1. Atheists for Jesus

Comment #40378 by michaelmichael on May 14, 2007 at 7:42 am

TXS.R.D. stated; "dismissing jesus as god has nothing to do with endorsing him as teacher". Fair comment, and yet I do choose to dismiss Jesus as a teacher.

That is not to say he didn't teach some good moral lessons. No, my point is that he was duplicitous and dishonest regarding his very identity. He raised the hopes of the Jewish people at that time and his story has fraudulently raised the hopes of billions of suffering people over the past two millenia.

Why do we call this liar the 'Good Teacher' and why in the name of reason, rationality and humanity would any moral person - atheist or believer - say that they are 'for Jesus'?

Not this atheist.

2. Atheists for Jesus

Comment #28793 by michaelmichael on March 30, 2007 at 11:05 pm

Having reached an atheistic outlook, I began to wonder where logic would take me when re-examing the story of Jesus. If there is no God then Jesus must clearly have lied when he claimed to be the son of God. If the laws of physics are immutable then clearly Jesus, either alone or more likely in concert with others, was being deceitful when he claimed to have performed miraculous cures, resurrections and other miracles like walking on water.

A serious study of what Jesus actually said leads a person to one of three conclusions about him: He was either a liar, an insanely deluded madman, or the Messiah, the Son of God. It is ridiculous to simply take the position that he was just 'a good teacher' and a nice person.

Atheists should NOT be for Jesus.