Tired of all the religious garbage? It's time to become an Enlightenist3. Comment #3754 by Jonathan Dore on October 31, 2006 at 12:37 pm
Another fantastically invigorating slap in the face from the wonderful Muriel Gray. For anyone interested here are links to some more of her incisive columns in the Sunday Herald:4. Comment #3762 by writerdd on October 31, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Please, PLEASE, enough with the names already.6. Comment #3784 by Jack Rawlinson on October 31, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Way to go, Muriel! This is what we need more of - total refusal to play the Emperor's New Clothes game. It's funny how much stick RD gets for his really rather restrained "disrespecting" of religion, but this is the full-on stuff which really tells it like it is. It's NONSENSE, period. And it's a sheer bloody outrage that we're not only asked to respect it, but that it influences our lives in so many ways.7. Comment #3793 by William on October 31, 2006 at 4:50 pm
Hi Steve! Hello Jack! Great points!9. Comment #3830 by Randy Ping on October 31, 2006 at 11:57 pm
This same thing has happened here in America with schooling vouchers and governmental funding of "faith based initiatives".10. Comment #3836 by Serge on November 1, 2006 at 1:42 am
Well, I agree with all Muriel has to say in this article, although I'm not sure about creating a new name: I'm happy with all the ones that are currently used to insult me!!12. Comment #3861 by Jack Rawlinson on November 1, 2006 at 6:32 am
On the naming thing... I think good old "rationalist" works. But all labels run the risk of being restrictive.13. Comment #3874 by William on November 1, 2006 at 8:48 am
I've read all the above points and everyone here has made valid arguments.15. Comment #3888 by Jonathan Dore on November 1, 2006 at 10:01 am
Corin writes: "You are presuming here that the parents do not want their children raised and educated in their superstitious belief systems. Nothing could be further from the truth. One need only look to various on-going debates in the United States over the inclusion of [un]'intelligent design' and similar garbage to realise that the majority of people do not aspire for better education and more learning for their offspring. They seek to perpetuate their religious and cultural beliefs and bigotries first and foremost."16. Comment #3954 by Paul Grant on November 1, 2006 at 5:14 pm
Finding a name or word we can all agree on to describe non believers appears to be virtually impossible, perhaps we should be looking for a common symbol instead. After all, religions use symbols to great effect, just think of the number of people you see wearing crucifixes.17. Comment #3957 by William on November 1, 2006 at 5:39 pm
Interesting points Paul. What about a DNA molecule? I've never seen anything more beautiful, in microscopic form - mind, I don't have access to a microscope that often!19. Comment #4020 by Martin on November 2, 2006 at 4:21 am
"Seeing a gaggle of nuns or a holy man got up in his collar and robes I'm always reminded of children playing at role playing games, with quests, medieval costumes and make believe deities. Seems the most succinct title for those of us who choose not to play, if we need one, is 'Adults'"20. Comment #4113 by William on November 2, 2006 at 10:31 am
An unusual name - for an Atheist, Melbranche!21. Comment #4902 by rob on November 6, 2006 at 8:55 pm
"Do you really want to spend untold centuries trapped in a body that no longer functions, lying in your own waste, blind, deaf, and otherwise senseless?"22. Comment #6970 by Laurie on November 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm
...Perhaps we should adapt, as a basic rule for all humanity to start from..Asimov's three Laws Of Robotics..something like this -23. Comment #7577 by Aussie on November 18, 2006 at 8:47 pm
We don't need names as much as motivators.24. Comment #19367 by Stafford Gordon on January 26, 2007 at 2:53 pm
The very first paragragh does it.25. Comment #19373 by Russell Blackford on January 26, 2007 at 5:14 pm
There's already an expression for this: "Enlightenment liberal". Somehow, it has become very unfashionable to declare yourself to be an Enlightenment liberal, but I think it's something to be proud of. It puts you in good company with the likes of Locke and Hume and the French philosophes ... and in the same great tradition as Bentham, Mill, and Bertrand Russell. It distinguishes you from necessarily agreeing with either the radical egalitarianism of American liberal thinkers like Rawls (who expressly denies being an Enlightenment liberal), or in the mix of right-wing policies favoured by the so-called "Liberal Party" here in Australia.26. Comment #21914 by Pilot22A on February 11, 2007 at 4:55 pm
We are Atheists.
1. Comment #3742 by Nebularry on October 31, 2006 at 11:24 am
Woo! Hoo! Great article. But why can't we just be "free-thinkers" instead of "atheists", "brights" or "enlightenists"? It seems to me that free-thinker covers a lot of ground, leaves plenty of room for individuality and even permits one to be a deist if one wants.