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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Philadelphia Set to Honor Darwin and Evolution

by New York Times

Thanks to JON HURDLE for the link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/us/23darwin.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1214319871-BIoBdsufJzNqerqvGtdzgw

Philadelphia Set to Honor Darwin and Evolution

PHILADELPHIA — In the long-running culture war between evolution and creationism, Philadelphia is firing the latest shot.

Nine academic, scientific and cultural institutions around the city are holding a Year of Evolution, a series of exhibitions, seminars and lectures to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin next February, and the 150th anniversary of the publication of his seminal work, "The Origin of Species."

Events will include a talk by John E. Jones III, a federal judge who ruled in 2005 that teaching intelligent design — the belief that some aspects of nature are so complex that they must be the work of a higher power rather than of evolution — in public school science classes was unconstitutional.

The intent of the citywide event, said Janet M. Monge, one of the organizers, is to increase public understanding of evolution and science in general at a time when polls show that a majority of Americans believe God created man in his present form and that the number of people who accept the evolutionary model of human origins is declining.

"The strengths and weaknesses of evolution are the strengths and weaknesses of science," said Dr. Monge, the curator of the Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology at the University of Pennsylvania. "You don't get answers."

She said the Philadelphia events were also intended to encourage people to consider the evolutionary alternative to the biblical account of the origins of man, as represented by the new Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., a $35 million institution that has attracted more than 400,000 visitors since it opened in May 2007.

Ken Ham, the president of the Creation Museum, said he expected to see more pro-evolution events as the Darwin anniversary approaches. Mr. Ham said that in response his museum was planning its own exhibits on the origins of life.

"The culture war is definitely heating up," he said.

Mr. Ham, who also leads Answers in Genesis, a nonprofit group promoting a literal interpretation of the biblical creation story, defined the clash of ideas as "Christianity versus the relative morality of secular humanism" and said they were "two fundamentally different worldviews."

He rejected the possibility that Christians could believe in evolution. "If you take Genesis as literal history, then of course the two are exclusive," he said. "Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."

Creationists and their allies in the intelligent design movement suffered a setback when Judge Jones rejected a plan by the school board in Dover, Pa., to teach their ideas. Judge Jones sided with the American Civil Liberties Union and others who sued the school board, arguing that intelligent design was a religious rather than scientific concept and had no place in science classes.

The National Council for Science Education, which opposes creationism in schools, contends that creationists and intelligent design proponents have merely changed their tactics to avoid legal challenges in the wake of the Dover decision, and are now arguing that teachers should have a right to teach critiques of evolution.

"The creationists are resilient, and they have regrouped," said Glenn Branch, deputy director of the council.

The council, which monitors creationist activity, said there had been 33 new cases of anti-evolution initiatives in schools or state legislatures this year, compared with 49 in 2007.

In Philadelphia, organizers of the Year of Evolution want to promote the concept in Darwin's anniversary year but have no interest in picking a fight with Christians who do not accept it, said William Y. Brown, president of the Academy of Natural Sciences, a participating institution.

"We will try to find ways of persuading people that it's not in conflict with their faith," Dr. Brown said.

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1. Comment #198538 by Lemniscate on June 24, 2008 at 8:23 am

 avatarKen Ham and the creationist movement are given far too much space in this article about an event they have nothing to do with to promote their anti-intellectual and anti-constitutional viewpoint.

It's presenting it like he does competing work, like you can't talk about evolution without talking about creationism.

Nice to see them let Ken slip in, "Christianity versus the relative morality of secular humanism," as if acceptance of evolution will lead to the end of morals, without an attempt to criticise it. They could mention that countries with a high acceptance of evolution and secular politics win against the USA on matters Christian fear, like abortion, murder, STDs and teen pregnancy.

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2. Comment #198539 by DamnDirtyApe on June 24, 2008 at 8:29 am

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Mr. Ham, who also leads Answers in Genesis, a nonprofit group promoting a literal interpretation of the biblical creation story, defined the clash of ideas as "Christianity versus the relative morality of secular humanism" and said they were "two fundamentally different worldviews."


Well I've got to agree with him there!

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3. Comment #198545 by Raiko on June 24, 2008 at 8:39 am

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Mr. Ham, who also leads Answers in Genesis, a nonprofit group...


I think 'group' is too nice of a description for such a cult!


He rejected the possibility that Christians could believe in evolution. "If you take Genesis as literal history, then of course the two are exclusive," he said. "Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."


To all Christians who do believe in accept evolution: Better inconsistent than irrational.

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4. Comment #198558 by Border Collie on June 24, 2008 at 8:54 am

Even when I was a dumbass little kid (like 6), forced to go to fundamentalist Baptist churches in Texas, I wasn't able to 'take' the Bible literally. How can it be taken literally? It cancels itself out. Where DID those other women come from that Adam's and Eve's son married? And that's just one of the first, easy ones. Oh, I forgot, don't question God, God works in mysterious ways and we'll get our answers in Heaven. Can't wait.

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5. Comment #198560 by Steve Zara on June 24, 2008 at 8:58 am

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Where DID those other women come from that Adam's and Eve's son married?


There is an answer to that:
http://www.besse.at/sms/descent.html

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6. Comment #198567 by Border Collie on June 24, 2008 at 9:03 am

Thanks, Steve!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

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7. Comment #198574 by advocatus_diaboli on June 24, 2008 at 9:11 am

In the church I was forced to attend in youth, that question was answered by stating it was one of his sisters and that sleeping with one's dear sister was not a no-no in the Antedeluvian age. Being a child I never thought to remark on any of the genetics issues involved. Though it did do a good deal to further convince me I did not want to be Christian. I couldn't grasp a loving deity wanting us to shag our siblings and then sending a young lass away with a murderer just so he had someone to knock bones with.

Though I suppose it could be said that Cain hooked up with Lilith and they had tons of evil marked half demon spawn.


Note to self: the next time a Christian tries to impose the bible on me, claim to be from the lineage of Lilith and Cain and to be half nephilim. Ergo the rules of the bible do not apply to me.

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8. Comment #198577 by mordacious1 on June 24, 2008 at 9:15 am

"We will try to find ways of persuading people that it's not in conflict with their faith" Dr. Brown said.

Of course it's in conflict with their faith. What a pussy.

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9. Comment #198613 by Epinephrine on June 24, 2008 at 10:02 am

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He rejected the possibility that Christians could believe in evolution. "If you take Genesis as literal history, then of course the two are exclusive," he said. "Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."


That's right, chase them over to our side.

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10. Comment #198619 by Vaal on June 24, 2008 at 10:06 am

 avatarKen Ham
"The culture war is definitely heating up," he said

What has truth and the scientific method got to do with culture? What a ridiculous statement.

"We will try to find ways of persuading people that it's not in conflict with their faith," Dr. Brown said.

Really? I would have thought evolution demolished faith. If it wasn't for a geological accident causing the rift valley, we wouldn't be here. If you reran evolution again from scratch, the probability of humanity arising would be infinitesimally small. We are not the end result of evolution, we are just a branch of it. Any small change would have seen something, perhaps profoundly different arise.

Hardly God's plan, I would have thought. In fact, if you reran the Universe again, would the Earth have even existed? What if the Moon had missed us, or there not been enough mass to make the Earth the object it is, or it had a captured face to the sun, like Venus, or the Sun had been more massive and burnt out before life could arise?

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11. Comment #198627 by catskill on June 24, 2008 at 10:17 am

 avatarPZ has a post on his blog that talks about this article. He makes some good points. Worth a look.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/what_is_wrong_with_journalists.php

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12. Comment #198703 by liberalartist on June 24, 2008 at 11:26 am

 avatarI think I learned more about creationism and ID in this article than I learned about evolution. What a waste!

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13. Comment #198725 by Colwyn Abernathy on June 24, 2008 at 11:59 am

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He rejected the possibility that Christians could believe in evolution. "If you take Genesis as literal history, then of course the two are exclusive," he said. "Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."


Aye, because a talking snake makes SOOOOO much more sense.

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14. Comment #198796 by tahustvedt on June 24, 2008 at 1:48 pm

 avatarKen Ham:
"Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."



I never thought I'd agree aout something Ken Ham said.

I would like them to believe in (as in understand, not have faith in) evolution though. Hehe

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15. Comment #198808 by Border Collie on June 24, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Not taking issue with anyone here, but I hope we can get away from talking about "belief" in evolution or "believing" in evolution. I think we're adopting the wingnuts' language when we do that. Sort of like it could be disbelieved. I think it was Alan Watts who described "belief" as a 'fervent wish that something is true'. I don't fervently wish that evolution is true. I don't "believe" in fossils; I see them. I'll work on coming up with a better word. Maybe some of you guys who are a lot smarter than I am can help. I see evolution. After reading Darwin, I understand it to a small degree. It makes complete logical sense to me. I don't think that there will ever come a time when I "disbelieve" it. So, anyway ...

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16. Comment #198828 by Tezcatlipoca on June 24, 2008 at 2:32 pm

 avatarDid you all read Lenski's reply letter to Schlafley that PZ posted today? The sarcasm was delicious.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/lenski_gives_conservapdia_a_le.php#more

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17. Comment #198830 by decius on June 24, 2008 at 2:43 pm

 avatarYeah Tezca,

great stuff. Although I would have preferred that Lenski had indeed demanded evidence at the wedding ceremony, think of the comedic potential.

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18. Comment #198885 by Neuro on June 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm

 avatarANYONE:

Is this going on now? Are the exhibits going on year-round or do they start next February?

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19. Comment #198896 by Severus Snape on June 24, 2008 at 4:35 pm

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"Christianity versus the relative morality of secular humanism"

Stephen Law has published a few excellent articles that address this myth (i.e. this idea that if you are not a fundamentalist Christian then you are a moral relativist): Click Here

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20. Comment #198911 by bluebird on June 24, 2008 at 5:40 pm

 avatarCalendar of Events:
http://www.museum.upenn.edu/yearofevolution/calendar.shtml

Dang, wish we lived closer--looks great!!

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21. Comment #198919 by CoffeeBoy on June 24, 2008 at 6:20 pm

Border Collie,
The word you want is "accept." I accept evolution.

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22. Comment #198980 by S'allokay on June 25, 2008 at 12:21 am

He rejected the possibility that Christians could believe in evolution. "If you take Genesis as literal history, then of course the two are exclusive," he said. "Christians who believe in evolution are being inconsistent."


Is it just me or is this guy being a little hypocritical by not stoning adulterers etc etc...?

He himself seems inconsistent with their special book. Did I miss something? Must be that interpretation stuff where they pick whatever they like.

*S'allokay goes home from work muttering to himself about cherries & whatnot*

Oh, & sorry, I agree this article should've been about Darwin & his anniversary. I'm sad now.

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