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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Vote for the Time 100 - Are They Worthy?

by Time Magazine

Reposted from:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100walkup/article/0,28804,1611030_1612457,00.html

Who do you think should be on this year's list of TIME's most influential people? Read through the profiles of the 200 candidates and rate your top choices. Then check out the list below to see the full results.

(Richard is on the list, currently at #10)

CLICK HERE TO VOTE

richardRICHARD DAWKINS

AGE: 66

OCCUPATION: Evolutionist, author, Oxford University professor

NUMBER OF TIME COVERS: 0

PREVIOUS APPEARANCES ON THE TIME 100: 0

PRO: Adamant rationalist and prolific writer who holds a deeply gene-centered view of evolution and firm evolutionist's view of life. Dawkins has most recently spiced up the debate between believers and atheists with his unequivocally titled, bestselling book The God Delusion.

CON: Dawkins sometimes seems religious about his atheism. (In any case, debates about deities rarely change minds.) Some critics also feel that he misapplies the framework of evolutionary theory to phenomena — such as ideas and culture — that don't entirely fit the mold.

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1. Comment #34581 by Pentecost on April 24, 2007 at 3:08 pm

 avatarSmile for the camera? Latigra? Blue Steel? Anything but rational curmudgeon.

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2. Comment #34583 by flyingscot on April 24, 2007 at 3:09 pm

 avatarJust cast my vote for Richard, do hope he wins.

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3. Comment #34587 by LB on April 24, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Scrap Blue Steel, the prof should've worn a Magnum for an occasion such as this

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4. Comment #34588 by wilberforce.parry on April 24, 2007 at 3:26 pm

Come on Richard, work that camera for me baby! Yes! YES! I'm feelin' it! Show that Moss bird how it's done!

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5. Comment #34589 by Tony B. on April 24, 2007 at 3:27 pm

There is no doubt whatsoever that RD belongs in the Time 100. Even if we put aside what he has meant to atheists and rationality in general, his status as a preeminent man of science alone warrants inclusion. Carl Sagan would be proud of how RD has continued his work at making the beauty and majesty of the natural world/universe accessible to all. Even (and especially) to uneducated, blue-collar joes like me.

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6. Comment #34591 by simplicio on April 24, 2007 at 3:31 pm

done. A 100 rating for inspiring atheists to be more bold and for getting a discussion going about religious faith that we need to have.

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7. Comment #34592 by rzza on April 24, 2007 at 3:34 pm

It's 'Le Tigre'. Ferrari would have been good too.. Magnum a bit too much.

I wouldn't hang that shot on Dawkins. This a photo editor's work. Undoutedly, the photographer's contact sheet had some friendlier expressions to choose from.

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8. Comment #34596 by Russell Blackford on April 24, 2007 at 3:54 pm

Ugh, the comments above are correct. Smile, Professor Dawkins.

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9. Comment #34597 by Devolution on April 24, 2007 at 4:00 pm

 avatarLove the Zoolander shouts :) I also agree on the photo, why not use the photo from TGD? Or hell even the cartoon version from South Park is an improvement.

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10. Comment #34598 by BillySands on April 24, 2007 at 4:04 pm

 avatarInteresting the pope is so far down the list and Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley appear as a couple (of fannies!)

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11. Comment #34600 by BMMcArdle on April 24, 2007 at 4:07 pm

Thinking of most portraits of serious people throughout history, there's not a lot of smiling or grinning.

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12. Comment #34603 by MIND_REBEL on April 24, 2007 at 4:14 pm

 avatarProf Dawkins will win.

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13. Comment #34605 by Pallinn on April 24, 2007 at 4:19 pm

 avatarI have to admit I much prefer Colbert winning than the Korean singer "Rain" who had a commanding lead yesterday =) But if Dawkins is to have a chance, this link needs to be spread to more atheist site methinks...

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14. Comment #34607 by Bremas on April 24, 2007 at 4:42 pm

Colbert will take this. The Colbert nation will make sure that Rain (who?) doesn't.

Was going to make a comment about the picture, but those before me have done a much more poetic job.

My vote is in.

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15. Comment #34609 by Bremas on April 24, 2007 at 4:48 pm

Roughly 4000 votes. If we are all submitting 100s, that would mean about 1000 bible thumpers are throwing out 0s.

You would think the Colbert nation would throw some our way, but they don't seem to be helping Jon Stewart that much either.

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16. Comment #34614 by mmurray on April 24, 2007 at 5:26 pm

 avatar

It would be hard to imagine Rowling having influenced anything more than bank accounts unless there's a "personal fantasy" category that is significant in the course of human development.

She must have done more to get kids reading books in the last ten years than anyone else. Before her the sight of a ten year old sitting reading a 400 page book would have been pretty unusual.

She has also done her bit to annoy the fundies. Probably not deliberately.

Michael

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17. Comment #34615 by blods on April 24, 2007 at 5:33 pm

 avatarI was happily voting on the Times site - happy because the first 30 or so I clicked on had Dawkins in the lead by a good margin. But once I came across Angelina Jolie who was 85 to Dawkins 75 I lost all interest in this as a serious survey.

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18. Comment #34616 by js5535 on April 24, 2007 at 5:38 pm

 avatarIt really is depressing to see an inconsequential hockey player at number 4. Well at least Paris Hilton is at the bottom!

All the best to Dawkins!

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19. Comment #34625 by Russell Blackford on April 24, 2007 at 6:10 pm

^I dislike George W. Bush, but it's rather odd seeing him trailing behind various athletes and entertainers of little real consequence. Meh.

I also find the pros and cons rather odd. Often the "con" is a basis for possible criticism (from some viewpoint or other) but has nothing to do with how influential the person is. Take - as one that I randomly noticed - Phillip Rosedale. How does the fact that Second Life contains sex and gambling make him less influential, as opposed to more likely to annoy wowsers and puritans?

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20. Comment #34628 by Bob Russell on April 24, 2007 at 6:16 pm

Comment #34616 by js5535 on April 24, 2007 at 5:38 pm

It really is depressing to see an inconsequential hockey player at number 4.

Must be the Canadian vote that puts a hockey player on the list! :-)

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21. Comment #34629 by Yorker on April 24, 2007 at 6:19 pm

18. Comment #34615 by blods

What is that creature Blods, a "horstrich"?

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22. Comment #34632 by Bremas on April 24, 2007 at 6:27 pm

Nice job, that's about 400 more votes in the last hour.

Like 6000 more for Colbert. I think someone has his automated.

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23. Comment #34633 by Canuck#1 on April 24, 2007 at 6:29 pm

 avatarHOW CAN IT POSSIBLY MATTER THAT RICHARD IS FIRST OR EVEN THAT HE IS ON THE LIST. IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT TO ME AND I WOULD THINK RICHARD MIGHT FEEL THE SAME WAY, BUT MAYBE NOT ..... TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER NAMES THERE. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SAY YOU BEAT OUT BARRY BONDS et al... I know how Richard has affected me and I'll live with that. He is #1 for me.

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24. Comment #34636 by atheisticism on April 24, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Why is everyone acting like this is some kind of "good person" contest? George W Bush is by far the most influential person for the past 5 years. His decisions and policies have influenced almost every person in the world. Millions of people have been drastically influenced {negatively} by this dishonest, idiotic war criminal

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25. Comment #34638 by Bremas on April 24, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Canuck#1 (24)
For my money it matters for publicity.
Most people in the US have never heard of him, and I mean most. I majored in geology and didn't know who he was until there was an article about him in Discover magazine a few years ago.

And yes, this time thing is a popularity contest.

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26. Comment #34641 by Zaphod on April 24, 2007 at 6:43 pm

 avatarPeople love the satire. Colbert has this sewn up.

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27. Comment #34643 by amazeen on April 24, 2007 at 6:45 pm

 avatarahh.. not a flattering picture

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28. Comment #34644 by James Carroll on April 24, 2007 at 6:49 pm

I'll sit here and vote 100 for Dawkins for hours if that's what it takes.

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29. Comment #34645 by Bremas on April 24, 2007 at 6:52 pm

For shits and grins, I just voted 5 times in a row. It looks like they all took.

I say stuff the ballot. Yea, I know, it might seem a bit beneath us.....but

edit. James Carroll you beat me to it.

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30. Comment #34649 by Veronique on April 24, 2007 at 7:00 pm

 avatarYorker

Thanks for asking Blods what that is. I find I cannot bear looking at it and scroll through quickly.

Please Blods, if it were a caricature, it would be better, but it looks so deformed and unhappy with only two legs and a fore-shortened body.:-)

I have voted. I cannot believe the list. I thought it was about influential. Give me a break, some of those on the list are total tossers (another one of those words, Yorker:-)

Cheers
V

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31. Comment #34650 by Norseman on April 24, 2007 at 7:06 pm

"It really is depressing to see an inconsequential hockey player at number 4."

Crosby is the youngest player and the only teenager ever to win a scoring title in any major sports league.

Not only a major sports league, but the hardest sport on earth!

I think that speaks for itself. Crosby is a phenomenon, he deserves to be on this list 10 times more than Colbert.

And I'm not Canadian but European.

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32. Comment #34655 by carlptr on April 24, 2007 at 7:58 pm

With Colbert that far in front this can't be taken seriously. Anyway, it's a good indication of where Americans get their information from.
God save the American Taliban.

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33. Comment #34658 by js5535 on April 24, 2007 at 8:10 pm

 avatarComment #34628 by Bob Russell on April 24, 2007 at 6:16 pm

Yes I get sick of the rabid hockey fanaticism up here. Most people put hockey light-years ahead of any intellectual pursuit. The sterotypes of Canadians are sadly often correct.

32. Comment #34650 by Norseman on April 24, 2007 at 7:06 pm

In <15 years he will be retired and forgotten, without influence on anything significant.

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34. Comment #34668 by PeterK on April 24, 2007 at 8:54 pm

I like Sid the Kid.

I like Richard Dawkins.

Somehow, I just didn't think anyone would compare
one to the other.

Kinda like comparing John Lennon with Neil Armstrong.

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35. Comment #34669 by Goodwithwood on April 24, 2007 at 9:06 pm

 avatarRationalists seem to be out numbered by those that think this is a popularity survey. It is about the most influential people regardless of how negatively disgusting that person may be. This is why GW rates so low yet he has influenced the entire planet greatly. Just because it is a negative influence doesn't make it less so. The results are irrelevant to influence, but I'm glade to see Dawkins up there in a popularity survey.

GWW

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36. Comment #34670 by Satanburiedfossils on April 24, 2007 at 9:09 pm

 avatarI'm puzzled as to why Jesus isn't on that list. Xtians have been telling us virtually every millisecond for the past 2,000 years that he's "returning soon". Perhaps if Jesus could manage to show up before the deadline, he might even make the cover! (Though I'm afraid he may fall behind Keifer Sutherland; he's performed more miracles in one day than Jesus ever did in his entire lifetime.)

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37. Comment #34673 by DNAtheist on April 24, 2007 at 9:23 pm

 avatarYou know if every person who voted 100 for Richard also voted 1 for all of the people ahead of him he would move up considerably faster in terms of average score.

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38. Comment #34674 by Satanburiedfossils on April 24, 2007 at 9:35 pm

 avatarThe article forgot one thing:

HOBBIES: Tying hapless damsels to railroad tracks while twirling his handlebar mustache and tittering menacingly.

(For the humor-deficient, I'm being sarcastic: you see, religionists, being unable to dispute Dawkins' sound arguments against religious belief, turn to vilifying him instead. Suffice it to say, their only recourse is through the print media and the public airwaves, as nowadays using thumbscrews on people who disagree with you is considered very unsporting.)

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39. Comment #34679 by atheist_peace on April 24, 2007 at 10:14 pm

 avatarHow can Muhammad Yunus only have 550 votes? Where are American's priorities? Helping the poor or helping some asshole from American Idol (Sanjaya).

If everyone here gives Richard ten 100's, and everyone above him ten 0's, then we can probably bring him into the top 10.

Who the fuck is "Rain"?

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40. Comment #34682 by atheist_peace on April 24, 2007 at 10:25 pm

 avatarAlso, see Richard on The O'Reilly Factor:

http://www.atheistnation.net/video/?video/00351

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41. Comment #34683 by Roy_H on April 24, 2007 at 10:29 pm

 avatarCan I vote for the above been the worst picture of Richard Dawkins ever published?

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42. Comment #34694 by Corylus on April 25, 2007 at 12:18 am

 avatarInteresting list. I was feeling a bit ashamed of myself for not knowing some of them, but maybe that's a good thing.

At the moment I see RD is squeezed in between Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Smile, RD! There are lots of people that would pay a great deal of money for that ;)

Sorry... lowering the tone!

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43. Comment #34700 by Robert Maynard on April 25, 2007 at 12:36 am

 avatarAlthough I can't be sure if stuffing the ballot won't work, it would be fairly easy to filter it out at the SQL level by logging IP addresses, right?
Also, the average rating thing is more than likely weighted to give less power to extreme votes like "100" or "1".
Again, I can't say for sure, but you'd think they'd do that..

Then again, you'd also think they'd have a less awkward system than asking voters to quantify influence on more than a 5-point or 7-point scale..

I hope they use a happier photo.

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44. Comment #34721 by Holy Roller on April 25, 2007 at 2:02 am

 avatarIt's hard to believe that Bill Maher is not on this list. He is light years ahead of most and his humour is a joy.

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45. Comment #34728 by Sargeist on April 25, 2007 at 2:35 am

 avatarWeeeelllll,

Much as I really love Richard's books and agree to the highest degree with his godlessness and his scorn for all goddist things... I gave Al Gore a higher rating of 80 compared to my rating of 75 for the Prof. Yes, sorry sorry, but I just felt that the influence Al Gore has had on world opinion is higher than that of our man the Prof.

I agree with Goodwithgood in this respect (although he may well disagree with my interpretation) - there was once a list put together of the most influential military leaders, and a lot of noise was generated by the inclusion of Hitler. Simply because when many people read the word "influential" they imagined it meant "did lots of good stuff". What? They've never heard of "he's a bad influence"?

I don't know who the most influential on that list of 200 is, but I like Dawkins and Gore, so I voted for them.

Did anyone else look at the Prof's picture and think "For relaxing times, make it Santori time"?

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46. Comment #34738 by kwhitefoot on April 25, 2007 at 3:23 am

 avatarDon't vote it only encourages specious comparisons. Besides I'm pretty sure that most will vote not for the most influential but instead either for the one they want to be most influential or the one whose music or 'acting' they like most.

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47. Comment #34741 by Mikado on April 25, 2007 at 3:41 am

I shall certainly not vote for anyone in Time Magazines silliest feature of the year. Sorry RD.

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48. Comment #34742 by Rtambree on April 25, 2007 at 4:14 am

Paris Hilton and Richard Dawkins on the same list? 'nuff said.

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49. Comment #34747 by konquererz on April 25, 2007 at 5:22 am

 avatarWell, even if you don't care for the list, like I don't, you should still vote. Imagine what kind of people would look into Richard Dawkins and what he has written and said if he were on the cover of time magazine? Its the opportunity to get a huge exposure, just like the O'Reilly Factor.

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50. Comment #34751 by Mark R on April 25, 2007 at 5:40 am

 avatarI must say that seeing Hilton and RD on the same list is weird BUT this is a chance for more coverage in the mainstream. The whole purpose is to break down some walls and make people realize this is another opportunity. Awareness is just as important. We need more people to say "who's this Dawkins guy?" There still a lot of people in america benefit in life from finding out more about RDF and this unfotunately is a way of getting to a lot of them. Dawkins on the front page of time would be a good thing for Atheisism no matter who is on the list below. #11 at the moment it says at the top of this page......not bad i say. I have a feeling some Atheists make this a personal battle and not a united one. Are we not all in this together?

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