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Monday, April 9, 2007 | Reason : Commentary | print version Print | Comments

Document The Coulter Hoax: How Ann Coulter Exposed the Intelligent Design Movement

by Peter Olofsson

Reposted from:
http://www.livescience.com/othernews/070407_coulter_hoax.html

Thanks to AtheistJunkie for sending this in.


In the summer of 2006, I heard that a new book called Godless presented an insightful and devastating criticism of the theory of evolution. Although I learned that its author, Ann Coulter, is not a scientist but a lawyer turned author and TV pundit, she nevertheless appeared to be an intelligent and well-educated person, so I started reading.

At first I was puzzled. There did not seem to be anything new; only tired and outdated antievolution arguments involving moths, finches, and fruit flies. But it wasn't until Coulter dusted off the old Piltdown man story that I suddenly realized: it was a hoax! And it was brilliant.

Coulter has very cleverly written a fake criticism of evolution, much like the way NYU physicist Alan Sokal in 1996 published a fake physics article in a literary journal, an affair that has become known as the "Sokal hoax." A self-proclaimed "old unabashed leftist," Sokal was disturbed by the sloppily antiscientific, postmodernistic mentality that had started to replace reason and rationality within the academic left and ingeniously made his point by managing to get his nonsense article published by the very people he wished to expose.

Coulter's aim at antiscience is at the other end of the political spectrum. An equally unabashed rightist, she is apparently disturbed by how factions within the political right abandon their normally rational standards when it comes to the issue of evolution. However, whereas Sokal revealed his hoax in a separate article, Coulter challenges her readers to find out the truth for themselves. Without claiming to do justice to Coulter's multifaceted and sometimes subtle satire, I will attempt to outline some of her most amusing and salient points.

Intelligent Design and astrology

The attacks on evolution these days come not so much from traditional creationists, adhering to the literal interpretation of Genesis, as from proponents of intelligent design (ID), the notion that some biological systems are so complicated that they must have been designed. Unlike creationists, the ID proponents refuse to identify the designer; in particular, they do not mention God. As a matter of fact, design is only defined as "anything else but chance."

A problem with ID that has been pointed out over and over is that it isn't much of a scientific theory, as it does not attempt to explain anything, only criticize evolutionary biology. Coulter makes this point subtly. She nicely summarizes the theory of evolution by listing the main driving forces, mutation and natural selection, and the conclusion, creation of new species. And the corresponding summary of ID? Absent! Admirably clever.

Two of the most vehement ID advocates are Michael Behe and William Dembski. Behe is a professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University and one of very few ID proponents who is actually a scientist with an established research record. In 1996 Behe published Darwin's Black Box, which claims to present a biochemical challenge to evolutionary biology, a claim that has been thoroughly opposed, for example, by Brown University biology professor Kenneth Miller. It is hard for most of us to follow the technical arguments, but Behe would be the first to admit (and in fact does so on his academic Web site) that he is very lonely among his peers in advocating ID.

Coulter makes fun of Behe by vastly exaggerating his claims. For example, she claims that Behe has "disproved evolution" by demonstrating it to be a "mathematical impossibility." The truth is that Behe, who has no expertise in mathematics, accepts much of evolutionary theory.

On occasion, Coulter's satire is quite esoteric. Such is the case when she states, "Behe disproved evolution—unless evolution is simply a nondisprovable pseudoscience, like astrology." To understand the subtle linking of Behe to astrology, one must be familiar with Behe's testimony in the Dover trial in which he had to concede that if intelligent design was accepted as science, one must also accept astrology.

The other front figure, William Dembski, is a research professor in philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. I think Coulter is perhaps overly sarcastic when she lists his background: doctorate in mathematics, master of divinity degree, postdoctoral work in mathematics, physics, and computer science.

The sarcasm here is that Coulter lists postdoctoral positions in physics, mathematics, and computer science, but when one looks up Dembski's publication record, none of these positions led to any published research. In fact, Dembski has published precisely one original research article in a reputable journal: a 1990 paper on probability theory. Coulter goes on to refer to Dembski's "complicated mathematical formulas" and "statistical models" and jokes that there is yet no serious response. In reality, the few mathematicians who have bothered examining Dembski's mathematics have been completely unimpressed. A nice summary and evaluation of Dembski's oeuvre was written for the Dover trial by renowned mathematician Jeffrey Shallit. Shallit's conclusion in one word: pseudomathematics.

The Return of Mr. Piltdown

Arguments against evolution have not evolved much. Coulter illustrates this fact by repeating many old antievolution arguments, some of which are wrong, some of which are irrelevant, and some of which are both. I will only briefly touch upon three: the Piltdown man, the peppered moth, and the fossil record.

The Piltdown man has been a favorite in the antievolution camp for a long time. A fake fossil composed of a human skull and the jaw bone of an ape, the Piltdown man was "discovered" in 1912, and it was not until 1953 that the hoax was revealed. Was it then exposed by a team of lawyers led by Reverend Fred Phelps of Kansas? No such thing. The fraud was exposed by scientists, doing what they usually do: trying to figure out the truth. Moreover, there was no crisis in the scientific community.

In fact, quite the opposite was true, as the Piltdown man was mostly regarded as an anomaly that did not fit into the evolution of man, and everybody was glad to see him gone. Coulter's joke consists of the mere mention of good old Mr. Piltdown, who obviously cannot in any way be used as an argument against evolution.

The peppered moth is a famous example of natural selection. During the industrial revolution in England, the light-colored variety of the moth started being replaced by a dark variety that was better camouflaged against predators as soot from the burning of coal started coating the countryside. This logical and seemingly innocent example has not escaped the ire of ID proponents. Coulter makes fun of the irrelevant complaint that the famous photos of the moths that have appeared in many biology books were staged. But, of course, one can stage a photo for the purpose of comparison, just like a Photoshop job could put Coulter next to Johnny Winter to compare a lawyer from Connecticut and a blues guitarist from Texas.

As for the fossil record, finally, Coulter bluntly states that it carries "no evidence" and supports this claim by jokingly referring to the authority of a Phillip Johnson, who is a lawyer!

A gigantic conspiracy?

If evolutionary theory is not a legitimate science, it must be the biggest scam the world has ever seen.

By referring to "pseudoscience" and biology teachers "lying to your children," Coulter makes fun of the conspiracy theorists in the antievolution crowd. It's all a gigantic worldwide cover-up (probably orchestrated by the same people who blew up the World Trade Center and the levees in New Orleans, and tried to blame "terrorists" and a "hurricane"). It includes not only university professors and researchers but high-school teachers, science reporters, and Alex Trebek. And not only in America; the conspiracy is worldwide. It is nothing short of a miracle how well organized it is.

Coulter also has some fun with the common debating trick "reductio ad Hitlerum," the idea that any argument is invalidated if it can be somehow linked to Hitler. In the case of evolution, the argument comes in handy in claiming that Nazism is a logical consequence of belief in evolution and that the latter must therefore be flawed science.

This argument is silly in many ways. First, the validity of a scientific theory does not hinge upon how it has been interpreted by German dictators. And second, a scientific theory is not an ideology; it aims at explaining nature, not telling us what to do. Evolutionary biology did not oblige Hitler to kill Jews any more than nuclear physics mandates Kim Jong-Il to acquire the atomic bomb. And the theory of gravity does not require that you go jump off a bridge.

What about God, then?

Evolutionary biology is no more an atheistic theory than is nuclear physics, relativity theory, or astronomy.

Famous British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins is an atheist, the previously mentioned Kenneth Miller is a Catholic, and Michael Behe stated during the Dover trial that Darwin's theory of evolution is not at all inconsistent with his private religious beliefs. Inserting mystical or religious explanations for natural phenomena is not new and did not even escape the great Isaac Newton. He believed that the solar system was unstable and required the occasional touch of the hand of God to stay in order. Later, the French scientist Pierre-Simon Laplace showed that the solar system was indeed stable without the hand of God. By that time, Newton was long dead but would easily have accepted Laplace's theory about the solar system without losing his faith that God was ultimately responsible for its creation.

The tale of Newton and Laplace brings us to the question why there is, in some circles, such fear of science. Coulter points out that no science is frightening to Christians, thus encouraging people to accept that scientific results are not a threat to their faith. I certainly agree. Richard Dawkins and Kenneth Miller disagree about God's existence, and it is up to you to decide with whom you agree.

However, when it comes to evolutionary biology, they agree and they know what they are talking about. It is unfortunate that some people are so insecure in their faith that they fear their own intellects, especially as the concept of man's free choice is central in Christian theology, making it perfectly logical that God has created the world so that we can explain it without assuming Him as a hypothesis. Coulter offers these encouraging words: "Of course it's possible to believe in God and in evolution" and "If evolution is true, then God created evolution."

In conclusion, Coulter has written a biting satire over the trend of anti-intellectualism that clouds part of the conservative ideology, which is otherwise based on principle and reason. If I have any objection to Coulter's piece, it would be that it is a bit lengthy, but perhaps this too is part of the satire, as some antievolution pieces tend to be pretty verbose. There are also some things I don't fully understand, for example several references to bestiality and some seemingly nonsequitur remarks about Cher and Elton John. Considering how wonderfully multilayered Coulter's writing is, I am sure there is a perfectly logical explanation.

SPECIAL REPORT: Evolution and Intelligent Design
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050922_ID_main.html

Peter Olofsson, whose PhD is in mathematical statistics from Göteborg University in Sweden, is a visiting associate professor in the Department of Mathematics at Tulane University. He has done research in mathematical biology and published two books: one textbook in probability and statistics and one new popular-science book, Probabilities: The Little Numbers That Rule Our Lives. His Web page is at http://www.peterolofsson.com.

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1. Comment #30753 by MIND_REBEL on April 9, 2007 at 5:10 pm

 avatarThe intelligent design movement is a huge hoax. It's an attempt to turn america into a theocracy.

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2. Comment #30754 by pault on April 9, 2007 at 5:12 pm

 avatarI don't think Coulter is that clever to write a parody of ID.

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3. Comment #30759 by Rtambree on April 9, 2007 at 5:38 pm

This is getting confusing. Is Coulter really an atheist liberal trying to infiltrate right wing creationism by writing a parody of ID, trying to out-Colbert Colbert, by adding one more twist?

Perhaps it's all a plan within a plan within the Matrix. Believe nothing.

The media is run by a secret cabal of Rabbis in Jerusalem who are really working for the CIA infiltrated by Al Qaeda, who are really aliens led by Elvis from Atlantis that have an agenda to fake moon landings by manipulating crop circles.

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4. Comment #30761 by maton100 on April 9, 2007 at 5:45 pm

 avatarAnn Coulter's own existence provides infinite plausibility to mutation within natural selection.

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5. Comment #30763 by maton100 on April 9, 2007 at 5:49 pm

 avatarCoulter is a parody of herself. A perfect example of capitalism gone awry. Ann Coulter's persona has been intelligently designed to fleece the pockets of consumers.

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6. Comment #30764 by k1mgy on April 9, 2007 at 5:53 pm

 avatar"Ann Coulter's own existence provides infinite plausibility to mutation within natural selection."

Ann Coulter's existence underscores my breeding motto: "only with humans".

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7. Comment #30767 by Chris Davis on April 9, 2007 at 6:05 pm

 avatarNice! Humour's an excellent way to respond to Coulter - to counter the powerful urge to bite her throat out.

CD

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8. Comment #30773 by ghostbuster on April 9, 2007 at 6:29 pm

Ann Coulter is nothing more than Jerry Springer in heels. They both sell garbage for big bucks and I wouldn't credit her for anything, including her book.

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9. Comment #30774 by Devolution on April 9, 2007 at 6:30 pm

 avatarVery clever, I really had to read the whole article to be sure he was joking. Coulter is a mega c***, can I say c*** here? Ok good C-*-*-*

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10. Comment #30775 by windweaver on April 9, 2007 at 6:37 pm

 avatarAnn Coulter is one of the vilest people to ever inhabit the planet. Here's a small sample of her vitriol:

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97

"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97

"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97

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11. Comment #30776 by John Pritzlaff on April 9, 2007 at 6:37 pm

Good article... satirically labeling something satire...

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12. Comment #30777 by Fishpeddler on April 9, 2007 at 6:42 pm

 avatarThis humorous take on Coulter -- that she is actually satirizing the extremists in her own party -- reminds me of a common temptation of mine. I often think it would be brilliantly ironic and funny to write a parody of books like Coulter's, or the Left Behind series, that are subtle enough that you could sell books to the same audience you are making fun of. Fortunately, I have read Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut, which will prevent me from ever making such a foolish mistake. The primary moral of the story, out of many, is stated at the beginning:

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."

A fascinating cautionary tale.

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13. Comment #30791 by DavidJMH on April 9, 2007 at 8:29 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen,
One can always tell when someone like Ann Coulter is hitting the mark; the loony left liberals who think they are so so free thinking and intellectualy superior squeal like squashed cats. Ann is an example of someone who is successful; she has found a large market in those little nobodies who like to vilify her. What you lot can't see is she is taking the piss out of you.

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14. Comment #30798 by crazy4blues on April 9, 2007 at 9:54 pm

 avatarNow, this article just goes too far! Comparing Ann Coulter to a drug-addled, recovering albino blues guitarist! That just isn't fair to poor Johnny Winter!!!!

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15. Comment #30799 by Veronique on April 9, 2007 at 10:05 pm

 avatarWindweaver,

What a lovely selection of quotes from the hateful Coulter. Thank you so much for them.

It took me a while to realise that Olofsson was taking the piss. Nicely done, I kept smiling throughout his review of her book.

When I first came across Coulter on an American Taliban website, I couldn't believe the quote the site appended to her. So, I checked her out on youtube and listened to her ravings and vitriol (I consumed quite a lot of wine that evening: I had to to get through the videos).

While I wouldn't bother reading her diatribe in Godless, I take my hat off to Olofsson for doing so and having such a way of dealing with it.

Sigh, if only I could keep my cool and respond in parody, as he does, In fact if we all could, it would have a wonderfully salutary effect.

Except for the thick-as-2-planks people who understand little in their own right let alone anyone else's rabid right.

I sometimes wonder how long the Republicans will allow her to be their public voice on talk back TV and radio. Ahem, not good PR to have a screaming banshee spewing vituperative bile in public spaces. However, they may see her as strong, committed and pushing their cause to the elections next year.

Makes you think, doesn't it. Well done Olofsson! Thoroughly enjoyable review.

Cheers
V

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16. Comment #30800 by Tim Marsh on April 9, 2007 at 10:09 pm

 avatarIncredulity has always been my favorite response to the outstandingly poorly reasoned. It's a testiment to the observation that 'the reality of dogmatic thought often exceeds our capacity to parody it'.

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17. Comment #30801 by WilliamP on April 9, 2007 at 10:10 pm

The article was good, but I bet this will show up on the back cover of the next updated edition of "Godless":

"Coulter has very cleverly written a... criticism of evolution... And it was brilliant." -Peter Olofsson, PhD in mathematical statistics of Göteborg University


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18. Comment #30812 by gesswatt on April 10, 2007 at 1:02 am

There seem to be two debates happening. One in which religious morons spout off their murderous rant to little avail.
oR another where somewhat self-satisfied athiests lament the ignorance of the average (ouch).
If ever the twain should be both be involved like ? will they really get literally burnt at the snake for obfuscation?? :)

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19. Comment #30813 by RascoHeldall on April 10, 2007 at 1:06 am

I'd put money on it, William P. It would be similar to the way creationists STILL use that clip of Richard to give the impression he didn't know the answer to a question (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g), even though it has been a matter of public record for almost a decade that this was not the case.

Perhaps, one day, this sort of psychopathic behaviour on the part of reality-deniers will be viewed as mental illness and treated accordingly.

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20. Comment #30814 by Logicel on April 10, 2007 at 1:10 am

 avatarYup, WilliamP, I would be crushingly disappointed if Coulter failed to take Olofsson satirical review of her book out of context and use it to her financial benefit. My little Annie would be slipping then, and I can't have that.

Coulter gave away her 'power' when she admitted she likes to shock and get a rise out of her audience. So the best response is to be bored by her. And I am.

Above article is both a totally enjoyable satire and a very informative piece at the same time. Very clever.

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21. Comment #30815 by bouwe on April 10, 2007 at 1:27 am

This article is an absolute bloody ripper! I only hope it could receive a wider readership, getting re-published in some newspapers. Of course, anyone moronic enough to have taken her seriously would not benefit from it. It is WAY over their heads...they are still crawling on the floor, dribbling and eating their play-dough.

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22. Comment #30819 by stephenray on April 10, 2007 at 1:57 am

Responding to Comment #30798 by crazy4blues:

Johnny Winter is a recovering albino?!!

That's great. He'll save a fortune in sunglasses...

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23. Comment #30841 by nickthelight on April 10, 2007 at 3:53 am

 avatarHitler was Austrian, not German.

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24. Comment #30844 by enzogiovanni on April 10, 2007 at 3:58 am

 avatarwho the heck cares about Coulter anyway?
Ask any European who she is and 99.99% would have no answer.
let her be..

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25. Comment #30852 by Eureka Step on April 10, 2007 at 4:27 am

 avatarBrilliant article.

I love it!

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26. Comment #30856 by macronencer on April 10, 2007 at 4:50 am

 avatarThanks for the laugh! Really enjoyed this clever piece of satire.

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27. Comment #30865 by Graeme on April 10, 2007 at 5:55 am

Excellent article...
and you're right enzogiovanni. I'd never heard of her before...(and hope never to hear from her again!)

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28. Comment #30869 by oskorei on April 10, 2007 at 7:30 am

 avatarI've been thinking that Coulter's arguments must have been satirical for a long time...Not to boast, but I attempted to say so back in June, although, admittedly, I was much less articulate at that than Olofsson. I admire his attempt: it is very difficult to remain level-headed and try to be logical when faced by such garbage.

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29. Comment #31027 by phasmagigas on April 10, 2007 at 5:14 pm

 avatarthe antievolution parody that is so easy to play probably isnt a good thing as its not really honest but does prove a good point. You can easily pretend to be a creationist and get pats on the back but to be a fake evolutionist takes a bit more thought, and if indeed you can actually explain evolution theres a good chance you will accept it anyway!!(when a creationist brings up evo and challenges it i first play dumb and then ask them 'so what do you mean by evolution?' and lo and behold the VAST majority dont have a clue, but of course that would be like me expecting the average person to explain some highschool stuff like the haber process and rates of reaction, funny how most people are 'experts' in evolutionary science enough to be able to dismiss it but struggle to understand food nutrition information labels for eg.

I recenty posted on youtube (silly me) a sarcastic remark (justifiable in this case) about design, I got a nasty aggressive reply which I felt was interesting as had I said the exact same thing as a creationist and non sarcastically the insulter would probably have felt my words quite reasonable.

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30. Comment #31053 by Arcados on April 10, 2007 at 7:56 pm

This article is fantastic. My greatest fear as an anthropology undergraduate is that if/when I find a job outside of academia, my interviewer will dismiss me as an "evolutionist."

Satire in the press such as this reveals just how silly people like Coulter are.

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31. Comment #31070 by gerritvb on April 10, 2007 at 9:55 pm

Maybe Ann Coulter really is just playing a role, like a character actor, and she's playing it harder and harder, just waiting for someone to call her out! When someone does, she'll sigh, "Finally! I was so tired of being hateful, but you were all so crazy that you believed that someone could really be that way."

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32. Comment #31112 by stephenray on April 11, 2007 at 3:27 am

Just been reading Coulter's biog on wikipedia.

You know what's astonishing? She appears to have been a top law student and highly regarded lawyer. And yet her political, social and scientific babblings show that she has no idea how to actually *think*. You know, identify the correct data and analyse it in order to produce useful information.

Did she go to a crap law school? No, that won't work, she clerked for a senior judge. Boy he must have wondered when he read her briefs, if she was as accurate and painstaking then as she is now. The *average* law students of my erstwhile acquaintance could out-think her, never mind the smart ones.

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33. Comment #31133 by padster1976 on April 11, 2007 at 5:24 am

 avatarThe 'Coultergeist' - coined by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is a regular on Media Matters. Indeed, his summary of 'Godless' is quite catchy -

"the complexity [of evolution] is why fake authors with fake ideas can still peddle their crap"

Excellent.

Other Coultergeist gems...

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'"

But really, the only way to defeat these people is to ignore them. Feet voting etc.

Just confront those that publish her.

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34. Comment #31219 by Pallinn on April 11, 2007 at 3:00 pm

 avatarWeeell... If you take the time to do a bit of research on Ann Coulter as I did (and no, I have no idea why the hell I did), the common opinion of people around her seems to be that she's mostly f***ing with us.

Now there is little doubt that she believes the core of what she's saying but all the flourishes, all the REALLY insane and shocking thing's are almost certainly an attempt to be funny (and to sell books).

I have to admit that even as a liberal lefty (with severe capitalist tendencies) she does make me chuckle every now and then. I still think she's certifiable but I'm not so sure she deserves my hatred anymore.

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35. Comment #31229 by sent2null on April 11, 2007 at 4:07 pm

 avatarHilarious, a satire of a piece of writing from a far far right wing demagogue who likes to think herself witty for her use of sophomoric puns and ad hominem attacks to make her points. I particularly like how you called her "brilliant", that was really funny! I am only annoyed that it took me 2 lines in to realize you were making fun of her!

Brilliant!

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36. Comment #31269 by Zaphod on April 11, 2007 at 8:03 pm

 avatarGreat article.

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37. Comment #31391 by moynihan on April 12, 2007 at 9:36 am

I find the continued use of Nazism as an example of atheism to be tiresome.
There is a fair amount of scholarly work about the influences of late 19th century "thought" in Ariosophy, Theosophy, and obscure areas of 19th century "germanic mysticism", on the generally incoherent set of ideas called "nazism". It was hardly scientific. They in fact rejected Darwin, and embraced Lamarck, (as did Stalinist Russia if I remember correctly), since i assume, it fit better with a telelogical world view. Nazism was a rather negative "new age" thing, philosophically, (for lack of a better term).

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38. Comment #32021 by Kleis on April 15, 2007 at 9:04 am

Coulter is too blunt an instrument of the fundie right to be capable of this kind of subtle instruction.

However, brilliant parody of her stuff.

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