Florida in the process of approving new science standards
2. Comment #114147 by mikecbraun on January 21, 2008 at 12:54 pm
3. Comment #114164 by quill on January 21, 2008 at 1:25 pm
4. Comment #114204 by AllanW on January 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm
5. Comment #114253 by The Schuermannator on January 21, 2008 at 4:14 pm
6. Comment #114264 by fatcitymax on January 21, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Evolution---Smellvolution.7. Comment #114274 by The Schuermannator on January 21, 2008 at 5:29 pm
8. Comment #114278 by MelM on January 21, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Here's a report dated Dec 11, 2007 from NCSE (The National Center for Science Education: Eugenie Scott is Executive Director): Creationist pressure mounting in FloridaA scant two days later after its report on Callaway, the St. Petersburg Times (December 8, 2007) revealed that there was opposition to the treatment of evolution in the draft standards within the state department of education itself: "Selena 'Charlie' Carraway, program manager for the department's Office of Instructional Materials, recently used her personal e-mail on personal time to send a missive urging fellow Christians to fight the proposal to include evolution as a "key idea" in the science curriculum. But she invoked her position as a way to, in her words, 'give this e-mail credibility.' And that, it turns out, is a no-no." A spokesperson for the department told the newspaper, "It is inappropriate for any department employee to use their public position to advocate their personal positions."
9. Comment #114288 by quill on January 21, 2008 at 7:05 pm
10. Comment #114292 by The Schuermannator on January 21, 2008 at 7:48 pm
11. Comment #114294 by dragonfirematrix on January 21, 2008 at 8:00 pm
12. Comment #114299 by LorienRyan on January 21, 2008 at 8:20 pm
13. Comment #114300 by MPhil on January 21, 2008 at 8:26 pm
LorienRyan
Intelligent Design is just as valid a theory as Evolution is - although the evidence supports Evolution as the reasonable conclusion.
14. Comment #114302 by kraut on January 21, 2008 at 8:32 pm
15. Comment #114303 by The Schuermannator on January 21, 2008 at 8:34 pm
LorienRyan
Intelligent Design is just as valid a theory as Evolution is - although the evidence supports Evolution as the reasonable conclusion.
16. Comment #114304 by LorienRyan on January 21, 2008 at 8:41 pm
17. Comment #114305 by Roland_F on January 21, 2008 at 8:49 pm
14. Comment #114299 by LorienRyanIntelligent Design is just as valid a theory as Evolution is - although the evidence supports Evolution as the reasonable conclusion.
18. Comment #114360 by Roger Stanyard on January 22, 2008 at 4:22 am
19. Comment #114363 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 4:33 am
Intelligent Design is just as valid a theory as Evolution is - although the evidence supports Evolution as the reasonable conclusion.
20. Comment #114365 by Tyler Durden on January 22, 2008 at 4:39 am
The point I am trying to make is to let the evidence do the talking, so to speak.But the Creationists don't let something like evidence get in the way of spouting rubbish and lies, and while I agree the evidence should be enough to convince most people, some people are beyond listening.
21. Comment #114367 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 4:47 am
ID makes no predictions, and is not falsifiable.
22. Comment #114385 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 6:12 am
23. Comment #114390 by Ian Bamlett on January 22, 2008 at 6:18 am
Man, where did you crawl from?
24. Comment #114392 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 6:23 am
25. Comment #114393 by al-rawandi on January 22, 2008 at 6:25 am
26. Comment #114397 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 6:36 am
And Steve Zara, evolution is a theory. It's a scientific theory, which makes it as close to fact as science is comfortable to admit. I wish they would start using the term 'law' for evolution, and the term theory for natural selection, as evolution is as plainly true as gravity, but the details of natural selection are not yet crystal clear.
27. Comment #114401 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 6:44 am
28. Comment #114405 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 6:52 am
29. Comment #114408 by Geoff on January 22, 2008 at 6:54 am
7. Comment #114264 by fatcitymax on January 21, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I'll have you know that Florida produces the best football...players in the country!
30. Comment #114410 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 6:56 am
31. Comment #114411 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 6:59 am
Most laypeople only get as far as, "It's only a theory," and their minds are already closed off. It works very well.
32. Comment #114412 by al-rawandi on January 22, 2008 at 7:04 am
33. Comment #114416 by GoneGolfing on January 22, 2008 at 7:11 am
There is no need to be suppositional with regard to Evolution. It is clearly seen in practice so it is clearly then "not" a theory.34. Comment #114418 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 7:18 am
35. Comment #114420 by epeeist on January 22, 2008 at 7:21 am
Bloody Americans, they call a game where the ball is carried for most of the time football, which means they have to rename the real game "soccer".
Bah! Dolphins. Laughable.
36. Comment #114421 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 7:24 am
Anyway, cricket is the only team game that is worth playing or watching.
37. Comment #114422 by al-rawandi on January 22, 2008 at 7:33 am
38. Comment #114423 by Tyler Durden on January 22, 2008 at 7:36 am
Bloody Americans, they call a game where the ball is carried for most of the time football, which means they have to rename the real game "soccer".And call a score a "touchdown" when in fact the ball does not even have to touchdown, whereas in rugby it most definitely does! Daft Yanks!
39. Comment #114424 by Incredulous on January 22, 2008 at 7:39 am
Steve, I think I need some education here. Creationists don't believe in evolution. ID is considered analogous to creationism.40. Comment #114425 by AllanW on January 22, 2008 at 7:41 am
41. Comment #114426 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 7:45 am
Sorry to be so foggy, Steve. I just thought ID was an alternative to Evolution, i.e. God made us and everything in the 'perfect' form we see today. I didn't realise it could be seen as an alternative theory of evolution, in which case these people believe in evolution and we can all hug and forget the whole sorry discussion.
42. Comment #114427 by irate_atheist on January 22, 2008 at 7:47 am
I must forcibly object. Any game where there are tea breaks, and the game last 3 or 5 days, there is a problem.Yeah, right. I bet you don't appreciate the Duckworth-Lewis method either.
43. Comment #114429 by mikecbraun on January 22, 2008 at 7:50 am
44. Comment #114430 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 7:51 am
I must forcibly object. Any game where there are tea breaks, and the game last 3 or 5 days, there is a problem.
45. Comment #114431 by irate_atheist on January 22, 2008 at 7:52 am
A good way to think of ID is as "continous Creationism".A misprint methinks. Surely, "continuous Cretinism", is more appropriate?
46. Comment #114432 by al-rawandi on January 22, 2008 at 7:53 am
47. Comment #114434 by al-rawandi on January 22, 2008 at 7:56 am
48. Comment #114436 by Steve Zara on January 22, 2008 at 7:57 am
Or are the young Earth creationists different from IDers?
49. Comment #114439 by AllanW on January 22, 2008 at 7:59 am
50. Comment #114442 by epeeist on January 22, 2008 at 8:02 am
Please don't say things like this. I am trying to cajole Annabanana into going to the real home of cricket when she comes across to the UK, namely Headingley. Take no notice of the MCC, cricket is far too good for Surrey.
I had to look up Duckworth-Lewis. It seems to be a joke. Predicting the score? Only two English statisticians could have wasted the amount of time necessary to come up with something like that. Did you see the study where they found cricket can induce comas? :-)
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1. Comment #114132 by Stormkahn on January 21, 2008 at 12:24 pm
We should have fought a little harder in the war of independence and perhaps today things would be "better"?
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