THANK GOODNESS!
There are no atheists in foxholes, according to an old but dubious saying, and there is at least a little anecdotal evidence in favor of it in the notorious cases of famous atheists who have emerged from near-death experiences to announce to the world that they have changed their minds. The British philosopher Sir A. J. Ayer, who died in 1989, is a fairly recent example. Here is another anecdote to ponder.3. Comment #4646 by MakingBelieve on November 5, 2006 at 4:37 am
Fantastic! I'm so glad this harrowing experience didn't change his brilliant clarity of thought and expression. I have made a donation to the Canadian Heart & Stroke Foundation in your honour.4. Comment #4685 by Jack Rawlinson on November 5, 2006 at 11:09 am
Get well soon, Dan. And thanks for the piece. Religious people need to know that some of us can face fear and death without retreating into superstition. Thank goodness, indeed....5. Comment #4738 by Paul Caira on November 5, 2006 at 4:56 pm
Get well soon, Dan. You're my hero.6. Comment #4740 by Paul Caira on November 5, 2006 at 5:03 pm
After reading the article in detail, I paid £15 to a heart charity (the British Heart Foundation, admittedly, but I assume it's all to the greater good of hearts everywhere).8. Comment #4868 by Al Steuart on November 6, 2006 at 4:25 pm
I appreciate you are feeling happy, I assume, that you survived and are still among us living organisms and I appreciate your thanking not some "spirit" but thanking the persons whose behaviors increased your chances of continuing to live. Regarding those persons who were praying for you, at least, I assume, they were thinking about you. If they were praying to the Christian God for your recovery from this event, I am wondering if any of them considered that this God, if omnipotent and omniscient, was surely aware of your event and, presumably, knew the outcome no matter what the prayers - wouldn't a "god" know that?11. Comment #4990 by LadySpankington on November 7, 2006 at 5:53 am
Thank goodness alright!12. Comment #4995 by Megan on November 7, 2006 at 6:31 am
Wonderful! As a clinician, I have often marveled at how frequently patients give their god the credit when things go well, and blame the clinician when things go poorly. What a great gig that god has going!13. Comment #5005 by David on November 7, 2006 at 7:03 am
Best wishes for a speedy recovery! Your continued eloquence and shining example of intellectual honesty are much needed.14. Comment #5017 by William on November 7, 2006 at 8:07 am
Hi Billy!15. Comment #5056 by Jonathan Dore on November 7, 2006 at 9:12 am
Billy17. Comment #5113 by DrBrianRobinson on November 7, 2006 at 1:01 pm
Oops, that comment 51 was from me, I must remember to look at the lines in the little boxes more closely.18. Comment #5264 by Al Steuart on November 8, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Regarding Codonya's comment (#22) to my comment (#21), I appreciate the comments, but I regret you expressed your evaluation of my comment rather than responding to the questions I posed to Dennett. Since Dennett chose to publicly express his thoughts about his heart attack experience and his not changing his belief in the existence of no gods, then I did assume that his thinking processes were not affected by his heart attack and I did assume that his statements about some words read or heard "warming" his heart and those same words producing a "boost" in his morale were reflections of his thoughts about how feelings (and thoughts) are created. I was not and am not now thinking that Dennett shared his thoughts for the purpose of getting expressions of "sympathy" or "get well" wishes or additional "prayers." I am thinking that in his thoughts shared he was communicating that he "believes" (thinks) that words read or heard have some magical power to generate thoughts and feelings in others. I am wondering if you might be thinking similar thoughts? I think DE Ford (comment $ 41)does think that words (or actions) seen or heard do have some sort of power to generate various thoughts and feelings in others. Because "B" follows "A" then "A" must be the "cause" of "B" - I do hope we agree that such a pattern of thinking has been identified as a "fallacy" in thinking? If desired, perhaps we could continue a discussion of this in some forum at this web site?19. Comment #5276 by codonya on November 8, 2006 at 2:34 pm
I think you are right about the forum...I'll share a couple thoughts, and then we can continue elsewhere. You can name the forum.20. Comment #5554 by Max on November 9, 2006 at 11:52 pm
Dan,21. Comment #5692 by Al Steuart on November 10, 2006 at 1:52 pm
Regarding Codonya's reply to me (#58), I have posted a message in the forum "The God Delusion Book Discussion" that concerns the topic of "Language: Validity and Accuracy" so any discussion of my comment regarding words not having the power to generate feelings (emotions or thoughts or actions, for that matter)in a person may continue in that forum - since I see statements in Dawkins book The God Delusion that communicate something similar to what Dennett communicated regarding those "warm" feelings and that "morale" being uplifted.22. Comment #5866 by codonya on November 11, 2006 at 12:46 pm
Wow Malcom, that's rough. You got people around you who are sympathetic with you wanting to make your way through this sticking with the rational? I sure understand the how the God stuff can sound alluring—promises of comfort and watching over your family in the event that you couldn't. I had a conversion experience in my teens and was a fundamentalist for about 4 years. Early on trying to make it without the social support of the church that I'd invested all my and relationships in not to mention the world view that answered most of the tough questions (until I learned more) was pretty rough going. I used to wonder if I would end up getting scared enough if I were aware that I was dying that I would revert back. Though even if I did revert, technically I dout I would have believed, but like Dennett has written about, I would have wanted to believe (believed in belief).23. Comment #10303 by Anonymous on November 27, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Concerning comment made by #5232, Lydia Hartunian:24. Comment #276528 by Cowcakes on November 2, 2008 at 12:17 am
25. Comment #307883 by Bacopa on December 28, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Dan, If what I read about you in your essay "Where Am I?" is true, your brain was never in danger. Presumably Fortinbras is giving out on you. Or is this the other body you hinted about at the end of your paper, the one that was supposed to resolve the Yorrick/Hubert dispute? Is it Yorrick or Hubert who controls this body? Did Yorrick/Hubert ever get that second body? I know back in 1980 or '81 you took measures to not know which mind was hooked up to your body? Did you change your mind? Is it Yorrick or Hubert who went through this? Was Hubert simply killed? He's just a machine after all. And why bother with operating on Fortinbras? NASA gave you Fortinbras, I'm sure they can find you a Guildenstern, or even an Ophelia if you want the best sex-change ever.26. Comment #385643 by rscriven on June 6, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I have a really hard time with the view that my belief in God makes me a "weaker" person. I believe that my struggles with my "self" and my beliefs have been very difficult. I don't believe that I am "taking the easy way out." I wish that I had the time to discuss this further, but simply cannot at this time.
1. Comment #4621 by Randy Ping on November 4, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Get well soon , Dan. You are a true inspiration.