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Monday, December 18, 2006 | Reason : Political | print version Print | Comments

Document Talk in Class Turns to God, Setting Off Public Debate on Rights

by Tina Kelley

Thanks to Makido for sending this in.

Reposted from the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/nyregion/18kearny.html?ex=1324098000&en=87af8b74af1e13cc&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

KEARNY, N.J. — Before David Paszkiewicz got to teach his accelerated 11th-grade history class about the United States Constitution this fall, he was accused of violating it.

Shortly after school began in September, the teacher told his sixth-period students at Kearny High School that evolution and the Big Bang were not scientific, that dinosaurs were aboard Noah's ark, and that only Christians had a place in heaven, according to audio recordings made by a student whose family is now considering a lawsuit claiming Mr. Paszkiewicz broke the church-state boundary.

"If you reject his gift of salvation, then you know where you belong," Mr. Paszkiewicz was recorded saying of Jesus. "He did everything in his power to make sure that you could go to heaven, so much so that he took your sins on his own body, suffered your pains for you, and he's saying, 'Please, accept me, believe.' If you reject that, you belong in hell."

The student, Matthew LaClair, said that he felt uncomfortable with Mr. Paszkiewicz's statements in the first week, and taped eight classes starting Sept. 13 out of fear that officials would not believe the teacher had made the comments.

Since Matthew's complaint, administrators have said they have taken "corrective action" against Mr. Paszkiewicz, 38, who has taught in the district for 14 years and is also a youth pastor at Kearny Baptist Church. However, they declined to say what the action was, saying it was a personnel matter.

"I think he's an excellent teacher," said the school principal, Al Somma. "As far as I know, there have never been any problems in the past."

Staci Snider, the president of the local teacher's union, said Mr. Paszkiewicz (pronounced pass-KEV-ich) had been assigned a lawyer from the union, the New Jersey Education Association. Two calls to Mr. Paszkiewicz at school and one to his home were not returned.

In this tale of the teacher who preached in class and the pupil he offended, students and the larger community have mostly lined up with Mr. Paszkiewicz, not with Matthew, who has received a death threat handled by the police, as well as critical comments from classmates.

Greice Coelho, who took Mr. Paszkiewicz's class and is a member of his youth group, said in a letter to The Observer, the local weekly newspaper, that Matthew was "ignoring the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which gives every citizen the freedom of religion." Some anonymous posters on the town's electronic bulletin board, Kearnyontheweb.com, called for Matthew's suspension.

On the sidewalks outside the high school, which has 1,750 students, many agreed with 15-year-old Kyle Durkin, who said, "I'm on the teacher's side all the way."

While science teachers, particularly in the Bible Belt, have been known to refuse to teach evolution, the controversy here, 10 miles west of Manhattan, hinges on assertions Mr. Paszkiewicz made in class, including how a specific Muslim girl would go to hell.

"This is extremely rare for a teacher to get this blatantly evangelical," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a nonprofit educational association. "He's really out there proselytizing, trying to convert students to his faith, and I think that that's more than just saying I have some academic freedom right to talk about the Bible's view of creation as well as evolution."

Even some legal organizations that often champion the expression of religious beliefs are hesitant to support Mr. Paszkiewicz.

"It's proselytizing, and the courts have been pretty clear you can't do that," said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, a group that provides legal services in religious freedom cases. "You can't step across the line and proselytize, and that's what he's done here."

The class started on Sept. 11, and Matthew quickly grew concerned. "The first couple of days I had him, he had already begun discussing his religious point of view," Matthew, a thin, articulate 16-year-old with braces and a passion for politics and the theater, recalled in an interview. "It wasn't even just his point of view, it went beyond that to say this is the right way, this is the only way. The way he said it, I wasn't sure how far he was going to go."

On the second day of taping, after the discussion veered from Moses's education to free will, Matthew asked why a loving God would consign humans to hell, according to the recording.

Some of Matthew's detractors say he set up his teacher by baiting him with religious questions. But Matthew, who was raised in the Ethical Culture Society, a humanist religious and educational group, said all of his comments were in response to something the teacher said.

"I didn't start any of the topics that were discussed," he said.

In a Sept. 25 letter to the principal, Matthew wrote: "I care about the future generation and I do not want Mr. Paszkiewicz to continue preaching to and poisoning students." He met with school officials and handed over the recordings.

Matthew's family wrote four letters to the district asking for an apology and for the teacher to correct any false statements he had made in class, particularly those related to science. Matthew's father, Paul LaClair, a lawyer, said he was now considering legal action against the district, claiming that Mr. Paszkiewicz's teachings violated their son's First Amendment and civil rights, and that his words misled the class and went against the curriculum.

Kenneth J. Lindenfelser, the lawyer for the Kearny school board, said he could not discuss Mr. Paszkiewicz specifically, but that when a complaint comes in about a teacher, it is investigated, and then the department leader works with the teacher to correct any inappropriate behavior.

The teacher is monitored, and his or her evaluation could be noted, Mr. Lindenfelser said, adding that if these steps did not work, the teacher could be reprimanded, suspended or, eventually, fired.

As for the request that Mr. Paszkiewicz correct his statements that conflict with the district's science curriculum, "Sometimes, the more you dwell on the issue, the more you continue the issue," Mr. Lindenfelser said. "Sometimes, it's better to stop any inappropriate behavior and move on."

The district's actions have succeeded, he said, as the family has not reported any continued violations.

Bloggers around the world have called Matthew courageous. In contrast, the LaClairs said they had been surprised by the vehemence of the opposition that local residents had expressed against Matthew.

Frank Viscuso, a Kearny resident, wrote in a letter to The Observer that "when a student is advised by his 'attorney' father to bait a teacher with questions about religion, and then records his answers and takes the story to 300 newspapers, that family isn't 'offended' by what was said in the classroom — they're simply looking for a payout and to make a name for themselves." He called the teacher one of the town's best.

However, Andrew Lewczuk, a former student of Mr. Paszkiewicz, praised his abilities as a history teacher but said he regretted that he had not protested the religious discussions. "In the end, the manner in which Mr. Paszkiewicz spoke with his students was careless, inconsiderate and inappropriate," he wrote to The Observer. "It was an abuse of power and influence, and it's my own fault that I didn't do anything about this."

One teacher, who did not give his name, said he thought both Matthew and his teacher had done the right thing. "The student had the right to do what he did," the man said. As for Mr. Paszkiewicz, "He had the right to say what he said, he was not preaching, and that's something I'm very much against."

Matthew said he missed the friends he had lost over his role in the debate, and said he could "feel the glares" when he walked into school.

Instead of mulling Supreme Court precedents, he said with half a smile, "I should be worrying about who I'm going to take to the prom."

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1. Comment #13614 by jhowes on December 18, 2006 at 8:00 pm

Note to self: Never move to Kearny, NJ.

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2. Comment #13617 by themoonsays on December 18, 2006 at 8:42 pm

Did he say which dinosaurs made it onto the ark? And do all dinosaurs go to heaven? And do you think the former student just might have misinterpreted the First Amendment?

I would be even more horrified about this if it weren't the norm.

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3. Comment #13618 by oinonio on December 18, 2006 at 9:18 pm

jhowes,
I dunno. Considering there are people like Matthew LaClair in Kearny makes it appealing.

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4. Comment #13619 by jefferson on December 18, 2006 at 9:20 pm

The locals are mainly siding with the teacher? You have got to be kidding me! I suspect the town has a lot of Christians, and they're defending their kindred instead of who was actually doing the right thing.

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5. Comment #13620 by Catherine on December 18, 2006 at 9:24 pm

thumbs up to that kid for exposing this.

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6. Comment #13622 by Fadetoblack on December 18, 2006 at 9:53 pm

The community and school ought to be ashamned for the way they have treated the boy and his family. Absolutely disgraceful. And the teacher should be fired for abusing his role and spreading his religious views which belong in no public school classroom.

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7. Comment #13623 by Jonathan Dore on December 18, 2006 at 10:12 pm

I'm surprised no-one complained about the straightforward incompetence shown by a teacher using up a succession of so-called History classes wasting time talking about everything except history, apparently. Doesn't this guy have a curriculum to follow? If this is an "excellent teacher" in the principal's opinion, what are the average ones like?

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8. Comment #13625 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 10:32 pm

Imagine how these residents would have reacted if it had been an atheist (or Muslim or Hindu) teacher instead who set about attempting to destroy the Christian beliefs of the students.

He would have been hung drawn and quartered!

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9. Comment #13626 by kmccardle on December 18, 2006 at 10:35 pm

I went and checked out the Kearny forum to see what the posters actually thought, and I must say I died a little inside. The number of people who were posting against Matt, and not just against but honestly hateful of him for doing what he did just broke my heart.

I'm ashamed that the message the town is sending is that if you stand up for your rights you will be punished and harassed. That teacher was persecuting those who didn't agree with his faith and the one boy who stood up to him is being ostracized. His intolerance is grounds for dismissal even if crossing the church/state line isn't. It just sickens me that he is all but getting away with this.

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10. Comment #13630 by Niels Thorsen on December 18, 2006 at 11:21 pm

Matthew and his family need to have direct support from the larger international community in this fight.

Niels

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11. Comment #13636 by eno on December 19, 2006 at 12:20 am

Good on you Matthew! Xtians need to know that we are not going to stand for this type of behaviour any longer. As long as there are students like Matthew out there then future has a chance.

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12. Comment #13642 by Will S on December 19, 2006 at 12:55 am

It's certainly odd for me to read this - I live in the UK where the teaching of religion in state schools is compulsory!

Actually, there's an up-side as well as a down-side to this. The general effect, I think, is that, because it's compulsory, the teaching of religion is generally (but with exceptions) pretty anaemic and ineffectual. My impression of it is that much of it gets done in a apologetic sort of way by teachers who are not really committed to it. For example, I don't think that, in the UK, many schools would teach that Noah's Ark was a physical reality, as opposed to a symbolic story. And even fewer schools would teach that Noah had dinosaurs on board.

Perhaps you US atheists should campaign for compulsory religious teaching in US schools, so as to bring the level of religious belief closer to what it is over here! (Only joking)

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13. Comment #13648 by Diplo on December 19, 2006 at 2:02 am

 avatarTeaching about religion is compulsory in UK state schools, but certainly not being taught a religion. Giving children the facts about all the major religions is a useful exercise, as it helps breed tolerance and also helps children to think critically (after all, they will soon realise not all they myths are true, so are any?)

Regarding this specific case, it's awful, especially the death threats against Mathew. Religious indoctrination has no place in the classroom and any teacher should never be allowed to force their personal religious beliefs onto vulnerable and impressionable young people. It's an abuse of power.

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14. Comment #13649 by Irate Harry on December 19, 2006 at 2:09 am

Surely this is happening in some fundamentalist country with sharia laws, mad mullahs, and the crazy ayatollahs.

Of course it is. Consider the christian sharia no less ugly than the islamic kind, the 'American Taliban' and mad mullahs in government, and Ayatollah Bush at the head of it!!! Separation of establishment and church - dream on. The great forefathers of the America must be rolling in their graves in despair (pardon the use of irrational expression). The only hope is for the American atheists to be bold, strong and successful in the struggle against the 'Root of All Evil' - stupid religiosity that thrives on ignorance.

Matt is a shining beacon that should inspire us all.

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15. Comment #13652 by Will S on December 19, 2006 at 2:48 am

Comment #13648 by Diplo

You say: 'Teaching about religion is compulsory in UK state schools, but certainly not being taught a religion.'

Am I out date on this? (If I'm am, I'm delighted to hear it!) Surely, the daily 'Act of Workship' remains compulsory in all UK state schools, doesn't it? If so, this clearly goes beyond teaching children about religion.

As I said before, it's probably not very effective indoctrination, and, as I understand it, many schools break the law by failing to have a daily Act of Worship. However, surely, the intention behind the law is still indoctrination.

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16. Comment #13657 by Diplo on December 19, 2006 at 3:39 am

 avatarWill (#13652) said: "Surely, the daily 'Act of Workship' remains compulsory in all UK state schools, doesn't it?".

I'm not sure of the status of the law, but when I was at secondary school in England in the 1980's there was no daily act of worship, or any type of religious indoctrination (though there was at my primary school before that).

However, you may well be technically correct: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/5194456.stm

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17. Comment #13658 by J. on December 19, 2006 at 3:46 am

Niels Thorsen:

'Matthew and his family need to have direct support from the larger international community in this fight.'

I totally agree. What's the best way of doing this?

kmccardle, you said:

'I went and checked out the Kearny forum to see what the posters actually thought, and I must say I died a little inside.'

Where's this forum? What's the URL (sorry if I missed it somewhere)? Perhaps we could ALL take a second to visit and post our support for Matthew and our disgust at the medieval attitudes of his community. Include your home region - show that people across the world are serious about this.

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18. Comment #13659 by Jared on December 19, 2006 at 3:47 am

 avatarThis story does two things for me:

First and foremost, it frightens me and makes me feel that, if I ever have kids, finding some way to keep them out of the public school system will be essential. This isn't out of fear that they'll be taught religion: I intend to arm any children of mine with a full 'baloney-detection kit' (a la Carl Sagan) well before high school. No, all of my fear comes from the STUDENTS...those that would threaten a kid with DEATH over asking a teacher to stop preaching. That's just too much.

Second, this story makes me value and appreciate the public school education I received. It was ENTIRELY secular, rather well-balanced from what I've been told by others not as fortunate, and as little as I had in common with the other students, at least I never got death threats for speaking my mind! (Instead, I was voted 'Class Complainer' in my senior year...oops!)

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19. Comment #13662 by Irate Harry on December 19, 2006 at 3:59 am

For post #13658 by J.

Go here

http://forums.kearnyontheweb.com/index.php?showtopic=2898&st=0

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20. Comment #13666 by J. on December 19, 2006 at 4:11 am

Ta, Irate Harry!

As luck would have it, I just found that page too (or Google found it for me).

It makes a good point, actually, which is that I/we are at risk of going off half cocked. On the basis of the NYT story I'm up in arms on Matthew's side, and death threats from fellow students and neighbours are certainly inexcusable.

But it'd be naive to suppose that the story hasn't undergone a little journalistic accentuation. And, given the runaway litigiousness of modern society, Matthew's apparently swift recourse to the media and the number of less extreme voices chipping in to protest that Mr Paszkiewicz is a good teacher, it's got to be worth adopting a fairly curcumspect attitude.

That doesn't necessarily mean saying nothing, of course...

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21. Comment #13709 by madpatriot on December 19, 2006 at 6:52 am

I went to a Catholic high school in Alabama, and we learned about evolution in biology class. I can't once remember a history teacher talking about people going to hell. Yes, there was a required "theology" course, but it included comparative religion, ethics and morals, and other good stuff in addition to the obvious Bible study (which of course was approached from the official Catholic view that the Bible is a book of spiritual truths inspired by the Holy Spirit, not a book of literal truth dictated directly by God).

We actually had a surprisingly diverse group of students, because the school was academically superior to pretty much any of the public schools, and everyone's point of view was considered worthy of civilized discussion - even the pro-choice atheist girl who loved the Dead Kennedys.

It's a bit weird to think that a teacher at a public school is stepping over boundaries that the nuns and priests at my Catholic school wouldn't dream of crossing.

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22. Comment #13766 by Thrall on December 19, 2006 at 10:46 am

An interesting quote for all you christians out there:

"... call[ing] for liberal and secular university lecturers to be removed.
He told a group of students that they should organise campaigns to demand that the liberal teachers be sacked.

'A student must yell against liberal thoughts and the liberal economy.
A student must ask why a secular teacher gives low marks to a student that does not have the same ideas as him.'"

- President Ahmadinejad of Iran

I find it absolutely frightening that the president of Iran, who thinks the Holocaust is a lie, has the same beliefs as many christians in the US. This story just reminded me of this. Sounds like the Principal of this school doesn't mind a little religion taught in his school

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23. Comment #13773 by Steven Mading on December 19, 2006 at 11:11 am

As for compulsory teaching of religion, I think there is a very strong line to be drawn between teaching "This religion is something a bunch of people believe and so we're studying it to learn about history and culture" versus teaching "This religion is something that we're learning because it is true."

After all, we have no problem with teaching ancient greek mythology in public schools. It's just that children, when tested on it, are not required to answer as if the myths were true - they're just required to answer as if they were literature stories. If they believe they are fictional literature stories, that is fine and they're allowed to say so just so long as they show signs of having actually read the stories and remembered them.

I would have no problem with religion being taught in schools *that* way - i.e. if a student turns in a paper on a Bible chapter, and in that paper is allowed to refer to God as a fictional character, and can still get an "A" grade if he proves he understands the story but just doesn't agree with it being true, then that would be fine. The problem is that I strongly doubt the capacity of a strongly Christian teacher to take that approach and not have reprisals on that kid or knock that kid's grade down for getting it "wrong" in the eyes of the teacher.

If it was possible to teach religion as a cultural and literary phenomonon at the level of high school, I'd be okay with that. I just don't think it's actually possible to give it that type of approach when many of the people in the classroom think of it as TRUTH and many other people think of it as BUNK. It's going to be impossible to leave aside the question of whether or not its true while talking about it.

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24. Comment #13831 by Makido on December 19, 2006 at 3:29 pm

@madpatriot

I completely agree with you. I went to a private Catholic high school (albeit in the Washington D.C. area) and only in religion class did instructors become raving buffoons. All the other classes kept strictly to their subjects (except, of course, that we had to pray at the beginning of each class; after that, though, not a single mention of god). In fact, we had a chemistry teacher who was Iranian (and Muslim), and several Muslim and Hindu students. Now, obviously this isn't the norm (nor do I suspect your school was, either), but nonetheless my school (despite being parochial) did allow a lot of intellectual freedom, probably (as you mentioned) a lot more than most public schools. I really suspect that a lot of my teachers weren't really Christian, just from talking to them. It's the whole "belief in belief" thing.

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25. Comment #13859 by John Phillips on December 19, 2006 at 8:12 pm

Once again we have the believers of this oh so peaceful, compassionate and merciful religion, well that's what they keep telling us, threaten those who differ with death. I couldn't write a better black comedy sketch portraying xtians as intolerant if I tried.

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26. Comment #13871 by Roy_H on December 19, 2006 at 10:25 pm

The Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free?
I went to a bog standard comprehensive school in England in the 1970's. If a teacher had been spouting such drivel to us back then,he would have been kicked out I am sure.

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27. Comment #13952 by Tintern on December 20, 2006 at 8:44 am

I want to have been there when someone stood up and said to the Principal:
"But this apparently excellent teacher told the class that there were dinosaurs on the Ark. Dude,WTF!"
It's a South Park moment for sure.

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28. Comment #13958 by DeusExMichael on December 20, 2006 at 9:10 am

I grew up Mormon and went to a Baptist school. I was told on a daily basis I was going to hell. This was in first and second grade. Even now that still sticks with me, even though I have outgrown the "God" myth. For a teacher to impose their warped world view on a child is absolutely horrific. Further, to controvert actual science with these fairy tales should be an immediate termination. Teaching about the bearded old man in the sky who watches everything you do should be kept to church. Teachers who cross that line harm the whole of society.

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29. Comment #14021 by The_Iceman on December 20, 2006 at 6:51 pm

Almost everyone is aware of the failure of U.S. public education to produce students possessing even the most basic tools necessary for functioning in 21st Century society.

Totally absent are critical thinking and analysis skills, evidenced by student support for a teacher who is so clearly incompetent, and lacking in even the most basic understanding of his professional responsibilities to his students.

When we read that school administrators consider him an "excellent" teacher with no record of previous complaints, one has to wonder about the quality of instruction which the Kearny School District is capable of delivering.

Then, we read of years of school sanctioned cheating in the Camden, NJ schools (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/special_packages/camden_schools/) and the perception of what is going on in New Jersey public schools becomes just plain scary.

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30. Comment #15264 by Homo economicus on December 30, 2006 at 3:48 am

 avatarTeachers are not there to give their belief as fact, but to educate so that their pupils will have the skills to think and reason for themselves.

To do otherwise is de facto brainwashing. May be their should be a teacher version of the Hippocratic Oath to this regard of educating not indoctrinating?

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31. Comment #20577 by rationallady on February 4, 2007 at 1:00 pm

It is so sad that not only is fundamentalist religion being taught in a public school, but that the boy who exposed it is criticized and treated as a pariah. Not only is the theory of evolution poorly taught in most American public schools, but apparently the constitutional separation of church and state is also under attack.

A retired American public school teacher

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