Clifford Longley 'silly', says friend2. Comment #319261 by splink on January 14, 2009 at 11:02 am
"{The} existence of an unsolved problem in physics is not evidence for a supernatural explanation any more then the existence of an unsolved crime is evidence that a ghost committed it."3. Comment #319271 by Richard Dawkins on January 14, 2009 at 11:13 am
4. Comment #319275 by JAMCAM87 on January 14, 2009 at 11:19 am
5. Comment #319282 by zeroangel on January 14, 2009 at 11:23 am
6. Comment #319290 by Edouard Pernod on January 14, 2009 at 11:29 am
7. Comment #319295 by JAMCAM87 on January 14, 2009 at 11:35 am
8. Comment #319304 by JAMCAM87 on January 14, 2009 at 11:40 am
9. Comment #319310 by Lucas on January 14, 2009 at 11:48 am
On the other hand, he does take seriously the anthropic principle and he believes that his own beliefs about God are probable in the light of the scientific evidence, although that is not what led him to them.
10. Comment #319346 by quisquose on January 14, 2009 at 12:13 pm
11. Comment #319359 by Dark Matter on January 14, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I often listen to the Moral Maze and you can always depend on Clifford Longley or Melanie Phillips to say something utterly cretinous or completely unsourced or unchecked.12. Comment #319361 by chaos^fr on January 14, 2009 at 12:34 pm
i have been asked many times, how is the extremist atheist different from the extremist religious?13. Comment #319362 by epeeist on January 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I am, therefore, not exactly surprised that he has made a lazy, misplaced and misleading complaint to the ASA. As for completely misunderstanding the anthropic principle and to openingly state the direct opposite of what it actually means - what a complete moron.It is even more moronic than you think. Longley's complaint is an exact cut and paste from http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/creatorfacts.htm down to the misspelling of Dennis Sciama's name.
14. Comment #319367 by the great teapot on January 14, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Jamcam87,15. Comment #319379 by Frankus1122 on January 14, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Jamcam87,
"Without god life is everything" definitely my favourite so far and I have read all the threads.
I second your motion.
16. Comment #319385 by the great teapot on January 14, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Could be read the other way ofcourse, but that to me is a plus point as well. (Is ofcourse one word or two?)17. Comment #319389 by God fearing Atheist on January 14, 2009 at 1:05 pm
18. Comment #319395 by JAMCAM87 on January 14, 2009 at 1:10 pm
19. Comment #319398 by JAMCAM87 on January 14, 2009 at 1:13 pm
20. Comment #319403 by the great teapot on January 14, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Jamcam8721. Comment #319405 by Apeseed on January 14, 2009 at 1:22 pm
22. Comment #319408 by Dark Matter on January 14, 2009 at 1:24 pm
"It is even more moronic than you think. Longley's complaint is an exact cut and paste from http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/creatorfacts.htm down to the misspelling of Dennis Sciama's name.23. Comment #319418 by epeeist on January 14, 2009 at 1:35 pm
BTW, I have read and enjoyed many of your comments on the Guardian CIF (I am assuming that you are the same Epeeist who writes there). I used to write there under the moniker of "theophobic" until they banned me for being mean to Madeleine Bunting - such thin skins.That is me. But wow, getting banned for being mean to Mad Bunting, several million points for style.
24. Comment #319419 by God fearing Atheist on January 14, 2009 at 1:38 pm
#319295 by JAMCAM87
25. Comment #319420 by black wolf on January 14, 2009 at 1:40 pm
26. Comment #319425 by Corylus on January 14, 2009 at 1:50 pm
All I can do is advise believers to take note of quotes and check them. Check the phrases your favorite priest or apologist uses. Ask them for sources whenever they cite statistics, or quote any person you wouldn't normally expect to make statements of faith.Well said.
27. Comment #319483 by Heresycorner on January 14, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Most gratifying: I haven't had this many referrals since my revelations about Georgina Baillie were featured in The Register. Which must say something.28. Comment #319492 by quisquose on January 14, 2009 at 2:30 pm
29. Comment #319522 by MakingBelieve on January 14, 2009 at 2:49 pm
30. Comment #319596 by Sean on January 14, 2009 at 3:41 pm
It's amusing that George Pitcher, the Religion editor of the Telegraph, has been singing the praises of Longley's complaint on his blog:31. Comment #319780 by BrandySpears on January 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm
32. Comment #319818 by gdhnz on January 14, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I love one of the quotes in the comments on the articleAs soon as wishful thinking is involved, critical thinking flies out of the window.
33. Comment #320169 by jo5ef on January 14, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Living here in Australia I have not seen one of these buses close up, as so far the campaign is yet to find a bus that will advertise its slogans, do the adverts give a URL? I certainly hope so, as it seems to me we are witnessing the birth of a new movement here - a rational alternative to the religions that may yet eclipse them. We are after all constantly accused of being just the same as religious ideologues, perhaps we should embrace that identity. It almost seems that, once everyone realizes that most of us (i'm taking to you too, churchgoing folk) don't really buy into this god stuff, it could all start to dissipate like a bad dream. And all thanks to the internet, this extraordinary cyberspace where we find out what people REALLY think.34. Comment #320173 by epeeist on January 15, 2009 at 12:09 am
I always liked:Corylus has the best one:
"Atheism is a religion like bald is a hairstyle."
Atheism is a religion like going commando is a form of underwear
35. Comment #320175 by nalfeshnee on January 15, 2009 at 12:11 am
36. Comment #320272 by Steve Zara on January 15, 2009 at 1:49 am
Fine tuning again....37. Comment #320281 by Quetzalcoatl on January 15, 2009 at 1:55 am
38. Comment #320513 by Galactor on January 15, 2009 at 5:15 am
39. Comment #320917 by splink on January 15, 2009 at 9:25 am
Ok, I guess I should point out I was kidding and I am not going to actually plagiarize the line. I can't, I have just graduated from college and may never do anything productive again.40. Comment #321013 by stevencarrwork on January 15, 2009 at 10:47 am
There probably is no Dennis Scania, which does not stop Mr.Longley telling us what he says.41. Comment #321039 by robotaholic on January 15, 2009 at 11:24 am
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1. Comment #319257 by kaiser on January 14, 2009 at 10:56 am
Great quote, especially the last part.
Have to remember that, when "the god of the gap" argument turns up.
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