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I don't think that the details of this essay come as a surprise to many people, catholic schooling is well known for producing this sort of behaviour which in turn seems to produce a lot of atheists. I think that Catholicism may have had a hand in it's recent decline.3. Comment #181761 by moniz on May 18, 2008 at 7:14 am
Though my catholic education was nowhere as bad as this, it had it's moments. This is why I really don't want to send my soon-to-be born child into a catholic school system. Still negotiating with the wife.(She's not devout, and open to a public school education, but feels duty in continuing the tradition of catholic school education of her family). We've already discussed That I will not lie to our children about the "grand questions" when I am asked. No religious BS from me.4. Comment #181762 by ThoughtsonCommonToad on May 18, 2008 at 7:16 am
This is not hypocritical. This is education straight out of the Bible.5. Comment #181763 by riki on May 18, 2008 at 7:19 am
6. Comment #181766 by Raiko on May 18, 2008 at 7:36 am
I don't think that the details of this essay come as a surprise to many people
7. Comment #181769 by Drew on May 18, 2008 at 7:45 am
8. Comment #181771 by riki on May 18, 2008 at 7:49 am
9. Comment #181776 by Cartomancer on May 18, 2008 at 8:03 am
10. Comment #181782 by Logicel on May 18, 2008 at 8:52 am
11. Comment #181784 by Prankster on May 18, 2008 at 8:55 am
12. Comment #181787 by mordacious1 on May 18, 2008 at 9:08 am
I wonder if the church would then move these priests to another school, far away. I know if they did that to me, if I didn't kick the snot out of them right away, I would have looked them up later. Remembering the priests I knew as a lad, they could probably be found at the local bar. "Do you think this is funny, priest?" Blow to right eye-socket.13. Comment #181802 by Border Collie on May 18, 2008 at 9:33 am
Nothing like being raised and or educated by psychopaths ... primary thing is ... go to therapy and don't become a psychopath yourself ...14. Comment #181804 by Ascaphus on May 18, 2008 at 9:34 am
"Give us the boy at seven and we'll answer for the man"
15. Comment #181816 by mordacious1 on May 18, 2008 at 9:57 am
Border Collie16. Comment #181819 by qomak on May 18, 2008 at 10:03 am
Within days she was belting us with a cane, and being a left-hander I was singled out for special treatment; my hand beaten hard and often so I could no longer hold my pencil in "the hand of the devil".
17. Comment #181850 by dansam on May 18, 2008 at 11:59 am
Reading this disturbing tale of abuse makes me physically ill. If I had a child that experienced this type of torture, I'm ashamed to say that I might lose my composure, follow the example set by these "men of god", and beat the holy shit out of them!18. Comment #181857 by huzonfurst on May 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Agree, dansam. Nothing could stop me from marching into that "school," throwing that evil psychopath to the floor and stomping him to within an inch of his life - then happily taking the consequences with no remorse whatsoever.19. Comment #181862 by dansam on May 18, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Well.... I said that I would be "ashamed" to resort to violence. In fact, I would hope that I would be able to resist the impulse to commit a crime regardless of how justified it might seem. I consider the abuse of children to be by far the most reprehensible crime that can be committed and as such I "fear" I might "lose it".20. Comment #181870 by SRWB on May 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I wonder if Larry ever returned to the school as an adult and made his displeasure known. As a kid, I attended a nominally Catholic school (only because it was close by) where corporal punishment was no longer, if it ever was, de rigeur. But we had a particular prick of a teacher who enjoyed rapping his knuckles on some of our heads. While we were no "angels", I did not take kindly to this and after a while informed my father. He promptly paid a visit to said institution of learning and informed the principal that if anyone would rap knuckles on heads it would be him doing so. Miraculously, we were never touched again!21. Comment #181879 by Mitchell Gilks on May 18, 2008 at 2:55 pm
22. Comment #181882 by HoyaSaxa87 on May 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I now have a new comeback for people who push the, "if not from god, then where do you get morals?" argument. Catholic schools stop beating their kids when it becomes illegal, and it clearly doesn't take a religious person to figure out it's immoral.23. Comment #181887 by huzonfurst on May 18, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Dansam, there is no shame in protecting one's family by whatever means necessary. Violence is a last resort but sometimes that's all that's left. In a case such as this, also, violence is almost demanded by our genes; having a child purposely injured is so beyond the pale that "getting medieval" on the perpetrator is an instinctive response, and I can't imagine a jury would convict the parent with more than a symbolic slap on the wrist.24. Comment #181899 by supernorbert on May 18, 2008 at 4:51 pm
25. Comment #181918 by utelme on May 18, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Gave me a feeling of deja vu reading this article. The cane from frustrated nuns for crossing my legs (never understood the significance), slap in the face from the priest outside church ( I was outside the church getting ready to escape and avoid mass)lol.26. Comment #181929 by MattInOz on May 18, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Aussie Catholic "education" from Years 1 to 12 for me, largely from the boys in dresses.27. Comment #181935 by Brian English on May 18, 2008 at 8:55 pm
28. Comment #181936 by Drew on May 18, 2008 at 9:02 pm
29. Comment #181942 by dansam on May 18, 2008 at 9:38 pm
huzonfurst,30. Comment #181951 by Noodly on May 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm
31. Comment #181956 by Raiko on May 18, 2008 at 10:33 pm
This same man gave me '6 of the best' for being struck by an orange thrown by another boy.
32. Comment #181959 by MelM on May 18, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I watched the video contained in this comment by supernorbert. It'll make you sad and very angry. I'm wondering what makes this rotten cult so evil.24. Comment #181899 by supernorbert on May 18, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The treatment of "fallen women" by the catholic church was very similar to this.
Here's a link to a real shocking BBC4 Documentary on the infamous Magdalene Asylums
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1732953937770017672
33. Comment #181977 by detox on May 19, 2008 at 1:56 am
34. Comment #181978 by MagratGarlick on May 19, 2008 at 2:10 am
"Dansam, there is no shame in protecting one's family by whatever means necessary."35. Comment #181980 by ridelo on May 19, 2008 at 2:39 am
If all those brainwashed Catholics could become atheists, then there's hope for the Muslims and the creationist Christians too.36. Comment #181987 by hungarianelephant on May 19, 2008 at 3:48 am
37. Comment #181992 by Roland_F on May 19, 2008 at 4:10 am
The beating of children seems to be quite a fundamentalist Christian, not only Catholic pattern.38. Comment #182007 by mmurray on May 19, 2008 at 5:36 am
Beating up someone who has previously harmed your family, but is no longer in a position to do so is not 'protecting your family', it is vengeance. It achieves nothing but giving you the same kind of sadistic pleasure in another person's pain that we are condemning these Catholic teachers for.
39. Comment #182009 by Lana on May 19, 2008 at 5:37 am
I second the comments of hungarianelephant. When I was in Catholic school in the 50's and 60's, the nuns would smack our hands with rulers. We wouldn't dare tell our parents because we'd get spanked by them under the theory that Sister must have had a good reason.40. Comment #182032 by nalfeshnee on May 19, 2008 at 6:24 am
Full marks for the article writer pointing out the sexual roots of the priests' sadism.41. Comment #182066 by squinky on May 19, 2008 at 7:20 am
42. Comment #182079 by dansam on May 19, 2008 at 7:43 am
MagratGarlick,43. Comment #182121 by mixmastergaz on May 19, 2008 at 8:50 am
44. Comment #182242 by supernorbert on May 19, 2008 at 1:48 pm
45. Comment #182303 by Greyman on May 19, 2008 at 4:09 pm
By way of contrast, I had a nice Aussie public schooling where the worst chastisement I ever received was verbal. No ranting or raving, just a good stern talking to.
Corporal punishment did exist durring my schooling years, but was gradually phased out of use. It was more and more generally seen by teachers as a last resort type of thing. It died a slow death by disuse and, in Queensland, they finally bothered to actually ban it in 1995.
46. Comment #182310 by mmurray on May 19, 2008 at 4:28 pm
47. Comment #182314 by Bluff_King_Hal on May 19, 2008 at 4:41 pm
My Catholic upbringing wasnt as severe as this but still involved cruel beatings. Yes State schools used beatings too but probably not as often or as severely. I stayed in a Catholic student hostel and the hate just seemed to radiate off the incredibly screwed up nuns. The physical brutality and sexual perversity of that religion are incalculable.48. Comment #182321 by huzonfurst on May 19, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Whoa, Magrat, you're being rather judgmental in assuming that doing this would give me any kind of pleasure at all; as I said, I would be compelled to do it. You also said "by someone who was no longer a threat," and I wonder how you came to that conclusion?49. Comment #182355 by BeyondBelief on May 19, 2008 at 8:28 pm
50. Comment #182504 by arogop on May 20, 2008 at 9:26 am
1. Comment #181757 by Colwyn Abernathy on May 18, 2008 at 7:00 am
You're posting these cuz of the names, aren't ya, Joshie-washie? ;) Who's next? Peter Chocastarfish? :P
EDIT:
That would be me...er, a fellow Southpaw, not the devil. Good thing I was spared the Catholic upbringing my father had.
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