The Great Tantra Challenge
On 3 March 2008, in a popular TV show, Sanal Edamaruku, the president of Rationalist International, challenged India's most "powerful" tantrik (black magician) to demonstrate his powers on him. That was the beginning of an unprecedented experiment. After all his chanting of mantra (magic words) and ceremonies of tantra failed, the tantrik decided to kill Sanal Edamaruku with the "ultimate destruction ceremony" on live TV. Sanal Edamaruku agreed and sat in the altar of the black magic ritual. India TV observed skyrocketing viewership rates.
Now the tantrik changed his technique. He started sprinkling water on Sanal and brandishing a knife in front of him. Sometimes he moved the blade all over his body. Sanal did not flinch. Then he touched Sanal's head with his hand, rubbing and rumpling up his hair, pressing his forehead, laying his hand over his eyes, pressing his fingers against his temples. When he pressed harder and harder, Sanal reminded him that he was supposed to use black magic only, not forceful attacks to bring him down. The tantrik took a new run: water, knife, fingers, mantras. But Sanal kept looking very healthy and even amused.
During the next three hours, India TV ran announcements for The Great Tantra Challenge that called several hundred million people to their TV sets.
Millions of people must have uttered a sigh of relief in front their TVs. Sanal was very much alive. Tantra power had miserably failed. Tantriks are creating such a scaring atmosphere that even people, who know that black magic has no base, can just break down out of fear, commented a scientist during the program. It needs enormous courage and confidence to challenge them by actually putting one's life at risk, he said. By doing so, Sanal Edamaruku has broken the spell, and has taken away much of the fear of those who witnessed his triumph.
52. Comment #144828 by Wosret on March 16, 2008 at 8:23 pm
As Dougles Adams remarked Plan 9, with his "Babble fish" (was it?). If something proves god, then it makes faith unnecessary, and thus god cannot exist, as he would not leave proof of himself because faith is so fundemental to belief!
53. Comment #144834 by Richard Morgan on March 16, 2008 at 8:33 pm
GoldyRichard, I notice a large increase in the frequency of the word fuck (and it's derivatives) in your posts.Three reasons for this:
54. Comment #144836 by Goldy on March 16, 2008 at 8:39 pm
55. Comment #144839 by Richard Morgan on March 16, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Goldy - sorry, I'd forgotten you lived in NZ.56. Comment #144844 by MelM on March 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm
The web site's worth a look.57. Comment #144848 by MelM on March 16, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Atheism needs a good cartoonist.58. Comment #144849 by mintcheerios on March 16, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Sanal Edamaruku is a hero.59. Comment #144853 by Dogzilla on March 16, 2008 at 9:14 pm
60. Comment #144858 by MelM on March 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Dogzilla,61. Comment #144865 by Slyer on March 16, 2008 at 10:23 pm
62. Comment #144868 by Teratornis on March 16, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Comment #144650 by Teratornis
I was equally afraid of becoming possessed by demons if I were to play with an Ouija board.
Did you do the experiment? Can you be sure you aren't possessed?
63. Comment #144879 by the_ultimate_samurai on March 17, 2008 at 12:30 am
I just can't believe the Shamen guy kept up the charade. Was he hoping that Sanal might die from old age in the mean time?
64. Comment #144888 by GordonYKWong on March 17, 2008 at 1:15 am
4. Comment #144554 by Animavore on March 16, 2008 at 10:28 amHe may look smug, but I suspect he is trying not to dislocate his jaw from laughing too hard.
Na. Just to wipe the smug off his face.
65. Comment #144889 by Vadjong on March 17, 2008 at 1:30 am
66. Comment #144893 by Goldy on March 17, 2008 at 2:23 am
Goldy - sorry, I'd forgotten you lived in NZ.
Talking about the use of the f*** word - do you give lessons?
67. Comment #144901 by Forti on March 17, 2008 at 2:52 am
68. Comment #144916 by Aileen on March 17, 2008 at 3:47 am
Interesting that he tried magic to kill him, If its that powerfull why not convert him,Religious types are just no good at logic69. Comment #144918 by irate_atheist on March 17, 2008 at 3:51 am
Here in New Zealand we are expert at fitting as many swear words in a sentence as possible, if we should chose to. ;)Hey, sign me up. I'll happily emigrate to NZ. Only one question, however. Are there enough fucktards for me to swear at?
70. Comment #144938 by Divineosaur on March 17, 2008 at 4:31 am
71. Comment #144953 by tieInterceptor on March 17, 2008 at 5:03 am
60. Comment #144858 by MelM on March 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Edit: Atheism needs a good cartoonist.
72. Comment #145039 by Filius Nithardi on March 17, 2008 at 7:51 am
73. Comment #145495 by Big T on March 17, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Well, darn, there goes my faith in tantric power. Logicel, your pun about ghee was most excellent! Be proud, be very proud!74. Comment #145564 by oshottan on March 17, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Sanal Edamaruku is my hero75. Comment #145608 by Szymanowski on March 17, 2008 at 7:27 pm
76. Comment #145615 by the_ultimate_samurai on March 17, 2008 at 7:38 pm
probably something like "it only works if they believe in it" so because sanal didnt believe in it, it couldnt work..but if he DID...77. Comment #145658 by Wosret on March 17, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I hope they argue that it only works if you believe in it. Then anyone with half a brain will think it prudent to become quite skeptical. 78. Comment #145842 by Your_Noodly_Master on March 18, 2008 at 8:08 am
FTA: "The tantrik, unwilling to admit defeat, tried the excuse that a very strong god whom Sanal might be worshipping obviously protected him."79. Comment #145857 by Ygern on March 18, 2008 at 8:19 am
80. Comment #152370 by prashanth on March 30, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Congratulations to Sanal and that TV channel.81. Comment #223257 by DNA on August 1, 2008 at 10:52 pm
82. Comment #223610 by aarrgghh on August 2, 2008 at 11:03 pm
83. Comment #422248 by KRKBAB on October 7, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Comment #223257 by DNA- If the Indian Rationalists engage in staged stunts to get their message out as you say, that wouldn't help their cause at all. Then they just could be seen as Charlatan B competing with Charlatan A.
51. Comment #144823 by Wosret on March 16, 2008 at 8:16 pm
My brother scared the crap out of me by getting me to believe in tree trolls (shut up, I was 6). If you look at in a tree at night from under it, one would jump down and ripp your face off. One day I tested it, and my face remained intact. After that, stories of monsters and things like that never fooled me.
Shortly after I gained a fear of dolls through Chucky, and clowns through Poltergeist (oddly enough, not ghosts though) which dominated my nightmares for the next couple years. At least they were real things.
I really think that nothing speaks to a person like seeing a claim falsified in front of their eyes. It is the most powerful counter-measure that can be taken against such claims.
I applaud this, as I think this truly is a seriously blow toward belief in such things for a number of the people that were watching, and believed it.
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