'I have never been happier' says the man who won gold but lost God2. Comment #268065 by HandyGeek on October 21, 2008 at 11:33 am
3. Comment #268076 by JerryD385 on October 21, 2008 at 11:45 am
Not only is this fascinating, but it boosts my confidence in the notion that anyone can use critical thinking and reason to overcome delusion.4. Comment #268100 by Matt H. on October 21, 2008 at 12:12 pm

If there is no God, does that mean that life has no purpose? Does it mean that personal existence ends at death? They are thoughts that do my head in. One thing that I can say, however, is that even if I am unable to discover some fundamental purpose to life, this will not give me a reason to return to Christianity. Just because something is unpalatable does not mean that it is not true.
Jonathan Edwards
5. Comment #268108 by severalspeciesof on October 21, 2008 at 12:24 pm
6. Comment #268111 by FatherNature on October 21, 2008 at 12:26 pm
7. Comment #268113 by Big City on October 21, 2008 at 12:28 pm
"It was as if during my 20-plus-year career in athletics, I had been suspended in time...I was so preoccupied with training and competing that I did not have the time or emotional inclination to question my beliefs. Sport is simple, with simple goals and a simple lifestyle."
8. Comment #268116 by MedMonkey on October 21, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I don't feel that my life has a big, gaping hole in it. In some ways I feel more human than I ever have. There is more reality in my existence than when I was full-on as a believer.
9. Comment #268126 by Stafford Gordon on October 21, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I found this so heartening when I first heard about it last year; and I find it no less so now.10. Comment #268137 by Freethinker15 on October 21, 2008 at 12:52 pm
11. Comment #268184 by 4horsefins on October 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm
12. Comment #268191 by GregPhillips on October 21, 2008 at 1:54 pm
13. Comment #268199 by D'Arcy on October 21, 2008 at 2:00 pm
14. Comment #268205 by Vaal on October 21, 2008 at 2:12 pm
15. Comment #268220 by Szymanowski on October 21, 2008 at 2:35 pm
If there is no God, does that mean that life has no purpose? Does it mean that personal existence ends at death?Those two conclusions are correct (though the questions are non-sequiturs). Somebody get this man a copy of TGD!
16. Comment #268241 by mmurray on October 21, 2008 at 3:16 pm
17. Comment #268260 by gazzaofbath on October 21, 2008 at 3:42 pm
18. Comment #268295 by amalthea on October 21, 2008 at 4:34 pm
19. Comment #268378 by beanson on October 21, 2008 at 6:59 pm
20. Comment #268422 by njwong on October 21, 2008 at 8:04 pm
16. Comment #268241 by mmurray on October 21, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Great article but it has been posted here before
http://richarddawkins.net/article,1340,I-have-never-been-happier-says-the-man-who-won-gold-but-lost-God,Matthew-Syed-The-Times-Online
in June 2007. If the most recent convert to atheism we can find is over a year old we look a bit desperate....
21. Comment #268472 by Alternative Carpark on October 21, 2008 at 8:52 pm
22. Comment #268512 by aprilmb on October 21, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Maybe there is hope that more will follow the same logic. I shudder when I hear politicians who aspire to world leadership invoke some deity or another, as was the case in Canada after our recent election, and as is happening elsewhere. Which brings me to another point - the headline - "...won gold but lost God." You can't lose something that doesn't exist.23. Comment #268517 by Roy_H on October 21, 2008 at 10:55 pm
24. Comment #268518 by Disbelief on October 21, 2008 at 10:55 pm
"Looking back now, I can see that my faith was not only pivotal to my decision to take up sport but also my success," he says. "I was always dismissive of sports psychology when I was competing, but I now realise that my belief in God was sports psychology in all but name."
25. Comment #268519 by mordacious1 on October 21, 2008 at 11:00 pm
26. Comment #268556 by AForce1 on October 22, 2008 at 1:27 am
Whenever one sees successful athletes from Catholic countries like Spain or Poland, they offer some kind of thank you to the sky as if to say "thank you god". Spanish footballers are very fond of kissing 2 fingers and offering them to the sky. Why don't they offer 2 fingers to the sky when they miss an open goal? If god helps them score he must surely mean them to miss. Or am I being too atheist?27. Comment #268572 by Disbelief on October 22, 2008 at 1:57 am
Specifically it is hard/impossible to be delusion free and simultaneously believe that there is a force greater than yourself backing you in your lofty ambitions, or that achieving your lofty ambitions are your divine purpose in life. As a rationalist, atheist you realize that the universe is pitifully indifferent to humans and their ambitions and that there is no higher power that wants you to succeed in your goal.
28. Comment #268578 by Mrs Gregory on October 22, 2008 at 2:09 am
29. Comment #268612 by Chris Davis on October 22, 2008 at 3:26 am
Ha! Proof that all that exercise is bad for your brain: 30. Comment #268614 by V'Ger on October 22, 2008 at 3:28 am
31. Comment #268628 by AdrianB on October 22, 2008 at 4:02 am
I just read this article about Jonathan Edwards loss of faith. It is really sad to see a man whose faith in God has collapsed along with his marriage.
One comment in the article was the most telling for me.
"I don't claim to fully understand what I am feeling other than to acknowledge that something I never doubted - God - I have huge doubts about now."
He states that he never doubted God and this to me appears to be the beginnings of the problem. Now I have been a Christian for about 2 years and ever since I first noticed God working in me and others I have had doubts about his existance. I have seen God do some amazing things in people and in myself yet occasionally I still have doubts. The bible is full of people who doubt God, Thomas, Abraham (God will give him a child), Moses (God will use him to lead his people out of Egypt) ect. Lots and lots of doubters.
Now, because I experience doubts often, they aren't as crippling. I read my bible, do some research, think over all of the things I think I have seen God do. I look at the world and see how God fits into what I see in my friends and family. I read books, watch films (nearly every book or film a story of good vs evil or redemption), listen to music, most of which if Christian are praising God, or if secular, searching for him. I see the mistakes people make in trying to fill their lifes with someone or something other than God. I see the beauty of creation and the joy it gives to everyone. I see the effect of art, a God given impulse, on people that don't know him and on myself.
It is not a matter of closing my mind to opposing (non-Christian) viewpoints. It may be scary to deal with them at first, but as you get deeper you realise their flaws and assumptions. To be more secure in your faith you need to have knowledge about other views. If you don't deal with them throughout your journey, one may come and cripple you later on. That is why alpha has been such a blessing to me as it has forced me (often uncomfortably) to deal with opposing viewpoint or evidence.
I suggest we pray for Jonathan Edwards that he will come back to God and that his blind-faith with return with opened eyes. We should never fear doubting because we can trust that God will show us the evidence. The very act of doubting and reaffirming our faith brings us closer to Him.
32. Comment #268636 by Pertwee's Bouffant on October 22, 2008 at 4:31 am
33. Comment #268641 by mixmastergaz on October 22, 2008 at 4:38 am
34. Comment #268664 by Shane McKee on October 22, 2008 at 5:38 am
35. Comment #268673 by Vaal on October 22, 2008 at 6:01 am
36. Comment #268677 by Laurie Fraser on October 22, 2008 at 6:11 am
37. Comment #268698 by Vaal on October 22, 2008 at 6:34 am
38. Comment #268701 by Laurie Fraser on October 22, 2008 at 6:38 am
39. Comment #268702 by Lemniscate on October 22, 2008 at 6:41 am
40. Comment #268718 by rod-the-farmer on October 22, 2008 at 7:24 am
41. Comment #268938 by posiedon on October 22, 2008 at 12:47 pm
42. Comment #269252 by Dispiracist on October 22, 2008 at 7:12 pm
19. Comment #268375 by vijaykrishnan on October 21, 2008 at 6:54 pm
a disproportionate amount of wealth, jobs etc. are created by overconfident entrepreneurs who in their minds downplay the possibility of failure, rather than by folks who accurately evaluate risks and decide that they want to startup despite a 90% chance of failure.
43. Comment #270281 by Vaal on October 24, 2008 at 1:39 am
At a very high level the difference between these athletes basically comes down to luck.
44. Comment #270363 by irate_atheist on October 24, 2008 at 5:09 am
Usain Bolt?Lucky bastard.
45. Comment #270907 by MRA on October 24, 2008 at 11:09 pm
46. Comment #271496 by jabber on October 25, 2008 at 6:33 pm
47. Comment #271550 by MRA on October 26, 2008 at 12:03 am
48. Comment #272286 by jabber on October 27, 2008 at 7:32 am
49. Comment #277478 by markrdlong on November 3, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Any faith built on literalism will eventually crumble. The problem with so much evengelical and pentecostal forms of Christianity is that they rely on Scripture to be infallible, when actually it records myth (stories that reveal truth, rather than are "true" themselves). Edwards fall from faith is to be expected - he built his faith on sand.This article is reposted from a website that accepts comments.
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