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Monday, March 17, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document They prayed to cast Satan from my body

by SMH

Thanks to Gordon Wong for the link.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/they-prayed-to-cast-satan-from-my-body/2008/03/16/1205602195122.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

They prayed to cast Satan from my body
Ruth Pollard

THEY call themselves the Mercy Girls. And after years of searching they have found each other.

Bound by separate, damaging experiences at the hands of an American-style ministry operating in Sydney and the Sunshine Coast, these young women have clawed their way back to begin a semblance of a life again.

Desperate for help, they had turned to Mercy Ministries suffering mental illness, drug addiction and eating disorders.

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Instead of the promised psychiatric treatment and support, they were placed in the care of Bible studies students, most of them under 30 and some with psychological problems of their own. Counselling consisted of prayer readings, treatment entailed exorcisms and speaking in tongues, and the house was locked down most of the time, isolating residents from the outside world and sealing them in a humidicrib of pentecostal religion.

At 21, Naomi Johnson was a young woman with a bright future, halfway through a psychology degree at Edith Cowan University, working part-time and living an independent, social life.

Yet she was plagued by anorexia.

With her family's modest means and her part-time job there was no way she could afford to admit herself into the one private clinic in Perth that specialised in adults with eating disorders.

They had no private health insurance, and there were no publicly funded services in the state. So after much research Johnson found a link to Mercy Ministries on the internet.

Months passed as she devoted herself to going through the application process, pinning all her hopes on what appeared to be a modern, welcoming facility, backed by medical, psychiatric and dietitian support.

She flew to Sydney, thousands of kilometres away from her family and friends, and entered the live-in program.

Nine months later she was expelled, a devastated, withdrawn child who could not leave her bedroom, let alone her house.

Nine months without medical treatment, nine months without any psychiatric care, nine months of being told she was not a good enough Christian to rid herself of the "demons" that were causing her anorexia and pushing her to self-harm. After being locked away from society for so long, Naomi started to believe them. "I just felt completely hopeless. I thought if Mercy did not want to help me where do I stand now?

"They say they take in the world's trash, so what happens when you are Mercy trash?"

Two months after she had been expelled from Mercy's Sydney house (her crime was to smoke a cigarette) Johnson ended up in Royal Perth Hospital's psychiatric unit. From there she started seeing a psychologist at an outpatient program two to three times a week.

"Even now, three years on, I don't socialise widely, I don't work full time, I don't study full time. Even now there is still a lot of remnants hanging around from my time at Mercy.

"The first psychologist I saw rang and spoke to Mercy. She wrote to them over a period of time, just trying to get answers. They were very evasive; they avoided her calls. Eventually she got some paperwork, some case notes, from them."

Mercy Ministries made the psychologist sign a waiver that she wouldn't take these notes to the media before they would release them. Johnson has signed no such waiver and, months ago, she posted her notes on the internet, almost as a warning to other young women considering a stint at Mercy Ministries.

Yet for so long she just wanted to go back to the Sydney house, because they had convinced her that Mercy was the only place that could help her.

"It is difficult to explain, in a logical sense. I know how very wrong the treatment, their program and their approach is, but the wounds are still quite deep, and even though I know that they were wrong, there is still a part of you that just even now wants to be accepted by Mercy."

In the northern suburbs of Perth, in a large, one-storey home bordered by a well-tended cottage garden, the Johnson family is attempting to pick up the pieces of a life almost cut short by Mercy.

With two fox terriers at her feet and doors and windows shut against the relentless Western Australian heat, Johnson - a small, delicate young woman with a razor sharp mind - unveils a sophisticated, nuanced interpretation of her time in the Sydney house.

Careful and articulate, her struggle with the horror of her descent into despair at the hands of Mercy is only evidenced by the occasional tremor in her hands and voice as she describes her experience. She was sharing the house with 15 other girls and young women, with problems ranging from teenage pregnancies, alcohol and drug abuse, self harm, depression, suicidal thoughts and eating disorders.

"There were girls who had got messed up in the adult sex industry - a real range of problems, some incorporating actual psychiatric illness, others just dealing with messy lives, and the approach to all those problems was the same format," Johnson says.

Counselling involved working through a white folder containing pre-scripted prayers.

"Most of the staff were current Bible studies or Bible college students, and that is it, if anything. You just cannot play around with mental illness when you do not know what you are doing. Even professionals will acknowledge that it is a huge responsibility working in that field, and that is people who have six years, eight years university study behind them."

And while there was nothing that was formally termed "exorcism" in the Sydney house, Naomi was forced to stand in front of two counsellors while they prayed and spoke in tongues around her. In her mind, it was an exorcism. "I felt really stupid just standing there - they weren't helping me with the things going on in my head. I would ask staff for tools on how to cope with the urges to self harm … and the response was: 'What scriptures are you standing on? Read your Bible."

Johnson had grown up in a Christian family; her belief in God was not the issue; anorexia and self harm were. "A major sticking point was when they told me I needed to receive the holy Spirit in me and speak in tongues, to raise my hands in worship songs and jump up and down on the spot in fast songs. I told them that I really didn't understand how jumping up and down to a fast song at church was going to fix the anorexia, and yet that was a big, big sticking point, because it showed I was being resistant, cynical and holding back."

Her mother, Julie Johnson, watches as she talks, anxious about the effect of her daughter's decision to tell her story, yet immensely proud of her courage.

"Naomi was very determined to find somewhere that could help her. We didn't have private health cover, so our resources were limited, so she searched the net and came across Mercy Ministries," Julie Johnson says.

"It sounded very promising … she went off to Mercy a very positive young lady who finally had some hope that she was going to come back completely free of this eating disorder."

And the family was excited, too, pleased that there was someone who could help their daughter beat anorexia. "But unfortunately it didn't work out that way. They gave her hope and told her they would never give up on her but … in the end she got quite distraught that she was never able to please them."

Johnson sent her parents a letter telling them she was not very well and that she was very confused with the kind of program Mercy Ministries was running.

"I called and spoke to her counsellor in person," Julie Johnson said. "She told me that Naomi was lying to me, that Naomi was just rebelling … she was making the wrong choices."

But instead of taking her mother's concerns on board, the staff punished Naomi for disclosing anything about her time at the Sydney home.

"They told me that what happens in Mercy stays in Mercy, that what happens between the staff and Naomi stays at Mercy. It is not let out to the family," Julie Johnson said. "We were isolated, we were not involved in her progress at Mercy, we were just excluded and yet we were a family that wanted to be behind her and they wouldn't allow us to be."

The situation came to a head when Johnson returned to the Sydney house after spending Christmas with her family in Perth. She was told she had been seen smoking at the airport and that she was being expelled from the program. Naomi phoned her mother in tears, and the staff informed her they were putting her on the next plane back to Perth.

"She was distraught; she was an absolute mess; her life was in danger. I could hear it, she was capable of anything, the anxiety was so extreme … she was just out of control," Julie Johnson said. "I said to them, 'There is no way you are going to send her

back on her own, she is suicidal. You will deliver her to me at the airport when I can get a flight over'."

Mrs Johnson flew to Sydney to collect her daughter.

"She went into that place as a young lady and came back to us as a child. She was very confused, like she was 12 or 13. She shut herself in the bedroom and thought she was nothing but evil. Her self-esteem went down. She thought, 'I may as well die."'

Johnson, now 24, and her mother, know how close the end had been.

The executive manager of programs with Mercy Ministries, Judy Watson, is proud of the organisation's achievements, and rejects the claim that there are no staff qualified in psychiatry, psychology or counselling.

It appears that there is one registered psychologist at Mercy's Sydney house, although the Herald understands that the little contact she has with the residents is around scriptures, not psychological care. She did not respond to a request for an interview.

In a written statement, Watson said: "Mercy Ministries counselling staff are required to have tertiary education and qualifications in counselling, social work or psychology. Staff also participate in externally provided supervision from psychologists."

Yet she was unable to detail what qualifications each staff member had, or how many had qualifications beyond their one registered psychologist.

On the allegations that young women are denied medical and psychiatric care, Watson had this to say: "Residents' mental and physical health concerns are taken very seriously, and appropriate treatment is made available.

"Mercy Ministries provides a range of services to young women in the program. Mercy Ministries provides services through either health professionals employed by Mercy Ministries, subcontracted to provide services to residents at Mercy Ministries, or taken to specialists at their practice."

Rhiannon Canham-Wright and Megan Smith (not her real name) are two others who have suffered at the hands of Mercy Ministries, this time in the group's Sunshine Coast house.

Smith had also been at university before she went into the Mercy Ministries house. She had been diagnosed with anxiety disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder, and thought a residential program with medical and psychiatric care would help get her illnesses under control. Yet almost from the moment she arrived she began to struggle.

Sitting in the courtyard of a cafe in a large, central Queensland town, as storm clouds gathered above, she told her story in a soft, quiet voice. Like Johnson, she is fiercely intelligent and articulate, focused and determined. She described her mental illness growing quickly out of control the longer she was subjected to the cruel, illogical treatment in the Sunshine Coast house.

"I was pulling my hair out - it's a condition called trichotillomania," said Smith, now 29. "However, it wasn't bad before Mercy. I let the staff know about it because suddenly it had got a lot worse. Instead of taking me to the doctor to where I could have got assessed and got some medication, they just told me to forget about it."

Her condition worsened without treatment, but she had no way of getting any medical care because the house was locked down most of the time.

"To take the rubbish bin out to the footpath we had to get special permission. If we stepped over the boundary we were kicked out of the program because it was treated as absconding. Even to go to the toilet or brush our teeth we had to have specific permission. It was such a sterile environment. We were not allowed to talk about our feelings, there was no family support, no friend's support, and no professional support."

Before long, Smith began to harm herself in other ways. Again she alerted the staff to her concerns. They reprimanded her for wasting their time, calling her a "fruitcake", she said.

"The [staff member] said I was attention seeking, bringing negative energy to the environment and taking her valuable time away from girls who really need her.

"With this particular staff member, I know she had issues in the past, because she used to talk about it with the girls. She was open about it because she thought that was how God qualified her for the work that she did.

"But she had mood swings and anger problems. She would go from calm and normal to aggressively angry very quickly."

Again, there was no medical treatment, just Bible studies and prayer reading, relentless cleaning and many rules that were often only revealed to residents when they broke one of them.

"I went to a residential place that said they help people with mental illness using qualified professionals, [instead] going there took away my help. Even the GP they took me to to get my prescriptions filled was their GP, who they said had been specifically chosen because they were supportive of 'the Mercy way'. I wasn't allowed to talk to the doctor by myself; they had a staff member or volunteer with us at all times."

Asked to name the most valuable thing she learned in Mercy Ministries, she said, without hesitation and with much mirth: "cleaning".

"I am no domestic goddess, so I needed all the help I could get."

In both the Sydney and the Sunshine Coast house residents were prohibited from talking about their past, what brought them to Mercy, their struggles and problems.

"We were threatened with being kicked out if we did disclose anything," Smith said. "It was a lot to do with control and manipulation, and it just shows that they did have that power over us. We could have talked and rebelled but we were so scared of them and just so desperate for help.

"I was really sucked in. That was my world; it was locked down 24/7, so anything the staff said I believed to be the truth."

By the time Smith was expelled from Mercy, three months into her six-month stay, she was a mess. She was locked in a room and told she was not worth helping, she said, then driven to the airport and left alone to wait for a flight to her central Queensland home.

A family member met her at the airport. He had been told, incorrectly, by Mercy staff that Smith had chosen to leave. He was unprepared for the state she was in when she arrived.

"She was extremely upset. She didn't want to come back at all … she was in a real mess," said the relative, who did not want to be identified. "I was extremely fearful that she was likely to commit suicide. It was an extreme shock that this ministry we all had decided was the real deal had turned out to be a worse problem … it left her in a worse state than she had ever been in before."

For two years just keeping her alive became a full-time job, he said. "Whenever she was alone for any length of time it was always a fear that she may not be alive when you got back. When you did get back there were quite a lot of times when she had a knife and she had been scratching her wrists."

Since then Smith has received effective psychological care and is no longer at risk of self-harm or suicide. After more than a year of searching the internet, she found one other woman who had been at Mercy, using the social networking site Facebook. That is Canham-Wright, 26, another former resident of the Sunshine Coast house.

Canham-Wright, now living in Darwin with her daughter, 1, and her partner, describes every day as a struggle since she was thrown out of Mercy, after living there from July 2003 until the following March.

She had gone into Mercy Ministries just after her 21st birthday following a drug overdose and suffering bipolar disorder. Soon after she was in conflict with staff over her regular medication.

Canham-Wright has asthma, and yet she was prevented from having her ventolin with her at all times, she said.

"Every time I had an asthma attack they told me to stop acting … I was punished, I had to do an assignment about why God believes that lying is wrong.

"I was told, 'You still have demons to battle with. Satan still has a huge control over your life. That is when the exorcism and the prayers over my life started."

She got to the point where she no longer knew herself or what she believed in.

"They would call me into their office, saying that I was just make-believing and trying to get attention, and they would start praying over me. They would always pray for Satan to be dismissed out of my body."

Every night there was a prayer meeting. "When someone wanted to have something prayed about in particular, we would all have to lay hands and the staff member … would perform an exorcism."

You will find a donation box and pamphlet in every Gloria Jeans store soliciting donations for Mercy Ministries. "Your spare change helps transform a life," the pamphlet reads.

Yet few who donate to Mercy understand they are giving money to fund exorcisms in a program that removes young women from proven medical therapies and places them in the hands of a house full of amateur counsellors. Its literature claims to have a 90 per cent success rate - yet nowhere does it publish any results.

The allegations by Johnson, Canham-Wright, Smith and others indicates the program cannot lay claim to such a success rate.

The internet is littered with other young women making similar allegations about the Mercy Ministries program.

One young woman wrote in January: "I have been to Mercy Ministries - I have seen so many girls hurt and abused there, it is really sickening. Many girls are also kicked out and leave there far worse off than before they went to get help."

Another replied: "Mercy Ministries operates off the grid, and therefore can abuse and harm young women who go there."

And yet Mercy continues to operate without the scrutiny of government authorities, under the radar and with impunity.


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1. Comment #144995 by bugaboo on March 17, 2008 at 6:43 am

The dark ages.

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2. Comment #144997 by Gibster on March 17, 2008 at 6:47 am

I'm from Perth. The heat isn't "relentless". It relents for a few months during winter...

I'm so sad to hear this story from someone from my home town. There aren't many overly religious people in Oz, but the ones that are, do sometimes go overboard....

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3. Comment #145001 by rogerthat on March 17, 2008 at 6:54 am

 avatarI've also had similar experiences to these poor girls. There's just too much to go into, but I know exactly where they are coming from - especially the way I still feel, on some level, that I'm disappointing someone.

One difference though is that my experience contributed to drug abuse and chronic depression and anxiety which I'm only now (16 years later) finally recovering from. How do I go about getting all those wasted years back? I cannot.

For all Australians reading this article, please, at the very least, boycott Gloria Jeans coffee shops. I'm currently thinking about what else we can do.

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4. Comment #145009 by Gibster on March 17, 2008 at 7:06 am

This story sounds quite like stories coming from the cult of scientology to me.

My girlfriend used to love Gloria Jeans.. And they did a white hot chocolate which was fairly agreeable. Well, we have to make sacrifices.

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5. Comment #145010 by Geoff on March 17, 2008 at 7:06 am

 avatarTruly evil. Surely there's some form of legal action that can be taken against them?

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6. Comment #145029 by irate_atheist on March 17, 2008 at 7:34 am

 avatarMy usual epithet applies. Only more so.

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7. Comment #145036 by Healyhatman on March 17, 2008 at 7:43 am

I will also be personally boycotting Gloria Jean's - which is okay I usually prefer Starbuck's anyway. Although GJ's DOES have the Voltage drink (coffee, ice, milk, and chunks of coffee beans)...

But I don't want to be buying things from people related to bullshit like this.

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8. Comment #145058 by GBile on March 17, 2008 at 8:07 am

 avatarOk, irate ...

Fucktardettes !

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9. Comment #145080 by Partisan on March 17, 2008 at 8:22 am

 avatarI smell an impending law suit...

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10. Comment #145115 by Apathy personified on March 17, 2008 at 9:16 am

 avatarPure evil.
I'm normally of the opinion that morality can be quite relative and you have to judge each case individually. However, this one, is just pure inhumanity, such disgusting treatment of other people.

What's their angle, is somebody making money out of this, or is it just sadism to the worst limit?

Any Australians, please boycott that coffee place until it stops helping this organisation.

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11. Comment #145189 by ScareCrow on March 17, 2008 at 10:50 am

 avatarArgh i get so upset by this kinda stuff i can't think straight!

This proves Sam Harris' point about moderates allowing the extremes to roam freely. Those people running that hellhole would be inmates in a similar clinic if they had lived in Norway.

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12. Comment #145232 by 4horsefins on March 17, 2008 at 11:43 am

 avatarOrganizations like these have flourished for at least 2000 years using the same tactics. Go in search for the most desperate humans, promise free care, for the low low price of your soul, plus 10% before taxes.

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13. Comment #145237 by liberalartist on March 17, 2008 at 11:47 am

 avatarChristopher Hitchens said it best...pure poison!

This place sounds like a cult. I wonder if they get tax exemption in Australia?

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14. Comment #145245 by stephenray on March 17, 2008 at 11:56 am

It's interesting that people who are apparently atheists will use the word 'evil' so freely.

It's a religious concept, guys. Evil on the one side, grace on the other.

What these people at Mercy Ministries are, is IGNORANT. They also appear to be LACKING IN COMPASSION, which is a problem since Christianity, if anything separates it from other religions, is compassionate.

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15. Comment #145255 by Pattern Seeker on March 17, 2008 at 12:20 pm

 avatarComment #145189 by ScareCrow
"Argh i get so upset by this kinda stuff i can't think straight!"

I totally agree.

Let's put it this way-
I don't have the best relations with the members of my family (partly because of my lack of belief), but I can say that if they did anything like this to any member of my family, the next day they would awaken to a burned down ministry.

People who take advantage of the sick and mentally ill should be granted "No Mercy!"

Pun Intended.

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16. Comment #145283 by Fiesoduck on March 17, 2008 at 1:00 pm

 avatarThat is so disgusting, I have no words.

(Not the article, but what these "Mercy" frakheads did and do to these women.)

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17. Comment #145322 by Apathy personified on March 17, 2008 at 1:31 pm

 avatarstephenray,
Clearly we are using a different definition of evil, than your religious one. No, it's not 'Evil on the one side, grace on the other', that's a very retardedly simplistic argument to make.
I define this as evil because the people running this, who should know better as they claim to be advocates of forgiveness love an all the rest, are deliberately torturing these vunerable young women for their own ends.
Also, claiming christianity is compassionate and that these people are only ignorant, i hope you are better than that, don't you dare even think about defending their actions, especially on religious grounds.

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18. Comment #145381 by sarah95 on March 17, 2008 at 2:18 pm

 avatar
"It is difficult to explain, in a logical sense. I know how very wrong the treatment, their program and their approach is, but the wounds are still quite deep, and even though I know that they were wrong, there is still a part of you that just even now wants to be accepted by Mercy."

"They told me that what happens in Mercy stays in Mercy, that what happens between the staff and Naomi stays at Mercy. It is not let out to the family," Julie Johnson said. "We were isolated, we were not involved in her progress at Mercy, we were just excluded and yet we were a family that wanted to be behind her and they wouldn't allow us to be."

"She went into that place as a young lady and came back to us as a child. She was very confused, like she was 12 or 13. She shut herself in the bedroom and thought she was nothing but evil. Her self-esteem went down. She thought, 'I may as well die."'

Before long, Smith began to harm herself in other ways. Again she alerted the staff to her concerns. They reprimanded her for wasting their time, calling her a "fruitcake", she said.

Canham-Wright has asthma, and yet she was prevented from having her ventolin with her at all times, she said.
"Every time I had an asthma attack they told me to stop acting … I was punished, I had to do an assignment about why God believes that lying is wrong.

And yet Mercy continues to operate without the scrutiny of government authorities, under the radar and with impunity.


Absolutely sickening. Especially the last part. That's what I really fear, is the fact that these people could potentially never be prosecuted and their facilities shut down. I have athsma, and if someone denied me my inhaler while I was unstable, I can't even think of what I would do. How the hell can someone be expected to deal with issues of mental illness when even breathing takes effort? My dad's an immunologist, and he's had young female patients with athsma die when anxiety problems threw them off. To deny someone like that medication....I can't imagine. And all the other abuses listed. I would hope that someone does a TV expose and a pressure campaign on the govt to "crack down" as it were and prosecute and shut down the place.

I agree with Gibster. This sounds a lot like the crazy Scientology programs that deny mentally ill people their medication. In the case of Scientology, we know of people that have died/killed, but I certainly hope that can be prevented in this case.

This is a perfect example of what Dawkins meant in TGD by psychological harm outstripping physical harm done by religion. And of course, moderates will cry out, "Oh, but this isn't REALLY religion, Jesus would never want THIS to happen. They're just fanatics." Then the rational response would be, "OK, if they're dangerous fanatics, then why don't we intervene, prosecute, and shut the place down?" And of course, the moderate reply would be, "Oh, but you can't legislate against someone's religious beliefs, even if they're fringe. We need to be tolerant. Big bad government shouldn't be meddling in religious affairs."

I hear that kind of non-thinking displayed all the time by moderates. They simultaneously call the fanatics "not REALLY a religion" and say that their fanaticism is not to be blamed on religion, and then go on to defend them from prosecution and regulation by saying it's a "religious matter" that the government can't meddle in.

I understand that moderates don't actually commit the same crimes that fanatics do, but they excuse them way too easily, through processes of non-thought and bias.

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19. Comment #145420 by secondsoprano on March 17, 2008 at 2:57 pm

This place sounds like a cult. I wonder if they get tax exemption in Australia?


According to the Sydney Morning Herald (which is doing an "expose" series on these creeps), both Mercy Ministries, and the associated Hillsong Church have tax exempt status, and earn millions of dollars [yes, fellow Australian taxpayers, that's OUR money!!].

In the letters to the editor page today, a reader asserts that "Mercy Ministries is an affront to the Gospel" and that he is "appalled and ashamed that Christianity is associated with such horrendous practices".

I am so incandescent with rage about this whole thing that like scarecrow I can't think straight, nor write straight, so to speak. I really want to write a response that points out that this hideous, unspeakable brutality is EXACTLY what Christianity is about - brainwash people, tell them they are worthless sinners, take their money etc - but I can't calm down enough to write anything which would be published.

Is there a calm, articulate RD-net'er who could take up that challenge for me? (silly question. ... ;)

See these links for more details [my apologies if they don't work ... I'm not very good at this tech stuff. Go to smh.com.au & search "mercy" if I haven't done it right]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-business-of-giving-mercy/2008/03/17/1205602293116.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/why-mercy-ministries-was-godsent-for-hillsong/2008/03/17/1205602284113.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/hell-or-a-godsend-women-tell-their-stories/2008/03/17/1205602293125.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/they-sought-help-but-got-exorcism-and-the-bible/2008/03/16/1205602195048.html

Stay tuned ... tomorrow the Herald brings you "How Mercy Ministreies and Hillsong believe they can cure homosexuality" (Sadly, I am not making this up).

Australians tend to be rather smug when we hear about wacko US-Bible-belt god-botherers. "Only in America" we smile patronisingly. Unfortunately, stuff like this shows how wrong we are.

Edit: I almost wish I used to buy coffee from Gloria Jeans, just so I could boycott it now. But of course there are so many places in Australia to buy GOOD coffee. "Only in America" do they think that Gloria Jeans/Starbucks style dishwater is coffee...

[ducking incoming missiles from irate Americans... OK, OK, sorry! it was a joke!]

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20. Comment #145469 by Hobbit on March 17, 2008 at 4:00 pm

 avatarAs an Australian I was outraged to read about the fuckwits torturing some of the most vulnerable people in our community behind the masquerade of 'Religion'.

As for the Hillsong church, they are fast becoming a political force in our country. They are infiltrating the right wing political parties and have even had members elected to both state and federal parliament. They have styled themselves on the evangelical gospel giants of the American bible belt (such Haggert et al).

Even our Prime Minister is a God botherer, so don't expect any action soon on calling the religious iron age myth believers to account or making them pay their fare share of tax.

If you think that it is bad that the Mercy Morons and Hillsong get away tax free despite earning (read stealing from the ignorant) multi millions every year, think about this. In June this year, Sydney is hosting World Youth Day.

For those of you that are unaware of this farce, WYD is the Catholic churches version of the Olympics. The chief bloke in a frock (AKA the pope), will be coming to Sydney to attempt to brainwash as many young people from around the world as possible. They will be taking over large parts of the city with their medieval ceremonies etc.

The real kicker here is that, despite the enormous wealth of the Catholic Church, the tax payers of Australia will be subsiding this event to the tune of millions of dollars. And we are supposed to be grateful that it's on our door. We are supposed to be part of the "spiritual" awaking and ignore the massive disruption to the normal activities of Australia's largest city.

I am like secondsoprano; I can't boycott GJ's as I can't stand their weak as piss American style water that they pass of as coffee. I am traveling to the US several times this year for business and I am dreading the lukewarm slightly brown see through dirty river water that is passed of as coffee. Other than that, I quite enjoy my time in the US.

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21. Comment #145508 by rod-the-farmer on March 17, 2008 at 4:57 pm

 avatarCannot the local Oz authorities investigate this place for performing quasi-medical treatment without a license ? Surely there are real doctors who have seen the results of their treatment, and who can apply pressure to the appropriate levels of government ?

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22. Comment #145518 by Bluff_King_Hal on March 17, 2008 at 5:05 pm

It was good to see this as it fomrs the perfecdt counterpoint to an Op-Ed that basically advocated Christian Demonology to superced psychiatry. I've fwded it to the list I saw the latter on. I though the latter might make a good submission here. Anyone able to tell me how to sumbit articles for publication?

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23. Comment #145539 by Koreman on March 17, 2008 at 5:31 pm

/D'Souze mode on/

Please remember that only 25 people were executed during the Salem witch trials. And atheists perform exorcism too. They ban the Lord from their hearts, which is much more serious than anything else.

/mode off/

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24. Comment #145560 by oshottan on March 17, 2008 at 5:54 pm

Reading this article made me furious. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I have been fantasizing about torturing the people who run that hellhole. I hope that they all have horrible lives. Almost as upsetting is the people who will read about this disgusting institution and still support it and come up with lame excuses about how they are just trying to help people and have only love in their hearts.

Anyway, Koreman, that was a clever comment, funny, too.

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25. Comment #145565 by Barbara on March 17, 2008 at 5:58 pm

 avatarA spokesperson from each of the 15 sects of Christianity in my area were asked to read, and comment on, the above article. The unanimous opinion given is paraphrased below:

Whatever God the people at Mercy Ministries prays to is not the God we worship. It is our opinion that those people are not 'true' Christians.

[/fictitious story]

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26. Comment #145604 by GordonYKWong on March 17, 2008 at 7:19 pm

 avatarRE: 19. Comment #145420 by secondsoprano on March 17, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Crap, I accidentally click on the "offensive" link on your post. Please explain to Josh I did it accidentally. Sorry.

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27. Comment #145605 by rogerthat on March 17, 2008 at 7:19 pm

 avatar@secondsoprano:

I'm also, just as you say, 'incandescent with rage'. I know just what that feels like to be so debilitated with rage that you can't think or act.

But act we surely must. I know of a few Hillsong apologists. They are my friends (or, at least, acquaintances). I know of RD's argument to religious moderates, but some of these are young people who probably won't understand.

What do I do? Anyone? I feel so helpless in the face of it all sometimes. Actually, often.

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28. Comment #145617 by dragonfirematrix on March 17, 2008 at 7:44 pm

 avatarI see The Dark Age Neanderthalistic mentality of religion still breeds. For the sake of all humanity, we must find a cure for religion.

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29. Comment #145621 by secondsoprano on March 17, 2008 at 7:55 pm

RE: 19. Comment #145420 by secondsoprano on March 17, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Crap, I accidentally click on the "offensive" link on your post. Please explain to Josh I did it accidentally. Sorry.


No offence taken. No sure what, if anything I or Josh need to do about this, but thanks for letting me know :)

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30. Comment #145640 by theantitheist on March 17, 2008 at 8:58 pm

 avatarIt's all fine boycotting Gloria Jeans Coffee shops, but they won't notice unless you tell them you are and why.

You can forward your complaints and comments to them at

http://www.gloriajeanscoffees.com.au/pages/content.asp?pid=74

My comments to them are:

"Further to the recent articles in the Sydney Morning Herald regarding the Mercy Ministries and your support of them I have started boycotting your store, please be aware that I am not alone in my boycott. I beleive that your support of a religious organization that promotes phycological healing and help without any proper credentials is highly irresponsible and unacceptable. Your intentions may have been good, however lending your name and support to an organisation that you have not vetted allows you to be implicated and also share in it's responsibilities to the people it preports to help and in reality damages.

You may actually be aware of the situation and if you were then your organisation can be called accountable, if not then i suggest you use this oppurtunity to assess the situation and distance yourself publically from this organisation".

If you wish to contact me when you have removed your support then i shall return to your shops.

Regards,

Leon Andrews"

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31. Comment #145647 by secondsoprano on March 17, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Thanks for the prompt Leon. I have added my comments to the feedback form on the link you provided, and I encourage others to do the same.

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32. Comment #145651 by rogerthat on March 17, 2008 at 10:24 pm

 avatarOk I've sent GJ's an email letting them know. I used your text as a basis if that's ok, antitheist. However, I corrected some spelling (no offence intended at all, I guess I'm just a stickler for it). I think it is worded very well, by the way. Thanks for your efforts.

Here is what I submitted (in case anyone lazy like me wants to copy/paste it:

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Further to the recent articles in the Sydney Morning Herald regarding the Mercy Ministries and your support of them I have started boycotting your store, please be aware that I am not alone in my boycott.

I believe that your support of a religious organisation that promotes psychological healing and help without any proper credentials is highly irresponsible and unacceptable. Your intentions may have been good, however lending your name and support to an organisation that you have not vetted allows you to be implicated and also share in it's responsibilities to the people it purports to help and in reality damages.

You may actually be aware of the situation and if you were then your organisation can be called accountable, if not then i suggest you use this opportunity to assess the situation and distance yourself publicly from this organisation.
--

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33. Comment #145652 by windweaver on March 17, 2008 at 10:57 pm

 avatarGloria Jeans is owned by two Hillsong church elders. Hillsong is a pentecostal megachurch enterprise with increasing political power. They're anti-evolution, speak in tongues etc etc. I wouldn't buy a coffee at GJs under any circumstances regardless of whether they're associated with Mercy Ministries.

The 'Gloria Jeans' coffee franchise, founded and run in Australia by Hillsong members Peter Irvine and Nabi Saleh, has reached even higher into the upper echelons of success in Australia, but have found some of the links with Hillsong to be mixed blessings.

In speaking of the success of Gloria Jeans, Peter Irvine boasts:

"We now have over 750 stores across 30 countries… We have won the Franchise Council of Australia's 2005 Franchisor of the Year, the 2006 national Retailer of the Year and the 2006 Emerging Exporter of the Year award."

In 2006 these stores brewed more than 50 million cups of coffee, and the number of Gloria Jeans stores in Australia is now more than 400. It is without doubt a remarkably successful business.

And yet this silver lining has a dark cloud attached through its links to Mercy Ministries, a charity launched by Hillsong worship leader Darlene Zschech and whose Executive Director is Gloria Jeans' Peter Irvine.

Last month employees of Borders Bookstores, in which Gloria Jeans coffee outlets are located, expressed concern that they were required to promote Mercy Ministries in October's 'Cuppacino for a Cause' day.

Employee concern centred around the perceived anti-abortion and anti-gay stance of Mercy Ministries, a Christian charity who aims to support young women facing difficulties. According to Crikey, the Mercy Ministries website suggests that young women with unplanned pregnancies are not given the option of abortion by the organisation.

More bluntly Tanya Levin, former Hillsong member and author of 'People in Glass Houses: An insider's story of a life in & out of Hillsong,' claims that Mercy Ministries is "completely anti-gay and completely pro-life. That's why it was established."

The debate over abortion and homosexuality is usually played out through the medium of mainstream politics. Through Gloria Jeans and Mercy Ministries, however, we see the cultural politics of Hillsong played out in a wider economic and cultural realm.


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34. Comment #145654 by theantitheist on March 17, 2008 at 11:16 pm

 avatarRogerout: Don't worry my spellings crap and i'm aware of it. Normally i'll run it through word but i'm being lazy today.

Widweaver: Is that quote by Peter Irving finishing at succesful buisness or is it him talking about the dark cloud??

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35. Comment #145656 by windweaver on March 17, 2008 at 11:28 pm

 avatartheantitheist, Peter Irving is only speaking about GJs being a successful business. He fully supports Mercy Ministries.

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36. Comment #145664 by theantitheist on March 18, 2008 at 12:17 am

 avatarGloria Jeans response to my email.

Dear Leon



Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We are deeply concerned with the recent media coverage related to our sponsorship of Mercy Ministries and association with the Hillsong Church and feel it is not reflective of what our business is all about.



Gloria Jean's Coffees is a company built on family and community values with the vision: "To be the most loved and respected coffee company in the World."



Our responsibility is to our Franchise Partners and our guests.



We are not religiously affiliated, or affiliated to any other beliefs or preferences. We are non-discriminatory and accept staff, franchise partners and guests from all walks of life.



We believe as a truly responsible corporate citizen, that we should have a positive impact on the communities from were we source our coffee and the communities we serve. Our values include: "Belief in people, building and changing lives".



Our sponsorship of many international and local charities including Mercy Ministries is based on giving back to the communities who have helped us become the brand we are today, there are no hidden agendas.



We assessed Mercy Ministries along with many other potential charity partners several years ago now and found that their work transforming the lives of young women in crisis was a good fit with our vision, mission and values.



Our corporate donations amount to approximately $150,000 â€" $170,000 per annum plus the donations made by the public through the money boxes in stores.



Since then we have seen many young women's lives transformed for the better. We have regularly visited Mercy Ministries homes to meet with the residents.



All our Franchise Partners in Australia have the opportunity to do this as well as all our Master Franchise Partners from the 29 other countries in which we serve coffee. We have several Mercy Ministries graduates working in and making a positive contribution to Gloria Jean's Coffees both in our stores and support office.



We have been in direct discussion with Mercy Ministries and we will be working with them to understand what elements of their program could have given rise to these very concerning claims. We would encourage any member of the public that is concerned to review their response to these allegations on their website at www.mercyministries.com.au



Many of the issues facing these young women are not easily fixed. While the vast majority of young women succeed in the program, there are those few for which this program is not the answer. Clearly they have the right to give their views.



We believe this however should not outweigh the positive impact Mercy Ministries has had on the lives of many young women. By removing our sponsorship without due diligence, we would be removing our support for the many young women dealing with eating disorders, unplanned pregnancies, abuse and other life controlling issues that are in desperate need for help to turn their lives around.



We have no relationship with the Hillsong Church. Gloria Jean's Coffees is an Australian-owned private company and there are no financial or legal ties between Gloria Jean's Coffees and Hillsong Church. This remains unchanged.



The religious affiliation of our management, staff, Franchise Partners, charity partners has absolutely no relevance to how we operate our company. Our responsibility is to our Franchise Partners, our guests and the quality of our coffee.



Thank you for your concern, we really do take your thoughts & feelings to heart in trying to ensure we serve you in the best way possible and in our journey to become the most loved & respected coffee house worldwide.



Yours faithfully,



Dianne Baise Guest Relations Officer

Gloria Jean's Coffees


Bit of a whitewash really, the ones that they do help are thouse who's wills have been broken and do as there told it sounds like. However without meeting these people and finding out for myself i'm not going to call it complete bollocks.

More information is nneded but it reminds me of "The Family" a cult who gained similair support from wealthy individuals. Read "Not without my sister" for an understanding into what type of places these are. Thouharily recommend it (Rogerout that spelling mistakes for you.)

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37. Comment #145673 by flibble on March 18, 2008 at 1:23 am

Hmmm, there's a Gloria Jeans recently opened up over the road from my office (in Nottingham, UK). I haven't been in yet because I'm not much of a consumer of "trendy coffee" - I much prefer a good strong cup of tea - I am English after all ;)

However I know a lot of people from my office have, including a couple of gay guys, and many more that would self identify as being VERY liberal. I shall make sure I inform them of this outfit's fundie links. I just checked the UK website and they're supporting Mercy Ministries over here too.

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38. Comment #145707 by vijikumar on March 18, 2008 at 2:59 am

Leon
Thanks for the prompt.

I've sent similar comments to GJ in the UK and Australia. Depressing, very depressing.

P.S. Is the coffee any good?

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39. Comment #145718 by rogerthat on March 18, 2008 at 3:28 am

 avatar@vijikumar: No.

@antitheist: thanks for the spelling to cheer me up. Oh, and it's rogerthat, not rogerout. Damn! I did it again...

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40. Comment #145735 by theantitheist on March 18, 2008 at 4:09 am

 avatarRogerthat: Apologies, serves me right for quickly writing messages at work on small screens.

Flibble: English too and there are some very nice teas to have in the afternoon with our scones.

I do like the reply of thats not our religous views that we support ........ thats an 'extremist' point of view that we've asked our extremist to clarify for us and to onvince the media that it's all blown out of proportion.

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41. Comment #145741 by lievemebe on March 18, 2008 at 4:27 am

Beware Australia. I have heard the prime minister of Australia say on radio that he favours religious groups having a bigger voice in parliament by way of moral advice.

I have also sent an email expressing concerns to Gloria Jeans coffee shop. I will be alerting my friends about this.

Thanks people, for alerting me.

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42. Comment #145747 by vijikumar on March 18, 2008 at 4:43 am

E-mail reply from the training director GJ UK to say:
we are not on the Board at Mercy and are sponsors of Mercy Ministries as part of our National Franchise Agreement.
I am waiting for a reply from Australia regarding this article and will reply to you as soon as I have received this

Additionally wanted to know the source and I have sent them the link to the Ruth Pollard article at the SMH.

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43. Comment #145771 by irate_atheist on March 18, 2008 at 6:05 am

 avatar41. Comment #145741 by lievemebe -
Beware Australia. I have heard the prime minister of Australia say on radio that he favours religious groups having a bigger voice in parliament by way of moral advice.
Indeed. And if this is true, he is a first class fucktard. Remember folks - you read it here first.

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44. Comment #145786 by rogerthat on March 18, 2008 at 6:27 am

 avatarLatest:

I received the same form reply. It seems to be very carefully worded, and seems to dodge many of the issues without explicitly stating that it hasn't happened. Quite a piece of... word-smithery.

However, I'm happy to report that Rebel Sport (sporting goods chain), Bunnings Warehouse (hardware chain) and LG Electronics have all removed, or are considering removing, their sponsorship from Mercy Ministries.
http://tinyurl.com/yq7w67

The Australian Medical Association has also condemned them, and the Federal Minister for Human Services, Joe Ludwig, has asked Centrelink (Australian social security agency) to investigate the allegations and report on its pay arrangements with Mercy Ministries.
http://tinyurl.com/29cfoh

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45. Comment #145788 by rogerthat on March 18, 2008 at 6:29 am

 avatarThe reply I received from Dianne Baise states "We have no relationship with the Hillsong Church."

The founders of Gloria Jeans are Nabi Saleh and Peter Irvine. Nabi Saleh is an "elder" at Hillsong and is on it's board of directors. Peter Irvine, previously Managing Director of successful advertising agency DDB Needham(!), was, until recently, Managing Director of Gloria Jeans and is now Director of Corporate Sponsorship at Mercy Ministries.
http://tinyurl.com/34q5ew (see "Gloria be") & http://tinyurl.com/2s37ng

Peter Irvine also seems to be quite the shrewd businessman.
http://www.prirvine.com/

Finally, check out how close the Hillsong Church at Baulkham Hills and the Gloria Jeans address supplied to me by Dianne Baise are: http://tinyurl.com/26xx7w

Apparently there is also a Gloria Jeans training centre right next door to the Hillsong Church at Baulkham Hills.

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46. Comment #145790 by Rover on March 18, 2008 at 6:30 am

Oh my GOD!

I'm boycotting Gloria Jeans!

I can't believe they endorse that bullshit...are they unaware what it involves? If so, then they need to completely disassociate themselves from it. Even from a business perspective, the connection is going to hurt their brand image because the related associations are not POSITIVE!

Sales will decline from those customers who are now in the know...and they'll tell others.

I can't believe this...and no, I won't go just for the coffee, I'm sure there's somewhere else that will do just fine. LOL.

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47. Comment #145793 by Rover on March 18, 2008 at 6:32 am

The Australian Medical Association has also condemned them, and the Federal Minister for Human Services, Joe Ludwig, has asked Centrelink (Australian social security agency) to investigate the allegations and report on its pay arrangements with Mercy Ministries.
__________

LMAO!! that will put a fire under their arse!

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48. Comment #145799 by black wolf on March 18, 2008 at 6:41 am

 avatarEvery time something like this comes up, I wonder why companies still support any group that claims to help people by applying religion. Every single time a religious organization has been active in 'treating' mentally unstable people in the past, cases of mistreatment and abuse have occurred sooner or later. It's always that same old meme of assuming them to be morally superior do-gooders with a divine calling. After centuries of proven fraudulence, sadism, sexual abuse and personal profiteering, generally removing the unwarranted presumption of respect for religious orgs is long overdue. From the ancient god-kings to medieval churches to modern ministries, when will humanity learn that they must be continually and rigorously investigated and supervised?

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49. Comment #145822 by Incredulous on March 18, 2008 at 7:22 am

Religion has always touted itself as the experts on the mind. There are far too many examples of this and other abuses of vulnerable people for this assertion to be taken at all seriously.

Tom Cruise has recently stated that his religion know the human mind. He is a celebrity and therefore has kudos and influence amongst those who are credulous and lazy.

There must be a concerted effort made to ensure these crazies are not allowed anywhere near those who have needs except in a very basic way.

It is clear the faithful, far from being the solution to mental health problems, are a cause and further exacerbate these issues.

These people must not be allowed to get away with the ignorant nonsense any longer; it may also be time for those political leaders and movers and shakers who so like to peddle their psuedo moral credentials to be encouraged to promote rational, qualified and experience solution providers.

It's an absolute shame and indictment of the world we live in that first century mumbo jumbo is being proferred when 21st century solutions are available.

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50. Comment #145864 by rogerthat on March 18, 2008 at 8:43 am

 avatar
Every time something like this comes up, I wonder why companies still support any group that claims to help people by applying religion.


And the unfortunate thing about this particular case is that (I'm beginning to get the impression) Gloria Jeans doesn't just sponsor Mercy Ministries, Gloria Jeans was brought to Australia by Nabi Saleh and Peter Irvine exclusively to fund Hillsong and it's operations. The name of the company they formed together that is now the parent company of Gloria Jeans? Jireh International Pty Ltd. Who'd like to guess what that means? http://tinyurl.com/2f9jhh

By the way, Jireh International now owns the rights to all Gloria Jeans' franchises worldwide, except in the USA and Puerto Rico.

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