Mitt Romney's Faith In America address (as prepared for delivery)
2. Comment #94907 by Davybuoy on December 7, 2007 at 1:46 am
3. Comment #94911 by gcdavis on December 7, 2007 at 1:52 am
From: No Man Knows My History: the life of Joseph Smith, by Fawn Brodie
"Shortly after his arrival Joseph rowed up the Grand River to Lyman Wight's ferry to explore land on the north bank in Daviess County [Missouri]. On a high bluff overlooking the river someone in the party discovered the ruins of what seemed to be an altar and excitedly led the prophet to it. After examining it Joseph stood silent, his eyes sweeping over the prairie that rolled away beneath him....The glory of the scene made Joseph heady as with new wine. 'This is the valley of God in which Adam blessed his children,' he said, 'and upon this very altar Adam himself offered up sacrifices to Jehovah....we will lay out a city which shall be called Adam-ondi-Ahman. Here Adam, the Ancient of Days, shall come to visit his people....'
4. Comment #94918 by alfonso on December 7, 2007 at 2:02 am
I love the profound ceremony of the Catholic mass, the approachability of God in the prayers of the Evangelicals, the tenderness of spirit among the Pentecostals, the confident independence of the Lutherans, the ancient traditions of the Jews, unchanged through the ages, and the commitment to frequent prayer of the Muslims
5. Comment #94920 by k1mgy on December 7, 2007 at 2:07 am
6. Comment #94925 by Conrad on December 7, 2007 at 2:27 am
It is telling that to begin he quotes Adams, who enacted the alien and sedition acts, which are the height of unconstitutional (un-american as some would say today...) as Jefferson pointed out at the time.7. Comment #94932 by room101 on December 7, 2007 at 2:46 am
But in recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning. They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God. Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life. It is as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America - the religion of secularism. They are wrong.
8. Comment #94949 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 3:23 am
9. Comment #94958 by Nefrubyr on December 7, 2007 at 3:50 am
Americans acknowledge that liberty is a gift of God, not an indulgence of government. No people in the history of the world have sacrificed as much for liberty.
10. Comment #94962 by eno on December 7, 2007 at 4:13 am
The country is doomed.11. Comment #94965 by CJ22 on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 am
12. Comment #94966 by Flavius_Josephus on December 7, 2007 at 4:29 am
13. Comment #94971 by Mark Till on December 7, 2007 at 4:42 am
14. Comment #94983 by RickM on December 7, 2007 at 5:22 am
15. Comment #94984 by stephenray on December 7, 2007 at 5:22 am
It's a goldilocks speech!!16. Comment #94985 by stephenray on December 7, 2007 at 5:27 am
Dig the stuff he says after the bit about what Americans have sacrificed in the name of liberty.17. Comment #94986 by Philip1978 on December 7, 2007 at 5:36 am
18. Comment #94989 by RickM on December 7, 2007 at 5:49 am
19. Comment #94995 by CruciFiction on December 7, 2007 at 6:17 am
The Rev. Barry Lynn (Americans United for separation of Church and State) was interviewed on CNN about his opinion on Romney's speech:20. Comment #94996 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 6:18 am
21. Comment #95003 by Murray Keedis on December 7, 2007 at 6:30 am
I don't think Mitt has much of a chance, but the Dems and Reps are fielding some silly, silly people.22. Comment #95007 by espadre on December 7, 2007 at 6:46 am
This is a letter I sent to my local newspaper in response to this horrible speech. It really flabbergasted me that he spent so much time saying so very little. And the implication that nonbelievers should not be afforded the same rights as others really offended me. I am not sure the dolt knows what he's actually saying. I think he is just beating the proverbial drum...23. Comment #95008 by irvine.intervention on December 7, 2007 at 6:51 am
24. Comment #95010 by jimbob on December 7, 2007 at 6:55 am
I read Romney's speech, and I read JFK's25. Comment #95011 by Russell's Teapot on December 7, 2007 at 7:04 am
26. Comment #95013 by detox on December 7, 2007 at 7:09 am
"Americans acknowledge that liberty is a gift of God, not an indulgence of government. No people in the history of the world have sacrificed as much for liberty. The lives of hundreds of thousands of America's sons and daughters were laid down during the last century to preserve freedom, for us and for freedom loving people throughout the world. America took nothing from that century's terrible wars - no land from Germany or Japan or Korea; no treasure; no oath of fealty. America's resolve in the defense of liberty has been tested time and again. It has not been found wanting, nor must it ever be. America must never falter in holding high the banner of freedom."
27. Comment #95018 by espadre on December 7, 2007 at 7:17 am
Check out Christopher Hitchens response here: http://www.slate.com/id/217940428. Comment #95020 by cowalker on December 7, 2007 at 7:20 am
A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.
29. Comment #95027 by Rtambree on December 7, 2007 at 7:30 am
Bait and switch. A discussion on Mormonism was switched to the untouchable religion of nationalism which no American can question.30. Comment #95028 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2007 at 7:34 am
31. Comment #95030 by Rtambree on December 7, 2007 at 7:39 am
Hyperpatriotism seems to be the glue that keeps together the class, race, and ideological divides... just.32. Comment #95033 by savroD on December 7, 2007 at 7:48 am
33. Comment #95037 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 7:59 am
America is unlucky enough to have been infected with two of these ideological viruses, the nationalism and the religion.
34. Comment #95046 by thirdchimpanzee on December 7, 2007 at 8:24 am
I actually want Mitt to win the Republican nomination - then I won't have to worry so much who the Democratic candidate will be. The story of Joseph Smith will get dragged out - and hopefully begin to overturn the absurd presumption that a Candidates specific religious beliefs are any less relevant than their worldview in any other domain.
It is as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America - the religion of secularism.
35. Comment #95052 by jetdriver on December 7, 2007 at 8:56 am
36. Comment #95054 by robonstormymonday on December 7, 2007 at 9:01 am
What in the hell!? Why did he switch from religion to patriotic rhetoric. Does he really think his audience is that stupid.37. Comment #95059 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 9:14 am
This is one of the scariest political speeches I heard since I arrived in this country
38. Comment #95074 by 82abhilash on December 7, 2007 at 9:55 am
This speech is a disappointment. He has completly side-stepped the issue of his membership in an organization that was officially racist until 1963 which barred black members from higher office until 1978.39. Comment #95079 by thirdchimpanzee on December 7, 2007 at 10:23 am
Here's why I think Romney's candidacy is going to air some very dirty laundry. In the recent CNN/YouTube Republican debate, a questioner held up a Bible and demanded to know which candidates believed every word of the book. As the questioner put it, their answers would tell him everything he needed to know about them as candidates. Here's a link to the transcript:40. Comment #95093 by ScarSick on December 7, 2007 at 10:43 am
Check out Christopher Hitchens response here: http://www.slate.com/id/2179404
I love it when Hitch stays on topic and target. Unfortunately, it seems to be a rare occurrence these days. Latley, he tends to wield his razor-sharp wit rather like a blunt butter knife. He does some damage - but it takes forever and the wounds are pretty shallow. I am beginning to think the man is stricken with self-loathing and may even have a death wish. Or maybe it's all that whiskey he's purported to consume...
41. Comment #95104 by al-rawandi on December 7, 2007 at 10:58 am
42. Comment #95109 by savroD on December 7, 2007 at 11:11 am
43. Comment #95120 by espadre on December 7, 2007 at 11:39 am
Scarsick,44. Comment #95132 by Northern Bright on December 7, 2007 at 12:18 pm
45. Comment #95139 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 12:27 pm
46. Comment #95142 by Northern Bright on December 7, 2007 at 12:35 pm
47. Comment #95147 by thirdchimpanzee on December 7, 2007 at 12:54 pm
I don't know about the "smart money" on the Republican side. I think we tend to forget that 2000 was the beginning of the Cheney presidency - which is itself a weird payback from Bush senior, who suffered a humiliating loss at the hands of Bill Clinton.48. Comment #95165 by USA_Limey on December 7, 2007 at 1:28 pm
49. Comment #95173 by al-rawandi on December 7, 2007 at 1:53 pm
50. Comment #95190 by NormanDoering on December 7, 2007 at 2:31 pm
al-rawandi wrote:He will lose to Hillary in the general election.
1. Comment #94903 by Bertybob on December 7, 2007 at 1:30 am
In short - "trust me, I'm a patriot, being a patriot I do not have to answer for my religious beliefs".
He does not answer the questions about how, if he is sincere in those beliefs, they contradict with the political office of President.
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