1. I Am Evolution

Comment #178589 by Rational_G on May 11, 2008 at 4:36 pm

rickenbacker77 has it right.

And the author explains exactly what she means in the first few sentences.

So everybody chill out.

Nice essay.

2. Scientists Know Better Than You--Even When They're Wrong

Comment #178029 by Rational_G on May 10, 2008 at 9:47 am

This article IS bad. An not just because it makes a lame criticism of RD.

It's wishy washy no value added incoherent nonsense.

As has been mentioned, science didn't break up the space shuttles - bureaucracy did. Maybe he should take his social studies "skills" and study bureaucracy instead of scientists. Then he might actually contribute something.

3. What really goes on at the Large Hadron Collider

Comment #176109 by Rational_G on May 6, 2008 at 3:05 pm

Too bad some of you folks don't appreciate pure research. You would think "a clear thinking oasis" would know better. Apparently not. Better to comment on hairstyles and accents. Or tell people what they should be working on instead. I'm disappointed.

4. Pat Condell: Anthology DVD available now!

Comment #175615 by Rational_G on May 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Peacebeuponme:

I like Mr Condell's sarcasm. The religious types deserve it. I don't put Condell in the same league as a Dawkins or a Carlin - I'm not trying to - there's no need for him to be in that league for me to appreciate his contribution. And he does make me laugh.

Cheers.

5. Pat Condell: Anthology DVD available now!

Comment #175038 by Rational_G on May 4, 2008 at 8:32 am

I can't believe you stodgy twits giving Condell a hard time. Let's just treat religion with kid gloves then.....

"Another cup of tea before you continue to trample on my human rights and deny scientific evidence?"

Condell is funny, angry, clever and calls out religion for the insult to human dignity that it is. I find the logic of his arguments compelling. We have every reason to be angry about the crap we have to put up with religion. It is a speed bump on the road to human progress and happiness. The shit organized religion gets away with is appalling.

As RD says, it's time to stop being so damned polite.

Oh, and peace - especially you uptight types.

6. Science leads to killing people

Comment #174534 by Rational_G on May 2, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Ben Stein is a total dickhead.

7. Pat Condell: Anthology DVD available now!

Comment #172525 by Rational_G on April 29, 2008 at 4:59 pm

Condell's funny - and he makes some good points. I like his rants.

Carlin is a comic genius, up there with Richard Pryor.

8. Orangutan attempts to hunt fish with spear

Comment #171723 by Rational_G on April 28, 2008 at 6:17 pm

I think this had something to do with it.......

http://www.palantir.net/2001/tma1/pics/dawn06.jpg

9. Does science make belief in God obsolete?

Comment #170073 by Rational_G on April 27, 2008 at 10:38 am

Science has destroyed the notion of God. It was on flimsy footing to begin with and science has finished the job. There is no need to postulate the supernatural.

Oh yeah, and screw Templeton and his religious soft sell.

10. Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

Comment #167267 by Rational_G on April 23, 2008 at 7:43 pm

The answer is..........

Yes!

11. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166149 by Rational_G on April 22, 2008 at 8:54 pm

Ben Stein is an ignorant fool

12. Evolution fray attracts top scientist

Comment #162350 by Rational_G on April 16, 2008 at 5:32 pm

To the Large Extinct Bird:

Books don't suck.

Airplanes don't suck.

Travel doesn't suck.

Oil doesn't suck.

The real world (yes an objective reality out there) doesn't suck.

Wikipedia doesn't suck - but it is hardly a definitive source of anything. An Ok starting point but that's all.

Demonizing things unnecessarily - that sucks.

13. Richard Dawkins' secular army must be stopped. God is behind some of our greatest art

Comment #161069 by Rational_G on April 14, 2008 at 5:59 pm

What an asshole. How lazy can you be, not even bothering to research your subject? How can the Guardian publish this?

14. The Oxford Book of Modern Science Writing

Comment #161062 by Rational_G on April 14, 2008 at 5:49 pm

My copy arrived today from Amazon USA . Originally said I'd have to wait till May 15 - arrived today!

Wonderful book. One I'll be going back to again and again to savor. Bookmark a nice touch.

Thanks, RD for the wonderful collection.

15. Biologists Take Evolution Beyond Darwin Way Beyond

Comment #155958 by Rational_G on April 6, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Note to self - ignore Wired Magazine science articles

16. Biologists Take Evolution Beyond Darwin Way Beyond

Comment #155940 by Rational_G on April 6, 2008 at 11:21 am

Have things

"largely been settled in favor of what paleontologists Niles Eldredge and Stephen Jay Gould termed punctuated equilibrium." ??

17. Beware the Believers

Comment #155795 by Rational_G on April 5, 2008 at 9:38 pm

speculawyer:

I concur.

18. Beware the Believers

Comment #154093 by Rational_G on April 2, 2008 at 3:41 pm

"I'll ignore your cheap aroma
And your Little bo peep diploma
I'll just put you in a coma
with some........

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6602788327816663997&q=zappa dirty love&total=41&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

19. Beware the Believers

Comment #153594 by Rational_G on April 1, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Here's some pretty cheezy lyrics...... (complete with muzac music version accompaniment)

and yet I enjoy singing it - the chorus especially - though I can't keep a straight face

http://www.geocities.com/bjaes.geo/lyrics/mcarthur.htm

You Brits of a certain age should know it well...

20. Beware the Believers

Comment #152842 by Rational_G on March 31, 2008 at 4:06 pm

Do they make Pound Sign rap jewelry?

21. Beware the Believers

Comment #152831 by Rational_G on March 31, 2008 at 3:51 pm

Hi everyone.

In the interest of being a good sport and a careful scientist, let me go on record that although I'm 99% sure the makers of this video are sympathetic to science, I'm not 100% certain and have no QED evidence. I just think it's extremely probable.

I don't need to be right, and if proven wrong, I will happily acquiesce.

Sure is a clever snappy tune regardless.....

C'mon sing along!

"I'm the Dickie D!
I gots my PHD!"

(raises the roof)

22. Beware the Believers

Comment #152376 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 9:22 pm

Some of you people are way too paranoid. Must I point out the lyrics to the song for umpteenth time?

Just read the lyrics. What does that tell you?
No sophisticated analysis needed.

75% of the video is a song saying how good science is!

The pro-iders would never approve this - there's too many good things about science being said here.

If this is a virus, it's spreading some pretty good lines promoting science. On balance there is more pro science here than anti science. So sleep well, conspiracy theorists!

DICK TO THE DAWK TO THE PHD !!

23. Beware the Believers

Comment #152268 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 3:06 pm

I'm over 50, I got it, and I don't even like rap.

A pro-science rhyme is OK by me.

".....cause I'm the rappinest, rabidest atheist who
unlike the Catholic, Muslim or even the Jew
believes that no God but science could ever be true....."

Good stuff!

24. Beware the Believers

Comment #152244 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 2:24 pm

Science silenced that watchdog wingnut Paley
growing stronger and harder almost daily.....

(C'mon, sing along all you fuddy duddys, you can do it!)

storming Wilber by force
as we framed the discourse
that faith and science are split in schismatic divorce.....

(no non overlapping magesteria here! - can you dig it?)

Yo! Science & religion - not compatible!

25. Beware the Believers

Comment #152239 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 2:11 pm

Time to open your eyes, get yourself wise, the age of science will rise to be religion's demise.......

Nice.

26. Beware the Believers

Comment #152223 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Hey people - it's just silly - with clever lyrics.

If the video ended with the "Expelled" frame (thanks for pointing out the obvious) you might have something. Indeed the first time I saw the first minute of the video I thought it was going to be anti-science - but the rest of the video is too clever I doubt it would be produced by the pro-id half wits. There are just too many good pro-science references in the lyrics - the id crowd would never dwell that long reciting a laundry list of the achievements of science over the last 400 years!

OK - worst case - I'm 100% wrong and it WAS produced by the ID crowd - so what? They failed miserably then - They have given us a catchy ditty filled with accurate science references in a form that young people can relate to!!

The scientists are shown as hip ( and it is funny to see academics in rap clothes - if I have to explain that then you are beyond all hope of a sense of humor - would you rather they be depicted as nerds, the usual case?)

Yeah, they have an attitude - good. A little chest pumping by the guys and gals with evidence on their side.

It's just good fun.

27. Beware the Believers

Comment #152111 by Rational_G on March 30, 2008 at 6:36 am

It's pro science all the way - with satire of scientists thrown in for fun.

Even if it's not pro science (which I doubt) it's given us a catchy pro science song to sing.

Oh horrors, scientists being satirized!

Oh horrors, the music's not sophisticated!

Oh, horrors, It might take a few hearings to catch all the lyrics! (which are pretty clever and comment positively on the history of science and the importance of Darwin - what more do you want??)

It's a joke, people. Lighten up.

28. Beware the Believers

Comment #151942 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 5:31 pm

What Jack Rawlinson said.

29. Beware the Believers

Comment #151923 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Nova -

You are exactly right that the vast majority of scientists (the good ones) are very patient with the BS they have to put up with and that telling it straight is often wrongly perceived as arrogance.

Usually the arrogant ones are second rate.

30. Beware the Believers

Comment #151908 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 4:42 pm

We are smarter than them.

Many of us have science degrees.

They're deluded - remember?

31. Beware the Believers

Comment #151890 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 4:12 pm

I can't believe we're deconstructing humor.

If I slip on a banana peel and fall - after I make sure I haven't broken any bones I'd probably laugh at what happened.

You can laugh at yourself sometimes - unless you're wrapped up too tight.

So yes, scientists dressed up as rappers is funny.

And us science types can be a little arrogant at times.

So it's Ok to laugh at one self once in a while - healthy even.

I though the lyrics were clever - and I don't really like rap.

32. Beware the Believers

Comment #151834 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Steve -

Damn your correct use of language! :-)

You're a very smart old fogey.

I'm an old "dude" myself.

33. Beware the Believers

Comment #151829 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 2:12 pm

We might have lost at Scopes, beaten down by the dopes, and the stooges of popes, but in losin' we coped, becomin' more than we hoped, creationists slipped on the soap of their own slippery slope.

What was impossible, improbable, is now wholly unstoppable untoppleable, the Dick Doc'll roll up as you creationists foldup

34. Beware the Believers

Comment #151822 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 1:38 pm

Artful_Dodger:

All wrong. You don't get it. It's pro science AND it's making fun of the scientists at the same time. It's called self-deprecating humor. If you can't laugh at yourself, dude......

Yeah, we're in your face, we're pissed. and we're right!!

Throw that creationist MOTHA F**KA outta the ivory tower, YEAH!

35. Beware the Believers

Comment #151814 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 1:06 pm

SF:

I hate you! :-)

36. Beware the Believers

Comment #151796 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 12:15 pm

An atheist war cry that you can tap your feet to.....

Gotta love it.

37. Beware the Believers

Comment #151788 by Rational_G on March 29, 2008 at 11:43 am

People, loosen up a little bit.

It's obviously pro science - and funny in spots.

38. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #150936 by Rational_G on March 27, 2008 at 5:22 pm

I agree with Steve Zara- I prefer reality to a cartoon - no matter how slick. The cartoon is misleading -it gives off aura of authenticity that it doesn't deserve.

The problem with computer graphics is that they are so good now they can be confused with reality. This is bad if what you're trying to do is convey reality.

Models are fine - as long as they are advertised as models.

If you're interested in nature - observe nature - not a computer program.

39. It looks like Man crucified

Comment #148480 by Rational_G on March 23, 2008 at 7:11 am

My Easter Theme Song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9zqf6KVMOM

40. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #147502 by Rational_G on March 20, 2008 at 6:13 pm

Teratornis -

We don't always agree by I appreciate your thorough replies.

Here's to an energy secure future!!

41. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #147012 by Rational_G on March 19, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Pathfinder:

Space exploration vs. solving problems on Earth - It's not a zero sum game. Stopping all space exploration will not get the world's problems solved any faster. It doesn't work that way.

In fact, the societies that perform space exploration are the same societies that will solve our problems.

I assume you mean human and not robotic space exploration.

Robotic space exploration has its utility. Want to keep our atmosphere healthy? Then you need to know how it works. Need to know how it works? Study more than one. How do you do that? Robot probes to Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and study their atmospheres.

Human space exploration - less of a utility in the short term. We're just taking a few tentative steps. But a healthy activity in the long term.

"The Earth is the cradle of humanity, but mankind cannot stay in the cradle forever." - Konstantin Tsiolkovsky

42. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #147003 by Rational_G on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Teratornis:

You could ground the world's jet fleet tomorrow and have done next to nothing to solve the world's energy supply problem and next to nothing to reduce greenhouse gasses.

Airplanes are not the problem. Low gas mileage cars are.

If anything will save us, it will be science and technology, performed by people inspired by the likes of Azimov, Clarke, Sagan, Dawkins.

Yeah, there's billionaires taking joy rides in space. I think they should leave it to the professional astronauts and cosmonauts but so what? It's irrelevant.

I worry about overfishing the oceans, the lack of fresh water, habitat and species destruction. I don't worry about airplanes.

There's no lack of ideas from the scientific and engineering community. What there is is a lack of political will, a general population addicted to consumerism and the cult of celebrity personality, short term business thinking, and a cynical media.

Clarke et al are heroes.

43. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #146204 by Rational_G on March 18, 2008 at 6:48 pm

NY Times obit:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/books/19clarke.html?hp

44. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #146105 by Rational_G on March 18, 2008 at 4:02 pm

Forgot to mention his positive influence on millions, a la Sagan and Azimov

45. Writer Arthur C Clarke dies at 90

Comment #146095 by Rational_G on March 18, 2008 at 3:49 pm

Not to be picky, but the screenplay to 2001 came first, co-written by Clarke and Kubrick. The novel came later.

That being said, sad to see Mr Clarke go. Enjoyed his short stories and his take on science & technology.

46. The Oxford Book of Modern Science Writing

Comment #144605 by Rational_G on March 16, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Wow. Great collection, nice themes. (saw table of contents on Amazon UK).

I'll be buying it.

47. Selling science to the masses

Comment #144534 by Rational_G on March 16, 2008 at 10:07 am

Framing is bs. Dumbing down to people is not the answer. Give it to people straight. And as PZ Meyers says, the problem is more with media and people in general than science. People "relate to" the bullshit they are fed on television. Whose fault is that? Is it the scientists' fault that people are more interested in Paris Hilton's party habits than the actual real world around them? Or that the they have a millisecond attention span? Or that they'd rather watch "Survivor" than witness a lunar eclipse?
Or have knee jerk communication via blogs (present site excepted of course)?

Not really. It's media and it's the lack of imagination in the people themselves - their imaginations dulled by media, consumerism, the cult of celebrity personality and mediocre education.

Give it to people straight - don't try to make it "cool'. That is dishonest. If people actually want to learn something about the real world they are going to have invest the time and be satisfied with not being instantly gratified. There are plenty of scientifically savvy people willing to communicate the richness and beauty of the real world clearly and directly.

Did Sagan dumb shit down? Does Dawkins? No.

48. Chemical brain controls nanobots

Comment #143203 by Rational_G on March 13, 2008 at 4:20 pm

ultimate_samurai:

I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean to equate skepticism of scientific claims with skepticism of religious claims.

Supernatural claims are nonsense. Religious dogma is nonsense. Scientific claims are peer reviewed. Big difference.

Science and technology are our only hope, in my opinion.

Cheers.

49. Chemical brain controls nanobots

Comment #142608 by Rational_G on March 12, 2008 at 8:38 pm

I understand where squinky is coming from and agree that a lot of these "breakthroughs" are hyped. And I've noticed that some people who post on this site are only too happy to believe some of the hype and want to believe that miracle breakthroughs are always just around the corner. The healthy skepticism we have about religion should also be applied to miraculous technological claims. It's all about having the capacity for independent critical thinking. Hopefully that is learned somewhere along the way (education, upbringing, life experience). I am the number one believer in science and technology and its capacity to provide enormous benefit (human genome, synthetic life, nuclear power, genetically modified food, stem cell research, it's all good) but at the same time I always have my bullshit detector on.

I wish the SSC had been built. As a pure research project. The US is wealthy enough to do it. I agree it should be justified on its own merits. Not because of "spinoffs". Same with the space program. If you can't justify something on its own merits then it doesn't deserve public funding. You make an honest case for it and let society decide.

I think it's OK to name drop your scientific credentials if you want. It's somewhat useful to the reader but of course it doesn't guarantee that you're right. I think if you do have some experience in a technical field you know how hard it is to actually discover something, or build something or make a breakthrough. And you do have a tendency to be skeptical (rightly in many cases) about wild speculation and shaky extrapolation. It's never that easy. What did Edison say? 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration? Sounds about right.

50. Chemical brain controls nanobots

Comment #142520 by Rational_G on March 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm

It is much ado about very little ;-)