America is not a Christian nation
April 14, 2009 | Is America a Christian nation, as many conservatives claim it is? One American doesn't think so. In his press conference on April 6 in Turkey, President Obama explained: "One of the great strengths of the United States is … we have a very large Christian population -- we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."
2. Comment #364181 by toomanytribbles on April 14, 2009 at 10:30 am
3. Comment #364218 by Lucas on April 14, 2009 at 11:16 am
Do we need to learn this lesson again?
4. Comment #364219 by zeroangel on April 14, 2009 at 11:17 am
5. Comment #364221 by Rowdy1 on April 14, 2009 at 11:23 am
6. Comment #364224 by zeroangel on April 14, 2009 at 11:25 am
7. Comment #364226 by sundiver on April 14, 2009 at 11:27 am
8. Comment #364233 by Mr DArcy on April 14, 2009 at 11:39 am
9. Comment #364236 by Needscowbell on April 14, 2009 at 11:44 am
10. Comment #364242 by gr8hands on April 14, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Fact check: The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified by a unanimous vote of the Senate. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field(DOCID @lit(ej001383)):11. Comment #364252 by RationalFreeThinker on April 14, 2009 at 12:50 pm
12. Comment #364261 by Squigit on April 14, 2009 at 12:57 pm
YAY for Obama! This is the second time he has acknowledged the fact that we are not a Christian nation (the first was in his inaug. speech where he not only acknowledged observers of other religions, but "non-believers" also)! :D13. Comment #364263 by Stafford Gordon on April 14, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Article 6 of The American Contitution reads as follows: "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."14. Comment #364268 by Stafford Gordon on April 14, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Sorry everyone: I have to admit that I didn't read the article fully before posting my comment!15. Comment #364285 by foxfire on April 14, 2009 at 1:24 pm
16. Comment #364288 by dfnewburry on April 14, 2009 at 1:28 pm
17. Comment #364294 by LeeLeeOne on April 14, 2009 at 1:43 pm
18. Comment #364307 by shaunfletcher on April 14, 2009 at 1:59 pm
19. Comment #364312 by JonLynnHarvey on April 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm
The Declaration of Independence simply refers to human rights as "the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them", an obviously deistic point of view. Thinking on human rights is developed in a systematic way in ancient Greek and Roman thought, and in a relatively sporadic and scattershot way in the Bible.20. Comment #364332 by Lord Osis on April 14, 2009 at 3:10 pm
21. Comment #364353 by rod-the-farmer on April 14, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Results: President Obama said, ‘We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation, or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of a values. How do you feel about those comments ?
Poll Results:
Offended – America is still a Christian nation - 11.2%
Agree – No one religion is more important - 5.3%
Agree – Our country is not based on religious beliefs - 82.9%
Don’t care - 0.7%
Total Responses - 6450
22. Comment #364370 by HappyPrimate on April 14, 2009 at 5:39 pm
23. Comment #364386 by Umair Rahat on April 14, 2009 at 6:08 pm
@rod-the-farmer:24. Comment #364420 by robotaholic on April 14, 2009 at 8:04 pm
25. Comment #364425 by j.mills on April 14, 2009 at 8:27 pm
26. Comment #364432 by pkruger on April 14, 2009 at 9:46 pm
How tragic so many Americans don't even know what country it is they live in.27. Comment #364434 by zengardener on April 14, 2009 at 9:55 pm
28. Comment #364439 by Big T on April 14, 2009 at 10:11 pm
"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof" - sounds pretty simple to me. How can any intelligent, halfway educated person read those words and conclude that America is a nation founded on "Judaeo-Christian values"? Both Judaism and Christianity persecuted atheists, agnostics, apostates, etc. for centuries. I consider America to be a nation founded on the values of The Enlightenment. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the freedom to have no religion or the religion of one's (free) choice. In the Old Testament we are told that if your child chooses another religion, you should kill her. In the Muslim tradition (the Hadith, I think, rather than the Qur'an) it says "Whoever changes his religion (away from Islam, that is) kill him." In the Qur'an itself, atheists and other non-Muslims are threatened with hellfire. Now, which tradition is closer to the values of the "Founding Fathers"? Enlightenment values of free thought, or the Monotheistic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam? Isn't the answer obvious to any intelligent, educated person with intellectual integrity?29. Comment #364442 by Rowdy1 on April 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm
30. Comment #364455 by dfnewburry on April 14, 2009 at 11:42 pm
31. Comment #364465 by happyfinesad on April 15, 2009 at 12:34 am
32. Comment #364473 by keddaw on April 15, 2009 at 1:23 am
33. Comment #364477 by SnowyDoc on April 15, 2009 at 1:48 am
34. Comment #364502 by ukvillafan on April 15, 2009 at 5:11 am
35. Comment #364524 by cerad on April 15, 2009 at 6:28 am
Why on EARTH is that marvellous washington quote not used more often??
"Religion is as necessary to reason, as reason to religion. The one cannot exist without the other. A reasoning being would lose his reason, in attempting to account for the great phenomena of nature, had he not a Supreme Being to refer to; and well it has been said, that if there had been no God, mankind would have been obliged to imagine one."
36. Comment #364558 by AfraidToDie on April 15, 2009 at 7:37 am
19. Comment #364288 by dfnewburry: Personally I find the so called Supreme Court as oppresive as any religion.
37. Comment #364570 by palanski on April 15, 2009 at 8:04 am
Thought I'd share this, found it while browsing around YouTube. Thanks, Konstantine.38. Comment #364573 by jhm on April 15, 2009 at 8:11 am
39. Comment #365021 by dfnewburry on April 15, 2009 at 11:04 pm
40. Comment #365062 by WilliamP on April 16, 2009 at 2:38 am
When I heard John McCain say that the USA is a Christian nation based on its constitution, I thought that was the stupidest thing I had ever heard and that he was the dumbest politician alive. Of course that was before he had selected his running mate.41. Comment #365075 by Manson on April 16, 2009 at 4:06 am
Can someone please point me to a single moral, ethic, or value set forth in America's founding documents that is uniquely Judeo Christian?42. Comment #365467 by quantum_flux on April 16, 2009 at 5:19 pm
43. Comment #366823 by steveroot on April 20, 2009 at 4:16 am
1. Comment #364178 by DiveMedic on April 14, 2009 at 10:27 am
I always love any mention in the media of "under god" being inserted into the pledge in '54. This is something that seems to be largely unknown to most people who have spoken to me about my views on the removal of that garbage.Other Comments by DiveMedic