Intelligent Design: The Clincher. A butterfly explodes the theory2. Comment #11460 by Yorker on December 4, 2006 at 7:53 pm
I'm Scottish, but England's collapse in the second test is keeping me awake. Completely off-topic I know, but I just want to offer my sympathy to English cricket supporters here.3. Comment #11465 by derwent on December 4, 2006 at 8:57 pm
4. Comment #11467 by rossi on December 4, 2006 at 9:18 pm
I agree with you derwent.5. Comment #11470 by Sri on December 4, 2006 at 10:45 pm
6. Comment #11471 by Roy on December 4, 2006 at 10:49 pm
A Classic example of creatures that do not appear to be intelligently designed are the so called flatfishes, as was indeed pointed out by Richard in both his books and The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures he gave one year. I refer to creatures such as the Plaice, Turbot and Halibut, where the fish starts its life "normally" as it were, looking just like say a minnow or herring, then as it matures, something odd seems to happen. One eye migrates to one side of its head, the mouth becomes almost hideously distorted,ending up opening sideways, as opposed to up and down, the body becomes flattened.The animal then spends the rest of its life on it's side. (These adaptations are for living at the bottom of the sea). The quirky awkward "Run over by a steam roller" look certainly does not look like the work of an Intelligent Designer. More information may be found in the following website http://www.answers.com/topic/pleuronectiformes-flatfishes-biological-family By the way, the new look forum looks intelligently designed. The password log-in system should help to keep out those that have not quite "finished evolving"7. Comment #11477 by myxoma on December 5, 2006 at 12:29 am
8. Comment #11479 by derwent on December 5, 2006 at 12:54 am
9. Comment #11481 by myxoma on December 5, 2006 at 12:59 am
10. Comment #11483 by Skeptic Jim on December 5, 2006 at 1:06 am
I agree with others in that this isn't a solid refutation. It annoys me more than a bit to see it presented as one because it offers credibility to the Intelligent Designists argument that there's a global conspiracy against ID preventing them from being published. This is counter-productive to say the least.11. Comment #11516 by Jack Rawlinson on December 5, 2006 at 7:37 am
12. Comment #11525 by FitzRoy on December 5, 2006 at 9:36 am
I wish to register a complaint.13. Comment #11526 by Riley on December 5, 2006 at 9:40 am
14. Comment #11550 by Martha on December 5, 2006 at 1:27 pm
15. Comment #11569 by adlards on December 5, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Dear Yorker (11460)16. Comment #11586 by RobS on December 5, 2006 at 6:02 pm
Conclusive disproof? You call yourself a scientist? Sheesh. It's bad enough "they" can't come up with a coherent, consistent theory. "We" shouldn't help them out by making unprovable statements akin to "This conclusively disproves God's existence."17. Comment #11598 by Yorker on December 5, 2006 at 10:14 pm
20. Comment #11569 by adlards18. Comment #11599 by Aussie on December 5, 2006 at 10:15 pm
What "intelligent design" lacks is Intelligent Discussion.19. Comment #11619 by PrimoTurbo on December 6, 2006 at 1:47 am
On the question of intelligent design, I would like to say that it seems there is definitely a system which all matter, life, etc obey at some level. It's no coincidence that things end up the way they do, there is definitely some utility that allows life to exist. However on the aspect of it being actually self-aware or intelligent is another question, systems emerge due to various negative and positive forces.20. Comment #11621 by Hyrax on December 6, 2006 at 2:56 am
21. Comment #11627 by Hyrax on December 6, 2006 at 4:45 am
22. Comment #11639 by Yorker on December 6, 2006 at 7:21 am
26. Comment #11621 by Hyrax23. Comment #11643 by Yorker on December 6, 2006 at 7:30 am
25. Comment #11619 by PrimoTurbo24. Comment #11645 by Yorker on December 6, 2006 at 7:51 am
18. Comment #11550 by Martha25. Comment #11647 by Kevin Ronayne on December 6, 2006 at 8:35 am
26. Comment #11658 by Hyrax on December 6, 2006 at 11:13 am
27. Comment #11691 by Seti on December 6, 2006 at 2:39 pm
28. Comment #12588 by Joadist on December 12, 2006 at 4:43 pm
I have designed a Time-Travel machine. It is flawless in concept and theory.
1. Comment #11457 by Yorker on December 4, 2006 at 7:50 pm
A good article and very interesting even for a non-biologist like myself.Another nail in the ID coffin, but I fear a few more will be needed before burial or cremation can commence.
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