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Yes I have. You know, I respect you as a human being and you have done great work exposing psychics and frauds, but this is a very touchy issue that affects me and family emotionally. Our family business was affected because of Auschwitz because now, our family has nothing. It is gone. Things began to make sense once I saw the movie and I am just appalled. I have learned a lot from Ben Stein, a Jewish brother, who has opened my eyes up a bit.
Now I truly understand who you atheists and darwinists really are! You people believe that it was okay for my great-grandparents to die in the Holocaust! How disgusting. Your past article about the Holocaust was just window dressing. We Jews will fight to keep people like you out of the United States!Just look at those words of yours. Probably you regret them by now. I certainly hope so, but I'll continue to write my letter to you, on the assumption that you still feel at least a part of what you wrote.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.Hitler's obscene anti-Semitism was able to hold sway in Germany because there was a deeply embedded history of anti-Semitism in Germany, and indeed in Europe generally.
1752. Comment #172568 by TheTruthID on April 29, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Titania,1753. Comment #172608 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I stated that I had indirect frustrations in regards to the Evolution-ID debate, which are more philosophical in nature.
1754. Comment #172623 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Goldy: Have you mentioned what exactly it was about evolution that frustrated so? I should check through all the posts, I know...but I'm lazy :-)
1755. Comment #172624 by raghu_mani on April 29, 2008 at 7:44 pm
1754. Comment #172568 by TheTruthID
I would like to be forgiven for my conduct., but this is out of my control.
Finally, in my apology letter, I did not use the word problems. I stated that I had indirect frustrations in regards to the Evolution-ID debate, which are more philosophical in nature.
1756. Comment #172638 by MPhil on April 29, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I'd submit that this isn't exactly the best place for philisophical issues (unless you are talking philosophy of science).
1757. Comment #172644 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Can't help on the academic philosophical front, but can help on the general science thing.1758. Comment #172646 by MPhil on April 29, 2008 at 8:30 pm
(research strongly suggests any ID theory is wrong)
1759. Comment #172650 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Logic and philosophy of science are absolutely clear on the matter that ID isn't science, no testable predictions, no parsimony, either ending in an infinite regress or in the supernatural as an explanation for natural phenomena (category mistake and contrary to the methodological naturalism of science)
1760. Comment #172652 by MPhil on April 29, 2008 at 8:42 pm
1761. Comment #172656 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I don't understand why people who tell me there is only 1 god brindle at the mention of any other god. I mean, if there is only 1, why the fuss of others, who obviously don't exist (like, I must add, their own god :-))1762. Comment #172658 by MPhil on April 29, 2008 at 8:52 pm
1763. Comment #172659 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Indeed. Always a pisser to the system wen there's people like us who just don't think like we're told!1764. Comment #172662 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Goldy: with Darwin as some sort of Jesus figure
MPhil: I also don't quite get how the same people who say that religion has the answers, and is to be protected are the ones that attack Evoluton/Neo-Darwinism and Atheism as being some kind of religion, which it - of course - isn't.
1765. Comment #172663 by Brian English on April 29, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I also don't quite get how the same people who say that religion has the answers,and is to be protected are the ones that attack Evoluton/Neo-Darwinism and Atheism as being some kind of religion, which it - of course - isn't.
1766. Comment #172667 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Brian English: The closest thing they can find to fit the bill is evolution.
1767. Comment #172668 by Brian English on April 29, 2008 at 9:16 pm
1768. Comment #172669 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Brian English: Tosswad, I regularly add nothing to the conversation and do voluminously (sp?). :D
1769. Comment #172670 by Brian English on April 29, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Why do I have the feeling I'm going to regret that "tosswad" thing? :-)
1770. Comment #172673 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Surely Darwin=Yahweh and Dawkins=Jesus?
1771. Comment #172675 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 9:30 pm
EDIT: Incorrectly attributed to Brian English Goldy: Nah, think Darwin is Jesus and Dawkins maybe a Paul...though I don't think RD is a spin doctor like Paul.
1772. Comment #172678 by Brian English on April 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Brian English: Nah, think Darwin is Jesus and Dawkins maybe a Paul...though I don't think RD is a spin doctor like Paul.
1773. Comment #172679 by riandouglas on April 29, 2008 at 9:41 pm
1774. Comment #172710 by epeeist on April 30, 2008 at 1:05 am
(research strongly suggests any ID theory is wrong).Personally I would object to the word "theory" being associated with ID. At best it is a conjecture, it has no body of evidence associated with it, it makes no predictions that can be tested or falsified.
1775. Comment #172748 by Titania on April 30, 2008 at 3:30 am
1776. Comment #172806 by Titania on April 30, 2008 at 5:37 am
1777. Comment #172971 by GregR on April 30, 2008 at 8:07 am
Not only did the filmmakers resort to deception in order to gain "biased" interviews with several of the scientists in this film, they also used John Lennon's infamous song "Imagine" without permission, and Yoko Ono and Lennon's sons are suing.1778. Comment #173048 by Richard Morgan on April 30, 2008 at 9:10 am
For my friends on RDNet, especially S.Z, P.K. and B.E.1779. Comment #173052 by Elli on April 30, 2008 at 9:19 am
1780. Comment #173055 by Quetzalcoatl on April 30, 2008 at 9:24 am
1781. Comment #173056 by Elli on April 30, 2008 at 9:26 am
1782. Comment #173057 by al-rawandi on April 30, 2008 at 9:26 am
1783. Comment #173058 by Quetzalcoatl on April 30, 2008 at 9:30 am
1784. Comment #173060 by al-rawandi on April 30, 2008 at 9:36 am
1785. Comment #173062 by Geoff on April 30, 2008 at 9:40 am
The Evolutionary based books I have read, in which I have on me are:
-What Evolution Is (Ernst Mayr)
-The Evolutionists (Richard Morris)
-At The Water's Edge (Carl Zimmer)
In addition to articles and papers.
1786. Comment #173063 by Bonzai on April 30, 2008 at 9:44 am
GeoffBonzai, you were looking for biomorphs earlier:
http://physics.syr.edu/courses/mirror/biomorph/
1787. Comment #173080 by MaxD on April 30, 2008 at 10:12 am
1788. Comment #173082 by al-rawandi on April 30, 2008 at 10:14 am
1789. Comment #173086 by Bonzai on April 30, 2008 at 10:19 am
I think TruthID is honestly trying to ask questions, we shouldn't bear any grudge against him.1790. Comment #173088 by Geodesic17 on April 30, 2008 at 10:21 am
If ThruthID wants to understand where we are coming from, I see no harm in that. As long as he is here to learn it is cool by me if he hangs out here.1791. Comment #173096 by MaxD on April 30, 2008 at 10:33 am
I am so proud of your decision. It will be the only eternal one that counts!
1792. Comment #173105 by Bonzai on April 30, 2008 at 10:44 am
MaxD1793. Comment #173144 by MPhil on April 30, 2008 at 12:31 pm
The best way to spend out time
...humbled before the lord
1794. Comment #173206 by TheTruthID on April 30, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Titania,1795. Comment #173227 by Tad Trenton's Ghost on April 30, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Here is what I posted on Sam Harris:1796. Comment #173244 by Goldy on April 30, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I just got back from seeing Expelled. My opinion is that Ben Stein has made a very effective movie for his propaganda
With all this appeal to emotion it is little wonder that some, such as the gentleman who wrote that letter to Dawkins, have been so completely taken in. Stein plays on the (already widespread) fear of science, seeming to imply that we could be looking another Holacaust in the face if these sinister sceintists have their way. What do you think of all this?
Personally I would object to the word "theory" being associated with ID. At best it is a conjecture, it has no body of evidence associated with it, it makes no predictions that can be tested or falsified
1797. Comment #173250 by Steve Zara on April 30, 2008 at 2:40 pm
1798. Comment #173252 by TheTruthID on April 30, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Anyone tell me how I go about sending a private e-mail? When I click on a name in the comments, it tells me to log in. Then it tells me my ID is not active. But then how am I logged in if I'm not active? Confused.1799. Comment #173257 by MPhil on April 30, 2008 at 2:47 pm
1800. Comment #173260 by Goldy on April 30, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Truth, you may have to register there. Clicking on your name tells me you don't exist.
1751. Comment #172447 by Goldy on April 29, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Brian, I'm hurt you can say this behind my back! They just philosophise, I'm training bloody kangaroos! Or maybe they're training me... ;-)
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