Fleas on the Horizon: In Defense of God52. Comment #138185 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 3:26 am
If that is the case, I would have to say that I don't believe in any gods that I haven't heard of either - so I am with Nefrubyr on this one.
53. Comment #138199 by PJG on March 4, 2008 at 3:57 am
54. Comment #138225 by Vadjong on March 4, 2008 at 4:43 am
55. Comment #138227 by Major Bloodnok on March 4, 2008 at 4:47 am
The atheists write with what Matt Baugher, v-p and publisher for spiritual growth and Christian thought at Thomas Nelson, calls "venom," stridently stating that religious belief is delusional and dangerous and the world would be better off without it.
56. Comment #138237 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 5:02 am
Much as I enjoyed Stenger's book, I wasn't convinced by his arguments.
57. Comment #138243 by Tycho the Dog on March 4, 2008 at 5:12 am
58. Comment #138248 by hungarianelephant on March 4, 2008 at 5:22 am
59. Comment #138253 by Styrer- on March 4, 2008 at 5:26 am
The New Atheist Crusaders and Their Unholy Grail
60. Comment #138257 by Nefrubyr on March 4, 2008 at 5:31 am
61. Comment #138259 by Zaphod on March 4, 2008 at 5:33 am
62. Comment #138264 by Zaphod on March 4, 2008 at 5:39 am
63. Comment #138292 by P. Kelsey on March 4, 2008 at 6:52 am
Comment #138183 by Corylus64. Comment #138294 by cowalker on March 4, 2008 at 7:00 am
Vadjong:Richard (among many others) provides his own broadest possible spectrum of what would be considered a divine entity (from Stone Age 'bolt tossing sky daddy' to New Age 'some form of cosmic energy') and then pulls the rug lengthwise and sideways. AND STILL they claim their God is not flying on this carpet. So they are asked to explain. They twist the emperor's knickers subtly and the whole cycle starts again.
"You have to examine these books much closer now, sales-wise, because there are so many. It's a topic that will continue, but it can't sustain these huge sales. It's not going to become perennial, like diet books."
65. Comment #138346 by Prom_STar on March 4, 2008 at 8:11 am
"anyone devoid of faith is evil, immoral, and responsible for societal ills."66. Comment #138415 by Olliedog on March 4, 2008 at 9:26 am
Says editor Holly Halverson, "We wanted more of a handbook that wouldn't scare people off."
67. Comment #138420 by Bonzai on March 4, 2008 at 9:32 am
Does any body know what is Stenger's reputation as a research scientist?68. Comment #138424 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 9:40 am
69. Comment #138433 by Yorker on March 4, 2008 at 10:08 am
What species of creature would write a book entitled "The End of Reason"? Not a human being surely? It's clear to me that all humans who manage to live from one day to the next use reason as their main means of ensuring survival! Why on earth anyone would want to write a book with such an idiotic title is, thankfully, beyond my understanding. Indeed, why anyone would waste time reading any kind of non-evidential flea book is also beyond my understanding. If such a book produced evidence for any kind of God it would instantly become the best book ever written, no such book ever will produce evidence; no such book will ever say anything at all that would cause me to re-evaluate my stance on religion; I will never learn anything at all from such a book, such books are completely without value.70. Comment #138434 by willerror on March 4, 2008 at 10:09 am
--Chris Hedges, a war correspondent and graduate of Harvard Divinity School, believes that evolution alone can't make us goodâ€"we need to believe in something. In I Don't Believe in Atheists (Free Press, Mar.), Hedges equates the new atheists to the fundamentalist believers they critique and suggests that they're just as dangerous.--71. Comment #138446 by Richard Morgan on March 4, 2008 at 10:40 am
I'm convinced that debating religion, for or against, is a complete waste of time; it's time for action, we must fight religion wherever we find itI understand what you're saying, but I feel that not all debates are a waste of time.
72. Comment #138465 by Polydactyl on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 am
One problem is that rationalism isn't the only alternative to religion. I meet a lot of people who have given up religion in favour of 'spirituality' or some variety of New Ageism or superstition. Not sure it isn't better to be opposed to something systematic than to be opposed to the nebulous irrational. Though I suppose the irrational doesn't necessarily involve fanaticism.73. Comment #138475 by cyris8400 on March 4, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I saw Chris Hedges's book "I Don't Believe in Atheists" at the bookstore a few days ago and read through the preface, and I can honestly say that whatever critical acumen he possessed when tackling the Religious Right in "American Fascists" must have been thrown to the wayside in order to criticize Hitchens and Harris (he says this book was formulated from his debates with Harris and Hitchens).74. Comment #138486 by MaxD on March 4, 2008 at 12:34 pm
75. Comment #138490 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I though Stegner spelled out the program for testing the supernatural. At least in what I've read so far.
We can perform tests for ESP, the efficacy of Prayer, we make all kinds of predictions about what should happen if there is a divine creator and examine what falls out.
76. Comment #138504 by willerror on March 4, 2008 at 12:58 pm
--You see, I just don't get why those effects, if they are true, need to involve terms like "supernatural".--77. Comment #138513 by Barbara on March 4, 2008 at 1:10 pm
78. Comment #138786 by Garnok on March 4, 2008 at 7:28 pm
In not more than your own words, write a condensed version of all the flea books (marks will be deducted for any pretence that any of them contain evidence)
79. Comment #139162 by Lil_Xunzian on March 5, 2008 at 8:34 am
I want to know where "New Atheist" #5 is--a Mrs. Cinq, a Mr. Wu--or is that Ehrman? Too bad the fact that there are more faithies than atheists will mean that they will yield more publications, but we do need a fifth. I'd do it myself, but I'm about eight years of being able to establish myself as an academic and write a book. I want to write a book comparing, from a philosophical point of view, the ethics of Confucius with the ethics of Jesus. You know, pit the oldest secular tradition against Jebus.80. Comment #139641 by Blake C. Stacey on March 6, 2008 at 9:48 am
Norm Doering:81. Comment #139676 by Blake C. Stacey on March 6, 2008 at 11:40 am
Ah, finally! A cookie from some random server was being blocked.82. Comment #139726 by Steve Zara on March 6, 2008 at 12:41 pm
83. Comment #139730 by Diacanu on March 6, 2008 at 12:45 pm
84. Comment #139741 by Goldy on March 6, 2008 at 12:57 pm
85. Comment #139743 by Steve Zara on March 6, 2008 at 12:59 pm
but you worte nicely :-)
86. Comment #139747 by Goldy on March 6, 2008 at 1:03 pm
[sic]
87. Comment #139751 by Steve Zara on March 6, 2008 at 1:07 pm
The Tzu feller is the same Tzu or a different one? Just asking becasue (sic) I don't want to sound stupid by sounding smart ;-)
88. Comment #139753 by Goldy on March 6, 2008 at 1:09 pm
89. Comment #139757 by Steve Zara on March 6, 2008 at 1:12 pm
It's the gin, you know...
90. Comment #145165 by Fathom on March 17, 2008 at 10:31 am
91. Comment #148384 by LiseYates on March 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm
92. Comment #148385 by Richard Morgan on March 22, 2008 at 8:58 pm
What would music inspired by the fleas sound like?This composition is my answer.
http://richarddawkins.net/article,2303,Add-another-flea-to-the-list,RichardDawkinsnet
Something to make them seem ridiculous, pathetic, desperate?
I'm chronically tone-deaf to the point where I didn't know what all the fuss was about when Jemini were the UK entry to the Eurovision Song Contest. My beloved teases me mercilessly about it. I tried to come up with some praise beyond "That sounds nice", or "I liked the wobbly bit with all those notes in it" but my abilities fail me utterly when it comes to describing my appreciation of music..But Cartomancer is one of our most remarkable contributors, and deserved an, er, shall we say, appropriate musical portrait, with recognisable sounds.
93. Comment #158661 by CITCOR on April 10, 2008 at 10:17 pm
I love how the Atheist and Christian book output ratio is about...what? 4:24. It defends my theory that Christians need reassurance, and that religion is nothing more than a mass-movement full of frustrated individuals who hate their life, and want to believe an invisible man in the sky is in charge of it. Pathetic.94. Comment #158662 by CITCOR on April 10, 2008 at 10:23 pm
the God the atheist denies is not the God that people of true faith affirm
95. Comment #177548 by JernJane on May 9, 2008 at 9:27 am
96. Comment #177558 by Diacanu on May 9, 2008 at 9:49 am
51. Comment #138184 by LorienRyan on March 4, 2008 at 3:25 am
"God just exists, alright, He just does. Now don't hurt my feelings."
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