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Looking back, it was the intellectual high point of my summer: Ten science and religion reporters sitting inside the divinity building at Cambridge University, contemplating the essence of a raisin. As the hypnotic voice of the speaker, an expert on Buddhist meditation, lulled us from the here and now, I placed the wrinkly thing on my tongue, exploring its peaks and valleys until, all of a sudden, I broke through the linguistic cellophane. The raisin ceased to be a raisin or anything with a name. It had no history as a fruit grown on a vine and shipped to market; it evoked no memories of the little Sun-Maid boxes my mother packed in my lunch pail or of a particularly good glass of cabernet sauvignon.* It just was.2. Comment #35423 by jeepinci on April 27, 2007 at 5:46 am
grapes dry up ...... grapes dry out - O'Reilly3. Comment #35427 by Ian on April 27, 2007 at 6:02 am
I had trouble reading this article at the beginning, but I'm glad I persevered for two reasons:4. Comment #35453 by TranshumanAtheist on April 27, 2007 at 7:56 am
The rational, "Tollanized" civilization of the future can certainly integrate these scientific data without all the primitive cosmological and moral notions long associated with "spiritual" experiences. We'd have Darwin, modern physics, a liberal morality and a clinical understanding of "mysticism"; but not creationism, exorcisms, faith healing, the killing of heretics and other traditional religious nonsense.5. Comment #35456 by GodlessHeathen on April 27, 2007 at 8:09 am
6. Comment #35457 by John A. Michon on April 27, 2007 at 8:10 am
1. Comment #35422 by epeeist on April 27, 2007 at 5:45 am
As you can see from my avatar I am a fencing coach. Now strangely enough when I take a beginner and put them through a training course they tend to develop more musculature and coordination. I haven't measured it myself but apparently long time fencers have increased left brain/right brain interaction.
7. Comment #35462 by Logicel on April 27, 2007 at 8:31 am
8. Comment #35468 by quork on April 27, 2007 at 8:52 am
Out of politeness, perhaps, or a hope for future Templeton grants, neurotheologists tend to play down the most direct implication of their research: that religious ecstasy is an illusion.9. Comment #35471 by maton100 on April 27, 2007 at 9:02 am
10. Comment #35472 by Machinus on April 27, 2007 at 9:12 am
Is every neuropathologist a completely spineless fool? Is good medicine being suppressed by business pressures like alienating the clientele? When are the professionals going to start telling people to stop encouraging their vegetative fantasies?11. Comment #35485 by Red Foot Oakie on April 27, 2007 at 10:26 am
12. Comment #35487 by Aaron SF on April 27, 2007 at 10:53 am
13. Comment #35500 by Corylus on April 27, 2007 at 11:37 am
14. Comment #35505 by Seti on April 27, 2007 at 11:50 am
15. Comment #35574 by TheCelestialTeapot on April 27, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Any good scientific hypothesis will try to minimize the number of unwarranted assumptions made in any given experiment. In this case the simple explanation of brain function and brain chemicals causing religious ecstasy is much better than saying the brain was "wired by god". It seems to me that many theists invent any old ad hoc response in order to preserve their cherished beliefs. Theologians are entitled their opinions, but religion has no place in science unless it's under the microscope.16. Comment #35596 by Brunoaflame on April 27, 2007 at 7:13 pm
I agree with almost everything which the unholy trinity(Dawkins, Harris, Dennett) have to say about religion. Their reason and eloquence are beyond reproach. The trouble is that they only speak to one half of the dual nature of man or the mind--the concious reasoning half. The root of religion lies in the other half, that part of our reality where we spend at least 1/3 of our entire existance--sleep. I am not saying that it has anything to do with God or the supernatural, but there is something there which Don Juan called the Nagual, and which Jung called the collective unconcious, which cannot be explained rationally. At any rate, I think that without spirituality, we would have achieved non of the great intuitive scientific breakthroughs which have brought us to where we are today.17. Comment #35605 by TheCelestialTeapot on April 27, 2007 at 8:02 pm
I feel compelled to disagree with you Brunoflame. If you're speaking about Cartesian dualism, or mind/body duality, then I think you need to clarify the point you're trying to make. Cartesian dualism is no longer a tenable position. Philosophers in the field of cognitive neuroscience argue for what's called "qualia" or the subjective qualities of personal experience. Although many materialist/reductionist philosophers, like Dennett, have really done a terrific job of examining that argument. I would also suggest that you clarify what you mean by "spirituality", because as it stands I certainly disagree with your last statement. I'm not trying to be combative, I just wanted you to expand on your ideas. Thanks Bruno.18. Comment #35628 by Rtambree on April 28, 2007 at 2:42 am
>Either the brain naturally or through a malfunction manufactures religious delusions, or some otherworldly presence speaks to homo sapiens through the language of neurological pulses. Hot in pursuit of this undecidable proposition, neurotheology will keep on churning out data—but when it comes to the biggest questions, it will never have much to say.19. Comment #35645 by John Phillips on April 28, 2007 at 5:10 am
The only really relevant part of the article and which says it all really;20. Comment #35655 by John A. Michon on April 28, 2007 at 5:54 am
'God is in the dendrites' is a proposition that only becomes meaningful if it is given a material connotation, that is, if it is stated in terms of one or more hypotheses about a neuroanatomical structure, neurocognitive function or mechanisms or cognitive strategies. These represent what Daniel Dennett once identified as the physical, design, and intentional stance respectively (1978, 1986), or call it hardware, firmware, and software respectively.
A religious upbringing reduces the influence of genetic factors on disinhibition: Evidence for interaction between genotype and environment on personality
DI Boomsma, EJC de Geus, GCM van Baal and JR Koopmans (1999)
Twin Research, 2, 115-125
http://www.tweelingenregister.org/nederlands/verslaggeving/NTR_publicaties/TRBoomsmaDisinh.pdf
Information on personality, on anxiety and depression and on several aspects of religion was collected in 1974 Dutch families consisting of adolescent and young adult twins and their parents. Analyses of these data showed that differences between individuals in religious upbringing, in religious affiliation and in participation in church activities are not influenced by genetic factors. The familial resemblance for different aspects of religion is high, but can be explained entirely by environmental influences common to family members. Shared genes do not contribute to familial resemblances in religion. The absence of genetic influences on variation in several dimensions of religion is in contrast to findings of genetic influences on a large number of other traits that were studied in these twin families. Differences in religious background are associated with differences in personality, especially in Sensation Seeking. Subjects with a religious upbringing, who are currently religious and who engage in church activities score lower on the scales of the Sensation Seeking Questionnaire. The most pronounced effect is on the Disinhibition scale. The resemblances between twins for the Disinhibition scale differ according to their religious upbringing. Receiving a religious upbringing seems to reduce the influence of genetic factors on Disinhibition, especially in males.
21. Comment #35856 by Brunoaflame on April 29, 2007 at 4:38 am
Reply to TheCelestialTeapot:22. Comment #36093 by DavidMcC on April 30, 2007 at 7:14 am
23. Comment #36449 by jonecc on May 1, 2007 at 7:08 am
The idea that some people are unable to hear God does have a theological history. For instance, in the Koran it talks about people who will never hear the word of Islam because "Allah has stopped up their ears".This article is reposted from a website that accepts comments.
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1. Comment #35422 by epeeist on April 27, 2007 at 5:45 am
Now there is obviously more going on than simple training, there must be something more spiritual about it. I propose therefore to start a new science which I am going to call escrimetheology.
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