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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Mysterious Snippets Of DNA Withstand Eons Of Evolution

by Science Daily

Thanks to GP for the link.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081001181306.htm

Mysterious Snippets Of DNA Withstand Eons Of Evolution

ScienceDaily (Oct. 7, 2008) — Small stretches of seemingly useless DNA harbor a big secret, say researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine. There's one problem: We don't know what it is. Although individual laboratory animals appear to live happily when these genetic ciphers are deleted, these snippets have been highly conserved throughout evolution.

"The true function of these regions remains a mystery, but it's clear that the genome really does need and use them," said Gill Bejerano, PhD, assistant professor of developmental biology and of computer science. In fact, these so-called "ultraconserved" regions are about 300 times less likely than other regions of the genome to be lost during mammalian evolution, according to research from Bejerano and graduate student Cory McLean.

Although some of the ultraconserved regions, which were first identified by Bejerano in 2004, are involved in the regulation of the expression of neighboring genes, previous research has shown that mice missing each of four regions seem perfectly normal.

"It's very surprising that none of the four has any observable phenotype," said Bejerano. "In some ways it just doesn't make sense."

This lack of effect is usually taken as a strong argument against an important functional role for the missing segments of DNA — either because they don't do much or because other bits of DNA serve as understudies when the primary actors are missing. But in this most recent study, evolution roars over the squeak of the seemingly contented mice.

"When we tried to determine whether similar deletions occur in the wild," said Bejerano, "we found that this is almost never seen in nature."

McLean and Bejerano compared the likelihood that ultraconserved elements of at least 100 base pairs shared by humans, macaques and dogs would have been deleted in rats and mice, with the likelihood of a similar pattern in non-conserved DNA. Less than one-tenth of 1 percent of segments completely identical among the primates and dog were missing in the rodents. In contrast, about 25 percent of non-conserved segments were absent in the mice and rats.

It's not that these regions are somehow protected against change: they are mutated in about one in 200 healthy humans. Rather, these changes seem to be swept away over time by the tides of evolution in a process called "purifying selection." Bejerano and McLean believe that something similar may be happening in the laboratory mice on a scale too subtle to be seen under carefully controlled experimental conditions.

After establishing how infrequently the ultraconserved segments are deleted, the researchers investigated whether the degree of homology (the percent of nucleotides shared between species) or the extent of conservation (the evolutionary distance between species that share a version of the sequence) correlated most closely with the likelihood that it would be lost in primates or rodents.

Sequences shared among many distantly related species are likely to be older than sequences found only in closely related species. The researchers found that less-highly conserved sequences shared among several distantly related species — including opossum, platypus, chicken, frog and fish — are more likely to also occur in humans than are more-homologous sequences that occur in only a few closely related species. The likelihood that a sequence will be found in humans increases as the evolutionary age of the sequence increases.

"Interestingly," said Bejerano, "the longer the sequence has been in us, the less likely it is to be lost. It's almost like the bricks in the foundation of a building, which hold up the rest of the structure."

Clearly there remains a lot to be discovered. The upcoming availability of several additional well-sequenced mammalian genomes will give the researchers even more data with which to work. And subjecting the laboratory mice missing the ultraconserved regions to a variety of conditions, such as changes in diet or living conditions, may make more noticeable any differences between them and the mice without changes.

"Evolution is a lot of fun," said Bejerano, who plans to continue the investigation into what the ultraconserved segments might be doing. "You answer one question, and five others pop up. But one of the most rewarding things to me is the fact that we're developing a growing appreciation for how much these regions actually matter."

The research was supported by a Stanford Bio-X graduate fellowship to McLean and an Edward Mallinckrodt, Jr. Foundation junior faculty grant. Bejerano is a Sloan research fellow and a Searle scholar.

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1. Comment #262074 by SteveN on October 8, 2008 at 12:56 am

 avatarI am always a bit wary of the use of knock-out mice to study phenotypes. Although any overt disease or disability would be quite apparent, there must be many traits that are highly useful in the wild that will not be immediately obvious in a laboratory setting. Are the mice tested for their sense of smell, or their colour vision, for example? I realise that genes for these abilities are largely known and are highly variable, but there may be other non-obvious phenotypes that are simply not required if you live in a box with a regular supply of food and water.

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2. Comment #262115 by SoManyStars on October 8, 2008 at 2:41 am

Perhaps these ultra-conserved areas of DNA are more amendable to correction by the error control mechanisms in the cell? Are they a by-function of error control by virtue of their sequences? i.e. some errors can be corrected more readily than others.

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3. Comment #262119 by Chris Davis on October 8, 2008 at 2:47 am

 avatar@ #262074 by SteveN

Agree absolutely. If these sequences aren't somehow vital, why are they so tightly conserved? They need to check out the survival rates of the knock-out mice against wild ones.

Unless - there's some way in which the sequences are conserved without being needed for the organism - some side effect. But I don't see that happening without mutation for eons.

It's a mystery.

CD

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4. Comment #262149 by Duff on October 8, 2008 at 3:45 am

As I read this article, I asked myself, where have I recently read this very same thing. Well, I realized it isn't that different from a treatise in Professor Dawkin's The Ancestor's Tale which I am currently re-reading.

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5. Comment #262154 by Ian Bamlett on October 8, 2008 at 3:52 am

 avatarIt's obvious.

These bits of DNA are the parts that have 'God wuz here' and a signature inscribed in them.

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6. Comment #262218 by TalkyMeat on October 8, 2008 at 6:06 am

 avatarMy first guess would be to look at the performance of sperm and ova with and without the ultraconserved segments. I like SoManyStars' suggestion too - if that's right, that would be a really nice example of selection working purely at the level of the genotype, completely decoupled from phenotypic effect.

Either that or it's a sort of Creative Commons ShareAlike license. If God really did exist, I'd like to think she'd open source.

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7. Comment #262244 by aquilacane on October 8, 2008 at 7:11 am

 avatarI need a recipe to bake a cake. When I have finished baking it, I can throw the recipe away.

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8. Comment #262298 by Dunc-uk on October 8, 2008 at 9:24 am

 avatarCould there be another possibility - these genes give no survival advantage to their host at all? Could their phenotype simply be that they massively increase the chances of themselves appearing in the next generation?

I read about something like this with fish, whereby there is a species that is susceptible to a particular gene. If this gene randomly occurs through mutation, it massively affects it's own chances of being in the next generation (I forget the mechanics of how). However, if any fish had two copies of this gene it was fatal... meaning that the gene would usually wipe out small fish communities.

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9. Comment #262318 by Cluebot on October 8, 2008 at 10:11 am

 avatarThese sequences need only give a survival advantage to themselves to be "ultraconserved." Perhaps this is the result of unusual interactions with the mechanisms of meiosis? I'm no molecular biologist though...

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10. Comment #262598 by bluecastle on October 9, 2008 at 1:15 am

Maybe these sequences are good at beeing copied, have a good error correction machanism. Just like religion: good at beeing copied, error protection by fear of the carrier.

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11. Comment #262604 by Edouard Pernod on October 9, 2008 at 2:48 am

 avatarI'd be curious where in the genome these seemingly non-functional sequences occur. Nature is by no means perfect or even incredibly efficient, so it is no surprise that chunks of chromatins in a genome escape transcription and subsequent translation into proteins which lead to phenotypes. To assume that these chunks of DNA have some hidden once useful phenotype is to put a bit too much faith in the idea of evolution as an intelligent designer. Let's not forget the Watchmaker is blind, so it is no surprise that from time to time the watchmaker is going to insert meaningless nucleotide sequences into genomes.

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12. Comment #262605 by Edouard Pernod on October 9, 2008 at 3:04 am

 avatarTo continue that thought though, here is a shot in the dark. Perhaps having meaningless chunks of DNA protects against cancer or other transcription errors. If only phenotypically purposeful DNA existed, it seems the likelihood of errors in copying that result in dysfunction would be greatly increased by the simple reason that there would be LESS DNA to spread the statistical likelyhood of errors across. Think of it as a decoy. The decoy does nothing itself except absorb some risk of damage happening to the useful DNA next to it. This is all just speculation though, I have no idea how one would go about testing what I have proposed. Perhaps this is what SoManyStars was getting at?

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13. Comment #262618 by oasis-al-reason on October 9, 2008 at 4:28 am

 avatarOuch my head hurts. Please would Richard Dawkins dissect and explain this like only he can so that I may again feel more clever then I am on this too?

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14. Comment #262621 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on October 9, 2008 at 4:53 am

It seems rather improbable that these sections of DNA aren't used for anything at all and yet persist across phylogenetic divisions. Either the sequences are attached to something useful when copied (end of a sequence for an important protein, etc), or they serve some purpose that we haven't ascertained yet. Ontogenetic timing perhaps?

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15. Comment #262650 by Cluebot on October 9, 2008 at 7:32 am

 avatarRe: Comment #262598 by bluecastle

Maybe these sequences are good at beeing copied...

Yes, that's precisely what I was implying. Are there any specialists here who can comment on the plausibility of this?

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16. Comment #262922 by Edouard Pernod on October 9, 2008 at 8:01 pm

 avatarBased on what I'm learning in my molecular biology courses, anything that is prevalent in genomes that cross species is "good at being copied". Being "good at being copied", to put it bluntly, describes most of any given genome. If it were "bad at being copied", well, it wouldn't be there. And we all know what is absolutely fantastic at being copied: Cancer, which does not appear to serve any evolution promoting function. Cancer appears to be accidental, but nonetheless being prone to cancer can be hereditary, so is it a stretch to imagine that these seemingly useless but resilient chunks of DNA are also just accidental bits that get passed on to offspring?

Basically the central dogma is that DNA is transcribed into mRNA which is then translated by ribosomes into proteins. The thing is that mRNA transcription has a lot of extra letters (nucleotides) on the head and tail which don't do anything phenotypically, but only very loosely serve as leader to allow the ribosome time to hop on and translate the important part of the mRNA message into a protein. You could probably delete several of those nucleotides on the head and tail of the mRNA and still make the right protein which would then influence the phenotype, so maybe these "ultraconserved segments" are just those extra letters that are nothing more than a redundant buffer. It doesn't seem unreasonable that the chemistry which leads to phosphorylation could result in a lot of random functionless filler stuck into the nucleotide chain that just gets copied with everything else.

I think the answer would be found not in mice, though, but in prokaryotes. Bacteria have been around longer than anything else on earth and are by far the most successful organisms in terms of evolution. Their perfection of the evolutionary process makes us look like infants by comparison, for the simple reason that they've been at it so long and reproduce so quickly. So many enormous discoveries in biology have come from studying not ourselves or mice, but rather through studying the proven masters of evolution, bacteria.

This is all just basic stuff though, the guys who are doing the experiment probably have investigated all the intro-level stuff I'm mentioning and have determined the explanation isn't so simple. I'm just some guy on an internet forum, I'm not a researcher.

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17. Comment #268693 by Lumifish on October 22, 2008 at 6:28 am

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It's not that these regions are somehow protected against change: they are mutated in about one in 200 healthy humans. Rather, these changes seem to be swept away over time by the tides of evolution in a process called "purifying selection."


For those suggesting self-conservation, read the article a little more carefully =)

I'd tend to agree with the first comment-- most likely explanation is a subtle phenotypic change that doesn't show up in laboratory settings. The environmental interactions of a wild organism can be fantastically complex, and they are difficult to replicate artificially.

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