1. Comment #403637 by SamKiddoGordon on August 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm

The STUPID, it burns!

facepalm,

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2. Comment #403641 by i k e on August 8, 2009 at 3:19 pm

27 million dollars burned. Couldn't these good christian souls help a lot of poor people with that money?

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3. Comment #403648 by NewEnglandBob on August 8, 2009 at 3:26 pm

A poorly written article from ABC news.

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4. Comment #403659 by Mr. Forrest on August 8, 2009 at 3:40 pm

"In the singular moment of noticeable conflict, Derek Rogers, a computer science major at Dalhouise University in Nova Scotia, Canada, was detained by guards for wearing a shirt with a slogan recently plastered on buses by activist groups that read "there's probably no God, so get over it." He was escorted to the bathroom and ordered to flip the shirt inside-out.

"One family of religious people told me that I had ruined their trip, and they drove all the way from Virginia," said Rogers."

HOW FUCKING PATHETIC ARE YOU IF A T-SHIRT CAN RUIN YOU ENTIRE TRIP?!?!

And BTW aint it lovely how the museum supports this sort of nascent fascism by "shutting up" the t-shirt?

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5. Comment #403666 by Border Collie on August 8, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Absurd and surreal.
Watch the Francis Collins video also. Scary.

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6. Comment #403674 by foolfodder on August 8, 2009 at 4:19 pm

They got the text of the t-shirt wrong.

The article is very similar to the one here: http://www.aip.org/isns/reports/2009/090807_museum.html which also has the same mistake.

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7. Comment #403678 by Lucas on August 8, 2009 at 4:29 pm

In the singular moment of noticeable conflict, Derek Rogers, a computer science major at Dalhouise University in Nova Scotia, Canada, was detained by guards for wearing a shirt with a slogan recently plastered on buses by activist groups that read "there's probably no God, so get over it."

Actually, I'm betting his shirt said, "there's probably no God, so stop worrying and enjoy life," because nothing like what they quoted was ever on a bus. Way to distort reality so that Derek seems like an asshole, and by association, so do we all. Thanks ABC. Dicks.

He was escorted to the bathroom and ordered to flip the shirt inside-out.

Excuse me? How did that work out exactly? Was there a sign posted at the entrance saying that freedom of speech was left at the door? Or saying that certain kinds of speech would be cause for removal? ACLU? Anybody? Cause I'm pretty sure that's not legal. Fuck it, I'm buying that Early Man shirt (http://www.earlymanarmy.com/merch.html - the one at the bottom) and going down to Kentucky.

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8. Comment #403685 by decius on August 8, 2009 at 4:53 pm

Comment #403659 by Mr. Forrest

HOW FUCKING PATHETIC ARE YOU IF A T-SHIRT CAN RUIN YOU ENTIRE TRIP?!?!

And BTW aint it lovely how the museum supports this sort of nascent fascism by "shutting up" the t-shirt?

Indeed a pathetic suggestion and a tyrannical attitude in dealing with the mildest form of dissent.

Somewhere, inside the thick skull of the true believers, occasionally, a coalition of rogue neurons conjurs to flash a mental neon sign that reads "BULLSHIT". No one, no matter how stupid, could possibly miss the falsehoods and self-refuting inconsistencies that weave the narrative of christian mythology - it takes great personal commitment to maintain voluntary blindness and deafness to reason indefinitely.

In order to be preserved, preposterous belief-systems need constant, loud and costly reinforcement; be it a pilgrimage on one's knees where a miracle is fabled to have occurred (simply walking would be too mundane a system of locomotion) or a lengthy (the longer the better) drive from Virginia to the Flintstones museum, where crowds gather in fervent expectation of being shamelessly lied at. The bigger the lie, the stronger the reinforcement.
Please note how, in their complaint, the fact that they drove from Virginia is treated as an aggravating circumstance to be laid on the 'culprit's' doorstep.

I have no difficulty in believing that the Virginian family truly had their experience completely spoiled. That impudent t-shirt caused their rogue neural networks to light up and fire, and it was as disruptive and unwelcome a trauma, as any loud bang interrupting a deep, deep sleep.

Edited-clarity

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9. Comment #403686 by BlueCollar8theist on August 8, 2009 at 5:01 pm

There is no stupidity that enrages me more than deliberate stupidity. This 'museum' is a classic example of the latter. *sigh* buy 'em books, send 'em to school and they emerge thinking humans and dinosaurs existed together. Only in America...

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10. Comment #403687 by HenryFord on August 8, 2009 at 5:03 pm

"Was there a sign posted at the entrance saying that freedom of speech was left at the door? Or saying that certain kinds of speech would be cause for removal? ACLU? Anybody? Cause I'm pretty sure that's not legal."

As pathetic as this incident is, my understanding of America's freedom of speech meant that you were free to bar people from your property if they didn't follow your rules. It is only in public arenas that there is total freedom of speech. But I'd appreciate some profesional knowledge on this.

At the moment the "freedom of speech" argument bugs me as I don't think it is valid.

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11. Comment #403692 by liberalartist on August 8, 2009 at 5:14 pm

I just cringe at the thought of so many children being dumbed-down by this crazy place. That is real harm, and it doesn't bode well for the future of this country either, if you consider there have probably been hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of visitors.

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12. Comment #403695 by Driver on August 8, 2009 at 5:24 pm

and mankind spread from continent to continent by walking across the floating trunks of trees knocked down during the Biblical Flood.

Of course this must mean that some of these people gave marsupials piggy-back rides to Australia.

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13. Comment #403700 by Sci_Guy_Bri on August 8, 2009 at 5:36 pm

"...the Creation Museum sent a letter to Myers warning that "loud, disrespectful, destructive, obscene, or abusive behavior will not be tolerated, and may result in your removal from the premises."

Unless it's pro-Christian. In which case we understand you're just feeling God's spirit... or some other such nonsense.

"...said a statement released by Mark Looy, co-founder and chief communications officer for the museum. "[W]e trust that such skeptics will open to reassessing their dogmatically held view as they tour the Creation Museum."

He uses the word "dogmatically" in a negative, condescending way... Doesn't he realize he subscribes to one£ Oh, but it's not his, and therefore to be spit upon.

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14. Comment #403703 by Peacebeuponme on August 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm

And BTW aint it lovely how the museum supports this sort of nascent fascism by "shutting up" the t-shirt?

You can imagine the christian outcry had a god-botherer been told to change a jesus shirt in a real museum.

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15. Comment #403714 by PrimeNumbers on August 8, 2009 at 6:08 pm

A couple of weekends back I was at a science museum in California. There were a number of kids walking around with religious t-shirts with biblical quotes on them. None were ordered to turn their t-shirts inside out or not wear them in the science museum. No complaints what-so-ever.

And that is why the creation "museum" is wrong. Hypocrites.

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16. Comment #403717 by PERSON on August 8, 2009 at 6:16 pm

ABC seems to be making stuff up. If you search for the exact phrase "there's probably no God, so get over it" on Google the only references you get are this article, blog posts about it and a post on a body-building forum from 2006.

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17. Comment #403727 by Jos Gibbons on August 8, 2009 at 7:13 pm

Comment #403666 by Border Collie

I just saw it. OUCH.

"They're compatible because I've used the word "book" to describe them both." No Dr Collins, their compatibility or lack thereof depends on WHAT THEY SAY.
"God didn't tell us how it happened in Genesis because we weren't ready for scientific explanations." Why did he lie then? He could have said "I just did it, end of" rather than giving a long list of ages of fathers, a sequence of creation events, two conflicting accounts in Genesis 1/2 etc.
"A scientist can believe in laws of nature being violated by believing they were created by a guy who flipped their off switch." So, make something that makes no sense make sense by assuming something else unnecessarily that makes even less sense. Besides, turning laws on/off isn't that simple. I notice this line of argument is never used by those who know of Noether's theorem.
Oh, but wait, I've not undermined religion by tearing his logic to shreds because I have to deal with "sophisticated" believers. Judging by the quality of the arguments used by examples I've been given of these, the only definition of sophisticated I can imagine is "you've not refuted him yet". I haven't got the time to refute every theist on Earth! The important thing is that FC is regularly cited as the best they have, so if he's no good none of them will be.

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18. Comment #403728 by Steve Zara on August 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm

Judging by the quality of the arguments used by examples I've been given of these, the only definition of sophisticated I can imagine is "you've not refuted him yet".

Applause.

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19. Comment #403731 by DalaiDrivel on August 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm

Adam and Eve share the Garden of Eden with dinosaurs; the beaks of Darwin's finches are explained by God's will, not evolution; and mankind spread from continent to continent by walking across the floating trunks of trees knocked down during the Biblical Flood.

My question is, what rules are there governing what cannot be explained by "God"?

Indeed all that is in the quote is possible with the right kind of God- or perhaps there is a philosophical argument or contradiction I should be made aware of. Of course, we understand that such a God has only been defined and not been proved to exist beyond reasonable doubt.

In a petty way, God becomes more remarkable with every wonder that is ascribed to him- and all the more horrific as a proposition to prove. I wish this could be impressed on more believers, creationists or not- creationists more so, however.

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20. Comment #403733 by Peacebeuponme on August 8, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Watch the Francis Collins video also. Scary.

I don't see where this is, anyone have a link?

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21. Comment #403735 by DalaiDrivel on August 8, 2009 at 7:35 pm

Prime Numbers,

A couple of weekends back I was at a science museum in California. There were a number of kids walking around with religious t-shirts with biblical quotes on them. None were ordered to turn their t-shirts inside out or not wear them in the science museum. No complaints what-so-ever.

And that is why the creation "museum" is wrong. Hypocrites.

This makes complete sense to me. You can undermine the entire scam of religion with a single T-Shirt, so obvious is its deceit.

To attempt to undermine science in the same way is rightly viewed as laughable, transparent and open as science's process is, and cumulative over the centuries in the evidence that it works. Science can afford to allow its naysayers to make fools of themselves.

When naysayers are clothed in suits with briefcases, arguing to change laws- that is an undermining that should be taken a good deal more seriously.

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22. Comment #403739 by Jos Gibbons on August 8, 2009 at 7:43 pm

Comment #403733 by Peacebeuponme

The 2-page linked article on whom this thread comments features the video on page 1, with a play button you have to press for it to be anything more than an image clumsily pushing text out of the way.

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23. Comment #403740 by Peacebeuponme on August 8, 2009 at 7:46 pm

Right in front of my eyes then!

Thanks, Jos.

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24. Comment #403745 by phil rimmer on August 8, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Comment #403731 by DalaiDrivel

The thing is every creotard knows every Godly Fiat that has to be invoked is another failure for them. Though God the Builder can build his world any way he chooses, Fiats don't have a good re-tale value and need to be replaced with something mechanically more reliable whenever possible.

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25. Comment #403756 by Lucas on August 8, 2009 at 8:47 pm

HenryFord said:

As pathetic as this incident is, my understanding of America's freedom of speech meant that you were free to bar people from your property if they didn't follow your rules. It is only in public arenas that there is total freedom of speech.

That is correct, as far as I know. My question, however, was whether or not there was a sign or list of rules or anything whatsoever upon entering the museum that barred certain kinds of t-shirts. If there was, and then he broke the rule, then their action was fine. If there was not, then they can't just make up new rules once you've paid the fee and gone inside.

It's just like at many music venues, if they have a sign out front that says "No Moshing", and then you mosh, they are justified in kicking you out without a refund. If there is no such sign, and THEN you get kicked out for moshing, they owe you the price of the ticket. You could take them to court for kicking you out for breaking a rule that was not posted.

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26. Comment #403764 by DalaiDrivel on August 8, 2009 at 9:24 pm

phil rimmer,

So every exhibit in the Creation Museum has an implied disclaimer attached: "Subject to impending better explanation"?

There's hope.

Yet, clearly, to believe that God coordinated thousands (millions?) of tree trunks to span oceans so that bipeds could cross them is a fabulously unbelievable claim. I can't help but feel that if a believer is content to believe a story like that at any point in time, they are either stupid, or simple brainwashed with their desire for a better explanation in the future negligible.

And I think that, even if every Godly Fiat is a closed door and failure of explanation (which it is), it is surely an open window for a triumph of faith!

Grrr.

The bottom line- every sensible person, and every believer with an iota of sense, defers to science. The difference between us and believers of all stripes, is that we, as non-believers, do not allow God to occupy gaps in science, or override science, as a temporary explanation.

To a believer, God is responsible for everything. I suppose that to debate how God did something in the absence of a scientific explanation implies that he may not have done anything at all, and everything transpired according to physical laws, which a scientific explanation if found, would require. And if he did not do anything at all, it is possible that he does not exist, and is a superfluous assumption.

Which we, as non-believers, think he is.

In this line of reasoning, isn't certainty of how God did things in the absence of a scientific explanation necessary to assure certainty of God's existence?

But there is no such thing as a temporary scientific explanation, is there? We don't "know" something for a while and then "know" something different? We can admit we don't know something, but have ideas. Strictly speaking, scientists never "know" anything, I suppose, and ideas are only ever disproved.

This leads me to think that it is impossible to be a believer and think scientifically. I think it also shows how science and religion are fundamentally incompatible.

I think, for faith's part in all this, that it is a vow of certainty. Faith is not built upon evidence, as Francis Collins would say. It is a direct substitute for evidence, and goes far beyond what evidence could do (evidence does not provide certainty). Faith is absolutely useless for scientific purposes, and in fact, by avowing certainty in an a priori proposition, would negate the need to verify that proposition in the first place. Science can never support certainty.

When the believer is presented with a proper scientific explanation, they must transfer their faith and certainty to the new explanation, and allow their faith to run amok in any new gaps.

The believer must think, quite bogglingly along these lines:

"Today, I know that it all happened this way. I have faith in this. Tomorrow it may be another way. I will have faith in that too."

It reminds me of an Oceania (of 1984) citizen's response to war.

"If Oceania changes its enemy tomorrow, say to Eastasia, it will always have have been at war with Eastasia."

Just thinking aloud... I've been re-reading and editing this post for too long. I'll just put it out there now!

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27. Comment #403767 by RightWingAtheist on August 8, 2009 at 9:43 pm

Comment #403641 by i k e on August 8, 2009 at 3:19 pm
27 million dollars burned. Couldn't these good christian souls help a lot of poor people with that money?

The money was not burned, it was paid to people who construct buildings, models, robots, etc.

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28. Comment #403772 by Stewart Cowan on August 8, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Do you mind if we walk down Real Street for a moment? Now, I've no idea what Ken Ham's museum is teaching, but...

300 people descended on this private museum, by the looks of it, nearly all wearing T-shirts whose slogans were meant to provoke or upset the staff and other visitors there.

I don't know why the young man was really asked to leave, but I imagine these people made the place seem unpleasant and intimidating.

Well, how would you like to work in a museum and have 300 people roaming around joking and sniggering?

I notice that PZ Myers treated his disciples like disruptive schoolchildren by warning them to behave themselves like civilised human beings.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/07/the_creation_museum_has_given.php


EDIT:

Actually, the group was asked not to wear: "T-shirts or other clothing with images or wording that would be considered offensive to our staff and others at the museum. Such conduct will not be tolerated."

Funny how those who shout loudest about wanting 'respect' are those least likely to give it.

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29. Comment #403773 by manicstreetpreacher on August 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm

Eye-witness account of a lecture given by the head of Answers In Genesis, Ken Ham, at Liverpool University in 2008:

http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=399

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30. Comment #403776 by WilliamP on August 8, 2009 at 10:26 pm

I was in Cincinatti a couple weeks ago, just a short trip away from the Creation Museum. I thought about going, but the admission fee is $20. I could not justify giving them $20 to put toward their silly cause, even if I would get a good laugh out of it.

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31. Comment #403779 by Baron Scarpia on August 8, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Dear Mr Cowen,

considering that nearly 300 people turned up, and the only thing the creationists could find objectionable was that one (1) of the attendees was wearing a t-shirt with a slogan, then I would say that, yes, the atheists did respect the wishes of the creationists.

Note also that Mr Rogers complied with the request to turn over his shirt as asked.

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32. Comment #403796 by Aidan on August 9, 2009 at 12:04 am

That's really quite unfair to Derek, his T-shirt did NOT say get over it. Complete lie to make atheists look bad. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/aidan86/Derek.jpg

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33. Comment #403798 by Stewart Cowan on August 9, 2009 at 12:20 am

31. Comment #403779 by Baron Scarpia

Sorry, but the video on Myers' blog shows people wearing various atheist T-shirts.

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34. Comment #403799 by Steve Zara on August 9, 2009 at 12:34 am

Comment #403772 by Stewart Cowan

Funny how those who shout loudest about wanting 'respect' are those least likely to give it.

Who is shouting about wanting respect? I wanna ride the Triceratops!

I imagine these people made the place seem unpleasant and intimidating.

Good. If people politely walking around using just non-obscene words on a T-shirt can be termed unpleasant and intimidating, then good for them I say! Well done PZ!

It must be very, very unpleasant for people with brains so tiny that they believe T Rex was vegetarian to have to deal with the concept that 'There probably is no God'. Just too many syllables, I guess.

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35. Comment #403811 by megacephalanthropus on August 9, 2009 at 1:56 am

"A group of scientists, students and secularists -- 304 in all"

Well done, you outnumbered the Spartan army that fought the Persians by 4!

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36. Comment #403833 by alovrin on August 9, 2009 at 5:17 am

Comment #403772 by Stewart Cowan

Do you mind if we walk down Real Street for a moment?

What"s with the "we" white man. You believe in a sky fairy I dont think you're been close to reality for a while.

I notice that PZ Myers treated his disciples like disruptive schoolchildren

They are students(not disciples), probably young and Prof Myers is probably responsible for them in some respect.
Your point?

Funny how those who shout loudest about wanting 'respect' are those least likely to give it.

You really need a reality check fella.

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37. Comment #403861 by Ole on August 9, 2009 at 8:45 am

It is embarrassing to listen to Collins (the video clip).

Wallace "collided" with Darwin around 1869, when he (Wallace) started talking about spirits (see his Quarterly Review article from April 1869).

A newspaper commented on Wallace article: "Mr. Wallace's reference .. to a Creator's will undermine Mr. Darwins whole hyphotesis."

140 years later Francis Collins is doing the same!

Ole

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38. Comment #403868 by Baron Scarpia on August 9, 2009 at 9:48 am

Sorry, but the video on Myers' blog shows people wearing various atheist T-shirts.

But for some reason, only one (1) person was thrown out. I wonder what made his shirt more offensive than the others?

Hmm. I suppose you could put it down to the long-suffering tolerance and forgiveness of the creationists - but they're not generally known for it, are they?

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39. Comment #403899 by Philster61 on August 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm

Its only about money. Nothing else. Truth is of absolutely no consequence when it comes down to making money.

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40. Comment #403907 by black wolf on August 9, 2009 at 1:26 pm

According to the guy's own account about the incident, he was not thrown out for the T-shirt. He complied with the demand to turn it inside out. It was only later that that Virginia family complaining to staff about conversations atheist visitors were having among themselves led to the T-shirt guy being picked out - as he was leaving anyway no less - and told to leave (he says he'd only stopped a moment to take another picture or similar).
They simply picked him out arbitrarily, according to him as he was passing by, as a scapegoat to appease a group of whiny customers.

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41. Comment #403931 by Colwyn Abernathy on August 9, 2009 at 4:18 pm

Creation Museum: Is This How World Began?

PPPFFFFFffffffffaaaahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahhaahha...

(inhale)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahahahahahano.

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42. Comment #403969 by Simon Wilson on August 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm

"and mankind spread from continent to continent by walking across the floating trunks of trees knocked down during the Biblical Flood."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! How ridiculous is this?? Even to a non-scientist like me, there are some serious questions.
Has anyone tried to cross from one continent to another in this way?? How would the tree trunks stay in line? How would people maintain their grip? How would you know what direction you were heading?
It really is too ridiculous and I would end up laughing my head off if I read it in a creation museum.
And as an extra question, if it isnt mentioned in the Bible, who does god tell, and why them??

Every year, in every way, as I hear and read more, my atheism becomes more vocal. If I am lucky, and manage to live to the average age (and hopefully a bit longer) before I die, then I would hope to see a lot less of religion in public life before I draw my last breath.

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43. Comment #403983 by Stewart Cowan on August 9, 2009 at 8:50 pm

38. Comment #403868 by Baron Scarpia

Hmm. I suppose you could put it down to the long-suffering tolerance and forgiveness of the creationists - but they're not generally known for it, are they?

I don't know about Ham's lot, but I think it's fair to say that your's truly has to fit that description to keep posting on this 'oasis'.

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44. Comment #403985 by Stewart Cowan on August 9, 2009 at 8:52 pm

39. Comment #403899 by Philster61

Its only about money. Nothing else. Truth is of absolutely no consequence when it comes down to making money.

Do you also feel that way about the books of a certain Professor?

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45. Comment #403992 by Stewart Cowan on August 9, 2009 at 9:51 pm

41. Comment #403931 by Colwyn Abernathy

Creation Museum: Is This How World Began?




PPPFFFFFffffffffaaaahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahhaahha...

(inhale)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahahahahahano.

Allegedly an awful lot of miracles happened.

1. A great big bang made a lot of noise (or did it; nobody was there to hear it) and an incredible amount of stuff went out further and further into space (don't know where that came from!). The most amazing thing is that all this matter came from nothing. Strange. That's what the Bible says, that the Almighty 'spoke' the universe into existence.

2. After the stars had formed into swirly things called galaxies, and cooled down, there was one planet which was in exactly the right position for life to exist. If the planet had been a bit larger or a bit smaller or a bit nearer the sun or a bit further from the sun it would have been a disaster. The earth's rotation and tilt are also just right as are many other aspects of the planet. You would think the Solar System had been designed just for us!

3. Eventually a string of all left-handed amino acids joined up in a warm pond somewhere to form a protein. RNA somehow developed too and this first living thing gave rise to all of the different animals and plants we see today. The process requires vast amounts of new genetic code to be written, but the amazing thing is that almost all the mutations we see in the world today result in a *loss* of genetic information.

It seems you need to believe in many miracles if you're going to be an evolutionist. Matter out of nothing. Life from non-life. Intelligence from a mindless universe of rocks and gases.

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46. Comment #403995 by Quetzalcoatl on August 9, 2009 at 9:56 pm

Lots of questions for you in another thread, Stewart.

Any thoughts re Mercury as yet?

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47. Comment #403997 by Peacebeuponme on August 9, 2009 at 10:01 pm

Stewart Cowan

You only have to belieive in your third point to be an "evolutionist" as you call them. The other two have nothing to do with evolution.

I'd just add that, of the 100 billion billion or so planets, one at least happens to have the right conditions for life, on part of its surface. What are the chances, eh?

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48. Comment #403998 by Steve Zara on August 9, 2009 at 10:02 pm

Stewart-

1. A great big bang made a lot of noise (or did it; nobody was there to hear it) and an incredible amount of stuff went out further and further into space (don't know where that came from!). The most amazing thing is that all this matter came from nothing. Strange. That's what the Bible says, that the Almighty 'spoke' the universe into existence.

2. After the stars had formed into swirly things called galaxies, and cooled down, there was one planet which was in exactly the right position for life to exist. If the planet had been a bit larger or a bit smaller or a bit nearer the sun or a bit further from the sun it would have been a disaster. The earth's rotation and tilt are also just right as are many other aspects of the planet. You would think the Solar System had been designed just for us!

3. Eventually a string of all left-handed amino acids joined up in a warm pond somewhere to form a protein. RNA somehow developed too and this first living thing gave rise to all of the different animals and plants we see today. The process requires vast amounts of new genetic code to be written, but the amazing thing is that almost all the mutations we see in the world today result in a *loss* of genetic information.

Brilliant! Absolutely cracking! This is simply a masterpiece. It must have taken such work, such care, to carefully piece together a detailed description of the origin of the universe, and life. A description in which every single scientific statement is the precise opposite of the truth. Not just dodgy, not just a distortion, but exactly the opposite of the truth.

I have to say, I am in awe.

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49. Comment #404001 by decius on August 9, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Comment #403998 by Steve Zara

Why, didn't you know that a bang is a loud noise, uh?

Aren't stars cool to watch? So they must have cooled down.

You evilutionists are so ignorant.

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50. Comment #404004 by Mr. Forrest on August 9, 2009 at 10:38 pm

Erhm... setting aside the friggin awesome stupidity of asserting the non-explanation of God as a first cause, Thinking that the big bang actually went "BANG!" is so damn fucking stupid I can't believe no-one has pointed that out...

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