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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments |

Document Tired of all the religious garbage? It's time to become an Enlightenist

by Muriel Gray

Reposted from:
http://www.sundayherald.com/58809

Muriel Gray on the need for recognition of all beliefs

GIVEN the uniformly alarmist nature of the news, leaving the country for the half-term holiday felt good this year. Choking in the wake of our carbon emissions was a nutcase Britain utterly obsessed with religion. People were threatening Jack Straw with violence; some woman (we think — for all we know it could have been Paul Gascoigne under that niquab) was claiming her right to mumble lessons at children while wearing a bag over her head, and the pope had made the hilariously Monty-Python esque declaration that he was "considering" abolishing limbo for unbaptised babies, no doubt making intelligent Catholics squirm with embarrassment at the screaming silliness of heavenly admission by human whim.

But on our return, sadly, there is no let up. Some senior Australian cleric declares that women without hijabs are uncovered meat inviting rape, and now we have arguments over faith school quotas and whether or not 25% of pupils admitted should come from other faiths, including no faith. If I tell you that I am sick, sick, sick, way beyond the back teeth, of all this dark ages, loony tunes, divisive religious garbage then I am making an understatement. The worst thing is that although for the most part all the nonsense can be ignored, when it gets political it simply cannot, and there is nothing more political than how we educate the next generation of British citizens.

Let's start with vocabulary. Let's stop describing these tax-funded establishments as faith schools. They are superstition schools, for that is what they teach. Alongside hard facts, innocent children are hoodwinked into accepting as real the mythology of virgin births, gods who regard women with bare heads as wicked harlots, that Noah's Ark was real and that Darwin was wrong. It's clear that, given the rising tide of superstition sweeping our country, no politician will help end this state-funded child abuse, and so it is time to try and fight back. The difficulty with people who think as I do is that we are always described in the negative as atheists. The word, although it simply means not believing in a deity, is mostly used in the pejorative to imply a lack of belief in anything, when nothing could be further from the truth. We are not a group who are seen as a "community", who are organised in our desires, or who can bring political pressure to bear on our government in the way herds of men in frocks seem to do with the sweep of a cassock or twitch of a beard.



So let's get organised. Someone tried a group called "The Brights", but the name is so smug and pretentious that it's not surprising it was a damp squib. Why not take instead The Enlightenment as the inspiration? Enlightenmentists is a bit of a mouthful, so let's try Enlightenists. I know. I just made it up. It's the best I can do, but we're going to need a label if we are hoping to get things like our own schools.

Here's what I believe as an Enlightenist. Atheism is not a driving concern, since belief in God is of little consequence. After all, if there is an interventionist God then there would be continuing demonstrable evidence of such, which there most certainly is not, and if there is a creator God who is non-interventionist then he neither requires nor merits worship, and if there is no God at all then so be it. Therefore you could happily suspect that there might be a non-interventionist God of sorts that could eventually be discovered scientifically and still be an Enlightenist. Since no action needs to be taken until such an unlikely discovery, it doesn't matter. Now let's move on.

Enlightenists believe in the awe-inspiring, wonder, beauty and complexity of the universe, and aspire to unpick its mysteries by reason, constant questioning, observation, experiment, and analysis of evidence. The bedrock of our morality is empathy, from which logically springs love, forgiveness, tolerance and a profound desire to make a just, egalitarian society and reduce suffering. The more knowledge a person has, the more they question and understand the real world, and the more they are required to analyse what is true then the greater the increase in empathy. Enlightenists care and wish to do good not because a vengeful God tells them to, but because intelligence suggests it is the only and the right thing to do.

So there we have it then, that's the belief manifesto. Now, where the hell are my bloody state-funded schools? We're always told about the high performance of superstition schools verses non-denominational ones, but we know that's because any parent willing to pretend to be religious to get their child in is a parent interested in their child's education, and involved parents equal successful children. Can you imagine the unseemly scramble for places if we were to be granted a state-funded Enlightenist school? Children would be welcome from any religious or ideological background, with the parents only having to fulfil the brief of allowing their children to be taught in the Enlightenist manner.

This would mean they could still be Catholics, Muslims, Protestants, Satanist, Druids, whatever they like, but their children would be taught to question the whole matching set of baggage. Sit back and watch the superstition schools empty.

Once we got our schools and started churning out multiracial youngsters free from any kind of manipulation, save that of being taught to question everything, we could start our political lobbying. Why should religious concerns be put above ours? Why shouldn't we have the right to be appeased when we are offended by religion, the way the religious whine like toddlers when someone shakes a stick at their myths? Why shouldn't we be consulted and treated with respect as a community? Why are the sincerely held beliefs I've outlined inferior to those of a Christian, Jew or a Muslim? You think I'm joking. I'm not. I pay my tax. I want representation too.

29 October 2006

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1. Comment #3742 by Nebularry on October 31, 2006 at 11:24 am

Woo! Hoo! Great article. But why can't we just be "free-thinkers" instead of "atheists", "brights" or "enlightenists"? It seems to me that free-thinker covers a lot of ground, leaves plenty of room for individuality and even permits one to be a deist if one wants.

2. Comment #3752 by vega on October 31, 2006 at 12:26 pm

Wow! I do like Muriel I do.

3. Comment #3754 by Jonathan Dore on October 31, 2006 at 12:37 pm

Another fantastically invigorating slap in the face from the wonderful Muriel Gray. For anyone interested here are links to some more of her incisive columns in the Sunday Herald:
http://www.sundayherald.com/57256
http://www.sundayherald.com/58149
http://www.sundayherald.com/56189
http://www.sundayherald.com/56424

4. Comment #3762 by writerdd on October 31, 2006 at 1:17 pm

Please, PLEASE, enough with the names already.

Who gives a CRAP what we call ourselves? All this wasted breath over whether it's better to be called an agnostic, an atheist, a free thinker, a bright, a humanist, ad naseum.

We need to stop being myopic dorks who bicker about esoteric terminology, and start banding together to stand up boldly against the religious and superstitous nonsense that is swallowing the world.

5. Comment #3783 by David S on October 31, 2006 at 3:07 pm

Johnathan Dore, it is my turn to thank you. I enjoyed this article but didn't realize there was more to be had. So thanks for the links.

6. Comment #3784 by Jack Rawlinson on October 31, 2006 at 3:11 pm

Way to go, Muriel! This is what we need more of - total refusal to play the Emperor's New Clothes game. It's funny how much stick RD gets for his really rather restrained "disrespecting" of religion, but this is the full-on stuff which really tells it like it is. It's NONSENSE, period. And it's a sheer bloody outrage that we're not only asked to respect it, but that it influences our lives in so many ways.

And the likes of Eagleton can dress up the nonsense with BS sophistry and fallacious appeals to authority as much as they like, it's still the same old rank, irrational idiocy no matter how many empty, airy concepts you try to dress it in. Articles like this are like a breath of fresh air.

7. Comment #3793 by William on October 31, 2006 at 4:50 pm

Hi Steve! Hello Jack! Great points!

What a great article! I like Muriel! Muriel said:

>>there is nothing more political than how we educate the next generation of British citizens.<<

This is right on the button. I recently found out that both my kids have been taught all the religious drivel (of many differing faiths), but NOTHING of Darwinian Natural Selection! That changed though, once I found out. And they love my teachings!

What annoys me more than President Bush is Blair. Blair is pushing for these faith schools. He is an idiot. They'd love us all to be at war with other faiths - all in the name of Christianity. Maybe they yearn for the days of the Crusades, eh?

Can you imagine the scene at Camp David? President Bush and Blair are chatting about their beliefs after a fantastic steak meal. They pray together and thank God for the delicious treat.

After revealing that, they are both strong Christians, they decide that something needs to be done about these 'damned' Muslim Terrorists in Iraq. They decide that they are going to remove them and get the black Gold, as a bonus - and they are going to need a good reason for doing so. The President hears God and knows he will be okay with the American people. Blair knows we won't fall for that and decides we need to be an unsafe country.

Tell me: Now that we have murdered hundreds of thousands of Muslims, do YOU feel any safer? I don't. Do you feel happy to have such a great Christian leader at the helm? Do you have any respect for a man who can contravene his most fundamental core beliefs of his faith?

Why doesn't Blair actually practice his faith? Surely, one of the highest commands of religion is 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.

Yes, there is a time for war, but was Iraq REALLY that time? If I am wrong to be Atheist and God is really there, do you think he will be happy with Good ol' Tony come judgement day? I heard him say that he believed he really did a good deed.

Us Atheists, I'll bet, would NEVER have invaded a country on such a preposterous set of lies - and this highlights to us 'freethinkers' (I like that term, Nebularry) what is wrong with people that vomit religion as a good thing, yet commit evil acts within that religion.

There intolerance of each other, there clinging of their comfort-blankets, result in the suffering of children, globally. They DISGUST me with their ignorance. Ignorance of what is wrong with themselves, instead of coming on this forum and telling us why WE are wrong.

I think The God Delusion sums it all up pretty nicely. I wish Professor Dawkins all the best in what he does. A voice of reason is DESPERATELY needed in these volatile times. We are in danger, as a species of causing our own extinction through our own stupidity.

Kind Regards, William.

PS. I have NOTHING but respect for our armed forces. I support them ALWAYS. I'll be wearing my Poppy, even if Camilla can't be bothered. My problem is not with the soldiers - but the idiotic governments that send our brave young men, half way around the world to die, when their deaths may not have been necessary. I wish all soldiers, both American and British, a speedy safe return soon.

8. Comment #3800 by Susan on October 31, 2006 at 6:02 pm

What a wonderful article. Can this woman please be cloned and then distribute her clones all over America with lots of them here in Alabama where the Jesus people are everywhere.

9. Comment #3830 by Randy Ping on October 31, 2006 at 11:57 pm

This same thing has happened here in America with schooling vouchers and governmental funding of "faith based initiatives".

10. Comment #3836 by Serge on November 1, 2006 at 1:42 am

Well, I agree with all Muriel has to say in this article, although I'm not sure about creating a new name: I'm happy with all the ones that are currently used to insult me!!

One serious point though: Muriel is preaching to the 'converted' (or de-converted if you like). I have serious doubts whether religiously superstitious people would ever be convinced of the irrationality of their beliefs by rational arguments. Let's start with giving our children a factual education and arm them with intellectual inquisitiveness.

'A Grandad'

11. Comment #3845 by Haymoon on November 1, 2006 at 4:07 am

Nebularry wrote

>>But why can't we just be "free-thinkers"<<

How about going the whole hog and call ourselves "thinkers". The "other side" don't seem to do much of it - thinking, I mean.

12. Comment #3861 by Jack Rawlinson on November 1, 2006 at 6:32 am

On the naming thing... I think good old "rationalist" works. But all labels run the risk of being restrictive.

13. Comment #3874 by William on November 1, 2006 at 8:48 am

I've read all the above points and everyone here has made valid arguments.

Serge said:

>>One serious point though: Muriel is preaching to the 'converted' (or de-converted if you like). I have serious doubts whether religiously superstitious people would ever be convinced of the irrationality of their beliefs by rational arguments. Let's start with giving our children a factual education and arm them with intellectual inquisitiveness.<<

I couldn't agree more. I'd wager, that most rational, logical, unhindered thinking children would reject many religions if they were shown the other side of the coin. My oldest is 13 and yet has hardly been shown anything of natural Darwinian selection.

Haymoon said:

>>How about going the whole hog and call ourselves "thinkers". The "other side" don't seem to do much of it - thinking, I mean. <<

This is so very true. I wouldn't mind so much, but they are NASTY with their irrational beliefs. This extends to what Paul Stern correctly said:

>>To those of us who reject any and all religious fantasies, choosing the term atheist or any other makes no difference. The inescapable fact is that all religous belief starts with fear of death. The very brave can laugh in its face, but for most it is the ultimate fright. So, we seek comfort in tales of an afterlife with lots of rewards/punishments which satisfies both our fears and desires. Since we can tailor our deities any way we like, opposing religious beliefs is a near hopeless challenge.<<

I'd agree entirely. We ARE fearful of death - every species, of any sentient capacity is. These religions offer hope to those who can't envisage that they will be deceased for an eternity.

As Professor Dawkins states though, because something may be true, does not mean we should ignore it. Theists come in here and think they have a debate - but have they? Have they REALLY thought things through? There are billions of complexities that have no real meaning and only questions, as to why.

What is the point of a disease like Progeria? What kind of a God, could find that awful disease as a benefit to mankind? Yet, reject the God equation, and Progeria can be seen as an unwanted (for mankind) disease that is fighting for its own existence - as much as every other living thing.

Every Theist in here is just pushing me further into Atheism. And all the rational, usually intelligent, free-thinking Atheists above, confirm that Atheism with their approach to REALITY. The one true REALITY that we experience as a species.

Kind Regards, William.

14. Comment #3884 by Steve on November 1, 2006 at 9:43 am

Corin, I strongly agree with your comment #3882. It seems as though idiots gain consolation, from having nonsense beliefs, by making their children idoits.

misery loves company.

15. Comment #3888 by Jonathan Dore on November 1, 2006 at 10:01 am

Corin writes: "You are presuming here that the parents do not want their children raised and educated in their superstitious belief systems. Nothing could be further from the truth. One need only look to various on-going debates in the United States over the inclusion of [un]'intelligent design' and similar garbage to realise that the majority of people do not aspire for better education and more learning for their offspring. They seek to perpetuate their religious and cultural beliefs and bigotries first and foremost."

Obviously true, Corin, but I think Muriel Gray is addressing the slightly different situation in the UK. There, the historical background is that "faith-based" schools (which used to mean just Anglican, RC, and Jewish ones) were certainly means of indoctrinating future generations in religion, but were not traditionally fundamentalist or anti-intellectual in the way their US counterparts that you mention typically are. The right they were given to select pupils on religious grounds (while unaffiliated schools were obliged to take anyone within their catchment area) meant they were also able to select disproportionately middle-class, well-off pupils with supportive parents. That in turn meant they were wealthier, and nicer places to work, and so attracted the best teachers, which made even non-religious parents willing to fake an interest in religion in order to get their kids into a good school. That means that religious schools (particularly Anglican ones) are now loaded with children of secular parents who, if given the choice, would *love* to be able to move their kid to a high-quality secular alternative. This is the pent-up need that Muriel is referring to.

16. Comment #3954 by Paul Grant on November 1, 2006 at 5:14 pm

Finding a name or word we can all agree on to describe non believers appears to be virtually impossible, perhaps we should be looking for a common symbol instead. After all, religions use symbols to great effect, just think of the number of people you see wearing crucifixes.

A symbol could be worn discreetly as a pin of perhaps more prominently as a pendent. Either way it would help us identify like minded people and, if enough people display it, make us much more difficult to ignore.

But what would be an appropriate symbol? The Brights came up with a logo depicting rays of light but that doesn’t seam to have caught on.

I have long thought a circle or ring would be an ideal symbol. Why? because a circle represents zero, as in the number of gods that exist. It also has a certain irony, at least from the Christian perspective. Think of tick tack toe, otherwise known as noughts and crosses, a pointless game you can only win if your opponent is mistaken!

I envisage a circle fashioned from square section bar and given a 90 degree twist before being joined. This forms a sort of three dimensional Mobius strip with the interesting property of having only one side, as in only one side can be right.

With the release of “The God Delusion” perhaps the time is right for a symbol. Maybe one could be promoted by RichardDawkins.net with the proceeds going to The Richard Dawkins Foundation!

17. Comment #3957 by William on November 1, 2006 at 5:39 pm

Interesting points Paul. What about a DNA molecule? I've never seen anything more beautiful, in microscopic form - mind, I don't have access to a microscope that often!

Corin said:

>>You are presuming here that the parents do not want their children raised and educated in their superstitious belief systems. Nothing could be further from the truth. One need only look to various on-going debates in the United States over the inclusion of [un]'intelligent design' and similar garbage to realise that the majority of people do not aspire for better education and more learning for their offspring. They seek to perpetuate their religious and cultural beliefs and bigotries first and foremost. Unless they perceive that there is an advantage to an education system not saddled with religious bunk, they will not support it.<<

I'm afraid this is most true. My parents had stong faith - my Mother still insists on believing the tripe, but my Father has come around to an Agnostic/ Atheistic viewpoint. He came to the same conclusions independently of my views.

I found out on Saturday that my Grandmother (my Mother's Mother), used to say to my Mother some really horrid things. Such as "You fell over and got hurt because God is punishing you."

Now, I am not going to slander my own Grandmother. I respect and honour her. This was put into her as a child of a Victorian Dad. You know the types. Kids in bed by 6PM (Yes, my Nan had to be in bed by 6PM upto the age of 21), kids getting beat up - infact, my Nan was the oldest of 10 and SHE used to get the beating, if any of the other 9 played up - as she was the eldest.

Too often these days, we hear older folk longing for the 'good old days'. But in truth, I don't think we should be going back there, do you?

I truly believe that the remaining Theists on this planet YEARN for the days of a powerful, over-bearing, all-knowing church. I truly believe many of them wish we were back in caves. They think scientific people need a 'lesson in manners', when in truth, many of their creed are the ones who need lessons in manners... or at least humility.

Kind Regards, William.

18. Comment #4011 by Mike on November 2, 2006 at 3:33 am

This is the exact conversation that all newly formed rock bands spend their first six months having ... what the h*** do we call ourselves .. in fact most bands never get any further ... a lesson to the wise.

19. Comment #4020 by Martin on November 2, 2006 at 4:21 am

"Seeing a gaggle of nuns or a holy man got up in his collar and robes I'm always reminded of children playing at role playing games, with quests, medieval costumes and make believe deities. Seems the most succinct title for those of us who choose not to play, if we need one, is 'Adults'"

I object... I have friends who do "live role-play". The difference between adults that dress up to pretend to be knights and what have you is that they know they are pretending and hence retain a firm grip on reality.

20. Comment #4113 by William on November 2, 2006 at 10:31 am

An unusual name - for an Atheist, Melbranche!

I too, do NOT change my stance when alone. As an Atheist, I actually prefer to be alone, when thinking about existence.

I'd say that thinking about existence alone, only clarifies my position of an Atheist.

I can't subscribe to this God lark. There are some real Pious individuals, who REALLY believe that condemning homosexuals - for instance - will win them favour with God. This highlights their warped sense of view - because, surely, if they really believed, then they'd leave the judgement to their God?

Kind Regards, William.

21. Comment #4902 by rob on November 6, 2006 at 8:55 pm

"Do you really want to spend untold centuries trapped in a body that no longer functions, lying in your own waste, blind, deaf, and otherwise senseless?"

Hmmm. I think the religious alternative to death doesn't fit your description.

If I say I am "fearful" of death, I am implying "fear of getting old and dying". Obviously I don't want to stay forever in the exact state I was at the moment I would have otherwise died.

I think fear of death, or at least a strong tendancy to try to avoid death, is pretty strong in humans, for obvious Darwinian reasons.

22. Comment #6970 by Laurie on November 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm

...Perhaps we should adapt, as a basic rule for all humanity to start from..Asimov's three Laws Of Robotics..something like this -
1. A human being may not harm another human being.
2. A human being may not allow another to be harmed by any inaction or action that is likely to harm another.
3. A human being must protect itself except where it conflicts with the first two laws.

Er. That works, doesn't it?

23. Comment #7577 by Aussie on November 18, 2006 at 8:47 pm

We don't need names as much as motivators.

What drives the religious? Simple:

The promise of Heaven and the threat of Hell.
The promise of eternal life versus the threat of eternal damnation.

This is why those people keep knocking on your door.

They are pretty strong motivators. Until we come up with something comparable we will always be operating at a disadvantage.

24. Comment #19367 by Stafford Gordon on January 26, 2007 at 2:53 pm

The very first paragragh does it.

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25. Comment #19373 by Russell Blackford on January 26, 2007 at 5:14 pm

There's already an expression for this: "Enlightenment liberal". Somehow, it has become very unfashionable to declare yourself to be an Enlightenment liberal, but I think it's something to be proud of. It puts you in good company with the likes of Locke and Hume and the French philosophes ... and in the same great tradition as Bentham, Mill, and Bertrand Russell. It distinguishes you from necessarily agreeing with either the radical egalitarianism of American liberal thinkers like Rawls (who expressly denies being an Enlightenment liberal), or in the mix of right-wing policies favoured by the so-called "Liberal Party" here in Australia.

Enlightenment liberals can range across a fair bit of the political spectrum - from relatively democratic socialist positions on economics to more libertarian positions - but we are united in being distrustful of religion ... and, really, in believing pretty much all the things that Ms Gray set out.

The world needs more Enlightenment liberals.

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26. Comment #21914 by Pilot22A on February 11, 2007 at 4:55 pm

We are Atheists.

We exist only because there are Theists.

The word Atheist fits and is appropriate.

Just because theists have turned this innocuous word into a byword, changes nothing.

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