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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 | Reason : Science of Religion | print version Print | Comments |

Document Faith Won't Heal a Divided World

by Sam Harris / On Faith

The note from Sam Harris' mailing list:
"The Washington Post and Newsweek have jointly launched a website to discuss religion. Sam has signed on as one of the bloggers. This looks like it will be an interesting forum in which to have a discussion about the problem of faith, as Sally Quinn (Washington Post) and Jon Meacham (Newsweek) have attracted an impressive group of panelists. This may be the only opportunity to see Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, and Sam tangle with the likes of Bishop Desmond Tutu."

Reposted from:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sam_harris/2006/11/faith_and_an_undivided_world.html

"On Faith" panelist Sam Harris is the author of the best-selling books Letter to a Christian Nation (2006) and The End of Faith (2005), which won the 2005 PEN Award for Nonfiction and has been translated into many foreign languages.

Most Christians believe that Jesus was the Son of God and, therefore, divine; Muslims, however, believe that Jesus was not divine and that anyone who thinks otherwise will suffer the torments of hell (Koran 5:71-75; 19:30-38). This difference of opinion offers about as much room for compromise as a coin toss.

If there is common ground to be found through interfaith dialogue, it will only be found by people who are willing to keep their eyes averted from the chasm that divides their faith from all others. It is time we began to wonder whether such a strategy of politeness and denial will ever heal the divisions in our world.

True dialogue requires a willingness to have one's beliefs about reality modified through conversation. Such an openness to criticism and inquiry is the very antithesis of dogmatism. It is worth observing that religion is the one area of our lives where faith in dogma -- that is, belief without sufficient evidence -- is considered a virtue. If such faith is a virtue, it is a virtue that is completely unknown to scientific discourse. Science is, in fact, the one domain in which a person can win considerable prestige for proving himself wrong. In science, honesty is all. In religion, faith is all. This is about as invidious as comparisons get.

Whenever human beings make an honest effort to get at the truth, they reliably transcend the accidents of their birth and upbringing. It would, of course, be absurd to speak of "Christian physics" or "Muslim algebra." And there is no such thing as Iraqi or Japanese -- as distinct from American -- science. Reasonable people really do have a monopoly on the truth. And while they might not agree about everything in the near term, common ground surrounds them on all sides. Consequently, there is no significant impediments within scientific discourse: It isn't always pretty, but the conversation continues without appeals to force or deference to dogma. There are scientific dogmas, of course, but wherever they are found, they are set upon with hammer blows. In science, it is a cardinal sin to pretend to know something that you do not know. Such pretense is the very essence of religious faith.

It is not an accident that scientific discourse has produced an extraordinary convergence of opinion and remarkable results. What has interfaith dialogue produced? Meetings between representatives of the world's major religions yield little more than platitudinous calls for peace and a willingness to ignore what many participants strongly believe -- that every other party to the conversation will probably spend eternity in hell for his misconceptions about God. The differences between scientific and religious discourse should tell us something about where to place our hopes for an undivided world.

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1. Comment #6800 by David S on November 15, 2006 at 3:56 pm

Sam Harris does it again, he hit it right on the head. This blog that has been set up will make for some very interesting reading.

2. Comment #6821 by Tony on November 15, 2006 at 5:28 pm

I wish that I could write as cogently as Harris does. Unfortunately, my emotions often get the better of me when I, being quite exasperated, attempt to challenge the unjustified notions of religious believers. We ignore Sam Harris's insights at our own peril. Also, if anyone has ever seen Harris conduct himself in an interview they would probably be in awe of his poise and composure. Along with Dawkins and Daniel Dennett, we have no better spokespersons for the anti-supernatural community.

3. Comment #6836 by Imagine on November 15, 2006 at 7:01 pm

I just read the Harris article, and also the article by R. Albert Mohler Jr.

Many atheists are concerned that Dawkins and Harris are too harsh in their attacks on religion, because of the possibility that these attacks could galvanize all religious moderates and liberals, in effect making them less liberal, in response to the attacks.

But after reading the Mohler article, I'm curious as to what the rest of you think: could these attacks by Dawkins and Harris conceivably even unite the different religions in a spiritual (and hopefully not physical) war against atheism? This could be a good thing, because if the different sects can find some area of compromise and agreement, perhaps they will even find a place in their sympathies for us one day.

More importantly, no war.

4. Comment #6851 by Randy Ping on November 15, 2006 at 9:05 pm

>>What has interfaith dialogue produced? Meetings between representatives of the world's major religions yield little more than platitudinous calls for peace and a willingness to ignore what many participants strongly believe -- that every other party to the conversation will probably spend eternity in hell for his misconceptions about God.>>

Sam! Dude, You TOTAY dropped the ball with that one. You are dead wrong! Why, just within the last week, all three of the Abrahamic faiths agreed in concert that they have the absolute blind and religiously motivated HATRED for gays.
So be fair and honest. :P
Bwuahahahahahaaa!

5. Comment #6853 by Randy Ping on November 15, 2006 at 9:27 pm

Sorry about the typo, sometimes I get letters jumbled when reading and typing. But I will try harder. :(

6. Comment #6885 by Tintern on November 16, 2006 at 4:15 am

This point about having the honest conversations is the standout point for me from both of Sam's books. Of all the necessary facets of the struggle for enlightenment, it is the one where you can almost physically see how quickly a breakthrough would bring about change.

7. Comment #6901 by Tony on November 16, 2006 at 6:10 am

To Randy Ping:

Many religious leaders indeed have met together in the spirit of ecumenism in order to find common ground. Many have been able to reach out to other faiths with compassion and understanding. Unfortunately, their efforts have so far failed. Moderate Muslims have been unable to stem the tide of hatred and intolerance among their faithful. Moderate Christians and Jews have also been equally impotent in their abilities to counter the outrageous behavior of their own extremist elements. The moderates may say "They don't represent our faith! They are a perversion of our message." The problem is that the extremists don't think so. Even worse, the extremists/fundamentalists actually have their own holy text as proof. You can say what you want about fundamentalists but at least they are honest when it comes to interpreting their own holy books. In fact, I have an easier time conversing with fundamentalists because at least we are both talking about the same thing. The moderates like to insist upon a watered-down, tolerant hermeneutics that simply doesn't wash when you actually read the texts. The voices of moderation have been drowned out by the bombs of the jihadists and anti-abortionists.

8. Comment #6926 by Tony on November 16, 2006 at 7:48 am

To Randy:

I hope you don't think my last post was a rebuke of your earlier ones. I do get your joke. I am, of course, in complete agreement with you.

Just had to throw that in there.

9. Comment #6974 by Steven Mading on November 16, 2006 at 12:27 pm

The best thing about science is that in science since the ultimate authority on truth is not a person, nor a book, but the universe itself. If one scientist has a dispute with another scientist over what the truth is, that dispute is carried out by using the universe itself as the final judge and arbitrator - by devising tests that check the facts against the universe itself. The same cannot be said of religion, and that's why religious disagreements go on forever without resolution. There is no way to reconcile two arguments that are both based on nothing more than apppeal to authority.

10. Comment #6981 by Steven Mading on November 16, 2006 at 12:56 pm

One thing I respect Sam Harris for is his courage to stand up and say the unpopular truth that the moderate religious people enable the fundamentalists by their insistence that all religious opinions must be treated with respect no matter what. If a political position is based on invalid reasoning to enable an agenda of hate, we as a society see nothing wrong with standing up to it and pointing out how factually wrong it is, and we see nothing wrong with being rude when doing so, espeically if the one reacting in that manner is the target of that hate being spewed. But when it's religion suddenly it flip-flops the other way around. If someone's religious views, rather than political views, are based on invalid reasoning to enable an agenda of hate, then we as a society don't stand up to it the same way. We pretend that it is deserving of some respect just because it's religious in nature. Futhermore, those who do stand up to it are viewed as being the bad guys by the religious moderates.

The sectarian strife in the world will never abate while that attitude is in place. As long as people continue to hold that religious opinions are more deserving of respect than other opinions just because they are religious, then those who want to escape condemnation for their hateful views will continue to couch their rhetoric in religious terms. They know that doing so buys them immunity from condemnation.



Keep up the good work, Sam. Speaking unpopular truths takes courage.
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