Postmodernism DisrobedWe can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.
In the first place, singularities-events correspond to heterogeneous series which are organized into a system which is neither stable nor unstable, but rather 'metastable,' endowed with a potential energy wherein the differences between series are distributed . . . In the second place, singularities possess a process of auto-unification, always mobile and displaced to the extent that a paradoxical element traverses the series and makes them resonate, enveloping the corresponding singular points in a single aleatory point and all the emissions, all dice throws, in a single cast.
Style has become an object of first importance, and what a style it is! For me it has a prancing, high-stepping quality, full of self-importance; elevated indeed, but in the balletic manner, and stopping from time to time in studied attitudes, as if awaiting an outburst of applause. It has had a deplorable influence on the quality of modern thought . . .
I could quote evidence of the beginnings of a whispering campaign against the virtues of clarity. A writer on structuralism in the Times Literary Supplement has suggested that thoughts which are confused and tortuous by reason of their profundity are most appropriately expressed in prose that is deliberately unclear. What a preposterously silly idea! I am reminded of an air-raid warden in wartime Oxford who, when bright moonlight seemed to be defeating the spirit of the blackout, exhorted us to wear dark glasses. He, however, was being funny on purpose.
. . . although Lacan uses quite a few key words from the mathematical theory of compactness, he mixes them up arbitrarily and without the slightest regard for their meaning. His 'definition' of compactness is not just false: it is gibberish.
S (signifier) = s (the statement),
s (signified)
With S = (-1), produces: s = sqrt(-1)
. . . is equivalent to the sqrt(-1) of the signification produced above, of the jouissance that it restores by the coefficient of its statement to the function of lack of signifier (-1).
The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. . . From this perspective it is no wonder that science has not been able to arrive at a successful model for turbulence. The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders.
Perhaps history itself has to be regarded as a chaotic formation, in which acceleration puts an end to linearity and the turbulence created by acceleration deflects history definitively from its end, just as such turbulence distances effects from their causes.
In summary, one finds in Baudrillard's works a profusion of scientific terms, used with total disregard for their meaning and, above all, in a context where they are manifestly irrelevant. Whether or not one interprets them as metaphors, it is hard to see what role they could play, except to give an appearance of profundity to trite observations about sociology or history. Moreover, the scientific terminology is mixed up with a non-scientific vocabulary that is employed with equal sloppiness. When all is said and done, one wonders what would be left of Baudrillard's thought if the verbal veneer covering it were stripped away.
Anyone who has spent much time wading through the pious, obscurantist, jargon-filled cant that now passes for 'advanced' thought in the humanities knew it was bound to happen sooner or later: some clever academic, armed with the not-so-secret passwords ('hermeneutics,' 'transgressive,' 'Lacanian,' 'hegemony,' to name but a few) would write a completely bogus paper, submit it to an au courant journal, and have it accepted . . . Sokal's piece uses all the right terms. It cites all the best people. It whacks sinners (white men, the 'real world'), applauds the virtuous (women, general metaphysical lunacy) . . . And it is complete, unadulterated bullshit — a fact that somehow escaped the attention of the high-powered editors of Social Text, who must now be experiencing that queasy sensation that afflicted the Trojans the morning after they pulled that nice big gift horse into their city.
If one examines capitalist theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject neotextual materialism or conclude that society has objective value. If dialectic desituationism holds, we have to choose between Habermasian discourse and the subtextual paradigm of context. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into a textual nationalism that includes truth as a reality. In a sense, the premise of the subtextual paradigm of context states that reality comes from the collective unconscious.
102. Comment #29430 by smurrish on April 2, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Nuclearman,103. Comment #29431 by WilliamP on April 2, 2007 at 11:06 pm
I have to say that I have read over more than two pages of comments here and I still have little idea of what Postmodernism (PM) is. Some have posted definitions, and then others who claim to know something about PM have said those definitions are wrong. What is it then? Tell us, don't hide behind mystery like religions does."No doubt there exist thoughts so profound that most of us will not understand the language in which they are expressed. And no doubt there is also language designed to be unintelligible in order to conceal an absence of honest thought. But how are we to tell the difference?"
104. Comment #29444 by smurrish on April 3, 2007 at 1:04 am
WilliamP,105. Comment #29447 by macronencer on April 3, 2007 at 1:18 am
106. Comment #29459 by WilliamP on April 3, 2007 at 1:57 am
Ellen, that's more information about Postmodernism than I have ever gotten before when I had asked people about it. That makes some sense, but I don't understand how its unique writing style follows, though. Thanks.107. Comment #29464 by Ragnar on April 3, 2007 at 2:16 am
There exists indeed a very real problem that has taken over many in the humanities. It is a movement of pseudointellectual posturing, of passing along plain nonsense as valuable information. A movement of people trying to look smart by acting stupid. Their modus operandi is to produce works as superficially complicated as possible, shielding against the void of reason underneath. Only thing that matters to these people is the perverse respect gained from people who are too naive to see through the smokescreen and conclude that the charlatans posses some sort of superior knowledge beyond their abilities to decipher.108. Comment #29467 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 2:35 am
109. Comment #29473 by Jonathan Dore on April 3, 2007 at 3:30 am
Ellen -- I for one greatly appreciate the time you took to spell out an intelligible sketch of what the quoted passages were on about. But doing so confirms my impression that this mode of thought is essentially pointless, uninteresting (because it points out the obvious), and parasitic upon real intellectual achievement. A very sad thing for universities today that it has become entrenched in academic disciplines, such as English and Music, that used to be about the study and analysis of bodies of real work, but are now being assimilated, Borg-like, into branches of this insipid philosophizing -- an obfuscatory froth of commentaries upon other commentaries.110. Comment #29476 by Philip1978 on April 3, 2007 at 3:53 am
111. Comment #29478 by Jef on April 3, 2007 at 4:03 am
112. Comment #29489 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 4:53 am
Someone should start a counter-movement of sorts that encourages people into using the clearest possible language when communicating ideas and warns of the dangers of equating hard-to-understand with deep. After the language becomes clearer, the concepts behind will stand or fall on their own merits.113. Comment #29492 by Dimitar on April 3, 2007 at 5:10 am
September,114. Comment #29512 by Dr Benway on April 3, 2007 at 7:11 am
115. Comment #29518 by Jef on April 3, 2007 at 8:29 am
116. Comment #29521 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 8:46 am
i know a bit of something, and find dawkins statements unscientific, unacademic, irresponsible, unresearched, and dogmatic.Just saying it doesn't make it so. Would you care to elaborate? What exactly did Dawkins say on the topic of PM that is not true? And why is it not?
117. Comment #29524 by Dimitar on April 3, 2007 at 8:53 am
September,118. Comment #29531 by sane1 on April 3, 2007 at 9:56 am
119. Comment #29532 by CakeOrDeath on April 3, 2007 at 9:56 am
I agree with AnnieKM. I sort of had an idea as to the falsity of some of this, but couldn't help to but to try and take it seriously in grad school... those were the worst days of my life :-)120. Comment #29536 by drive1 on April 3, 2007 at 10:33 am
121. Comment #29537 by Alison on April 3, 2007 at 10:41 am
122. Comment #29544 by Scifinerdgrl on April 3, 2007 at 11:00 am
My understanding of post-modernism is that it privileges the subjective because everything is subjective and nobody's view is more or less valid than anyone else's. My belief that gravity holds me to the earth is no more valid than that of someone who credits invisible puppet-strings.123. Comment #29547 by nine9s on April 3, 2007 at 11:09 am
Jonathan Dore:Ellen -- I for one greatly appreciate the time you took to spell out an intelligible sketch of what the quoted passages were on about. But doing so confirms my impression that this mode of thought is essentially pointless, uninteresting (because it points out the obvious), and parasitic upon real intellectual achievement.Bingo. Very well put, Dore.
124. Comment #29550 by fonex_86 on April 3, 2007 at 11:19 am
i love that people think that i MUST give a definition of what postmodernism is, or i else i am either a waste of time, or have no idea what im talking about, or am a postmodernist in disguise.
125. Comment #29551 by nine9s on April 3, 2007 at 11:19 am
Alison's point on time metaphors is well taken, but... so what? Why would anyone spend their time parsing metaphors like this rather than, say, solving crossword puzzles or sudoku?126. Comment #29553 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 11:25 am
127. Comment #29556 by Alison on April 3, 2007 at 11:57 am
128. Comment #29557 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 11:58 am
129. Comment #29559 by Alison on April 3, 2007 at 12:08 pm
130. Comment #29562 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Alison:Time flies by, or crawls by slowly. The time for argument has long passed. Time is an object moving in relation to us.This is just plain idiotic. Words can have different meanings in different contexts, no kidding? Human beings must have been struggling to communicate with each other through the ages until the advent of postmodernism.
...
So how do we choose which metaphor to use? Which metaphor is privileged? This is the crux of postmodernism as I see it.
There is no need to argue over the definition of Postmodernism.So when people use the term "postmodern" in speech, it carries no meaning? Or it means completely different things to different people, rendering any conversation invoking the concept pointless? I don't buy this. There must exist a shared definition, at least some common ground between two people to use a word to convey meaning. More probable is just that if this common ground were spelled out, the definition would sound rather banal and that's why people calling themselves postmodernists reject such a thing.
It is one of those things that are too loose to give a precise definition. Even if one can list its characteristics it will still be misleading.
131. Comment #29569 by reggiedixon on April 3, 2007 at 12:44 pm
I was explaining this rather pointless discussion to someone today and their brilliant response was "Postmodernism - that's just like playing a game of 'Mornington Crescent' isn't it?"132. Comment #29570 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 12:44 pm
133. Comment #29574 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Bonzai:Hey, how do you make quotes in this forum? I don't find any button or key??!!Cut and paste + blockquote tag is how I do it, see the Comment Posting Guidelines link.
134. Comment #29575 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 1:03 pm
135. Comment #29578 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 1:06 pm
My point, I guess, is that although the word "postmodernism" may have been used to mean a host of different things, there are common situations where the term is invoked and the "real" definition can be derived by observing its meaning in these contexts.136. Comment #29579 by puusio on April 3, 2007 at 1:09 pm
As I said I think quibbling over what is "Postmodernism" distracts from the main focus of Dawkins' point. If you want to debate with September over definition be my guest.You're right, of course, and I do think there should exist a word for the thing that we're criticizing here, so as not to have to invoke the term "postmodernism", which sadly is the closest candidate that I know.
137. Comment #29580 by Bonzai on April 3, 2007 at 1:17 pm
138. Comment #29620 by irvine-intervention on April 3, 2007 at 4:05 pm
What happens when you combine postmodern philosophy with christianity?139. Comment #29631 by ellen on April 3, 2007 at 5:38 pm
I appreciate those of you who read my post, and in light of a few of the subsequent comments I would like to add a few things:140. Comment #29660 by Nuclearman on April 3, 2007 at 11:41 pm
I would like to submit a possible definition for PM that probably is worse than any of the others, and this one is taken from a readily accessible location; namely, the lyrics to Don Henley's song, "They're Not Here, They're Not Coming". To wit:
Well it's a cold, cold, cold, cold cold, cold, cold, cold, post, postmodern world,
No time for heroes, no place for good guys
No room for Rocky the flying squirrel.
Well it's a cold, cold, cold, cold cold, cold, cold, cold, post-post modern world,
No authenticity, no sign of soul
The radio won't play George and Merle
Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No place for sentiment, no room for romance
Bring back the Duke of Earl
141. Comment #29664 by bruno_burned on April 4, 2007 at 1:16 am
puusio: Someone should start a counter-movement of sorts that encourages people into using the clearest possible language when communicating ideas and warns of the dangers of equating hard-to-understand with deep.
irvine-intervention: What happens when you combine postmodern philosophy with christianity?
142. Comment #29672 by irvine-intervention on April 4, 2007 at 2:26 am
bruno_burned: You think that's bad - check out the Emerging Church of Christianity. I've debated with these folks before. Not only can you not debate them on the truth of God, you can't even debate them on the existence of "truth". Its unbelievably insane.
143. Comment #29723 by Fire1974 on April 4, 2007 at 1:00 pm
May I submit this as a definition of Postmodernism?144. Comment #29813 by Russell Blackford on April 5, 2007 at 12:41 am
I don't pretend to understand what post-modernism is. That's partly because of my undoubted intellectual limitations, but also partly because it's not just one thing. In part, it's a reaction to modernity, which largely means 18th century Enlightenment thinking and concepts of "enlightenment" and "progress" in general - and the idea that the world can be understood through reason. In part, it's a reaction to the artistic and literary movement we call Modernism, which is something completely different (Yeats, Joyce, Eliot, Lawrence and their counterparts in other languages, and other arts, were seldom, in any sense, rationalists). In part, it's other things again. All these things may bear some kind of complex family relationship to each other, but there's no single theory.145. Comment #29830 by Veronique on April 5, 2007 at 3:57 am
146. Comment #30014 by elias001 on April 6, 2007 at 6:45 am
September, can you please stop attacking Dawkins, I am not sure if your jabs are effective because you are being ignored right now by the entire forum, and also, Dawkins never attacked you personally and he has never denigrated your intellegence both on a personal and on an academic level. It goes the same for your diatribe against others on this forum.147. Comment #30015 by gesswatt on April 6, 2007 at 7:27 am
Defining pOMo would be difficult -great topic to begin on April Fools Day. Why is so-called post modernism called "POST" modernism? was perhaps asked comment 29212 by William --148. Comment #30022 by kurtdenke on April 6, 2007 at 8:35 am
Postmodernism reminds me very much of Gnosticism. I've spent quite a lot of time with the Nag Hammadi texts, trying to figure out just what the heck those people believed. My conclusion is that they believed that if ideas are so incoherent and ill-formed as to be barely expressible, and if the expression of those ideas is so difficult and obscure that it does a good job of confusing the uninitiated while sounding important--well, that's wisdom. Isn't that what postmodernists believe?149. Comment #30045 by peter.evolves on April 6, 2007 at 10:48 am
In comment #29279 JasonG notes postmodernism's presence in musicology. As a composer with a graduate degree, I can only lament the truth of his statement and its mind-numbing effects on musical criticism, (a)historical interpretation (those can be fun from time to time) and theory. There is an immense scrap heap of academic "research" on music that is little more than opaque piffle.150. Comment #30051 by Bonzai on April 6, 2007 at 11:53 am
101. Comment #29419 by Bonzai on April 2, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Perhaps the lesson that the "scholars",--artists,-- try to convey is not in the texts they write, but in what they do. They are making the point that they can get away by being total jackases and win praises and adulation for it. This is a very biting social commentary about the world of the high intellectuals.
If that is the case they are certainly genuises. I have to say they put up a good show in the fine satirical tradition of Gogol's Inspector General.
Focault would be amused. I can imagine him gloating in his grave.
This reminds me of a review I read about Andy Warhol. The reviewer said that Warhol was a third rate visual artist. His real art was the way he manipulated and destroyed people around him and he was conscious of it. His projects consisted of systematically turning talented young artists around him into freaks. I don't know if that is fair to Warhol, but seems appropiate for the pomo scholars.
I am not being ironic. I am serious about my theory.
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