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Scores of Iranian women have been arrested over the past few weeks for improper dress, known as "bad hijab", and even the country's President has found himself on the wrong end of the conservatives' wrath.2. Comment #37592 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on May 5, 2007 at 9:43 am
3. Comment #37594 by Nebularry on May 5, 2007 at 9:59 am
And THIS is what our soldiers are dying for??? Unless and until the majority of people themselves voluntarily change their attitude we can never win the war.4. Comment #37598 by Laurence Winch-Furness on May 5, 2007 at 10:13 am
5. Comment #37599 by Robert Maynard on May 5, 2007 at 10:15 am
Surely they must be so sick (the people that is) of this crap, that they are going to simply push the regime aside by sheer weight of numbers?Well, I do think you're overestimating the demographics, but in any case it's a small side effect of becoming reasonable and "sick of religious bullshit" that one usually stops being a raving zealot willing to kill.
6. Comment #37601 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on May 5, 2007 at 10:19 am
7. Comment #37603 by ridelo on May 5, 2007 at 10:28 am
We should praise Ahmadinejad for showing some human kindness at last. And encourage him to keep up that habit. The former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami looked kinder even if he was a cleric.8. Comment #37605 by Robert Maynard on May 5, 2007 at 10:42 am
9. Comment #37632 by Richard Dawkins on May 5, 2007 at 11:56 am
How dare you post this photograph when it is so obviously offensive to millions of Muslims? To make matters worse, the woman is a teacher, and for all we know she may during her long career have taught girls to read and write. It is at least a relief to learn that she was wearing gloves and that she made some token attempt to cover her hair, thereby partially reducing the otherwise uncontrollable lust which would necessarily afflict all males who encountered her. But even so, printing the photograph is an act of wanton insensitivity. And don't try to defend your editorial policy on grounds of freedom of the press. Freedom may be a virtue, but it doesn't licence you to go out of your way to give offence.11. Comment #37662 by GBile on May 5, 2007 at 12:35 pm
This is a revolting story. Islam has been branded 'a backward culture'. I agree, also because no demonstrations will be held by 'moderate muslims' to protest what is going on in Iran.12. Comment #37677 by HappyPrimate on May 5, 2007 at 12:55 pm
13. Comment #37691 by kade on May 5, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Maybe the president truly revered his teacher, and was not going to let some trifling tribal law curb his display of affection. This incident goes to show that teachers are venerated the world over, and that priests and educators will always be in conflict. Reminds me of a Victor Hugo quote....14. Comment #37708 by Manfred on May 5, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Comment #37599 by Robert Maynard : "I would think the most prudent thing to do, if I were an atheist in an essentially theocratic country, would be to get the fuck out of there as quickly as possible, rather than strive for social upheaval. One can call that cowardice, but it's also sensible!"15. Comment #37735 by deejay on May 5, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Flight or fight, evolution prevails . No wuckin furries .16. Comment #37799 by foxfire on May 5, 2007 at 6:37 pm
It is at least a relief to learn that she was wearing gloves and that she made some token attempt to cover her hair, thereby partially reducing the otherwise uncontrollable lust which would necessarily afflict all males who encountered her.
17. Comment #37829 by nworbynot on May 5, 2007 at 11:07 pm
stone them both to death for this disgraceful act of sexual debauchary18. Comment #37833 by Big T on May 6, 2007 at 12:12 am
Let's face it. Sam Harris told the truth when he said that we (meaning, I suppose, the secular West) are at war with Islam. I was accused of bigotry on this website for saying that if Muslims in England (where I don't live) don't want to let their daughters go to school with their faces unveiled, they should move to another country. Perhaps that was out of line on my part, but countries in the modern world are simply not going to be able to coexist with this kind of medieval madness. If that means I'm a bigot, so be it.19. Comment #37841 by epeeist on May 6, 2007 at 1:06 am
20. Comment #37843 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on May 6, 2007 at 1:19 am
21. Comment #37846 by Flagellant on May 6, 2007 at 1:56 am
22. Comment #37890 by Manfred on May 6, 2007 at 6:11 am
I think there are two issues here. Muslims who live in Western countries ought to follow the laws of that country. As for their culture, they can keep it as long as it is not offensive to the host country's culture. Covering your face is not culturally acceptable in West. Thieves cover their faces. People rightly become suspicious of you. At the very least it is impolite to the host culture to cover your face and show up in public.23. Comment #37897 by WilliamP on May 6, 2007 at 7:15 am
It looks like Ahmadinejad better redeem himself and do something to show he is an upright and moral Islamic fundmentalist. Maybe to show that he hasn't lost his sense of ethics he can threaten Israel with nuclear war again. Or just have Hesbollah indiscriminately murder more civilians with their rockets.24. Comment #37949 by sanjiv on May 6, 2007 at 11:39 am
Intolerant Iran may be just the place that produces closet atheists on a large scale. Who knows, it may one day be home to the largest atheist population in the world!25. Comment #37955 by stephenray on May 6, 2007 at 12:43 pm
One can only wonder why they are *so* frightened of women...
1. Comment #37591 by Robert Maynard on May 5, 2007 at 9:17 am
But just one glove is not enough by sharia law! Our top sheiks assure us that cooties can and will carry through most materials if not properly insulated."
What a bunch of children.
If that smirking madman Mahmoud isn't conservative enough for Iran, what monstrosity might the people replace him with?
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