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Thursday, September 4, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Mammoths moved 'out of America'

by BBC NEWS

Thanks to Brian Burgess for the link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7592668.stm

Mammoths moved 'out of America'
By Elizabeth Mitchell

Scientists have discovered that the last Siberian woolly mammoths may have originated in North America.

Their research in the journal Current Biology represents the largest study of ancient woolly mammoth DNA.

The scientists also question the direct role of climate change in the eventual demise of these large beasts.

They believe that woolly mammoths survived through the period when the ice sheets were at their maximum, while other Ice Age mammals "crashed out".

The iconic Ice Age woolly mammoth - Mammuthus primigenius - roamed through mainland Eurasia and North America until about 10,000 years ago.

Previous studies had hinted that the last mammoths left in Siberia were not natives - but immigrants from North America.

However, more evidence was required to strengthen the case for this "out of America" theory.

A team of researchers led by Professor Hendrik Poinar from McMaster University in Canada collected 160 mammoth samples from across Holarctica - a region encompassing present day North America, Europe and Asia.

Well-preserved DNA material - between 4,000 and 40,000 years old - was obtained from "almost every part of the animal - even from preserved hind, skin and hair", Professor Poinar told BBC News.

They analysed DNA from mitochondria - genetic material which is passed from mother to offspring via the egg - and can be used to track the ancestry of a species back many hundreds of generations.

The genetic information confirmed that a North American mammoth population overturned those endemic to Asia.

Mammoth migration

It is hard to speculate why the North American woolly mammoths returned to Siberia.

"Presumably, conditions were favourable on the Bering land bridge which was more of a large filter than an open highway," suggested Professor Poinar.

The expansion of North American forests may have "pushed the mammoths along", he added.

At the same time, the native Siberian mammoths, which may have been around for much of the Middle Pleistocene, completely disappeared.

It is unclear if the Siberian mammoths experienced a "natural decline" or if they were outcompeted by the North American immigrants.

The endemic Siberian population had different molar features and a "very unique DNA signature" - that was dated to be almost 900,000 years old.

It is possible that it may not have been a true woolly mammoth - but a more primitive species.

"Many people thought that this (primitive) species had become extinct way before 38,000 years ago," said Professor Poinar.

"Palaeontologists were not so happy because these are the intricacies of DNA that are very difficult to discern based on mammoth tusks and teeth," he added.

Scientists are now beginning to understand the dynamic evolutionary history of these Ice Age mammals.

"This study adds to a growing body of evidence about just how dramatic and tumultuous the Pleistocene climate actually was," Dr Beth Shapiro, a scientist from Penn State University in the US, told BBC News.

"With ancient DNA, we can actually go back in time and look directly at these old populations.

"Here we have evidence of local extinctions, replacements and long-distance dispersals," she explained.


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1. Comment #242859 by T4Baxter on September 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm

 avatarWoop Woop,

So bad :(

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2. Comment #242866 by Nails on September 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm

 avatarIf the mammoths died out 10,000 years ago, how have they collected DNA samples from 4,000 to 40,000 year old samples?

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3. Comment #242867 by urbster1 on September 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm

 avatarI thought that one of the latest theories postulated that early humans killed off a lot of the megafauna? 10,000 years ago puts the mammoths right in the path of human destruction. It would not surprise me if they were pushed out because of human predators.

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4. Comment #242874 by Border Collie on September 4, 2008 at 4:14 pm

There is a hypothesis going around on Naked Science or one of those TV programs about an asteroid possibly hitting the North American ice sheet about 13,000 years ago, killing most of the humans and megafauna in NA. I'm sure many of you science guys know more than I do about the credibility or lack of such of this. Maybe just tabloid science, I don't know. Regardless, I always thought mammoths were just about as cool as dinos.

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5. Comment #242881 by jshuey on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 pm

 avatar"It would not surprise me if they were pushed out because of human predators."

Their migration route would seem to belie that, in as much as it was into the (generally accepted) human migration path.

Maybe Noah dropped them off at the wrong spot?

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6. Comment #242886 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:54 pm

4> Can't deny it's a possibility, but I'd love to see the crater they're claiming as evidence. Otherwise it's just speculation, and that particular speculation is fashionable among those with some cosmology in their background.

5> agreed on the migration route... one would expect that if that were the cause, the mammoths would have been traveling the other direction.

and nice... Noah's imaginary ark was an ice breaker?

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7. Comment #242950 by Wolvan on September 4, 2008 at 8:43 pm

SciTeach:

"4> Can't deny it's a possibility, but I'd love to see the crater they're claiming as evidence. Otherwise it's just speculation, and that particular speculation is fashionable among those with some cosmology in their background."

They've found a layer of magnetic microspheres that blanket most of north america (from northern alberta to South Carolina, to New Mexico) all laid down about 10k years ago, and along side that are nano-diamonds in unbelievable quantaties both of which are incredibly rare on earth. Most known examples of these structures are found in the wake of large collisions with extra-terrestrial objects, including the one that killed off the dinosaurs.

As for the crater, the object that is believed hit NA would be substantially smaller than the one that ended the dinos reign, as it caused mass extinctions that were isolated to a single continent, though it did have a marked affect on global climate. It's theorized that it hit the 2.5 mile thick ice sheet, probably somewhere along the US/Canadian border, and thus would not leave a crater. Or if it did penetrate the ice sheet the to-and-fro of the glaciers very well could have erased any crater that may have been left behind, just as it carved the great lakes.



By all accounts the human population was just too small to account for such a drastic decline in the mamoth population, not to mention the fact that it wasnt' just mammoths that dissapeared around that time, it was also the bears, ground sloths, sabertooth tigers, various plant species and ultimately, humans.

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8. Comment #243025 by King of NH on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 am

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Nails:
If the mammoths died out 10,000 years ago, how have they collected DNA samples from 4,000 to 40,000 year old samples?


Because when god created the earth, he did so by superimposing it on the old earth. That's why we have fossiles beneath our feet, but not in the sky. Now this DNA is proof. See, my theory is that when god created the world, this action would set the DNA back to a fresh status, like 'refresh' on a computer. Now, the was just a theory until now. Here we have proof. Refreshed DNA is too complex to have happed by mere typo, it is proof that Gandhi is burning in hell for his pagan ways.

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9. Comment #243046 by Vaal on September 5, 2008 at 3:00 am

 avatarI don't think there is any doubt about Mammoths being bumped off by human predators. They managed to last through several ice ages and flourished before modern humans decided that they has a particular hankering for Mammoth burgers.

That would have been something to behold, the migrating herds of Mammoths passing from America to Europe, and back.

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10. Comment #243119 by Ishruul on September 5, 2008 at 6:19 am

 avatarSee all the evidence anyone need on woolly mammoth in the state or the art documentary '10,000 B.C.' . See why there's no woolly mammoth in the north pole anymore as egyptian clearly use them as slave in the desert.

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11. Comment #243171 by mitch_486 on September 5, 2008 at 8:29 am

 avatarJust a little add-on to the topic of humans and their relation to mammoth extinction.

I can just see it now, the great woolly mammoth, a target of early man for it's apparent grandeur.
An inclusion into early tribal beliefs,believed to be some sort of proving system (boy to man and so on) hunted to extinction not only for meat, but because to early man, nothing else is bigger, stronger, "threatening". I can see a whole belief system revolving around the "sacred mammoth", primitive as early man may have been.

I mean, humans have a knack for this sort of thing, as we all know

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12. Comment #244434 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on September 8, 2008 at 5:53 pm

Wolvan> thanks, don't have journal access to much anymore, and I've never really dug into the archaeology. Would love to see the original if you can link it.

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