Math Skills Suffer in U.S., Study Finds2. Comment #263130 by lmsmall on October 10, 2008 at 9:43 am
3. Comment #263135 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 9:53 am
"We're living in a culture that is telling girls you can't do math; that's telling everybody that only Asians and nerds do math,"
4. Comment #263142 by evotruth on October 10, 2008 at 10:04 am
5. Comment #263144 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 10:05 am
6. Comment #263145 by quantum_flux on October 10, 2008 at 10:07 am
7. Comment #263149 by mismos00 on October 10, 2008 at 10:14 am
8. Comment #263151 by mismos00 on October 10, 2008 at 10:17 am
9. Comment #263153 by God fearing Atheist on October 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
10. Comment #263155 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 10:27 am
11. Comment #263157 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 10:32 am
12. Comment #263163 by mismos00 on October 10, 2008 at 10:42 am
13. Comment #263167 by firstelder_d on October 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
We're living in a culture that is telling girls you can't do math
14. Comment #263168 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
girls ARE NOT as good as men at math
15. Comment #263169 by Bonzai on October 10, 2008 at 10:48 am
16. Comment #263170 by comfortablydumb on October 10, 2008 at 10:49 am
Eh about half of my real analysis class is female, and my abstract algebra and topology classes had decent mixes as well. As a math student myself I had been under the impression things were changing in that regard, even that bastion of nerdiness the math club has been infiltrated.17. Comment #263172 by DamnDirtyApe on October 10, 2008 at 10:51 am
Hmm... America having a poor standard of mathematics in its citizens, at round the same time its economy goes into massive recession.18. Comment #263179 by Lucas on October 10, 2008 at 11:16 am
In the U.S. and Canada training for highschool math teachers consists of doing a year of show and tell and other nonsense.
19. Comment #263180 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 11:19 am
20. Comment #263182 by black_fire on October 10, 2008 at 11:23 am
But...but...Asians ARE good at math!21. Comment #263187 by Bonzai on October 10, 2008 at 11:29 am
Most of the top math students at my husband's school last year were women.
22. Comment #263188 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 11:32 am
23. Comment #263196 by Overmann on October 10, 2008 at 11:46 am
No surprise, really. I was about to raise my fist and stomp my feet that I excel in math and am a US citizen but, alas, I was actually born in Germany.24. Comment #263199 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on October 10, 2008 at 11:47 am
Caudimordax> I have no idea where you are, therefor I cannot cite specific requirements... However I know in good ol' bassackwards NC, the people running a teacher certification program have to pass accreditation. The programs I've seen, and the one from which I received my master's degree and certification required split hours between education courses taught by people with doctoral degrees in education or psych, and courses in the subject area of your degree, along with a thesis. I would make the assumption that the math folks had to deal with the same hurdles I did, so they've completed a minumum of 18 hours in each, plus internship in teaching and a thesis.25. Comment #263201 by mismos00 on October 10, 2008 at 11:49 am
26. Comment #263205 by lmsmall on October 10, 2008 at 11:53 am
27. Comment #263208 by Bonzai on October 10, 2008 at 11:55 am
Maybe you haven't looked at the raw statistics then.
28. Comment #263210 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 11:58 am
29. Comment #263213 by Caudimordax on October 10, 2008 at 11:59 am
30. Comment #263218 by Wosret on October 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I'm completely ignorant of math. I can do basic multiplication, and division, and I'm pretty good at doing it in my head. I never use a calculator while shopping, I do quick averages, and always land within a dollar or two of my estimated total, but I couldn't even name other forms of math, let alone do them.31. Comment #263219 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on October 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Caudimordax> I'm sure he did... and this is a good point. Some, but certainly not all of the people teaching the methods courses (how to teach whatever) were former K-12 teachers. I don't know if they were in your husband's case, but they should have been.32. Comment #263220 by Bonzai on October 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Infuriated - I wasn't suggesting that future math teachers are being taught by dummies, just that math teachers aren't being taught by certified math teachers
33. Comment #263222 by liberalartist on October 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
34. Comment #263227 by InfuriatedSciTeacher on October 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Bonzai> There's something to be said for being taught by BOTH. For the concepts themselves, and a modeling approach, I would definitely want to be taught by someone with training in the field of study. Yet it's also necessary to have some insight into how the students' brains are working, methods that are tried and tested for that age level, etc, and for these things the Math ed people would come into play. I do know (yes, argument from personal experience, no stats here) that a fair percentage of the professors I had as a Bio undergrad weren't particularly adept at teaching science in any form other than pure lecture.35. Comment #263231 by Wosret on October 10, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Also, about the submitting of articles...one of the ones I submit about yuri daily will be posted eventually... I mean they have too, a lot of them involve Catholic school girls. 36. Comment #263240 by Border Collie on October 10, 2008 at 12:21 pm
37. Comment #263258 by quantum_flux on October 10, 2008 at 12:49 pm
38. Comment #263259 by 8teist on October 10, 2008 at 12:50 pm
39. Comment #263260 by rod-the-farmer on October 10, 2008 at 12:51 pm
40. Comment #263266 by cerad on October 10, 2008 at 1:01 pm
41. Comment #263277 by Sciros on October 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm
42. Comment #263288 by black_fire on October 10, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Dangerous Knowledge: Mathematics, Insanity, and God43. Comment #263294 by Paine on October 10, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I participated in the Maths Olympiad in high school. Not the International one, but I made it to the national level.44. Comment #263297 by treeman17 on October 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm
45. Comment #263311 by qomak on October 10, 2008 at 2:32 pm
46. Comment #263312 by Bonzai on October 10, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I`m so bad at math I can hardly figure out how to use my calculator.:)
47. Comment #263315 by Wosret on October 10, 2008 at 2:42 pm
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49. Comment #263317 by Wosret on October 10, 2008 at 2:49 pm
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