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1. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #156138 by octopus on April 7, 2008 at 12:18 am

#156071 mikejswalker

I do not have a problem with anyone calling me heartless bastard...but for the right reasons please.

I do have problem with someone twisting my words - Steve, Mike thanks.

This is rather sad...firstly, 'log' suicide method is not the most sophisticated one...and secondly - he failed. He is not quite 'Nobel prize' material, is he?


I am not saying it is sad that he failed to kill himself. I am saying the way he thinks saddens me. His ability to process ideas seems to be at the lower end of the range.


I do not think mockery is at the expense of one's suffering.
It is at the expense of one's stupidity (as always).

He is not even capable of killing himself (including the choice of suicide method).
And yet, he tried to tell other people how to live their lives.

I do find it ironic.



One more time:

This is rather sad ... (meant as general conclusion of his state of intellect)

...firstly, 'log' suicide method is not the most sophisticated one...(choice of suicide method indicates level of stupidity)

...and secondly - he failed. (not being even able to commit suicide - again indicates how utterly stupid the man is)

He is not quite 'Nobel prize' material, is he? (this is rather diplomatic way of concluding he is an idiot)


Although I could not care less what happens to him - I have never felt sad (or happy or anything) for his suicide failure.

2. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #155613 by octopus on April 5, 2008 at 4:59 am

I do not think mockery is at the expense of one's suffering.
It is at the expense of one's stupidity (as always).

He is not even capable of killing himself (including the choice of suicide method).
And yet, he tried to tell other people how to live their lives.

I do find it ironic.

3. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #154947 by octopus on April 4, 2008 at 2:57 am

I hope I am misunderstanding you...

Yes, you are. I am not saying it is sad that he failed to kill himself. I am saying the way he thinks saddens me. His ability to process ideas seems to be at the lower end of the range.
I think he needs proper help. I wonder if he can get that in Russia.

4. Cult leader Pyotr Kuznetsov tries suicide after realising he was wrong about doomsday

Comment #154938 by octopus on April 4, 2008 at 2:37 am

...after he was discovered hitting himself over the head with a log.

This is rather sad...firstly, 'log' suicide method is not the most sophisticated one...and secondly - he failed. He is not quite 'Nobel prize' material, is he?

5. Thy will be done

Comment #154292 by octopus on April 3, 2008 at 4:23 am

They'll happily raise any issue…as long as it takes attention off their enormous salaries.

6. Ban anti-Catholic books in schools, says bishop

Comment #143205 by octopus on March 13, 2008 at 4:25 pm

The Rt Rev Patrick O'Donoghue, Bishop of Lancaster, told MPs that books critical of the Catholic faith should be banned from school libraries.

I have even better idea. Why not simply burn libraries with such books and readers in them?

7. Taking evidence seriously

Comment #135056 by octopus on February 28, 2008 at 1:40 pm

...the NHS will introduce bloodletting...

Hmmm...perhaps IR would be better at this...

8. Archbishop's 8 March centennial message: Let Sharia Law govern women's lives, Amen!

Comment #128599 by octopus on February 17, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Multiculturalism is racism; cultural relativism is racism; this should be recognized once and for all. By defining different laws for different citizens on the basis of such arbitrary concepts such as culture or religion, we leave the lot of the weakest sections of that so-called "cultural community" to the mercy of the self-imposed leaders of that community.

Could not agree more.

11. Map reveals extent of human damage to oceans

Comment #127616 by octopus on February 15, 2008 at 1:13 pm

You may jest, but I find it unsettling that it looks like we are producing an excess of CO2 of such volume that it is equivalent to that of continent-wide eruptions of flood basalt at the end of the Permian.

And may I add...anyone who simply ignores exponential growth of our population is a little bit short sighted.

13. Murder plot against Danish cartoonist

Comment #126147 by octopus on February 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm

I still think those cartoons are cheap. This is some proper stuff. Feel free to click prev/next.
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2006/08/07/wrong/

17. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned

Comment #125991 by octopus on February 12, 2008 at 11:01 am

I have to disagree. You can wear a burqa. You can wear a tooth-fairy costume if you want to. What you cannot do is force anyone else to wear one. If you try and do so by threat of violence, be prepared to face criminal charges. You can 'import' a wife, but she is protected by all the laws of the country and if she charges you with spousal-rape, then you will be charged. The law is consistently applied to all in the land; no exceptions for the laws of your imaginary friends. No Christian schools. No Islamic schools. Secular schools, if you want to educate you children about your religion, you do it on your own time. Your Imams or priests can preach hatred, but they can also be called on it, mocked for it, and held up as contemptible figures.

I could go with this.

18. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned

Comment #125937 by octopus on February 12, 2008 at 9:44 am

I don't know if you're getting at the example of the Moroccans in Barcelona or the Muslims that call for sharia law in England.

I think I am just concerned about generalisations. Generalisations in this sense usually lead to injustice, group responsibility and work against us in the end.
Thanks for the answer.

19. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned

Comment #125921 by octopus on February 12, 2008 at 9:08 am

@Keith

I am just curious...how would you decide whom to send to Morocco?

20. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned

Comment #125900 by octopus on February 12, 2008 at 8:31 am

#125884

A bit of double standard there.
At one hand, there is argument for secular society, which in essence means that law is designed around individual and applies to individual.
At the other hand generalisation is made, group responsibility invoked and it is not only individual in question that is involved any more.
Have I missed something here?

21. Sharia fiasco

Comment #124928 by octopus on February 10, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Why can't the British (and the European people in general) just tell the Muslims to piss off and go back to Arabia if they want Sharia?!

Well, I guess British atheists will have to piss off to Sweden then...or maybe even China.

23. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #124070 by octopus on February 8, 2008 at 9:22 am

"What I can say with full confidence is that our system violates the law of conservation of energy," he says.

27. Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

Comment #123910 by octopus on February 8, 2008 at 1:40 am

Brit1: I like sporty ladies.

Brit2: Me too. I just married female netball team yesterday.

28. Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

Comment #123698 by octopus on February 7, 2008 at 2:15 pm

I think Rowan is becoming serious promoter of atheism. :D

29. Sprinting down the evolutionary highway

Comment #121714 by octopus on February 4, 2008 at 3:02 am

I guess that she meant something like "for an (1/8)-th less than before". About 10%.
I also wonder if they are talking about cranial volume.

31. Atheists in Jail

Comment #117022 by octopus on January 28, 2008 at 5:23 am

Then you have to drag the victim to a carpet and roll him up.


Not worth it mate. Carpets are rather expensive nowadays.

Interesting link:
Quotes-atheism

32. Islam in Europe

Comment #114670 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 2:35 pm

I do not think nationalism is much better solution than religion.

33. Florida in the process of approving new science standards

Comment #114430 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 7:51 am

I must forcibly object. Any game where there are tea breaks, and the game last 3 or 5 days, there is a problem.

Insert somewhere "...and one plays in jumper...".

35. The OUT Campaign has its own Flea!

Comment #114338 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 2:17 am

Theisms, for all their bogusness, can provide effective scaffolding for extremely good moral and behavioural codes.

I would probably agree, but for different reasons. I think theism is parasite.
It imposes moral norms on the people and asks for no questioning of the norms.
Once people's moral apparatus is fully taken over and with only rudimentary leftovers of critical thought, theism becomes necessary moral tool.
It is like parasite that gets into fish mouth, eats its tongue and then position itself where tongue used to be, taking over all the functions of the tongue. Fish cannot live without its parasite anymore.

Not for squeamish:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4200000/newsid_4209000/4209004.stm

36. This Week's Flea

Comment #114336 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 1:54 am

Well, from what I can read, he picks and chooses what he likes in Bible. What he does not like, he ignores or distorts. He does the same with any other argument or reality. He (or any other wooter) chooses to consider points he likes, while ignoring others. It is intellectual dishonesty to say the least. Not to ask how he justifies the choice or some of the claims that he so easily makes.

37. This Week's Flea

Comment #114327 by octopus on January 22, 2008 at 12:41 am

...you can't just pick and choose.

Of course you can.
Come on people. Pick your own deity while it is on the cheap.*




*number of places limited for JW.

38. This Week's Flea

Comment #114211 by octopus on January 21, 2008 at 2:51 pm

It don't get much more merciful than that! ;-)

It is also just, as in non-discriminatory...better than plague.

"Vengeance is His Alone". (Deut. 32:35; Rom. 12:19 and 44 other Scriptural references).

39. This Week's Flea

Comment #114146 by octopus on January 21, 2008 at 12:52 pm

...the Bible as a truthful reflection of the character of God.

...pick and choose mate...pick and choose...

40. Gay Jesus play blasted by bishop

Comment #114038 by octopus on January 21, 2008 at 9:05 am

It's historical nonsense and I wouldn't want to go and see it. Life's too short.

What's the big deal...you have the next one anyway...

42. Britain cannot put its faith in religiously divided schools

Comment #113593 by octopus on January 20, 2008 at 6:28 am

Cannot wait to see the first school for Jedi knights to be publicly funded. May force be with you!

43. Ethical storm as scientist becomes first man to clone HIMSELF

Comment #113544 by octopus on January 20, 2008 at 1:24 am

Ethical storm as scientist becomes first man to clone HIMSELF

Scientist uses his DNA for creation of few hundred cells

What a difference , eh?

44. New Findings Confirm Darwin's Theory: Evolution Not Random

Comment #113406 by octopus on January 19, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Evolution has a direction

...perhaps if you add
"towards optimal solution for given organism and the conditions at the time"
?

45. Debate between Sam Harris and Reza Aslan

Comment #113233 by octopus on January 19, 2008 at 4:06 am

I am a year late here.
After Reza's verbal diarrhoea I can only agree with #22711. I extracted a pearl to justify my ad hom.

Well I think that it's certainly true that science has (sort of) rules and regulations that are far different than rules and regulations of theology, but that's because there are alternative modes of knowing, there are alternative means through which you probe reality. And while science unquestionably has a monopoly on facts, it has no monopoly on truth. Quite the opposite. And the idea that (sort of) physicality or materiality are the sole means through which one can investigate reality, through which one can probe reality...I think that even science itself would probably disagree with that.

46. Why people believe weird things about money

Comment #112887 by octopus on January 18, 2008 at 8:27 am

Aquatic Ape Hypothesis
Being freediver, I am biased towards this theory (wishful thinking), but I have to admit it is not easy to justify it.

The theory would certainly neatly explain the fact that only humans and aquatic mammals can cry (apparently the way to get rid of extra salt). Body width/length ratio is rather good for swimming. Lack of hairs. But there are also many objections to it.

47. Why people believe weird things about money

Comment #112865 by octopus on January 18, 2008 at 7:45 am

Breathing is a choice.

Just to make it clear - I am not trying to prove anything that is going on in this thread (could not be bothered to read the lot). I just thought this might be interesting.

It is high level of CO2 in blood that gives you urge to breathe (feedback control signal) - NOT low level of O2 as one would assume on the first thought.

While in humans breathing is unconscious activity, dolphins seem to have to breathe consciously. Anesthetised dolphin will die. Dolphins also sleep only with one hemisphere at the time, so the other hemisphere can control breathing.

Fascinating, isn't it? Who would want to swap thrill of research for "god did it" defeatism?

48. The Group Delusion

Comment #112821 by octopus on January 18, 2008 at 6:27 am

It is pity that very specific topic is hijacked.

49. Gigantic fossil rodent discovered

Comment #112609 by octopus on January 17, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Good news for creationists. Number of "missing links" has just increased...again... :D

50. Huckabee Wants A 'Faith-based' Constitution

Comment #111886 by octopus on January 16, 2008 at 12:41 am

I am a little bit concerned that when it comes to "God's standards" we might end up playing that old game "that is not my God you are talking about".

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