There is no God and Dawkins is his Prophet2. Comment #66272 by adriang63 on August 29, 2007 at 2:46 pm
3. Comment #66273 by Dax on August 29, 2007 at 2:46 pm
[...] or does not even make an effort to understand them
4. Comment #66274 by philosowizer on August 29, 2007 at 2:52 pm
That was a horrible article.5. Comment #66275 by Yorker on August 29, 2007 at 2:55 pm
I soon as I saw this was written by a "Father", I read no further, I'll leave that to you masochists. ;)6. Comment #66276 by panajache69 on August 29, 2007 at 2:56 pm
7. Comment #66277 by Janus on August 29, 2007 at 3:03 pm
8. Comment #66280 by Ohnhai on August 29, 2007 at 3:11 pm
9. Comment #66281 by AnthSynthasome on August 29, 2007 at 3:16 pm
10. Comment #66282 by Quine on August 29, 2007 at 3:20 pm
11. Comment #66291 by robotaholic on August 29, 2007 at 3:42 pm
12. Comment #66292 by notsobad on August 29, 2007 at 3:44 pm
13. Comment #66303 by BAEOZ on August 29, 2007 at 4:36 pm
As to the problem with the infinite regress, other thinkers have already come up with alternative solutions, which Dawkins does not seem to be aware of. One is that God is unique inasmuch as he is his own cause and that God therefore is the very solution of the regress problem.
a false premise implies any conclusion.
14. Comment #66308 by Henri Bergson on August 29, 2007 at 4:50 pm
15. Comment #66312 by dancingthemantaray on August 29, 2007 at 5:05 pm
"He brings out ancient proofs of the existence of God but leaves fresher and sharper arguments aside"16. Comment #66331 by Inferno on August 29, 2007 at 5:49 pm
17. Comment #66337 by phasmagigas on August 29, 2007 at 5:59 pm
18. Comment #66355 by sabre_truth on August 29, 2007 at 7:01 pm
P1. A is A19. Comment #66366 by HappyPrimate on August 29, 2007 at 7:59 pm
20. Comment #66367 by Electric Monk on August 29, 2007 at 8:17 pm
... pity he didn't understand it.21. Comment #66381 by Inferno on August 29, 2007 at 9:57 pm
22. Comment #66387 by 82abhilash on August 29, 2007 at 10:56 pm
If this is the best argument a Swede can come up with in defense of religion, then Dawkins has nothing to worry. The Swedish edition of his book will also be a best seller. A new class of militant atheists will arise in Sweden and they will keep the Muslim immigrants under check. For their own sake, they better.23. Comment #66413 by Philip1978 on August 30, 2007 at 12:46 am
24. Comment #66437 by Moridin on August 30, 2007 at 2:14 am
Yes finally! I'm from Sweden (but I read the English version).25. Comment #66443 by Prufrock on August 30, 2007 at 2:33 am
I must have learning difficulties! I read what people like Father Ulf Jonsson have to say every time, and not just read it, I mean read it, until the very end, in the vain hope I might actually read something vaguely evidential or even interesting. But no ... just the same, tired old psuedo nonsense. I remember Dr Benway suggesting people google logical fallacies to learn how to pick out bad logic and to construct truthful logic. Maybe the people who need to do the googling most are the people who write articles like this. I've heard all of this so many times; maybe the perpetrators believe a lie becomes true the more you tell Mmmmmm... yawn.26. Comment #66458 by magetoo on August 30, 2007 at 3:26 am
Untranslated Swedish version here, for those who might prefer that.27. Comment #66473 by cutemartin on August 30, 2007 at 4:41 am
"First he wants to prove that God does not exist"28. Comment #66478 by GBile on August 30, 2007 at 5:05 am
As to the problem with the infinite regress, other thinkers have already come up with alternative solutions, which Dawkins does not seem to be aware of. One is that God is unique inasmuch as he is his own cause and that God therefore is the very solution of the regress problem
29. Comment #66488 by Misha Vargas on August 30, 2007 at 5:50 am
Dawkins declares......Religion is a by-product of evolution and has survived since mankind has benefited from it.
He does admit here and there that not all believers are fundamentalists and that there are even some very prominent scientists who believe in God. However, he finds that extremely puzzling, even to the extent that he wonders whether they really are believers or have allowed themselves to be bribed by religious organisations.
30. Comment #66495 by pewkatchoo on August 30, 2007 at 6:11 am
31. Comment #66506 by phasmagigas on August 30, 2007 at 6:47 am
32. Comment #66507 by tieInterceptor on August 30, 2007 at 6:47 am
Henri Bergson:
Sweden is destroying itself at the moment by 'accepting' all cultures & religions.
Sweden's 3rd city, Malmö, has been predicted to be the first European city with a muslim majority.
33. Comment #66537 by Frank Grimes Jr on August 30, 2007 at 10:49 am
Well, I've been reading more or less every news item and feature article (along with comments) on this site for a long time now and I guess the time has come to dispose of my silence and post my first comment.34. Comment #66581 by Logicel on August 30, 2007 at 1:55 pm
35. Comment #66691 by Vaal on August 31, 2007 at 2:09 am
36. Comment #66698 by Kevin Ronayne on August 31, 2007 at 3:12 am
37. Comment #66795 by Steven Mading on August 31, 2007 at 12:55 pm
From the article:One point that McGrath makes is Dawkins' definition of religion as "faith without reason", i.e. that religious faith does not rely on reasonable arguments. A belief of this kind exists in fundamentalist groups but is rejected by the main churches.
38. Comment #66796 by Steven Mading on August 31, 2007 at 12:59 pm
In comment 37, Kevin Ronayne says:
Here we go again:
"The stated purpose of the book is to make its readers atheists."
Where, or where, does RD say that exactly? Lying for Jesus again by the looks of it
39. Comment #66803 by detox on August 31, 2007 at 1:45 pm
40. Comment #66804 by liberalartist on August 31, 2007 at 1:48 pm
41. Comment #66989 by ksskidude on September 1, 2007 at 8:29 am
42. Comment #68086 by DNAproduct on September 6, 2007 at 5:11 am
I don't remember that bit about bribery, can anyone find what Father Ulf is referring to? Maybe the translation was bad?
Paul Davies's The Mind of God seems to hover somewhere between Einsteinian pantheism and an obscure form of deism - for which he was rewarded with the Templeton Prize (a very large sum of money given annually by the Templeton Foundation, usually to a scientist who is prepared to say something nice about religion).
43. Comment #69360 by Misha Vargas on September 11, 2007 at 1:52 am
44. Comment #69370 by Goatboy2012 on September 11, 2007 at 2:42 am
45. Comment #69380 by yanco on September 11, 2007 at 3:21 am
46. Comment #69400 by Marie-Louise on September 11, 2007 at 5:59 am
Hi !47. Comment #69665 by DNAproduct on September 12, 2007 at 5:19 am
1. Comment #66268 by DrShell on August 29, 2007 at 2:20 pm
*Sigh*This old crapola again.
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