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Friday, March 9, 2007 | Reason : Children and Religion | print version Print | Comments

Document Academy denies claims from job candidate

by Will Sutton, Evening Gazette

Reposted from:
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk

A teacher applying for a senior job at a Teesside school claims he was confronted by "religious intolerance" at his interview.

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Dr Simon Valentine, 48, said he was amazed at the "right wing Christian" approach he found at King's Academy in Coulby Newham.

The school reacted with surprise and refuted his claims of what happened at the interview.

Dr Valentine, a part-time university tutor, applied for the position of head of philosophy, theology and ethics (PTE) at the school, which has a strong Christian ethos.

But instead of being asked about teaching style, he says he was quizzed about his views on birth control and whether he believed in Noah's Ark.

"They were asking for a missionary, not a teacher," said Dr Valentine, himself a Methodist lay preacher.

The school is sponsored by Sir Peter Vardy, head of the Reg Vardy car empire and chairman of the controversial Emmanuel Schools Foundation.

"I had five different interviews from staff and members of the Vardy Trust and they were basically sussing out my views on birth control and the Roman Catholic Church," said Dr Valentine.

"I have to say I was made very welcome when I arrived, but we were being grilled according to our theology rather than our teaching ability.

"They asked me what I believed to be the most important duty as head of PTE.

"I replied by saying how important it was to prepare pupils for state examinations, but I was cut short by a sarcastic and disturbing comment - 'What is the point of sending young people out into the world with 20 GCSEs when they're going to go to Hell?'

"Not surprisingly, to my great relief, I was not offered the job. I know it may appear that this is sour grapes from me but it's not.

"Among other things I was angry that my taxes were financing a school which seemed intolerant and imposing one very narrow religious view on its pupils."

Dr Valentine tutors part-time at the University of Bradford and comes from Lancashire.

Mr Nigel McQuoid, director of schools at Emmanuel Schools Foundation, said: "It should be no surprise that he was asked questions relating to world religions, the Bible or Christian theology, especially as King's Academy is keen to maintain both its Christian ethos and its publicly-recognised position as an inclusive school, which gives full and proper respect to students and staff from all religions and none.

"Throughout the day, we were at no stage concerned by Dr Valentine's answers to our questions and he expressed a growing enthusiasm for the post as the day went on.

"At the final point of the interview, he was asked if he remained a serious candidate for the post and he said that he most certainly was.

"His allegations are untrue and the negative way in which he has chosen to interpret the day is disappointing to say the least.

"Thankfully, the vast majority of our students continue to be able to distinguish between the Academy's Christian ethos and their own ability to think and decide what matters for themselves.

"They also enjoy a community spirit in which those from all faith groups and none are happy to work, rest and play alongside each other in an effective and constructive community."

A spokeswoman for the department of education and skills said: "The Vardy Academies do what is required by law.

"The National Curriculum syllabus for science requires that the theory of evolution is taught and this requirement is fully met.

"The National Curriculum specifically states scientific data can be interpreted in different ways and produce different theories (eg the theory of evolution).

"The Vardy Academies' curriculum fully meets these requirements and Ofsted is content with science teaching at them."

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1. Comment #24957 by karlJ on March 9, 2007 at 1:38 pm

 avatarI'm appalled!

This is the worst crime! (If its true). To prevent a "minister"(sorry about that) of science to speek out and share his insights of the world.

Oh, what can we expect next? The Bible(observe the capital B) as the truth? How can anybody take anything of the bible as the truth?

We have a smorgosboard of master religions to choose from, why the bible. Why not the poethic Icelandish edda, the kabbalah, the asa-tro, or anything else. There are so much to choose from. Or why not invent a new religion?

The answer is of course that most people don't need a religion. Sentient people don't believe in superstition or fairy tales.


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2. Comment #24963 by Carl S. Richardson on March 9, 2007 at 2:24 pm

A spokeswoman for the department of education and skills said: "The Vardy Academies do what is required by law.

"The National Curriculum syllabus for science requires that the theory of evolution is taught and this requirement is fully met.

"The National Curriculum specifically states scientific data can be interpreted in different ways and produce different theories (eg the theory of evolution).

"The Vardy Academies' curriculum fully meets these requirements and Ofsted is content with science teaching at them."


What this fails to mention however is that schools of this nature are permitted to teach whatever they wish as long as they teach the curriculum first. That is to say, they must teach the curriculum but once done they can teach whatever else they wish including creationist nonsense. So they can teach evolution one day and the next teach creationism.

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3. Comment #24967 by Linda on March 9, 2007 at 2:37 pm

Valentine should have been better prepared for the interview. If he had brushed up on topical subjects and was able to quote from conservapedia this would not be an issue.

"When Noah was 600 years old, God commanded Noah to build an Ark that would have two of every "clean"(kosher) animal and 7 of every clean animal. Noah did as he was told, God flooded the earth. After the flood (which lasted almost a year), Noah came out of the Ark, and made sacrifices to God. After this, Noah invented wine and got drunk. The resulting series of events led to the cursing of Noah's grandson Canaan."
http://www.conservapedia.com/Noah

Is our children learning?

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4. Comment #24984 by FXR on March 9, 2007 at 3:10 pm

 avatarThe Vardy school is a result of the process whereby Blair has turned Britian into the 51st state.

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5. Comment #24996 by davyB on March 9, 2007 at 3:38 pm

Mr. Sutton needs to look up the word "refuted."

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6. Comment #25007 by BaronOchs on March 9, 2007 at 4:36 pm

 avatarThis place along with similar of these academies is a brainwashing factory. Its sick, it's a parody of education.

Another great New Labour idea like PFI and that botched illegal war.

This article also shows how easily people can use the current newspeak in an attempt to cover what they're really upto.

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7. Comment #25024 by neander on March 9, 2007 at 6:31 pm

 avatarWas this in the US?
(Sarcasm from an Aussie seeing the same thing here).

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8. Comment #25088 by stephenray on March 10, 2007 at 4:02 am

Will somebody please suggest a way to stop these ignorant pillocks writing for the media these days from using the word refute (= 'prove wrong') when they mean 'reject'.

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9. Comment #25123 by posiedon on March 10, 2007 at 9:00 am

 avatarThis is an all too short interview, with the wingnut who is in charge of these academies, it was originally a bit longer, and he admitted that he believed the ark story AND the Jonah nonsense.
It appears to have been edited, to spare him embarrassment???
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=776604372457369166&q=Rod

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10. Comment #25124 by posiedon on March 10, 2007 at 9:02 am

 avatarThis is an all too short interview, with the wingnut who is in charge of these academies, it was originally a bit longer, and he admitted that he believed the ark story AND the Jonah nonsense.
It appears to have been edited, to spare him embarrassment
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=776604372457369166&q=Rod
Sorry, double post, blushes.

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11. Comment #25153 by AbstractMonkey on March 10, 2007 at 1:02 pm

 avatarThis, unfortunately is not the first time this kind of thing has been identified from schools financed by Reg Vardy (a car dealer). Another one of the flagship academies was pulled up for slipping creation & ID into biology classes.

Personally, I have to wonder, given the large non-theistic population of the UK, and the sizeable sections of the Christian community that support separation of evolution & creationinsm to biology and R.E. classes respectively, if the purpose of the academies is to allow the introduction of a more extreme viewpoint.

Given the current authoritarian behaviour, and support of Blair for extreme viewpoints such as those of the Catholic & Anglican church w.r.t gay adoption, it is a distinct possibility. One that we should be worried about as it seems exposure of the activities, and widespread opposition has had little effect on these zealots.

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Abstract Monkey.

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12. Comment #25187 by Veronique on March 10, 2007 at 6:43 pm

 avatarCan any of you UKers tell us how many Emmanuel School colleges there are in your country? I have an impression that there are more than any of us care to imagine. I do know that they exist because of Blair and Vardy. What amazes me is that they found the staff to man them.

I don't know what to make of young Simon however, I instinctively do not trust his comments about his interview. Maybe sour grapes - he says not.

Neander, I didn't realise you were an Australian. Where do you see this happening in our country. I know the Exclusive Brethren have their own schools and teach wonky stuff. You don't see this sort of thing in our state schools do you? Please tell me you don't!

V

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13. Comment #25213 by AbstractMonkey on March 11, 2007 at 3:03 am

 avatar@Veronique

I found several of them listed under that name, and several under 'emanuel'. Are they the ones with the rather seriously Christian-aligned curriculum? There was something a while ago on the news here about a school that looked like its curriculum was written by a cult.

Have a google for them.

This is a link to one - are these what you mean?
http://www.emmanuel.walsall.sch.uk/

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Abstract Monkey.

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14. Comment #25231 by Carl S. Richardson on March 11, 2007 at 6:25 am

Just glancing over the prospectus from the school linked to above (http://www.emmanuel.walsall.sch.uk/) and look at this:

"As from 1st September 1999 the law in this country changed, forbidding Independent Schools to use any form of corporal punishment. Although we believe that this is denying parental rights to fulfil the biblical pattern of discipline, we submit to those in authority over us and therefore have a new structure at this point in our discipline scale."



The prospectus also seems to suggest the school is teaching the kids about eternal punishment for sinners. With it having both a nursery and reception class the shock is clearly heightened.

This school also seems to say "we ignore the national curriculum" but not as candidly as that, have a look:

"We use set schemes for Maths and English and develop our own curriculum in the other
subjects based on what we want the children to learn from God's Word."

"The Key Stage 3 curriculum continues to build on the foundations established in the
Junior Departments. Though more closely based on the National Curriculum, and often
using standard text-books, the subjects taught are still Bible-based and taught from an
entirely Christian perspective."



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15. Comment #25239 by scottishgeologist on March 11, 2007 at 7:08 am

 avatarCarl mentioned:

The prospectus also seems to suggest the school is teaching the kids about eternal punishment for sinners. With it having both a nursery and reception class the shock is clearly heightened.

Fact is, if they have nailed their colours to the mast of evangelicalism (which they clearly have) then they are BOUND to teach these things. After all, hell is a key christian doctrine.

Some fundies would argue that liberal churches are apostate in that they DONT talk about this stuff (Prob because they dont beleive in it)

If these Emmanuel types are true to their faith virus, they will teach that christianity is the ONLY way and that all other faiths lead to hell. Period.

Coz thats what their founder said. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh to the Father but by me." John 14:6

And: Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12

Interestingly however, the word "hell" never crops up in any modern translation of the OT. Also, it does not appear in any of Paul's letters.

Makes you kinda wonder....

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16. Comment #25242 by Jez on March 11, 2007 at 8:05 am

Wow, I really thought I was reading about an American school for a moment there.

I miss my CofE primary school now, the only homage they asked was that I bowed my head and thought nice thoughts during the prayers before dinner. Something that even then I thought was taking the P'

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17. Comment #25245 by BaronOchs on March 11, 2007 at 8:57 am

 avatarVeronique according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Schools_Foundation

They have 3 establisments and are currently looking to open another one in Northumberland. I'm glad to see that apparently their plan for a school in Conisborough fell through after local protest but still, they are a big ugly cancer infecting the north of england.

Speaking of the Exclusive Brethren I remember in the news a few years back controversy when their schools (which apparently don't have windows in order to keep out satanic influences!) received praise from Ofsted, the UK's much loathed school inspectorate.

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18. Comment #25247 by BaronOchs on March 11, 2007 at 9:13 am

 avatarhttp://children.safepassagefoundation.org/archives/2005/03/index.html

That was just the first link I found but holy f***

"The Exclusive Brethren, which also believes that members should not go to university because it is too "worldly," runs 43 private schools educating 1,400 children."

. . .Welcome to Britain, a theocracy since . ..2015? oh dear

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19. Comment #25399 by Veronique on March 12, 2007 at 11:29 pm

 avatarAbstractMonkey - these are the schools alright. I thought there were more of them. They were set up when Blair offered (I think to the public) that if someone were to come up with 10% private funding, his government would come up with the rest to start independent schools. Vardy offered $20M from memory and Blair wacked in the rest and gave Vardy a knighthood!!. That was the genesis of the Emmanuel colleges. Vardy won't stop at three, but I am pleased his latest effort has been quashed. I had the impression they were in the north (oh my poor Yorkshire, land of my grandfather!)

Carl - see, looking at the Emmanuel website, little Simon knew what job he was applying for. That's why I don't trust his 'complaints' about his interview. He knew he was headed to a creationist movement establishment. Even the organisation that monitors education standards in the UK has said, and I can't remember where I read it, that the Emmanuel colleges reach a high standard in meeting the national education criteria. What is going on when the monitoring body can say something like that? Unless the colleges' mandatory reporting are so smooth that they can fool that bureaucracy. I presume that the bureaucracy must be Ofsted?

ScottishGeologist - did you find the video where McQuoid was interviewed by a nearly apoplectic interviewer-Rod Liddell. I think I traced it from the link at the top of this article. Urbane?? McQuoid had it in spades!! Unflappable, smooth, nice grey suit etc etc.

BaronOchs - oh dear, indeed. I checked out your link. Bloody frightening. I know that here in Oz, we have the largest group of Exclusive Brethren of whatever particular sect and it is seriously WEALTHY. One of our Green senators brought up in Parliament the fact that the sect had targetted him. This sect (didn't know about the windows) won't let its children watch TV, use mobiles or email; definitely no internet and they aren't allowed to mix with other kids. It's a secretive sect, about 14,000 members, they tend to home school if there's not one of their 'schools' in a particular area. No university. Break with the sect and you are denied access to your WHOLE family. I'll see if I can backtrack to where I first heard of them and will get back to you. Why is Ofsted loathed?

It's not as if any of us here want anything to do with this stuff, it's just that we need to know what they are up to. These are dangerous, wealthy and influential people.

Keep an eye on this thread for a few days and I'll find some websites for you. Disgusting isn't it?

Thank you all so much for what you have found.

Cheers
V

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20. Comment #25401 by Veronique on March 13, 2007 at 12:05 am

 avatarSorry guys - check the link on Poseidon's comment 10 - that is Rod Liddell's interview with McQuoid. Liddell does become apoplectic.

Still looking for Oz's Hansard where our Green senator (Bob Brown) mentions the Ex. Brethren targetting him.

Cheers
V

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21. Comment #25403 by Veronique on March 13, 2007 at 12:35 am

 avatarCarl - I looked through the 59 page prospectus. If the grammar of that prospectus is how the teachers intend to teach the children, then I would suggest the teachers work out the consistency of using the singular and plural in one sentence.

Sorry, it is a bitch of mine.

It is patently obvious and stated that these people are evangelical xtians. I wouldn't let a child of mine within 100 yards of this school.

V

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22. Comment #25405 by Veronique on March 13, 2007 at 1:08 am

 avatarRight - found the Sydney Morning Herald article re: Ex. Brethren

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/07/01/1151174401719.html?from=top5

I hope you can use this as a link. I'm not terrific at knowing how to manipulate these things.

There's this one as well

http://www.caic.org.au/biblebase/brethren/brethren2.htm

This is a sort of history of these groups.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/brethren-linked-to-howard-campaign/2005/09/15/1126750082584.html

This is about our white-picket-fence Prime Minister and the Ex. Brethren.

Let me know what you think. I apologise for this unprecedented number of comments.

V

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23. Comment #25413 by scottishgeologist on March 13, 2007 at 2:05 am

 avatarVeronique

No need to apologise - if you've got good stuff, keep it coming! Interesting to hear the Australian side of things. Always think of Oz as a modern, forward looking progressive sort of place.

Looks like you've got your nutjobs as well. After all that creationist "geologist" John Mackay who did a tour of the UK recently is from Australia - there is also the lovely Ken Ham.

Ther is another matter which is now slowly fading from memory. Readers of this site will be familiar with David Robertson, pastor in the Free Church of Scotland. There was an almighty row and schism in the church a few years ago, over an alleged "affair" in Australia. You can read a brief resume of it here:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-60026680.html

Sorry if this is a bit off topic - but it shows just how corrupt some of these holier than thou types can be.

But to go BACK on topic, there is an obscure web site here:

http://www.aapi.co.uk/mansbacher/absent-minded.htm

which has a very interesting article about Christian schools and the same Professor. Mind you, the article was written by a complete nutjob who was thrown out the church.....

You know, non-belief is actually much, much easier...

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24. Comment #25627 by BaronOchs on March 14, 2007 at 11:07 am

 avatarVeronique Ofsted is loathed because . . .well:

http://www.tes.co.uk/search/story/?story_id=2258723

The teaching profession is not in a good way in Britain at the moment due to the masses of paperwork and planning and overtesting and league tables they have to worry about, Ofsted don't seem to help the situation either. Anyhow if we get taken over by some mad fanatics they'll serve just fine as "The New Holy Office for Standards in Divine Instruction" or whatever.

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25. Comment #67899 by ATH1 on September 5, 2007 at 4:58 am

 avatarShut it down!

I think we all know what sign we would like to see outside that place...

'Under New Management!'

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