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Saturday, March 24, 2007 | Reason : Science of Religion | print version Print | Comments

Document The many forms of fundamentalism

by James Carroll, Boston Globe

Reposted from:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/03/19/the_many_forms_of_fundamentalism/

NEARLY A decade and a half ago, this condemnation of fundamentalism was issued: "The fundamentalist approach is dangerous, for it is attractive to people who look to the Bible for ready answers to the problems of life . . . instead of telling them that the Bible does not necessarily contain an immediate answer to each and every problem. . . . Fundamentalism actually invites people to a kind of intellectual suicide. It injects into life a false certitude, for it unwittingly confuses the divine substance of the biblical message with what are in fact its human limitations." This robust denunciation came from the Vatican, in a 1993 document entitled "The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church."

The phenomenon of "fundamentalism" has made an extraordinary impact on the world. But what is it? The scholar Gabriel A. Almond defines fundamentalism as "religious militance by which self-styled 'true-believers' attempt to arrest the erosion of religious identity, fortify the borders of the religious community, and create viable alternatives to secular institutions and behaviors." Some fundamentalists pursue openly political agendas (Northern Ireland, Israel, Iran). Some are apolitical (Latin American Pentecostalism). In war zones (Sudan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Sri Lanka), fundamentalism is energizing conflict. Most notably, the warring groups in Iraq have jelled around fundamentalist religion.

These varied manifestations resist being defined with one word, which is why it is better, as Almond suggests, to speak of "fundamentalisms." But they all have something in common, and as the Vatican critique of biblical fundamentalism suggests, it is dangerous. The impulse may begin with good intentions, the wish to affirm basic values and sources of meaning that seemed threatened. The term was born when conservative Protestants in early-20th-century America committed themselves to defend the five "fundamentals" of their faith -- the inerrancy of the Bible, virgin birth and deity of Jesus, doctrine of atonement, bodily resurrection of Jesus, and his imminent return. That movement was a rejection, especially, of the historical-critical mode of biblical interpretation, and of Darwinian science. These characteristics still animate Protestant fundamentalism.

But all fundamentalisms, rejecting a secular claim to have replaced the sacred as chief source of meaning, are skeptical of Enlightenment values, even as the Enlightenment project has begun to criticize itself. But now "old time religion" of whatever stripe faces a plethora of threats: new technologies, globalization, the market economy, rampant individualism, diversity, pluralism, mobility -- all that makes for 21st-century life. Fundamentalisms will especially thrive wherever there is violent conflict, and wherever there is stark poverty, simply because these religiously absolute movements promise meaning where there is no meaning. For all these reasons, fundamentalisms are everywhere.

Even in contemporary Roman Catholicism, with whose condemnation of fundamentalism we began. Catholic fundamentalists are more likely to be called "traditionalists," and today the Vatican is their sponsor. Instead of reading the Bible uncritically, in search of "ready answers to the problems of life," they read papal statements that way, finding in encyclicals the "false certitude" that the Vatican warns biblical literalists against. The most recent case in point is Pope Benedict's "Apostolic Exhortation," issued last week. What begins as a contemplative appreciation of the Eucharist ends up as a manifesto designed to keep many Catholics from receiving Communion at Mass. The ticket to Communion is an uncritical acceptance of what the pope calls, in a striking echo, "fundamental values," which include defense of human life "from conception to natural death." The key declaration is that "these values are not negotiable."

But culture consists precisely in negotiation of values, and change in how values are understood is part of life. Moral reasoning is not mere obedience, but lively interaction among principles, situations, and the "human limitations" referred to in the 1993 Vatican statement. Take "conception." The great Thomas Aquinas depended on 13th-century notions of biology, and did not believe that human life began at conception. Negotiation followed. Take "natural death." Disagreements over its meaning (including among Catholic bishops) were made vivid not long ago in the case of Terri Schiavo. Negotiation followed. The pope affirms universal and unchanging "values grounded in human nature," as if human nature is fixed, instead of evolving. One detects here, too, a suspicion of Darwin, an invitation to "intellectual suicide."

The various fundamentalisms are all concerned with "fortifying borders," and that is a purpose of today's Vatican. The pope's exhortation concludes by referring to the Catholic people as the "flock" entrusted to bishops. Sheep stay inside the fence. But what happens when Catholics stop thinking of themselves as sheep?

James Carroll's column appears regularly in the Globe.

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1. Comment #27447 by James Carroll on March 24, 2007 at 5:19 pm

Yah, my columns are always in the Globe.

Lol.

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2. Comment #27454 by DavidJMH on March 24, 2007 at 5:50 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen,
James Carroll has made the point precisely, even if he has to some extent confined himself to Roman Catholic Christianity. Let us be clear, all religions pray upon the mentality of sheep and that is exactly what all fundementalists are. A point the religious are entirely unable to grasp is Atheists et al are not sheep and Darwinian evolution is not a belief; we question everything and demand reasonable explanations.

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3. Comment #27469 by Greywizard on March 24, 2007 at 6:49 pm

"...all fundamentalisms, rejecting a secular claim to have replaced the sacred as chief source of meaning, are skeptical of Enlightenment values, even as the Enlightenment project has begun to criticize itself."

What does this mean? The Enlightenment project is not a person. It cannot criticize itself. Some people may have lost faith in the Enlightenment project, the project of bringing reason to bear on knowledge, morality, social order, political organization, etc. But in what possible sense is this the Enlightenment criticizing itself? This is the kind of careless thinking that the Enlightenment project sought to minimize.

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4. Comment #27470 by MelM on March 24, 2007 at 6:53 pm

One way or the other, they're getting into the U.S. schools.

Caution: starts with loud music. National Council on Bible Curriculum.
http://www.bibleinschools.net/
Claims curriculum has been voted into 382 school districts in 37 states.

Then we have the book "The Bible and Its Influence" from Bible Literacy Project.
http://www.bibleliteracy.org/Site/index2.htm
Claim: "After first 18 months, The Bible and Its Influence, is used in 83 school districts in 30 states" Note that the Time Magazine article link is for April 2, 2007. (Yup, that's what the cover looks like.)

I wonder if there will be any "teach the controversy" or "critical thinking skills" content to this curriculum?

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5. Comment #27472 by Greywizard on March 24, 2007 at 6:59 pm

I might add that while I agree with the substance of Carroll's piece on fundamentalism - along with his identification of the Vatican as one of fundamentalism's sponsors - his remark about the Enlightenment project tacitly supports fundamentalists' scepticism regarding Enlightenment values - why shouldn't they, if the Enlightenment project is sceptical of itself? - when it is, in fact, largely, the increasing appeals to tradition and authority - in contrast to the open texture of rational argument and scientific method - by fundamentalists and their friends that constitutes the contemporary criticism of the Enlightenment project.

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6. Comment #27473 by BaronOchs on March 24, 2007 at 7:06 pm

 avatarI think the "Enlightenment criticising itself" bit is a reference to postmodernism. Regarding which I'm perfectly willing to listen to anyone who can actually explain me what it's about.

What I do know about postmodernism is it has provided a nice fig-leaf for backward thinking "radical orthodoxy" theologians. Not what the postmods intended I'm sure but there you are.

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7. Comment #27476 by PsyPro on March 24, 2007 at 8:07 pm

 avatarAll I follow of postmodernism is this line about a postmodernist Mafioso: he makes you an offer you can't understand.

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8. Comment #27507 by Greywizard on March 25, 2007 at 4:28 am

No argument, BaronOchs, 'the Enlightenment criticizing itself' has to do with postmodernism. Still don't see what it has to do with the Enlightenment criticizing itself.

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9. Comment #27515 by Corylus on March 25, 2007 at 5:29 am

 avatarPeople are asking "What is postmodernism?" Tough one!

I hesitate to give an answer to this, as I am sure that there are others on here much more qualified, and it's been a while since I studied this :-).

What is Postmodernism?
In a nutshell, Postmodernism is characterised as a distrust of overarching claims to knowledge.

How did this arise?
Well, lots of debate on this one, I would say that it pretty much boils down to the soul-searching and disillusionment that took place after the hideous events of the two world wars. Optimism and certainty disappeared (particularly amongst the colonial nations of Europe). A pivotal moment appears to have been the Nuremberg Trials – how could these seemly sane educated men act in such a fashion? Could they even claim that they were acting in accordance with the Kantian Categorical Imperative?

There was also a growing realisation that the paternalistic meddling in the affairs of less developed nations that the West had indulged in for so long was coming home to roost. E.g. Did we get it all hideously wrong? Can it be that those in the West are the real 'savages'?

This, (admittedly totally justified!) questioning had wide ranging (and not always welcome) effects in a variety of fields.

Architecture
This is one of the earliest manifestations of postmodernism. E.g. "Lets build new and interesting buildings and forget the past." (N.B. This was also aided by the manufacture of new and exciting building materials).

Nothing wrong with this per se, but the irony is that is those architects who insist in 'thinking outside the box' often end up just building boxes.

History
There was a rejection of the understanding of history as a teleological discipline: sometimes things get better rather than worse! Very true, sometimes they do.

In terms of the implications of this, well, there was a rejection of Hegel (good plan). However, there was also a rejection of any idea of progress and pessimism with regard to societal change, e.g. Foucault's unrelentingly miserable histories (bad plan).

Politics
What are political theorists, but those with overarching claims? Gotta Go! This is shown in the flirtation with anarchism. Young post-modernists are good with this: they grow out of it when they realise, (that contrary their rose-tinted views) the general public does not just consist of suppressed noble savages eager to throw off the yoke of repression. There are also lots of low-life scum who will, without Police and the rule of law, happily steal your CD player and molest your pet gerbil.

BTW: Postmodernists with all their distrust of wide ranging claims still often show an unsupported and emotional attachment to Marx – something I happen to find quite amusing.

Philosophy (particularly of science)
Oh dear, this is where people on this board will get cross! One of the arguments for the Enlightenment being a good thing lies in the technological and scientific advances made, what if this is all wrong? What if science is non teleological too? Einstein comes along and messes with Newton, whatever is next!

What if there is no progress in scientific endeavour, but merely different changes of viewpoint? What if there are just 'paradigmatic shifts' (Kuhn) or 'epistemological breaks' (Bachelard).

This led to a rejection of Popper. Well, I do have a TINY but of sympathy here – I do reckon Popper can be a bit simplistic. Waits for bullets to fly ;-) However, this thinking can also lead to the most indescribable idiocy.

Firstly, there is a rejection of scientific 'truths'. There is an idea that while they have surface validity, science is just one of many different types of 'discourse'.

(RD makes the point that these are the very people who trust scientific truths when they fly in aeroplanes, and I have to agree).

Secondly, and just as dangerously, there is a tendency to assume that as; science is merely one type of discourse; its truths are interchangeable with those of other discourses. For example, Heisenberg as an argument for agnosticism, or worse, a proof of God. FFS!

Feminism
This is where I get cross, (I'm a girl so I'm allowed). It is pointed out that the whole Enlightenment business was a male endeavour (those women involved tend to get conveniently ignored). Science is a male endeavour; lets ignore it. (The women involved here get conveniently ignored too) In fact let's ignore men as well. Lets sit in a room, moan about male repression, but do absolutely nothing to agitate for equal rights and opportunities in all types of 'discourse' as this is a waste of time. Grrr... Daft cows!

Conclusion
I do seem to have gone on and ranted a bit… sorry!! But I guess my point is that post-modernism went from justified suspicion concerning the sweeping claims made by those in power to unjustified relativism, and it is very pervasive. It also has an annoying tendency to mess with young questioning minds and waste their time.

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10. Comment #27540 by Logicel on March 25, 2007 at 8:08 am

 avatarCorylus, nice synopsis of postmodernism--I especially enjoyed the conclusion.

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11. Comment #27605 by Greywizard on March 25, 2007 at 3:14 pm

Corylus. Yes, a nice summary of postmodernism, but you don't ask the $64,000 question: Is there any such thing? I understand all that about rejecting absolutisms, and thinking that knowledge is relative, and all that. But we've seen this before. Protagoras was a good example of that, but he was scarcely a postmodernist.

Besides, Enlightenment rationalism was, at least in part, a rejection of absolutisms anyway. Science itself is a case in point, and Popper's point, though it may not have provided a final understanding of the meaning of scientific statements, was that all theories, in order to say anything, had to be falsifiable. If they didn't rule out anything, they didn't say anything either. That's a good logical point. But Popper, though he seemed to deny the possibility of scientific truth (because all scientific theories must be, in principle, falsifiable), was scarcely a postmodernist.

That's why I don't understand the idea in James Carroll's piece about the Enlightenment criticising itself. That's what Enlightenment is all about: critical knowledge! So, of course, on Enlightenment principles, we must always be awake to the possibility, in any given case, that we may be wrong. But to suppose that this critical principle is itself wrong is simply to give up the whole project of knowing (and criticism) itself. Some people think this makes sense. I don't think it does.

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12. Comment #27665 by Corylus on March 26, 2007 at 3:49 am

 avatarGrey Wizard

I really do understand where you are coming from. The whole thing does indeed make no sense whatsoever!

Breaking things down, I would say the whole 'enlightenment questioning itself' argument is put forward by two different types of people.

1) Those that do not understand the Enlightenment, which (as you rightly point out) was about questioning. This is common amongst young people given a little learning by inept teachers.

2) Those who do understand the Enlightenment, but take issue with its' central tenet: that of progress through questioning. (These are the scary ones). That is the real difference between Enlightenment questioning and post-modern questioning: the notion of progress. While the Enlightenment was about optimism, post modernism is about nihilism. (I am sure that some would accuse me of oversimplification here, but this is really as I see it).

So when these people talk about 'the enlightenment questioning itself' they are not questioning questioning. (If that makes sense!) What they are questioning is whether there is any point listening to the answers. They persist in questioning themselves though, because they do not know what else to do.

You are correct, it makes no sense: I am going to nail my colours to the mast here… Postmodernism is drivel. It is self-referential, nihilistic, relativistic, obscurantist hogwash. Unfortunately, it is fashionable and because of the long words and run on sentences used by its proponents, it appears much more profound than it actually is.

Rant over! I feel better for that. Thanks you giving me a chance to get on one of my favourite soapboxes. :-)

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13. Comment #27683 by MouthAlmighty on March 26, 2007 at 6:00 am

 avatarCorylus - thanks for the summary.

Further to your comments on the feminist aspect of postmodernist thought, a good friend of mine is a mathematician specialising in fluid dynamics who just loves this little bit of wisdom from Luce Irigaray...

The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. . . From this perspective it is no wonder that science has not been able to arrive at a successful model for turbulence. The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders.


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14. Comment #27705 by severalspeciesof on March 26, 2007 at 8:14 am

 avatar"But what happens when Catholics stop thinking of themselves as sheep?"

If they're true to themselves, they should stop calling themselves Catholic, according to the Pope.

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15. Comment #27717 by Greywizard on March 26, 2007 at 10:21 am

Corylus. Thanks for this paragraph in particular.

"So when these people talk about 'the enlightenment questioning itself' they are not questioning questioning. (If that makes sense!) What they are questioning is whether there is any point listening to the answers. They persist in questioning themselves though, because they do not know what else to do."

That hits the nail on the head, especially, "What they are questioning is whether there is any point listening to the answers."

Thanks. You rant very well.

Cheers.

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16. Comment #27771 by Shuggy on March 26, 2007 at 3:55 pm

 avatar"The ticket to Communion is an uncritical acceptance of what the pope calls, in a striking echo, "fundamental values," which include defense of human life "from conception to natural death." The key declaration is that "these values are not negotiable.""

Then how come the Catholic Church is so hard on abortion and euthanasia and so soft on capital punishment and war?

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17. Comment #27812 by taliesin on March 26, 2007 at 10:33 pm

Corylus, thanks for the excellent anti-postmodernism posts!

You might possibly enjoy the Postmodernism Generator -- > http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

(make sure you read the explanation at the bottom of the page!)

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18. Comment #34715 by Cormac on April 25, 2007 at 1:49 am

 avatartaliesin,

I love it. This kind of drivel ruined my time studying English at University. I loved English in second level education, and continue to read voraciously.

That essay from the Postmodernism Generator may be complete drivel, but it reads exactly like the sh*te that was admired by the loonies who ran the English department in UCD (University College Dublin) prior to Prof Mays.

When I got to university, it was all this political pseudo-knowledge rubbish. Not an original thought or vision of beauty amongst the whole lot of them. Every essay was along the lines of "Critically analyse the two girls on the beach chapter in Joyce's A Portrait of the Artist from a radical lesbian feminist perspective", or "Deconstruct Shelley's Frankenstein with reference to the theories of Derrida, De Beauvoir, Cixous, and Kristeva". Many of our lecturers exhorted the women in my class (and there were about 1400 in my class), to taste their own menstrual blood and taught that all men are rapists. (I'm not joking).

Completely irrelevant and totally incomprehensible. What does it add to society to rehash someone else's thoughts like so many sheep. It removes all ability to question, and with it the possibility of original thought. This means that UCD English was producing robots rather than thinkers in those days.

I lost all interest, and spent my time partying and training in martial arts instead!

The only saving grace was that Professor JCC Mays was appointed as head of the department in my final year. He immediately started making changes, to my delight.

In fact, the approach to English in UCD at the time would have been more suited to a module in a course on politics or philosophy, where the validity of the various agenda could be put to question. It was obviously much safer to push the agenda in an English course, where it was less likely to come up against trained critical thinkers.

Phew, I guess I needed a rant too!

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19. Comment #34720 by Cormac on April 25, 2007 at 1:58 am

 avatarCorylus,

An earlier post of mine seems to have been lost. Anyway, it was a post embarrassing in its enthusiasm for your posts on this thread.

I think you should write a book on the topic, as you are clearly very well read, have a clear manner that cuts through the bull, and a refreshing style of writing.

I for one would buy your book.

Cormac.

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20. Comment #34722 by Cormac on April 25, 2007 at 2:05 am

 avatarMouthAlmighty.

I laughed at your post. It is exactly that kind of rubbish that my lecturers in English used to go on with in the early 90s.

Unmitigated twaddle. Can you believe that they thought that their silliness could actually have a practical effect in mechanics let alone science?

To paraphrase what has been quoted on this thread already - They trust planes, cars, and trains don't they? (or probably bicycles in this specific case). See how well their plane lands without the mastery of fluid mechanics that exists in hydraulic suspension. See how well it flies without the pressured injection of fuel into the jet engine.

I'd love to see a post-modernist jet, car, dishwasher, lawnmower, telephone or any other modern appliance. Can you imagine the postmodernist life? You'd be in a state of constant and debilitating anxiety about whether or not your phone will connect you to another person for a conversation, or turn into a ham sandwich. After all, it is simply a matter of perspective, of whichever paradigm from which you are operating. Life would be one long episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus!

An existentialist post-modernist would be even funnier.

Incidentally, if you could get a post-modernist to use the phrase "kitchen appliance" you could trap them in a logical inconsistency simply by asking "appliance of what". The only answer is of course "Science", which they'd then have to recognise as having a fundamental reliability independent of the "world-view" of any human.

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