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'No proof Jesus heals Aids'

by News24.com

...and in really obvious news...

Thanks to Tim Beck for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2103937,00.html

Cape Town - An advertisement for a religious campaign has been ruled out of order for lack of evidence that Jesus can heal Aids.

The Advertising Standards Authority made the ruling after receiving a complaint about a newspaper advertisement last month for a "Miracle Crusade with Reverend Angley".

The advertisement claimed among other things that Jesus "heals Aids".

The ASA said it had tried unsuccessfully to get a response to the complaint, but the advertiser had "failed to provide the ASA with verification of the claim in question".

For this reason, it ruled that the ad was in breach of the ASA code, and misleading.

The ASA said advertisers had to have documentary evidence to support all claims capable of "objective substantiation". It noted that an element of faith could be involved when viewing advertisements such as this.

US evangelist

"However, caution should be taken when referring to HIV/Aids, as an incorrect assumption based on religious faith could result in further infections," it said.

Although the ASA ruling did not go into details, the Rev Angley to which it referred appeared to be Ernest Angley, an evangelist based in the United States.

He specialises in praying for the sick in the name of Jesus, in a ministry that, according to on-line encyclopaedia Wikipedia, "takes him all over the world via television and crusades".

His website suggests people can be healed by putting their hand against his on a computer or television screen.

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1. Comment #37620 by phil rimmer on May 5, 2007 at 11:31 am

Ah, The Reverend Angley. Another of Fat Tony's Bagmen. I wonder what percentage he's allowed to keep?

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2. Comment #37621 by Absinthius on May 5, 2007 at 11:34 am

seeing fat tony isnt that keen on collecting his part due to a massive case of nonexistence.. i bet angleys share is pretty big.

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3. Comment #37623 by justme on May 5, 2007 at 11:37 am

Ernest Angley? I thought that he either died from one too many big macs or had slipped away with his millions and bought an island somewhere. The man must be 70+ by now.

I used to watch that fraud just because he was so out there. Funny at the time as I could not believe any but the dumbest would pay him a dime.

As for now ... I'd giggle if he were beaten to death by a hoard of the former suckers who realized he screwed them over.

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4. Comment #37630 by D'Arcy on May 5, 2007 at 11:54 am

Sorry, haven't a clue who Fat Tony is. Please explain.

On the question of Jesus healing AIDS, if the Christians are right that their God made the universe, then he also made everything in it including AIDS, SARS, MRSA, H5N1, smallpox ...etc.

It shouldn't be too much of a problem for the son of God to nullify AIDS if He wanted to but the reality is .......God just doesn't like humanity! I expect He particularly hates creationist Christians, and Bible Belt preachers, and strikes them down with heart attacks and cancers of the mind.

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5. Comment #37634 by phil rimmer on May 5, 2007 at 11:59 am

D'Arcy, you show Fat Tony no respect! He will not be best pleased.

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6. Comment #37660 by Duff on May 5, 2007 at 12:32 pm

Brother Angley keeps all the money. God has given him exclusive permission to keep the entire loot. I've heard that Ernest wanted to give God a cut, but couldn't find a place to leave the cash, so until God shows up for his share Ernie just keeps it in his off shore account.

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7. Comment #37704 by BillySands on May 5, 2007 at 1:44 pm

Of course Jesus wont heal AIDS. He gave it as a gift to mankind to show his love to us

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8. Comment #37713 by Azven on May 5, 2007 at 2:07 pm

(and for the older, British members of this site)

I don't believe that Jesus can heal Aids. Once a slimming biscuit is broken it stays broken...

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9. Comment #37730 by Nails on May 5, 2007 at 2:41 pm

I think Jesus can do anything, and I've seen the video to prove it.

Click here to watch

Love it.
Blasphemy at its greatest.

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10. Comment #37732 by ridelo on May 5, 2007 at 2:45 pm

Here's Fat Tony:
http://richarddawkins.net/article,983,My-response-to-the-GOP-evolution-question,Brian-Coughlan

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11. Comment #37754 by Aaron SF on May 5, 2007 at 3:54 pm

Well I guess since Jesus just gave all us GAY people aids to punish us for being so GAY he probably could take it away if we'd just stop being GAY.

F@*$$ a@(#$$) @**#*$()$!

I know religious (tax exempt) programs that told gay people they had AIDS when they didn't so they could get them to come back to god (and stop having gay sex) and get blood tests to show they were cured.

The result was these unfortunate people were put on medications because they didn't get a second opinion and went through serious physical trama as a result.

What is it with this week and me and angry homo issues? And I seem to be getting angrier, maybe I should take a break and go post on a knitting forum for a while.

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12. Comment #37761 by Gaffer on May 5, 2007 at 4:16 pm

I advise everyone to click on the link to the original. In the 'related articles' box on the right, the first link is "Duracell bunny 'a fake'".

Somehow, as news stories, "No proof Jesus heals aids" and "Duracell bunny 'a fake'", are absolutely in the same league.

Bravo News24.

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13. Comment #37766 by BAEOZ on May 5, 2007 at 4:23 pm

Nails, just watched that video link. That is hilarious. Jesus the avenger.

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14. Comment #37773 by maton100 on May 5, 2007 at 4:37 pm

Yeah, but my fungus got better when I prayed to Mary. She came down and planted her profile on my left hand.

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15. Comment #37835 by BT Murtagh on May 6, 2007 at 12:24 am

#37730: Nails, that's the funniest thing I've seen in I don't know how long! Thanks!! :D

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16. Comment #37856 by Dr Benway on May 6, 2007 at 3:18 am

Ernest Angley?? Oh, my. I used to watch him when I was a kid, just for the weirdness factor (he's just this side of Todd Browning's Freaks).

I remember his special interest in deafness. Many times in a given service, he'd push his finger into someone's ear and say, "thou foul spirit of deafness... come OUT! In the Name of Jesus." He'd simultaneously yank his finger from the ear, and the startled person would lose balance and fall, as folks tend to do at these kinds of healing services.

A funny moment I remember: an old fellow came up for healing of deafness. Angley wriggled his finger in the guy's ear and began praying loudly. The old guy pointed to the opposite ear and repeated several times, "um... it's my left ear... it's my left ear." Took a while for Angley to catch on.

Angley travels the world channelling God's healing power for the sick. Too bad a bit of that healing never landed on his head, to save everyone from that truly awful toupee.

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17. Comment #37859 by Luthien on May 6, 2007 at 3:25 am

12. Comment #37754 by Aaron SF on May 5, 2007 at 3:54 pm

What is it with this week and me and angry homo issues? And I seem to be getting angrier, maybe I should take a break and go post on a knitting forum for a while.

Nah, you would end up posting:

NO NO NO! How many times do I have to tell you, the rabbit goes through the F%&*ing hole and around the tree!

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18. Comment #37906 by BillySands on May 6, 2007 at 7:52 am

Aaaron

The result was these unfortunate people were put on medications because they didn't get a second opinion and went through serious physical trama as a result.

And no doubt emotional trauma - bunch of evil god bothering cu*ts!
Do you have any links to that?

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19. Comment #38502 by Aaron SF on May 8, 2007 at 11:46 am

Billy, yeah tell me about it. I just realised how useful some documented evidence of these programs would be so I've made it my pet project to hunt some down and I'll post a link as soon as I get something together.

There was a story by one woman on This American Life a few years back but since her trial (and settlement I believe) they've replaced the segment. They still mention it but only briefly in the radio archives... anyone who happens to have an origional please let me know.

http://thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=703

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20. Comment #38720 by D'Arcy on May 9, 2007 at 3:23 am

Thanks Ridelo for the link to Fat tony. I thought he was some loquacious preacher in the mid west. God what a fool I've been.

So Fat tony (alias Big G), has his hitmen Spirito Gangstus and Jay says (Saviour Money) Christ, backed up by the Angelos Brothers, do the dirty work to keep the neighbourhood clear of the Sonny Shiite gang! Wow what a perfect creator. I hope Holey Mary is well protected from that bunch!

Bootiful day, huh!

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