Losing Our Religion4. Comment #5776 by RascoHeldall on November 11, 2006 at 2:51 am
Science is more comforting than religion could ever be. Having an inkling of why we're here that we can be confident is at least a step in the right direction of the truth, rather than a made-up stab in the dark, is such a liberating feeling, and it saddens me that the majority of the population just don't know enough evolutionary science to be able to put two and two together. IF ONLY biological sciences were taught properly in schools (i.e. from an evolutionary perspective) then perhaps fewer people would grow up trying desperately to believe in a fairytale because they don't think there is any alternative explanation for their lives.5. Comment #5788 by David on November 11, 2006 at 4:12 am
From Mikel: "I would bet that children raised by atheist parents would not find religion nearly comforting enough to ignore science - perhaps our propensity to take comfort in the meme-complex of religion is, itself, a meme-complex."6. Comment #5790 by Roy on November 11, 2006 at 4:18 am
Joad:-7. Comment #5796 by writerdd on November 11, 2006 at 5:34 am
You certainly can have a religious experience as a nonbeliever. I can do it voluntarily whenever I like and I also still have these experiences at various times while in nature, listening to music, and so forth. Perhaps it is because I was a believer when I was younger, so I know what a religious experience feels like. Dawkins, on the other hand, has never had a "genuine" religious experience (that is, one as a believer), therefore he has nothing to compare. He probably has such experiences and just does not recognize them for what they are. I believe they are part in parcel of the human experience.8. Comment #5806 by Youssef51 on November 11, 2006 at 6:59 am
"And finally of course there is no contest - empirical rationalism wins every time. If it didn't we wouldn't use it to run our legal system, our healthcare system etc. etc."9. Comment #5833 by Anonymous on November 11, 2006 at 10:20 am
Religion should have the same standards as other products marketed to the public. Please prove that eternal life is the after death experience.11. Comment #6022 by Russ on November 12, 2006 at 8:33 am
I'm not sitting on the fence anymore. I've started my own blog "Complete Materialist" at www.completematerialist.blogspot.com. I write letters to the editor as often as I can but letters are limited to 150 words, so ideas cannot really be developed. So few words can barely state a concern much less allow it to be thoughtfully addressed.12. Comment #6180 by Anonymous on November 13, 2006 at 2:30 am
"But I think it would be better to draw the distinction here that it is the institution of religion that is responsible for this harm as opposed to the personal belief in something greater than ourselves."13. Comment #6290 by Stever on November 13, 2006 at 1:50 pm
Joe Killian: You wrote: "But I dare say that there is no scientific way to disprove the theory that the supernatural exists. You may use some sort of mathematical gibberish to calculate the "odds" against such things but the reality is that people of the world believe in some form of "God" by the overwhelming majority."14. Comment #6314 by seals on November 13, 2006 at 3:27 pm
"If we actually held human life as sacred, religion would not dare abuse it."15. Comment #6363 by Jonathan Dore on November 13, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Joe Killian writes: "I must (reluctantly) admit that human beings religious belief is the foundation of all of our culture, art, education and even science! It is the evolution of religion along with the human species mind that has brought us all to the here and now." --- I note that no one has disputed this part of my comment!"16. Comment #6470 by seals on November 14, 2006 at 12:38 pm
"I have no idea what you really mean by 'something greater than ourselves'. Do you mean heavier, or taller? If so, then the elephant is certainly greater."17. Comment #6569 by Jonathan Dore on November 15, 2006 at 12:27 am
Hi Joe (comment 35)18. Comment #6612 by John Phillips on November 15, 2006 at 5:26 am
"These myths you despise so much have been telling us who and what we are for longer than the last 150 years (the time science has expanded nearly incomprehensibly)".
1. Comment #5737 by Cineaste on November 10, 2006 at 6:22 pm
I don't know. I think the article poses a valid question. Can science substitute for a belief in God? I guess the author means, can science replace the comfort, the bliss, one gets from ignorance. I don't think it can; for science is exactly the opposite of ignorance. When Steven Weinberg said, "It's hard to live in a world in which one's highest emotions can be understood in biochemical and evolutionary terms" I believe he is saying that it's hard to live with the burden of truth. It's easier and more comforting for people to live in ignorance. Sorry for being trite.