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Wednesday, April 25, 2007 | Reason : Science of Religion | print version Print | Comments

Document Jesus 'Love-Bombs' You

by Chris Hedges, Truthdig

Thanks to Tim DiChiara for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/jesus_love_bombs_you/

baptizeThere is a false, but effective, fiction that one has to be born again to be a Christian. The Christian right refuses to acknowledge the worth of anyone's religious experience unless—in the words of the tired and opaque cliché—one has accepted "Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior."

The meltdown, often skillfully manipulated by preachers and teams of evangelists, is one of the most pernicious tools of the movement. Through conversion one surrenders to a higher authority. And the higher authority, rather than God, is the preacher who steps in to take over your life. Being born again, and the process it entails, is more often about submission and the surrender of moral responsibility than genuine belief.

I attended a five-day seminar at Coral Ridge in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., where I was taught, often by D. James Kennedy, the techniques of conversion. The callousness of these techniques—targeting the vulnerable, building false friendships with the lonely or troubled, promising to relieve people of the most fundamental dreads of human existence from the fear of mortality to the numbing pain of grief—gave to the process an awful cruelty and dishonesty. I attended the seminar as part of the research for my book "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America." Kennedy openly called converts "recruits" and spoke about them joining a new political force sweeping across the country to reshape and reform America into a Christian state.

"I would always go in first, introduce myself, Jim Kennedy," he told us. "I'm checking the lay of the land and I will look around the living room and see if there's something there that I can comment about. Frequently, there will be a large picture somewhere and where did they put it, this picture ... why would they put it over the fireplace? Significant."

"In Fort Lauderdale you don't find too many fireplaces," he added, smiling, "but there's some kind of central focus. Maybe ... golf trophies ... I'm over here looking at these golf trophies ... painting ... I say… beautiful painting, did you paint that? The first rule about looking at trophies, don't touch them ... did you win all those trophies? So we have a little conversation about golf, but I know enough about golf to have this conversation ... now what have I done? I'm making a friend."

"Compliment them on whatever you can," Kennedy said, "discuss what they do, you're going to find out what are their hobbies, maybe right there in the living room. Then you're going to ask them about what they do, where they're from, how long they've been there ... something to discuss with them ... in doing this, you have made a friend."

We are told to "emphasize the positive" and "identify with your prospect." We are encouraged in the green "Evangelism Explosion" instruction manual to use sentences such as "It is wonderful to know when I lay my head on my pillow tonight that if I do not awaken in bed in the morning, I will awaken in paradise with God." We are told to paint graphic pictures of personal tragedy that God has helped solve, such as: "I had a Christian son killed in Vietnam, yet my heart is filled with peace because I know he has eternal life. Even though he was killed by an enemy mortar, he has a home now in heaven, and one day we'll be reunited there." We are instructed to pepper our testimonies with words like love, peace, faithfulness, forgiveness, hope, purpose and obedience and remember to talk about how we have found, in our own conversion, "courage in the face of death."

Kennedy warns us not to carry a large Bible, but to keep a small one hidden in our pocket, saying "don't show your gun until you're ready to shoot it."

The conversion, at first, is euphoric. It is about new, loving friends, about the conquering of human anxieties, fears and addictions, about attainment through God of wealth, power, success and happiness. For those who have known personal and economic despair, it feels like a new life, a new beginning. The new church friends repeatedly call them, invite them to dinner, listen to their troubles and answer their questions. Kennedy told us that we must keep in touch in the days after conversion. He encouraged us to keep detailed files on those we proselytize. We must be sure the converts are never left standing alone at church. We must care when no one else seems to care. The converts are assigned a "discipler" or prayer partner, a new friend, who is wiser than they are in the ways of the Lord and able to instruct them in their new life.

The intense interest by a group of three or four evangelists in a potential convert, an essential part of the conversion process, the flattery and feigned affection, the rapt attention to those being recruited and the flurry of "sincere" compliments are a form of "love bombing." It is the same technique employed by most cults, such as the Unification Church or "Moonies," to attract prospects. It was a well-developed tactic of the Russian and Chinese communist parties, which share many of the communal and repressive characteristics of the Christian right.

"Love bombing is a coordinated effort, usually under the direction of leadership, that involves long-term members flooding recruits and newer members with flattery, verbal seduction, affectionate but usually nonsexual touching, and lots of attention to their every remark," the psychiatrist Margaret Thaler Singer wrote. "Love bombing—or the offer of instant companionship—is a deceptive ploy accounting for many successful recruitment drives."

The convert is gradually drawn into a host of church activities by his or her new friends, leaving little time for outside socializing. But the warmth soon brings with it new rules. When you violate the rules, you sin, you flirt with rebellion, with becoming a "backslider," someone who was converted but has fallen and is once again on the wrong side of God. And as the new converts are increasingly invested in the church community, as they cut ties with their old community, it is harder to dismiss the mounting demands of the "discipler" and church leaders. The only proper relationship is submission to those above you, the abandonment of critical thought and the mouthing of thought-terminating clichés that are morally charged. "Jesus is my personal Lord and Savior" or "the wages of sin are death" is used to end all discussion.

Rules are incorporated slowly and deliberately into the convert's belief system. These include blind obedience to church leaders, the teaching of an exclusive, spiritual elitism that demonizes all other ways of being and believing, and a persecution complex that keeps followers mobilized and distrustful of outsiders. The result is the destruction of old communities, old friendships and the independent ability to make moral choices. Believers are soon encased in the church community. They are taught to emphasize personal experience rather than reasoning, and to reject the reality-based world. For those who defy the system, who walk away, there is a collective banishment.

There is a gradual establishment of new standards for every aspect of life. Those who choose spouses must choose Christian spouses. Families and friends are divided into groups of "saved" and "unsaved." The movement, while it purports to be about families, is the great divider of families, friends and communities. It competes with the family and those outside its structure for loyalty. It seeks to place itself above the family, either drawing all family members into its embrace or pushing those who resist aside. There were frequent prayers during the seminar I attended for relatives who were "unsaved," those who remained beyond the control of the movement. Many of these prayers, including one by a grandmother for her unsaved grandchildren, were filled with tears and wrenching pain over the damnation of those they loved.

The new ideology gives the believers a sense of purpose, feelings of superiority and a way to justify and sanctify their hatreds. For many, the rewards of cleaning up their lives, of repairing their damaged self-esteem, of joining an elite and blessed group are worth the cost of submission. They know how to define themselves. They do not have to make moral choice. It is made for them. They submerge their individual personas into the single persona of the Christian crowd. Their hope lies not in the real world, but in this new world of magic and miracles. For most, the conformity, the flight away from themselves, the dismissal of facts and logic, the destruction of personal autonomy, even with its latent totalitarianism, is a welcome and joyous relief. The flight into the arms of the religious right, into blind acceptance of a holy cause, compensates for the convert's despair and lack of faith in himself or herself. And the more corrupted and soiled the converts feel, the more profound their despair, the more militant they become, shouting, organizing and agitating to create a pure and sanctified Christian nation, a purity they believe will offset their own feelings of shame and guilt. Many want to be deceived and directed. It makes life easier to bear.

Freedom from fear, especially the fear of death, is what is being sold. It is a lie, as everyone has to know on some level, even while they write and rewrite their testimonies to conform to the instructors' demands. But admitting this in front of other believers is impossible. Such an admission would be interpreted as a lack of faith. And this too is part of the process, for it fosters a dread of being found out, a morbid guilt that we are not as good or as Christian as those around us. This dread does not go away with conversion or blind obedience or submission. This unachievable ideal forces the convert to repress and lose touch with the uncertainties, ambiguities and contradictions that make up human existence.

We were instructed to inform potential converts that Jesus came to Earth and died "to pay the penalty for our sins and to purchase a place in heaven for us" and that "to receive eternal life you must transfer your trust from yourself to Jesus Christ alone for eternal life." We were told to ask the convert if he or she is willing "to turn from what you have been doing that is not pleasing to Him and follow Him as He reveals His will to you in His Word." If the covert agrees to accept a new way of life we are to bow our heads and pray, with the convert repeating each line after us.

"Lord Jesus, I want You to come in and take over my life right now. I am a sinner. I have been trusting in myself and my own good works. But now I place my trust in You. I accept You as my own personal Savior. I believe you died for me. I receive You as Lord and Master of my life. Help me to turn from my sins and to follow You. I accept the free gift of eternal life. I am not worthy of it, but I thank You for it. Amen."

And when it is over the new believers are told "Welcome to the family of God." They are told to read a chapter a day in the Gospel of John and that they will be visited again in a week to talk about the Bible. They are encouraged to pray, because God "promised to hear and answer our prayers." They are told to find "a good Bible-believing church and become a part of it." They are told to join a Christian fellowship group. They are told to witness to those in their family. With this, the process of deconstructing an individual and building a submissive follower, one who no longer has any allegiance to the values of the open society, begins.

Chris Hedges, who graduated from seminary at Harvard Divinity School, is the author of "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America." He is a senior fellow at The Nation Institute and a Lannan Literary Fellow.

On May 22, Chris Hedges and Sam Harris will debate "Religion, Politics and the End of the World." Click here for details and tickets.

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1. Comment #34853 by Rtambree on April 25, 2007 at 1:08 pm

Another postcard from the asylum

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2. Comment #34860 by nogod42 on April 25, 2007 at 1:16 pm

This sounds like a description of some demented boot-camp. I especially like how they apply prayer to those that are "unsaved"...as if they're doing us some kind of favor.

Well, if Jesus was everyone's personal savior and so many bad things still happen to people in the world...Jesus is kind of an underachiever.

I'm glad I was never raised to believe in this nonsense. Truly glad...

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3. Comment #34875 by wolf1168 on April 25, 2007 at 1:40 pm

I think have seen this BS in action.

A couple of my (ex)friends were going to be an integral part of my wedding (secular) but over time, and since being invited they have drifted further and further away, saying they were busy with church etc...

Now with a sanctimonious shake of their heads they say that since "their lord is not invited" they won't make it.

Talk about crap, and the part that really Pi**** me off is that they feel a sense of superiority because I'm not Christian. If this is the teaching of their great teacher (you know, all that great love your neighbor stuff), not only can they shove it but "keep it too themselves" might be nice also. But such is not the way of elitists.

*sigh* As some other friends have said "weddings show you who your real friends are."

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4. Comment #34884 by lpetrich on April 25, 2007 at 2:03 pm

 avatarThat reminds me of RD's interview with Ted Haggard. After TH stated that he did not want his flock to be a bunch of personality cultists and yes-people.

After which we cut to TH asking his flock "What are we called to?"

"Obedience!" they all said.

Which makes me wonder if these fundies will now deny that they love-bomb.

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5. Comment #34886 by Devolution on April 25, 2007 at 2:05 pm

 avatarIf you want a great example of a Los Angeles based Christian group that follows this cult-like system of conversion, check this out

www.evtales.com

You will not believe some of the ridiculous things on this site.

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6. Comment #34889 by Quetzalcoatl on April 25, 2007 at 2:05 pm

 avatarFrightening. That's pretty much all you can say.

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7. Comment #34891 by flobear on April 25, 2007 at 2:10 pm

 avatarIt's weird. When I was reading this, it felt like I was reading a page out of my own history. When I entered my graduate program in engineering, the same exact situation occurred. Except that instead of giving me complements, my adviser gave me journal papers. Also, once I became a "member" of the student body, I didn't feel a sense of euphoria, rather, a deep sense of dread and hopelessness that I'd never graduate. Instead of going out and trying to convert the unfaithful into glorious engineers, we were encouraged to shun social contact and the outdoors in general. Oh yeah. Also, we were not allowed to use Iron Age books as references for our journal papers or presentations.

But other than those things, it was basically the same exact thing.

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8. Comment #34902 by Logicel on April 25, 2007 at 2:19 pm

 avatarflobear, thanks for that insightful comment. How can humanity encourage both individualism and social cohesion without giving up the one for the other?

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9. Comment #34906 by flobear on April 25, 2007 at 2:36 pm

 avatarDevolution,
www.evtales.com


Maybe I'm dense, but is this satire?

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10. Comment #34908 by mjwemdee on April 25, 2007 at 2:38 pm

 avatarComment #34889 by Quetzalcoatl

Ditto.

I have a sister who converted to born-again Christianity back in the 80's, round about the time I came out as gay. When she started to proslytize within the family, it soon became clear that she wasn't negotiable about her belief and I wasn't negotiable about my sexuality. I wonder if things had been otherwise, whether I would have been more vulnerable her kind of god-ridden poison? Hm....nah...as Lewis Black said: 'Problem is: I have THOUGHTS. And thoughts really screw up the faith thing....'

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11. Comment #34911 by Devolution on April 25, 2007 at 2:51 pm

 avatarNo flobear, sorry to say this is 100% real. I see these guys down at the Huntington Beach pier on a weekly basis. They are drones of Ray Comfort from Living Waters and his branch of evolution hating lunatics.

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12. Comment #34913 by Sapare Aude on April 25, 2007 at 3:02 pm

This reminds of a book I read entitled, The True Believer: Thoughts On The Nature of Mass Movements by Eric Hoffer. It examines both religious and non-religious mass movements; how they gain traction and who is likely to convert. From the book, this article, and stories I have heard about conversion, it would seem that people do not convert because they are convinced of the veracity of the proposed claims but because they have need to establish a new identity. I recommend that you all read the book so that you can gain an understanding of how people come to believe.

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13. Comment #34915 by Aaron SF on April 25, 2007 at 3:04 pm

 avatarEiighgh....

Friggin scary.

Again it's so nice to hear these familiar stories portrayed as they are and not as some "amazing miracle camp that brought me closer to god."

This one time at a friends church the pastor had everyone stand up and then told everyone who was not a christian to raise their hand. Then he told everyone to turn to the people next to them and ask them if they believed in Jesus.

Then he said if someone didn't (believe in Jesus) and was just too afraid to raise their hand, to ask them (and the hand raisers) if they wanted to accept Jesus as their personal savior.

Then he said if they didn't want to to ask if they would still like to be prayed for.

Then he told everyone to bow their heads (including the hand raisers) and repeat a prayer after him. "Dear jesus..." etc...

I was so pissed. I just kept my head up and glared at him, then I sat down just to make it clear that I wasn't participating.

How F(*$*ing manipulative. Why don't you just point a gun at someones head and say if they don't ask Jesus to become their lord and savior they will be shot on spot.

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14. Comment #34917 by jonecc on April 25, 2007 at 3:07 pm

It reminds me more than anything of pyramid selling. Once you've bought in to the franchise, you rise by bringing more schmucks under you.

The thing I wonder is, to what extent are the people at the top of the pyramid cynical about what they're doing? After the revelations about Ted Haggard I'd strongly suspect he was one of the charlatans (he struck me as highly insincere in the Richard Dawkins interview, even before all his sexual shenanigans came out), and I doubt the top bananas would be attacking global warming research unless big business was encouraging them to, but how many of the middle fry are simply love-bombing the vulnerable like they were love-bombed at a miserable time in their own lives?

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15. Comment #34924 by Isaiah on April 25, 2007 at 3:17 pm

I had to live through this crap also. Hedges describes the process perfectly...

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16. Comment #34925 by MIND_REBEL on April 25, 2007 at 3:17 pm

 avatarMind abuse.

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17. Comment #34966 by William on April 25, 2007 at 6:31 pm

"...don't show your gun until you're ready to shoot it."

What an apt metaphor! This Kennedy fellow has a touch of the poet about him.

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18. Comment #34967 by Lee Harrison on April 25, 2007 at 6:53 pm

 avatarDamn that's disgusting...

My wife went through crap like this in the Assemblies of God church in Australia. It was exceptionally difficult to get her out of there. She still hasn't left 'The Church' but I think that leaving those crackpots and becoming Lutheran is a baby-step in the right direction.

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19. Comment #34968 by eccles on April 25, 2007 at 6:57 pm

 avatarAmerica, or should it be called the United CHRISTIAN States of America, is SICK, sick from Christianity ruled by a brain dead President who is told what to do by looney preschers. What is wrong with the citizens that they get sucked in by this brainwashing by people who have never read the bible properly and do not know where the bible came from. It is only a bad plagiarism of Egyptian mythology.

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20. Comment #34970 by flyingscot on April 25, 2007 at 7:11 pm

 avatarAbsolutely frightening the way these people zero in on the vulnerable.
It never fails to amaze me that people fall for this kind of mindless madness.
You would think that the fraudulent behaviour of many of these evangelists would somehow alert these potential converts.
None so blind as those who don't want to see, I guess. 'Tis sad though.

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21. Comment #34972 by Harlon57 on April 25, 2007 at 7:18 pm

This was my post to the Truthdig site:

Before you were born, you did not exist.
After you die, you will not exist.
Get used to it.

I realize you have myths that make you feel better about death, but they are not true.

When you die, you cease to exist. That is all. You are no better than any other human that ever existed, and you get the same end as all other humans. Non-existence.

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22. Comment #34982 by cal_mertes on April 25, 2007 at 8:18 pm

The article is informative and distressing. It supports my opinion that these religions are gigantic cults as they follow the same practices. To put it simply, this is brain-washing.

And these converted are a great danger to our country.

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23. Comment #34988 by davyB on April 25, 2007 at 8:51 pm

Www.evtales.com asks the "million dollar question", "If you were to die today, would you go to Heaven or Hell?"

I hope one of them asks me someday - at the mall maybe. I'll say, "That's easy. The answer is no."

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24. Comment #34994 by arthursanford on April 25, 2007 at 9:27 pm

Reminds me of the time my then girlfriend and I decided to join a Baptist church-- a very Baptist church where followers pushed copies of Tim LaHaye and spoke the most solipsistic platitudes imaginable.

The minister came to her house to tell us about the church and what we must do to be Christian, and proceeded to name about forty things that I must-- must!-- do to be such. I think it was within a day after that I knew what I was getting into to: an anti-mind apocalyptic cult who wallow before a petulant otherworldy fascist, arrogant in their facile surety enough to tell me that these things I was told are beyond dispute.

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25. Comment #34999 by Lode Stone on April 25, 2007 at 10:23 pm

Live and learn... this sounds exactly like AMWAY business programming.

I never saw most of this type of programming in religion because I was raised in it, not converted.

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26. Comment #35005 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on April 25, 2007 at 11:14 pm

 avatarGreat article, really hits the nail on the head. My personaljourney bears many of the hallmarks of this kind of brainwashing.

What is truly deplorable, is the self directed nature of the enterprise. Evolving memes at work. Many in senior leadership are cynical, but 95% of church members are sincere. Victims, duped into giving time, money and effort to enrich some manipulative minister. Appalling.

The non converts among you may find this instructive. I'm working on a series (just me talking really) on my gradual path from belief to unbelief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE69fI53C0w

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27. Comment #35012 by Philip1978 on April 26, 2007 at 12:43 am

 avatarI find all this sickening to the core, its something I am so glad I have never had to go through and that my passage to Atheism was a very easy one.

I was about 9 years old, sitting in school assembly and wondered what would happen if I didn't pray with the rest of the school and soon learned that by not praying it didn't affect my world in the slightest. I simply thought it was all a bit ridiculous and nobody after that could ever convince me god was real. I think the best thing was that nobody, not even the teachers got in the slightest bit hacked off with me for not doing it and never pressured me to commit. Obviously at 9 years old I was not the well read and formidable atheist I am today (HA! Calm down Philip, delusions of grandeur don't suit you!) but at that age it simply meant nothing to me, I was more interested in Transformers comics!

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28. Comment #35038 by _J_ on April 26, 2007 at 4:03 am

 avatarYeah, I recognise this stuff from when I became a Christian, although the process at 'my' church was a good deal less in-your-face and unrelenting than what's described here. In Britain, the back door to apathy is never wholly barricaded. All quite different from the later process of becoming an atheist, though.

One minor point of dissent:

---'There is a false, but effective, fiction that one has to be born again to be a Christian.'---

Where could that 'fiction' come from? Surely not:

'John 3.3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.'

What Hedges is describing isn't some 'false, but effective, fiction' of extreme Christianity. It's just Christianity paying attention to its own text.

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29. Comment #35040 by _J_ on April 26, 2007 at 4:09 am

 avatar28. Comment #35026 by briancoughlanworldcitizen

Oh, thank you thank you thank you for that link. So simple, so perfect...

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30. Comment #35055 by bouwe on April 26, 2007 at 5:14 am

This article is incredible (at least to me). It is uncanny, every sentence rings true. I was born and raised in this shit, and he describes it to a tee. If only I had had the benefit of reading it in my teens I would have managed to extricate myself out of there sooner. I needed intellectual ammunition but couldn't get it anywhere.

As a child, I had no choice in the matter as I was "born into it", but witnessed the love bomb and its inevitable emotional shrapnel.

[quote]There were frequent prayers during the seminar I attended for relatives who were "unsaved," those who remained beyond the control of the movement. [/unquote]

(by the way, apologies if the quote/unquote appears in the text, something about my browser/old iMac may not allow it)

Regardless of how it appears, that quote really resonates with me right now. I KNOW they're all PRAYING for my "lost soul"...I am the one that "got away" and didn't EVER fall for the bullshit. Not even when I was an impressionable twelve year old. I still find it hard to believe I come from the same gene pool. I mean, we LOOK related, but I was blessed with a finely-attuned bullshit meter and theirs was non-existent. If it did exist, just re-read the article to learn how it is systematically destroyed.

The process so brilliantly dilineated and described in this article is almost identical in fundy churches in all parts of the world. My experience was in Australia and about 25 years ago. He is describing what is happening in America today. Nothing has changed! "Jesus is the same, yesterday, today and FOREVER"!!!!

If his book is as good as what I've read here, then it will be well worth getting. In fact, I know a few people for whom this article will ring a few church bells in their heads.

This guy has done a great job in this piece.

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31. Comment #35064 by coretemprising on April 26, 2007 at 5:46 am

to briancoughlanworldcitizen:

re the lawsuit, have you seen this:

http://www.luigicascioli.it/home_eng.php

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32. Comment #35065 by Luthien on April 26, 2007 at 5:46 am

 avatarI saw this type of thing going on at my University. They hoovered up all the kids who were socially "lost" because they didn't know anyone there, and had trouble making new friends. The best way to stop this from happening is to make that extra effort to get to know the "shy" people in your class, and give them a step up to getting to know as many other people as possible.

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33. Comment #35133 by maton100 on April 26, 2007 at 10:06 am

 avatarAdd this to my list of why hell is a much more preferential disposition.

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34. Comment #35134 by maton100 on April 26, 2007 at 10:07 am

 avatarSuper Gross.

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35. Comment #35146 by franciebrady on April 26, 2007 at 10:38 am

This article hits the nail on the head. I was raised Mormon and saw all this first-hand. I have a friend who is also "ex-Mormon" who had the unfortunate experience of spending two years as a Mormon missionary, and he said that one of the tactics employed by some (a minority, to be sure, but some) missionaries was to read the obituaries to find prospects. To any outside observer, this tactic is obviously targeting people who are grieving or otherwise emotionaly compromised, but these missionaries rationalize their tactics to themselves as offering "spiritual solace" to those most in need.

When I decided I was no longer Mormon, I was utterly cut off from my social support network. My girlfriend left me, my friends from church wouldn't talk to me, I could no longer attend school (I was enrolled at BYU at the time), my parents were chilly and angry at me, and my brother, with whom I was living at the time, forced me to move out because he said I "brought a bad spirit into his house." And I blamed myself. At the time, my convoluted thinking was "This is all my fault, everyone else I know can believe, there must be something wrong with ME." I was hospitalized that summer for a suicide attempt.

That was over ten years ago. I still feel the memory of that hurt today.

My most visceral objection to religion (among all my other objections, this being the most personal) is that, though it purports to "bring people together" and teaches people to "love one another", in truth religion manipulates people by witholding love, and micromanaging their interpersonal relationships, dictating not only "who" but "how" they are to love.

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36. Comment #35180 by Ivan The Not So Bad on April 26, 2007 at 1:40 pm

Paedophiles use similar techniques in a process known as "grooming". Using the same term for religious indoctrination would help bring it into disrepute - especially in the context of the religious schools and the drawing in of the young.

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37. Comment #35184 by Underworld on April 26, 2007 at 1:58 pm

 avatar36. Comment #35180 by Ivan The Not So Bad

Exactly - there's no difference in the kind of underhand techniques used.

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38. Comment #35433 by Ian M on April 27, 2007 at 6:21 am

"When I entered my graduate program in engineering, the same exact situation occurred"

"flobear, thanks for that insightful comment"

I second.

I've just finished the book you need to read - Jeff Schmidt's 'Disciplined Minds: A Critical Look at Salaried Professionals and the Soul-Battering System That Shapes Their Lives'. He entertainingly and illuminatingly compares graduate programs (his experience is in physics, but it's more or less the same across the board) to methods of cult indoctrination and finds methods of resistance in army training manuals for surviving POW camps.

"How can humanity encourage both individualism and social cohesion without giving up the one for the other?"

Schmidt argues that professional training selects heavily against the kind of individualism that isn't supportive of the status quo. In other words, people with a progressive agenda have to fight hard and organise amongst themselves in order to keep their values intact and working towards concrete goals within the wider system of indoctrination.

More info here:

http://disciplinedminds.tripod.com/

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39. Comment #35439 by Ole on April 27, 2007 at 6:41 am

 avatarIt is a good thing that we have people like Chris Hedges, who take the time to expose these type of brainwashing systems!

There are a lot of "Jim Kennedys" who is out there doing their ugly business!

Ole

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