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Wednesday, April 25, 2007 | Reason : Science of Religion | print version Print | Comments

Document Fighting Words: A wartime lexicon

by Christopher Hitchens, Slate

Thanks to Richard Prins for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.slate.com/id/2165033/entry/0/

This week Slate is publishing three excerpts from Christopher Hitchens' new book, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.

hitchens god is not great

There are four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum of servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking.

I do not think it is arrogant of me to claim that I had already discovered these four objections (as well as noticed the more vulgar and obvious fact that religion is used by those in temporal charge to invest themselves with authority) before my boyish voice had broken. I am morally certain that millions of other people came to very similar conclusions in very much the same way, and I have since met such people in hundreds of places, and in dozens of different countries. Many of them never believed, and many of them abandoned faith after a difficult struggle. Some of them had blinding moments of un-conviction that were every bit as instantaneous, though perhaps less epileptic and apocalyptic (and later more rationally and more morally justified) than Saul of Tarsus on the Damascene road. And here is the point, about myself and my co-thinkers. Our belief is not a belief. Our principles are not a faith. We do not rely solely upon science and reason, because these are necessary rather than sufficient factors, but we distrust anything that contradicts science or outrages reason. We may differ on many things, but what we respect is free inquiry, openmindedness, and the pursuit of ideas for their own sake. We do not hold our convictions dogmatically: the disagreement between Professor Stephen Jay Gould and Professor Richard Dawkins, concerning "punctuated evolution" and the unfilled gaps in post-Darwinian theory, is quite wide as well as quite deep, but we shall resolve it by evidence and reasoning and not by mutual excommunication. (My own annoyance at Professor Dawkins and Daniel Dennett, for their cringe-making proposal that atheists should conceitedly nominate themselves to be called "brights," is a part of a continuous argument.) We are not immune to the lure of wonder and mystery and awe: we have music and art and literature, and find that the serious ethical dilemmas are better handled by Shakespeare and Tolstoy and Schiller and Dostoyevsky and George Eliot than in the mythical morality tales of the holy books. Literature, not scripture, sustains the mind and—since there is no other metaphor—also the soul. We do not believe in heaven or hell, yet no statistic will ever find that without these blandishments and threats we commit more crimes of greed or violence than the faithful. (In fact, if a proper statistical inquiry could ever be made, I am sure the evidence would be the other way.) We are reconciled to living only once, except through our children, for whom we are perfectly happy to notice that we must make way, and room. We speculate that it is at least possible that, once people accepted the fact of their short and struggling lives, they might behave better toward each other and not worse. We believe with certainty that an ethical life can be lived without religion. And we know for a fact that the corollary holds true—that religion has caused innumerable people not just to conduct themselves no better than others, but to award themselves permission to behave in ways that would make a brothel-keeper or an ethnic cleanser raise an eyebrow.

Most important of all, perhaps, we infidels do not need any machinery of reinforcement. We are those who Blaise Pascal took into account when he wrote to the one who says, "I am so made that I cannot believe."

There is no need for us to gather every day, or every seven days, or on any high and auspicious day, to proclaim our rectitude or to grovel and wallow in our unworthiness. We atheists do not require any priests, or any hierarchy above them, to police our doctrine. Sacrifices and ceremonies are abhorrent to us, as are relics and the worship of any images or objects (even including objects in the form of one of man's most useful innovations: the bound book). To us no spot on earth is or could be "holier" than another: to the ostentatious absurdity of the pilgrimage, or the plain horror of killing civilians in the name of some sacred wall or cave or shrine or rock, we can counterpose a leisurely or urgent walk from one side of the library or the gallery to another, or to lunch with an agreeable friend, in pursuit of truth or beauty. Some of these excursions to the bookshelf or the lunch or the gallery will obviously, if they are serious, bring us into contact with belief and believers, from the great devotional painters and composers to the works of Augustine, Aquinas, Maimonides, and Newman. These mighty scholars may have written many evil things or many foolish things, and been laughably ignorant of the germ theory of disease or the place of the terrestrial globe in the solar system, let alone the universe, and this is the plain reason why there are no more of them today, and why there will be no more of them tomorrow. Religion spoke its last intelligible or noble or inspiring words a long time ago: either that or it mutated into an admirable but nebulous humanism, as did, say, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a brave Lutheran pastor hanged by the Nazis for his refusal to collude with them. We shall have no more prophets or sages from the ancient quarter, which is why the devotions of today are only the echoing repetitions of yesterday, sometimes ratcheted up to screaming point so as to ward off the terrible emptiness.

While some religious apology is magnificent in its limited way—one might cite Pascal—and some of it is dreary and absurd—here one cannot avoid naming C. S. Lewis—both styles have something in common, namely the appalling load of strain that they have to bear. How much effort it takes to affirm the incredible! The Aztecs had to tear open a human chest cavity every day just to make sure that the sun would rise. Monotheists are supposed to pester their deity more times than that, perhaps, lest he be deaf. How much vanity must be concealed—not too effectively at that—in order to pretend that one is the personal object of a divine plan? How much self-respect must be sacrificed in order that one may squirm continually in an awareness of one's own sin? How many needless assumptions must be made, and how much contortion is required, to receive every new insight of science and manipulate it so as to "fit" with the revealed words of ancient man-made deities? How many saints and miracles and councils and conclaves are required in order first to be able to establish a dogma and then—after infinite pain and loss and absurdity and cruelty—to be forced to rescind one of those dogmas? God did not create man in his own image. Evidently, it was the other way about, which is the painless explanation for the profusion of gods and religions, and the fratricide both between and among faiths, that we see all about us and that has so retarded the development of civilization.

The mildest criticism of religion is also the most radical and the most devastating one. Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did. Still less can they hope to tell us the "meaning" of later discoveries and developments which were, when they began, either obstructed by their religions or denounced by them. And yet—the believers still claim to know! Not just to know, but to know everything. Not just to know that god exists, and that he created and supervised the whole enterprise, but also to know what "he" demands of us—from our diet to our observances to our sexual morality. In other words, in a vast and complicated discussion where we know more and more about less and less, yet can still hope for some enlightenment as we proceed, one faction—itself composed of mutually warring factions—has the sheer arrogance to tell us that we already have all the essential information we need. Such stupidity, combined with such pride, should be enough on its own to exclude "belief" from the debate. The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species. It may be a long farewell, but it has begun and, like all farewells, should not be protracted.

The argument with faith is the foundation and origin of all arguments, because it is the beginning—but not the end—of all arguments about philosophy, science, history, and human nature. It is also the beginning—but by no means the end—of all disputes about the good life and the just city. Religious faith is, precisely because we are still-evolving creatures, ineradicable. It will never die out, or at least not until we get over our fear of death, and of the dark, and of the unknown, and of each other. For this reason, I would not prohibit it even if I thought I could. Very generous of me, you may say. But will the religious grant me the same indulgence? I ask because there is a real and serious difference between me and my religious friends, and the real and serious friends are sufficiently honest to admit it. I would be quite content to go to their children's bar mitzvahs, to marvel at their Gothic cathedrals, to "respect" their belief that the Koran was dictated, though exclusively in Arabic, to an illiterate merchant, or to interest myself in Wicca and Hindu and Jain consolations. And as it happens, I will continue to do this without insisting on the polite reciprocal condition—which is that they in turn leave me alone. But this, religion is ultimately incapable of doing. As I write these words, and as you read them, people of faith are in their different ways planning your and my destruction, and the destruction of all the hard-won human attainments that I have touched upon. Religion poisons everything.

ALSO READ: 'Was Muhammad Epileptic?' (from 'God is Not Great')

AND: 'Mormonism: A Racket Becomes a Religion' (from 'God is Not Great')

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1. Comment #34920 by mjwemdee on April 25, 2007 at 3:10 pm

 avatarWow. That's it. I'm buying the book.

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2. Comment #34922 by MIND_REBEL on April 25, 2007 at 3:13 pm

 avatarPowerful, yet brillant prose. It's wonderful that Hitchens has come out in support of reason and logic.

Religion is the most evil force in the history of the world. It's like an evil tree supporting the branches of racism, sexism, blind faith, anti-scientific bigotry, sectarianism, and truth warriors like Hitchens are chopping it down using only the erudite powers of thier mind. When the tree of religion has fallen perhaps, if we try, mankind will finally live in peace and harmony.

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3. Comment #34929 by krypto on April 25, 2007 at 3:31 pm

 avatarThe man can write. I hope the reviews aren't just "he supported the war, so why should I listen to anything he says?"

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4. Comment #34933 by chauvinj on April 25, 2007 at 3:47 pm

I may not agree with his supporting of the war, but that is an entirely seperate argument. With this one however, he is spot on --not to mention utterly cogent.

Can't wait to get my hands on this book. Anyone know how long it is?

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5. Comment #34942 by Jolly Bloger on April 25, 2007 at 4:15 pm

 avatarThis is certainly one of the best written articles I have read on the topic. I first saw Hitchens on Bullshit! talking about mother Teresa and he was great there as well. I'm getting his book.

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6. Comment #34951 by flyingscot on April 25, 2007 at 4:54 pm

 avatarExcellent! Could not have put it better myself!
Looking forward to reading this book.

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7. Comment #34954 by hightrekker on April 25, 2007 at 5:24 pm

Yes, he can write-
Yes, he is right on with this analysis--
I have been listing to Hitchens for years (he was on the radio frequently with Marc Cooper on KPFK in LA), and watched his swings in ideology and political direction. His problem with alcohol may be a factor, but for a long term perspective, he appears ethically challenged, and could be Christopher Khomeini in the near future.
Just a warning-- He is smart, a good writer, but not to be trusted-
Just my opinion from 15 years with Hitchens

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8. Comment #34955 by zeous on April 25, 2007 at 5:31 pm

283 pages, chauvinj

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9. Comment #34956 by Friend Giskard on April 25, 2007 at 5:48 pm

 avatarDon't pussyfoot, Hitch. Tell us what you really think.

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10. Comment #34965 by sir_russ on April 25, 2007 at 6:26 pm

The local Barnes and Noble here in Lansing MI has "god is not Great" available. I got my copy yesterday. It's a great read. I've read four of his books and this is the best yet.

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11. Comment #34974 by neander on April 25, 2007 at 7:35 pm

 avatarThis is great. I only wish I could speak and write as well as he does.

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12. Comment #34976 by Spinoza on April 25, 2007 at 7:53 pm

 avatarHe's bang on about this:

While some religious apology is magnificent in its limited way—one might cite Pascal—and some of it is dreary and absurd—here one cannot avoid naming C. S. Lewis—both styles have something in common, namely the appalling load of strain that they have to bear. How much effort it takes to affirm the incredible!


Reading Leibniz, I got the same feeling... it actually causes severe frustration to any well versed reader... you can actually FEEL the struggle in his mind, to reconcile the irrational, incredible dogma he "so" believed in, with the rationalist dogmatic philosophy he had developed on his own... and though he ultimately, and clearly fails, to anyone who can struggle through and come to understand such things... one can at least admire the amount of effort it took to make such silliness look as though it fit any semblance of logic.

I am speaking of Leibniz's "Theodicy"... which damn near gave me a brain hemorrhage this past week, having to write a paper on it.

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13. Comment #34978 by HappyPrimate on April 25, 2007 at 7:57 pm

 avatarSince I really enjoy listening to Mr. Hitchens speak I ordered his book as an audio book (8 CD Roms). If anyone wants to do the same, it is available at AudioEditions.com. Should be here next week.

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14. Comment #34983 by N_Martin215 on April 25, 2007 at 8:28 pm

Does anybody who has or has read the book know if he deals with how religion retards science? He hinted toward it breifly. I think it is a very important, undeniable, and easily provable fact that hasn't been touched upon enough or in enough detail. As the saying goes: "if it weren't for religion Christopher Columbus would have landed on the moon."

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15. Comment #34984 by Dr Benway on April 25, 2007 at 8:30 pm

 avatarThomas Paine awakes because we need him.

It's possible to accept a poet for his art without idolizing him as greater than the rest of us.

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." 1 Corinthians 13:11

Human beings can change. We no longer bind the feet of female babies. Likewise, we can shrug off the mental bondage of ancient superstions.

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16. Comment #34995 by Audley Strange on April 25, 2007 at 9:49 pm

 avatarHightrekker, spot on. I've always thought he was in the business of self promotion through controversy, though he does have razor sharp focus in his writings.

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17. Comment #35001 by Steven Mading on April 25, 2007 at 10:38 pm

I agree about the complaint over the word "brights". While I've felt the incorrect strawmanning that comes from people's misconception over atheism (and their inability to tell that it's not just a case of common-usage-is-right-because-thats-how-language-work, , because their definition includes predjudices), and so I can understand the desire to coin a new term, I think the term "Brights" was a horrendous choice to pick for that new word. If you want to say that unbelievers are brighter than believers, I might even agree, but do it AFTER the definitions are picked - don't do it INSIDE of the definitions - because making your argument inside the definitions of your terms is called propaganda, and I can't support that.

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18. Comment #35006 by Atticus_of_Amber on April 25, 2007 at 11:18 pm

 avatarOn the issue of what to call ourselves, why not "faith free"?

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19. Comment #35008 by JDAM on April 25, 2007 at 11:37 pm

re comment #7 by hightrekker:

I am trying to figure out your point. As best I can discern thusfar, you seem to be one of those flaming Lefties (my god...I've met SO many in my days as a denizen of KPFA) so immersed in the insufferable righteousness of your philosophical position, that to witness any change of heart and mind by one who was formerly of your stripe automatically brands that person as a traitor to the "cause" (whatever that is) and, at the least, unethical for making that change.

The self-righteously laughable jutzpah of such a position was only one of the many reasons that I made the same change as Hitchens, but about 1988.
So many real, dyed-in-the-wool lefties with the same attitudes ultimately became perfect boors, particularly when asked pointed questions about the basis of their philosophy and answering with real intelligence like, "Well! If you don't KNOW, its a waste of my time to try to explain it all to you!"

The tip-off to such an attitude is the fumbling around for the "reason" for the change. Never philosophical, the "change" is always attributable to something external like, "He was paid off by the Right" (David Horowitz) or, in Hitchens' case, "It must have been the booze..." The thought that there might be something profoundly and substantively defective in the original philosophy that the "defector" simply could no longer tolerate never comes to mind.

As Dr. Thomas Sewell said, "The most common argument used by the Left is that there is no argument!" I believe that is because there is no thinking, either.

I immensely enjoyed the exchanges between Hitchens and Alex Cockburn in THE NATION. Both men are past masters in the art of using the English language with devastating effectiveness. In Hitchens' case, "the booze" certainly hasn't taken any edge off of that. I'm thankful that he finally saw the error of his political ways. A pity that more Lefties simply aren't capable of at least a critical self-examination of their beliefs from time to time.

His book is on the way!

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20. Comment #35009 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on April 25, 2007 at 11:39 pm

 avatarPhew!!! I've always been dubious about him because of his position of the Iraq war, but maybe he's the kind of guy who will be read by people that would never, ever read Dennett, Dawkins or Harris.

Go for it, Hitchens.

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21. Comment #35019 by Rtambree on April 26, 2007 at 1:41 am

Just released on Amazon UK today.

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22. Comment #35022 by Suffolk Blue on April 26, 2007 at 1:49 am

"The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species."

Love it! :-)

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23. Comment #35030 by Vaal on April 26, 2007 at 3:34 am

 avatarWow. Excellent. I will have to dig out my dictionary and thesaurus. I agree that "Brights" is not a great name, as I have many friends who are believers who are well educated and very bright, but are strangely deaf to reason when their religion is challenged. However, I believe that laying a seed to germinate in their minds is sometimes a better course than outright attack. I have even managed to persuade a fairly devout Muslim guy at work to buy "The God Delusion". He has read some of it and has come out with the usual vacuous and woolly headed arguments, but he isn't stupid, and he has acceced to many points.
I will definitely be buying Mr Hitchens rich diatribe on religion.

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24. Comment #35037 by Abdi Sanati on April 26, 2007 at 4:01 am

Hightaker

Your new name for Hitchens made me laugh! Good humour!

People who are interested can find detail of Hitchens' debate with Chomsky on the web. Links to original articles are available from Wikipedia.

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25. Comment #35059 by Thor on April 26, 2007 at 5:24 am

 avatarLongtime Hitchens fan that I am I find myself immensely grateful to Josh for posting this piece here.

Hitchens is, by his very nature, controversial and many here might have been for various reasions averse to buying his book. The best antidote to such ideological squeamishness really is to showcase his powerful and amazing writing skills - this time beautifully employed in arguing against religion.

I have most of his books and I often enjoy reading his articles; however, that does not mean that there aren't many times points of disagreement. But that is exactly what Hitchens - or, as friends and enemies alike often like to call him, "Hitch" - refers to above:
disagreements on various issues, even if they are very deep and prinicpled disagreements, should never preclude rational and well-meaning people from working together on entirely different issues where we do agree.

Anyway, I have already ordered his book, but since I don't live in the "anglosphere" I will have to wait longer than some of you. So to those among you closer to the source, so to speak, I can only say:
Go and buy this book. I promise you will not regret it - but, actually, you don't have to believe me, someone who is very favorably biased towards Hitchens.
Just look at this excerpt above: isn't this just a terrific and powerful piece of writing?
Trust me, this man KNOWS how to write and polemize - even on the danger of sounding overly reverential: I would be grateful if I had only half of his skill.

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26. Comment #35071 by bitbutter on April 26, 2007 at 6:06 am

 avatarGreat excerpt, i will be buying it too i think.

The title is a dreadful choice though, the "How Religion Poisons Everything" part. This is seriously overstating the case and needlessly supplies his critics with potent ammunition before they even open the book (in a way that i don't believe 'The God Delusion' did - despite the widespread complaints about that title).

Religion doesn't poison _everything_, sometimes religion is even useful, or even leads to Good Things.

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27. Comment #35074 by HunterZolomon on April 26, 2007 at 6:15 am

 avatarThis is going to be interesting! Just ordered mine from Amazon.

I'm not too sure about Hitchens being untrustworthy as some posters here claim. Just because he has changed his mind on a political issue. So what?
Rationality does not have a political color. I am certain that rational people of a liberal inclination have far, far more in common with rational conservatives than they do with the more dogmatic left and vice versa. From what I've read and heard of Hitchens it seems to me he is quite reasonable. Provocative sure, but maybe he just refuses to let political camps dictate his sense of ethics.

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28. Comment #35082 by Bookman on April 26, 2007 at 6:47 am

A good article, though I'm not quite as over-the-moon about it as others. I did like the line, "And as it happens, I will continue to do this without insisting on the polite reciprocal condition—which is that they in turn leave me alone. But this, religion is ultimately incapable of doing."

I agree, however, with comment #7 from hightrekker -- the way in which Hitchens has treated his friends and former allies is reason to keep a safe distance from him. From reading his articles one might conclude that Hitchens is the only one who cares about human rights and fighting tyranny. His drunken public outbursts reveal a core of instability that people dealing with him must be aware of. His last book, on Thomas Paine, was a bit pedestrian, but I may buy this one anyway. Contrary to what JDAM thinks, Hitchens isn't nearly as sharp as he once was, but the flashes of brilliance that still come through are enjoyable.

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29. Comment #35093 by ksskidude on April 26, 2007 at 7:18 am

 avatarI am 100 pages into the book and its worth every penny! Hitchens has a knack for being able to say exactly what I have been thinking for years. It is inspiring, because I am getting more and more prepared to get in the fight.

I am planning on writing an op-ed titled, "An Agnostic turned Atheist," Over the battle of embryonic stem cell research. But am a little leary because I am in the public eye, and am fairly worried about the backlash that might ensue.
However reading Dawkins and Harris and Hitchens has given me more than enough ammo to stand up for what I believe to be truth, based on evidence or lack there of. I spent an entire year on the campaign trail to keep Embryonic Stem Cell research legal in my state. I have been called "baby killer," told I walk with the devil, and had to listen to yokel zealots tell me how it was aginst God's will. I had to hear Alan Keyes, tell everyone that "God hates people who are in favor of ESCR."
But the worst part for me, was that I was unable to challenge those idiotic superstitious beliefs because I was a part of a coalition that was trying to win votes. Talkings points were key, along with a perverbial muzzle.

We won and the amendment did pass, but only by 50K votes out of 4million. Needless to say, the dim witted representatives who are "Christian" are again trying to ban and outlaw ESCR once again. It is mind boggleing.



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30. Comment #35097 by willerror on April 26, 2007 at 7:35 am

OMG! This writer is someone who is quite occasionally brilliant, is a drinker and might not be such a great guy to know personally? Heaven forfend! There's never been anyone like that before! Good grief, people.

I have to say, I think I like the above excerpt even more than Dawkins on the same topic. I'm awaiting the book from Amazon at this moment.

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31. Comment #35107 by Philip1978 on April 26, 2007 at 8:12 am

 avatarksskidude, pardon me for asking but exactly what is it you do, sounds very interesting
Your fight for Stem cell research is invaluable, congratulations on your results. It sounds like it was some fight, being called a "baby killer" when in fact you are fighting for the right for scientists to SAVE the lives of babies is ludicrous. I am glad you stuck to your guns, well done
Well, in the words of Winston Churchill, K.B.O (Keep Buggering On!)and get that book written, I for one will buy it, your story sounds an exciting one (There you go, some praise instead of abuse!)

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32. Comment #35124 by ksskidude on April 26, 2007 at 9:38 am

 avatarPhillip1978

Thanks for your kind words! I speak to students on brain and spinal cord injury prevention. Since there is no cure at this moment, prevention is the best strategy. I inform them that these catastrophic injuries happen most often in car crashes, falls from skate boarding, bike riding, diving into pools, etc...

As for the battle for stem cell research, I for one am sick and tired of religion getting in the way of life saving cures.

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33. Comment #35130 by sane1 on April 26, 2007 at 9:48 am

 avatarThis excerpt is from the first chapter, which I am past. My recommendation: buy the book.

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34. Comment #35132 by Suffolk Blue on April 26, 2007 at 9:58 am

I don't know anything at all about Hitchens the man and don't really understand why people are making a fuss about whether he is a likeable bloke or not or what his stance on the Iraq War is.

If our desire is for all people to lose their religion / supersition and come to their senses (and that is certainly my desire) - then we have to accept there will be six billion atheists out there with all sorts of different political views.

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35. Comment #35143 by jshuey on April 26, 2007 at 10:34 am

 avatarEmbryonic stem cell research is not only legal, it is being carried on in most areas of the U.S. (And i am not speaking of only "the Shrubs'" 60 +/- "approved" lines.)

What is not being done, except in a few states, is that the research is not being funded by public monies, but rather through private investment and grants.

This state of affairs bothers me not in the least. Indeed, I would ask those who support public funding of this (or any such) research to point me to that clause in the Constitution of the U.S. which authorizes Congress to spend public funds on any such undertaking.

But back to Hitchen's -- He was once a leftist but now he's matured into a reasoning individual. Jolly good, what?

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36. Comment #35167 by waxwings on April 26, 2007 at 12:55 pm

 avatar"It may be a long farewell, but it has begun and, like all farewells, should not be protracted."

ROFLMAO. You gotta appreciate the man's wit. I cannot say I disagreed with a single word of it.

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37. Comment #35169 by waxwings on April 26, 2007 at 1:03 pm

 avatar"But back to Hitchen's -- He was once a leftist but now he's matured into a reasoning individual. Jolly good, what?"

The implication here is presumably that 'leftist' ideas like, say, funding stem cell research are immature and/or unreasonable. You would do well to take a 'mature', 'reasoned' step by examining the effect of withholding funding for stem cell research more carefully.

Most scientific facilities, especially those at the university level, receive at least some public funding. If a lab, a staff member, a test tube, or any other resource is paid for in any part by government funding, then it cannot be used at all for certain kinds of stem cell research. The same labs that are available for any other avenues of study are therefore withheld from those doing research on stem cells. The same labs that other scientists get to share the costs of must be paid for in full by any scientists doing stem cell research. The prohibition on stem cell funding is extremely and disproportionately destructive to scientific research.

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38. Comment #35232 by rooz on April 26, 2007 at 4:20 pm

jshuey "Indeed, I would ask those who support public funding of this (or any such) research to point me to that clause in the Constitution of the U.S. which authorizes Congress to spend public funds on any such undertaking."

Well, that would be the taxing and spending clause Article 1 Section 8. Congress has broad--in fact plenary--authority to tax and spend for the general welfare.

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39. Comment #35250 by atheisticism on April 26, 2007 at 5:40 pm

Excellent article. It justifies the recent uprising of militant atheism in a very clear and concise manner. The only problem i had was with using the word "soul" even if it was metaphorical. I too have a problem with using the word "brights." I don't even think the word atheist should be used. Labeling non-theists with any name seems to lend credibility to theism. Do we call people who don't drive adrivers? Are those who don't play musical instruments amusicians? The only thing people who don't believe that a magical super-being said "abracadabra" and everything appeared, should be called, is sane! It's difficult to understand how anyone, much less this fine writer, could support the completely unjustified invasion of iraq. Jawge Dubaya is the worst war criminal since Hitler in my book.

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40. Comment #35266 by foxfire on April 26, 2007 at 6:33 pm

 avatarI pre-ordered the book from Amazon US and it came 3 days ago. I'm into Chapter 9 of 19.

If Dawkins is a Rottweiler snarling at religion to back off its attempt to contaminate science, then Hitchens is Panthera tigris tigris striking for the soft underbelly of religion. Hitchens does not give a break to superstitious beliefs anywhere, including past icons of science.

Rough stuff and I can see this book hitting the charts soon (given that Amazon is already shipping and the the publication date on the inside cover is May 2007).

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright,
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?


I think Tyger would laugh, light another cigarette and ask "what &@$#* immortal hand?"

Awsome book - Hitchens got guts!

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41. Comment #35361 by hozi on April 27, 2007 at 2:06 am

No doubt this excerpt reads very well. Reading eloquently worded sentiments that I have not been able to formulate myself is welcome. But Hitchens' fluid prose detracts from some things I am uncomfortable with. Namely:
1. Lumping together "brothel-keeper" with an "ethnic cleanser" in one morally reprehensible category.
2. The generosity he shows the religious camp in the last paragraph of the excerpt is in sharp contrast with his overall tirade against it (unless it is meant tongue-in-cheek.)
3. He states "Literature, not scripture sustains the mind." Since religious sentiment did infuse a number of writers (Tolstoy at least from the list he quotes,) this fact weakens the argument.

Overall, I am cautious of prose that reads too well, and pronounces rather than argues. It can take away from the rigorous and arduous argument based approach that the subject deserves, and which the likes of Dawkins and Harris have been admirably doing.

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42. Comment #35395 by padster1976 on April 27, 2007 at 3:58 am

 avatarI love Hitchins' writings!

As for the war stance, wellll, thats a different matter. No-one is right all the time.

That's one of the benefits of having an open mind and the fuction of dialogue.

I'm sure Chris has his reasons. I haven't a clue what they are but in terms of his opinion I'd like to hear it as I have great respect for him.

Doesn't mean I have to agree though. Provided my objections are valid!

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43. Comment #35494 by Ole on April 27, 2007 at 11:24 am

 avatarWhen I read this, I changed my mind and ordered the book. When I first saw info about it here, I decided: I do not need yet another (I have Dennett, Dawkins, Harris and "old timers" like Russell).

But like others, I liked his writing. Alone, it is one of the best essays I've read on this subject.
(Hope he has more of this in the book)

Of course he struck a nerve in me in the opening here - I was 9 and several years away from loosing my boyish soprano voice, when I realised that God was not more likely than Santa Claus. So, in fact I was never a believer.

Ole

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