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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments |

Video Good Reasons for 'Believing' in God

Dan Dennett, AAI, RDFRS, Josh Timonen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvJZQwy9dvE

Download Quicktime version (480p)

*** This is NOT the new talk from AAI 2009, this is from 2007. I just wanted to get it up on our youtube channel. - Josh

Dan Dennett's talk at the AAI 2007 Conference in Washington, D.C. He is presented with the 2007 Richard Dawkins award at the introduction.

Read Dan Dennett's 'THANK GOODNESS!' article here

Buy the DVD with all the AAI 2007 videos at store.richarddawkins.net
AAI 07 DVD


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Filmed by
JOSH TIMONEN
WAYNE MARSALA

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1. Comment #431202 by Eshto on November 11, 2009 at 9:21 pm

 avatarCool, thanks Josh.

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2. Comment #431224 by Peter Beattie on November 11, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Thanks, Josh. Do you have a download version available as usual?

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3. Comment #431232 by dazzjazz on November 11, 2009 at 10:22 pm

 avatarJosh, how do you get permission to post videos on Youtube that are longer than 10 minutes?

Surely not via prayer?!

Darren

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4. Comment #431238 by Josh Timonen on November 11, 2009 at 10:58 pm

 avatarQT versions coming soon.

Longer youtube videos are allowed if you become a youtube 'partner.'

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5. Comment #431255 by dazzjazz on November 12, 2009 at 12:13 am

 avatarWow - Desi and Lucy both believe in "Rock" - what a perfect way to describe the multitude of versions of 'god' that people believe in these days!

Hilarious and Informative!

Darren

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6. Comment #431263 by alovrin on November 12, 2009 at 1:34 am

 avatarAgain Dan is an expert explainer.
I can sympathize with his fear of catastrophic collapse of consensus which means societies come to an end.
Tho' on the other hand, as much as I fear it, I am assailed by thoughts that it may come down to such an event or series of events, being the only way that the ridiculous state of total disparities that exists in global human affairs will get some momentum toward change.
As for another subject he talked about, people who have invested some much effort believing in a god that they are scared of the embarrassment of having to admit to being wrong.
While Dan feel's some sympathy for them, which is admirable.
I just cant, its only embarrassment, it doesn't last forever.

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7. Comment #431278 by moniz on November 12, 2009 at 4:01 am

 avatarIf you want to download it, simple trick for Firefox users. get the "Sothink Web Video Downloader" extension. It will download any flash based video off the web. Just start the video and click the navigation bar button when it starts flashing. You will need VLC to play the video, but that's free too! Enjoy.

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8. Comment #431314 by Shiva on November 12, 2009 at 7:59 am

 avatarCan't wait to watch this :)

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9. Comment #431326 by Rawhard Dickins on November 12, 2009 at 9:35 am

 avatarNow I realise how much I need Jesus!






When will the auction be?

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10. Comment #431330 by MrPickwick on November 12, 2009 at 10:25 am

 avatar@2 and @7:

If you want to download any video from the web with just a click get Firefox and this extension (100% ad free):
http://bit.ly/2LrT9N
You can download any type of videos. In Youtube you can download the flv version, mp4, HQ, etc.

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11. Comment #431485 by BigJohn on November 12, 2009 at 10:40 pm

 avatar@moniz
I use a Firefox plugin called DownloadHelper to do what you are doing with Sothink Web Video Downloader. I downloaded this Dennett video in high res and it was a 475 Mb flv file. I played it with FLV. I do wish Dan would trim his 'stach just a bit, though. I find the stray tufts to be a little distracting. I also use SUPER when I wish to convert a file like this to watch on my phone.

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12. Comment #431489 by GOTT MIT UNS on November 12, 2009 at 10:55 pm

 avatarAfter listening to this presentation I have only one comment.

Attention unemployed christian theologians and priests,
Local shopping malls offer you employment opportunity for the festive season 2009. They have numerous positions of Santa Claus with excellent reward system (double pay on Sunday) and working conditions.
Convincing fable telling and rudimentary singing skills required.
Fake beards are provided if necessary.
NOTE : Clearance from Child protection authorities required.
During Spring hols 2010 easter bunny positions will be available (female applicants are welcome).

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13. Comment #431500 by mcgmelo1 on November 12, 2009 at 11:26 pm

<br

"Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge not always will increase"


I became aware of the fact that some "scientists" are in fact, and (like a magazine very good exposed in an article ) or I had heard in a conference about evolution to a general audience : that in fact some people ( "science users") make use of science intending to destroy it from the inside", so must be the case for instances of Behe, who is making the best use he can from a scholarship he had , only to do exactly what the article mentioned "to destroy science from the inside", and , since( or even before), I doubt about some "scientists". Sloan is one of them ( I am sorry ) .
Did Daniel Dennett noticed some pale light of doubt in a scientist, so congratulations ( he was not blinded by the word "scientist ").
What Sloan wrote in his book " Darwin´s Cathedral " that Daniel Dennett discusses in this video seems not science, but speculation without ethical concerns .

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14. Comment #431791 by mcgmelo1 on November 14, 2009 at 3:31 pm




Only the first minute is in Portuguese, after the interview is in French.


Ah,


This would meant to be my tribute to Claude Lévi- Strauss that died in last October at the age of 100, and, perhaps, to cultural anthropology and the assumption that humans are considered to have the same habilities than other humans ( with variety, of course ), due to cultural and social environment mostly perhaps ( and of course, culture has a biological basis ).
Strange that we can compare the behavior of other species with our own because of similarities, and yet, there are people that find evolutive differences between humans so "significative".

" Evolutive analisis of humanity within Humanity " cannot be possible without being ethically wrong, even if factualy we are evolving at every minute.
With such an analisis, we could expect that humanity will evolve into two groups: one where adaptation to a" not literal or factual reality happens", and one ( that seems that happens to be the scientist group ) where desaptation and adaptation to a factual reality leads to a different subspecies.

( I Am just joking ...)


And, I am not joking now: for more speculations I could imagine, this happens to really happen.

It would be just great to remember someone´s words ( in a bad translation ):


- "We are heading for a global civilization." You say that there is "a system of mutual interpenetration" whatever you mean by that£
- I mean that from the late eighteenth century Western civilization is aware that through it´s power, it´s strength, it spread throughout the land and threatened the existence of thousands of small societies whose cultural creative, artistic, social and religious differences were essential to the heritage of humanity. All what we can do or say is to expect that with this sort of great synthesis that is being built is that new differences will appear, new originality, new ways that we cannot imagine and that will help humans to stay creative .
- In "Tristes Tropiques" you wrote:
"Social life destroys what gives it its flavor," do you still thinking in this way£
- Yes I do.

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15. Comment #432424 by Follow Peter Egan on November 17, 2009 at 10:00 am

 avatarReally excellent talk, I thoroughly enjoyed this on the way to work this morning whilst stuck in traffic, so many thanks for posting.

I especially related to Dennett's explanation of people who profess belief who don't actually believe, who hate plain-speaking atheists for forcing them to choose between lying (by continuing to profess belief they don't actually hold) or betrayal, of say parents, who would not like their offspring to reject the theism they brought them up with. I strongly suspect my brother-in-law falls into this category. As a trained chemist, I find it hard to believe he buys "transubstantiation". He's not a "reflective" person, and Dennett's excellent on that point too, so maybe he's happy enough not examining his "beliefs".

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16. Comment #438998 by artisfact on December 5, 2009 at 9:12 pm

Dan is a captivating speaker. I really enjoy the way he explains complex ideas.

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17. Comment #439021 by mcgmelo1 on December 5, 2009 at 11:14 pm

<br

"Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge not always will increase"


I became aware of the fact that some "scientists" are in fact, and (like a magazine very good exposed in an article ) or I had heard in a conference about evolution to a general audience : that in fact some people ( "science users") make use of science intending to destroy it from the inside", so must be the case for instances of Behe, who is making the best use he can from a scholarship he had , only to do exactly what the article mentioned "to destroy science from the inside", and , since( or even before), I doubt about some "scientists". Sloan is one of them ( I am sorry ) .
Did Daniel Dennett noticed some pale light of doubt in a scientist, so congratulations ( he was not blinded by the word "scientist ").
What Sloan wrote in his book " Darwin´s Cathedral " that Daniel Dennett discusses in this video seems not science, but speculation without ethical concerns .

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18. Comment #439258 by mcgmelo1 on December 6, 2009 at 10:17 pm

My last comment ( on this "subject" ),

<br
Image:"Sir Lancelot"

Carlos Dugos



when Daniel Dennett refers that there must be so many "concepts of God as people", I believe he must admire what Claude Lévi-Strauss admired too : the structuralist linguistics of Ferdinand Saussure.
It seems that what is "religion" is in fact just intolerence etc, I believe it so.

Like Saussure´s chess analogue puts the arbitrarity of the linguistic sign :Language is like a chess game, where we look for the "meaning" in reference with other elements/pieces in chessboard,in a particular discourse or in historical time ( or both ) that occupy a different place each time we move a chess piece.

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