Comments by Aradan

Comment #163597 by Aradan on April 18, 2008 at 3:31 pm

I am also disgusted with the disingenuous and misleading tack the film takes in twisting the example Richard presented to illustrate that the Intelligent Designer train of thought is actually a circle into suggesting that Richard Dawkins believes in aliens. It is pathetic, and shame on them.

If ID proponents attempt a naturalistic approach arguing the Intelligent Designer(s) could have been aliens (like the Raelians believe) the Intelligent Design argument still breaks down into a circular argument that runs afoul of a pesky problem with infinite regress. Following the circle of thought in the Intelligent Design argument, any alleged alien Intelligent Designers would have likewise required their own Intelligent Designer(s). And those Intelligent Designer(s) would have also required designers, and so on and so forth.

If Intelligent Design proponents contend special pleading that 'their' Intelligent Designer did not need to be created by another Intelligent Designer they've got a significant logical challenge. If they have to resort to special pleading to allow for their Intelligent Designer not having required its own Intelligent Designer(s), they've shot the ID argument straight through the foot. If their designer did not require a designer, then why did life on earth?

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Comment #163066 by Aradan on April 18, 2008 at 12:04 am

Brilliant!

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Comment #154014 by Aradan on April 2, 2008 at 11:41 am

There is an obvious flaw in the intelligent design argument that should have stopped Creationists in their tracks a long time ago…if they ever bothered to pause and think about the illogic of their argument.

If life requires an intelligent designer, then logically if follows that whoever or whatever the intelligent designer might be would have also required its own intelligent designer - since such a creative intelligence would necessarily have the attributes of life. Being alive, that intelligent designer would have likewise required another intelligent designer, and so would have that designers' designers', and so on and so forth, ad infinitum. A bit of logic and scrutiny makes it quickly apparent that the intelligent design argument is a self-defeating, circular argument of infinite regress that is ironically, quite unintelligent.

If intelligent design proponents contend that 'their' intelligent designer did not need to be created by another intelligent designer, then neither did life on earth- thus their entire argument smacks headlong into a solid wall of logic and reason that stops it dead in its tracks.

If the intelligent design proponents try a naturalistic approach - say for example that the intelligent designer(s) were aliens (like the Raelians believe) then the intelligent design argument still breaks down into a circular argument of infinite regress. Logically, any alien intelligent designers would have likewise required their own intelligent designers. Then those intelligent designers would have also required designers, and so on and so forth. It runs into the same problem.

Cheers,

Aradan.