readings around the edges of maths I have always understood that it is a virtually infinite field and so the fact that some, maybe relatively small part, of this knowledge refers to the 'real world' is not surprising.


Particularly since some applied math did not start off independently as pure math, but instead people had in mind the real problems from the start.

I think it is a lot more surprising that a small percentage of humans have this strange ability to invent and apply mathematics. I.e., the fact that some humans can work mathematics is more surprising to me than that it can work. When one considers humans only recently diverged from other primates who couldn't begin to do much math.

Not only is it surprising that a small percentage of humans can do math in practically useful amounts, but it is also surprising that only a small percentage can do math in practically useful amounts.

If math is useful, and some people are good at it, then why isn't everybody good at it, like we are almost all good at recognizing faces, or learning to speak a native language as children?

Whatever brain circuits are responsible for mathematical ability in useful amounts, they could not have been selected for very strongly. But then how do they appear in the population in a small but persistent percentage?

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25. Comment #182262 by Teratornis on May 19, 2008 at 2:30 pm

 avatarComment #181908 by Brian English:

Misanthropy? RD attacks religion and superstition. I've never read him as hating humanity....Weird.


I doubt that many Nazis read Hitler as hating "humanity" either. To non-Nazis, Hitler's hatred appears as plain as it could be, but to the Nazis, perhaps they viewed their work much like an exterminator views his work of ridding a house of roaches.

I haven't heard many people ascribe "hatred" to anyone they like. "Hatred" is for the most part an exonym (a word ascribed to members of a group only by persons outside the group).

Since I largely agree with Richard, I don't read him as "hateful" either. However, I can certainly see how the people he disagrees with can read him as "hateful." That's just the way most people process disagreement.

Most people tend to associate agreement with love, and disagreement with hate. If you are in a romantic relationship with someone, try disagreeing with everything he or she says for a few days, and see how that affects the mood.

Richard also attacks the livelihoods of a great many professionals who make their living off religion. There aren't many people who take kindly to having their paychecks threatened, regardless of the facts.

For example, in the U.S., something like 20% of the economy revolves around transportation - building, selling, fueling, and insuring automobiles; building and maintaining highways; policing drivers; etc. Lots of people have lots of stakes in the status quo, and thus they cannot afford to be completely honest and objective about how much Islamic terrorism gets supported by America's mobility addiction. Thus in America, we have a rather disgusting universal agreement to simply ignore the real consequences of importing so much oil. Anyone who does try to be honest and objective will get a hostile reception from the stakeholders who feel threatened by said objectivity.

Every important controversial issue has vested interests on both sides, and most humans process disagreements emotionally (i.e., territorially), so it's hardly surprising that the people who understand that Richard Dawkins is trying to throw them out of work will read hatred into his words.

If someone was arguing for the elimination of your job, regardless of how solid the argument, how would you feel about that person?

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