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It would appear that Expelled's producer Mark Mathis was not being truthful when he told me tonight that Crossroads was a 'working title' for the film Expelled. As Wesley Elsberry points out, the domain for Expelled was purchased before most, if not all, of the interviews were conducted -- and yet Richard Dawkins, Eugenie Scott, PZ Myers, and others were told they were being interviewed for a film called Crossroads.
Mr. Mark Mathis, do you want to come here and explain yourself?
552. Comment #152679 by Jon_Sociologist on March 31, 2008 at 10:43 am
Comment #152109 by MPhil:
Well, we do differ from other animals in a way that our faculties of planning, designing technology and cultural artifacts does lift a very large portion of the selection pressure from us that our immediate ancestors had. Through no change in nature or genome, at least people in first-world countries have overcome some very serious elements of selections pressure - accessibility of food, of shelter, certain otherwise fatal diseases etc.
553. Comment #152680 by Jon_Sociologist on March 31, 2008 at 10:45 am
Comment #152669 by al-rawandi:
I have an ex-girlfriend who might be interested in those rats.
554. Comment #152683 by al-rawandi on March 31, 2008 at 10:47 am
555. Comment #152806 by alan baylis on March 31, 2008 at 3:02 pm
460. Comment #151071 by Dr Benway556. Comment #152826 by Skeptigirl on March 31, 2008 at 3:44 pm
562. Comment #152806 by alan baylis on March 31, 2008 at 3:02 pm557. Comment #152853 by PlagioClase on March 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm
What can be done about the awful inaccuracies in the curriculum and textbooks that still persist in kids' text books these days?558. Comment #153009 by Christopher Davis on March 31, 2008 at 8:59 pm
559. Comment #153124 by alan baylis on April 1, 2008 at 5:05 am
563. Comment #152826 by Skeptigirl560. Comment #153694 by Christopher Davis on April 1, 2008 at 8:54 pm
561. Comment #153700 by Dr Benway on April 1, 2008 at 9:21 pm
...took me ten minutes to figure out that the overlayed text wasn't GermanLOL. Kittehs not spell so gud.
562. Comment #153710 by dannyhouk on April 1, 2008 at 10:37 pm
(note, I only read page 1 comments and page 12 comments before posting, so no thread continuity in my comment)563. Comment #154014 by Aradan on April 2, 2008 at 11:41 am
There is an obvious flaw in the intelligent design argument that should have stopped Creationists in their tracks a long time ago…if they ever bothered to pause and think about the illogic of their argument.564. Comment #154025 by tomtex on April 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I have to object to the term "uniformed goon" Dawkin's anger at Mathis shouldn't be taken out on some poor security guard who just happens to work there. Such statements serve no purpose.565. Comment #154228 by MutualDisdain on April 3, 2008 at 12:07 am
I can't believe you have been tricked into promoting this movie much like you were tricked into giving interviews for it.566. Comment #154229 by MutualDisdain on April 3, 2008 at 12:12 am
Also, someone might want to look up the word concise. You have to know the average "non-fan" internet reader is going to barely parse any of your message. You should have written a succinct summary at the beginning of this article to feed the sound-byte whores, and your argument should have been framed out of logic instead of emotion. Honestly, if you just argued the facts without devolving to use ridicule, then I don't think any of Stein's henchmen could stand up to your arguments.567. Comment #154232 by MutualDisdain on April 3, 2008 at 12:17 am
Adaran, you are forgetting to address the most simple ID argument: If a designer created all of reality, then he/she/it most likely "exists" outside of the realm of reality. That means that there is no contradiction in omnipotence because, "God doesn't lift things" and that any interaction between God and this world would most likely be the result of an avatar.568. Comment #154243 by Christopher Davis on April 3, 2008 at 1:26 am
569. Comment #154450 by n8mobiles on April 3, 2008 at 9:36 am
Seriously, are you ten years old? Sounds like you got pushed over on the playground, and are trying to make it look like you "meant to do that!" Your blow-hard self important ego is in over drive here. No compassion, no interest in winning with intelect, your argument is "He pushed my friend, and brought a bigger guy!!" WAAAAA. This is not helping the Athiest cause, if you can't take the heat, get out of the profession. Does the film take a position against athiesm? Yes, Mr. Stien believes in God. Does your book take a position against Religion and God? Yes, you don't believe in God. But Athiests all take a hit when someone like you is SUPPOSED to be intelligent and reply with science, and above the fray, and instead cry "no fair!" when it was their own EGO that lead them into being in this movie. You fell for it hook, line and sinker. Now get over yourself and come up with a better response with your BRAIN. Thanks for NOT being the voice of Athiesm in the future.570. Comment #154464 by Steve Zara on April 3, 2008 at 10:12 am
This is not helping the Athiest cause, if you can't take the heat, get out of the profession.
But Athiests all take a hit when someone like you is SUPPOSED to be intelligent and reply with science, and above the fray, and instead cry "no fair!" when it was their own EGO that lead them into being in this movie.
571. Comment #154471 by al-rawandi on April 3, 2008 at 10:27 am
572. Comment #154476 by epeeist on April 3, 2008 at 10:33 am
They were deceived.No, they were lied to. Deceived is far too nice a word.
573. Comment #154481 by Diacanu on April 3, 2008 at 10:44 am
Seriously, are you ten years old?
574. Comment #154506 by NoNeedToLie on April 3, 2008 at 11:35 am
I have one comment to add to your interesting article-There has NEVER been nor will there EVER be a reason to lie for Jesus.575. Comment #154508 by al-rawandi on April 3, 2008 at 11:39 am
576. Comment #154512 by Quetzalcoatl on April 3, 2008 at 11:43 am
I have one comment to add to your interesting article-There has NEVER been nor will there EVER be a reason to lie for Jesus
577. Comment #154523 by Geoff on April 3, 2008 at 11:51 am
578. Comment #154526 by Steve Zara on April 3, 2008 at 11:55 am
There is a reason... it is all bullshit and it has to be lied about to maintain the soft fluffy fairytale.
579. Comment #154532 by al-rawandi on April 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm
580. Comment #154533 by The Krell on April 3, 2008 at 12:03 pm
The comment by RobDinsmore, although meant to be humourous, is misleading. Evolution is evolution. Darwin's name is linked to it only in so far as his studies are the most plausable explanation of its operation. Therefore, he is not responsible for Hitler anymore than Sigmund Freud is responsible everybody's psychological problems.581. Comment #154534 by ThoughtsonCommonToad on April 3, 2008 at 12:06 pm
582. Comment #154536 by ThoughtsonCommonToad on April 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm
583. Comment #154932 by brother john on April 4, 2008 at 2:14 am
Gordon Bennett!!!584. Comment #154953 by hungarianelephant on April 4, 2008 at 3:02 am
It just leaves me with a question: How on earth does a decent human being cope with with the depravity or idiocy humans are capable of?"
585. Comment #155758 by Vulcan on April 5, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Socrates,586. Comment #155783 by sdbranum on April 5, 2008 at 7:13 pm
So much vitriol and hate...587. Comment #155785 by Dr Benway on April 5, 2008 at 7:56 pm
588. Comment #155786 by Diacanu on April 5, 2008 at 7:57 pm
So much vitriol and hate...
589. Comment #155790 by eccles on April 5, 2008 at 8:18 pm
590. Comment #155799 by sdbranum on April 5, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Double Bass Atheist,591. Comment #155801 by sdbranum on April 5, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Diacanu, the fact that you asked is evidence you saw the same thing in all your buddies' posts that I saw. Thanks for validating my observation, as I made the statement as I did for this very purpose. You would have lied and said it wasn't true if I had stated exactly to what I was referring, but you fell for the trap and now can't pull that one. Again, thanks for proving my point, and now you can address the matter of hypocrisy that arises as a direct result from that validation. Or maybe you'll just avoid the debate, the same way "The Professor" has avoided debating these "stupid, ignorant or insane" people that waxed his butt in debate after debate, so much so that he decided to take his ball and go home, i.e. to here on this blog, where he can preach to his faithful following. Yes, he is the leader of YOUR religion, no matter how much you try to deny it. Whenever faced with information that goes against your closely held beliefs, you all respond the same way as a typical militant Muslim would if someone were to impugn Mohammed, no difference at all. What is amazing though is the absolute blindness required not to see that for yourselves.592. Comment #155845 by Quetzalcoatl on April 6, 2008 at 4:26 am
593. Comment #155847 by Steve Zara on April 6, 2008 at 4:36 am
Can anyone prove a Universal Negative who is not YHWH? My understanding of Logic is that you can not, for in order to KNOW that something doesn't exist anywhere or anywhen you would have to be everywhere and everywhen simultaniously which is one of the attributes of YHWH. Based on Logic, I submit that Athiesm is a "RELIGION" that relies on an adherance to "BLIND FAITH."
594. Comment #155849 by Quetzalcoatl on April 6, 2008 at 4:41 am
My understanding of Logic is that you can not, for in order to KNOW that something doesn't exist anywhere or anywhen you would have to be everywhere and everywhen simultaniously which is one of the attributes of YHWH
595. Comment #155867 by BillySands on April 6, 2008 at 7:12 am
Yes, he is the leader of YOUR religion, no matter how much you try to deny it.
596. Comment #155881 by sdbranum on April 6, 2008 at 8:04 am
And yet you needed eight. Plus a quote. Baaaaa.598. Comment #155885 by BillySands on April 6, 2008 at 8:36 am
And yet you needed eight. Plus a quote. Baaaaa.
599. Comment #155892 by BillySands on April 6, 2008 at 8:51 am
Child
600. Comment #155911 by Christopher Davis on April 6, 2008 at 9:42 am
551. Comment #152669 by al-rawandi on March 31, 2008 at 10:14 am
I have an ex-girlfriend who might be interested in those rats.
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