Comments by zendal_darkman

Comment #153334 by zendal_darkman on April 1, 2008 at 11:57 am

run to the hills! The "militantly atheist and secularist lobby" are a'commin, and they care little for sincerely held beliefs.

2. Bishop accuses gays of 'conspiracy' against the Catholic Church

Comment #143104 by zendal_darkman on March 13, 2008 at 1:01 pm

I think the holocaust references date back to an event the catholic church supported last year (may be the year before). The church were happy to mentioned the gay and lesbian victims, but they objected to someone from the "gay community" speaking in their church.

A real LOL loud moment when I read that the church was criticizing others for faking "persecution".

the guy is a simple wanker.

3. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence

Comment #132655 by zendal_darkman on February 25, 2008 at 4:54 am

Remember that when it comes to visions.
Angels are good, rabbits are bad.

4. Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

Comment #123709 by zendal_darkman on February 7, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Thank god for Dr Williams. I was looking for an example of "a fool"

5. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #120961 by zendal_darkman on February 2, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Regarding the claim of "Harris wants me dead because I believe in god".

Harris:-
The link between belief and behaviour raises the stakes considerably. Some propositions are so dangerous that it may even be ethical to kill people for believing them. This may seem an extraordinary claim, but it merely enunciates an ordinary fact about the world in which we live. Certain beliefs place their adherents beyond the reach of every peaceful means of persuasion, while inspiring them to commit acts of extraordinary violence against others. There is, in fact, no talking to some people. If they cannot be captured, and they often cannot, otherwise tolerant people may be justified in killing them in self-defense. This is what the United States attempted in Afghanistan, and it is what we and other Western powers are bound to attempt, at an even greater cost to ourselves and to innocents abroad, elsewhere in the Muslim world. We will continue to spill blood in what is, at bottom, a war of ideas

I believe most (Amercian) Christians believe the same thing.

Of course the passage is often misrepresented by selective quoting, when you see this done, it is fair to hold the view that the author is dishonest and not at all "christ like"

6. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #120938 by zendal_darkman on February 2, 2008 at 7:21 pm

The problem with the study so far linked to is that it is simply comparing 'religious" to "none religious". You must compare like with like. If the "religious" children tend to be in a higher social/economic group than none religious, perhaps any differences to behavior in based on poverty.

What needs to be considered is; do children from similar backgrounds show differences in anti-social/moral behavior based on religious upbringing.

7. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #120910 by zendal_darkman on February 2, 2008 at 6:37 pm

Blacknad , Sorry if you have already mentioned them, but have you any links to these studies, as it is something I am quite interested in.

(please don't make me read 30 pages of threads to find the references or links!!!)

8. 'Irrational Atheist' trounces God-deniers

Comment #117656 by zendal_darkman on January 29, 2008 at 10:11 am

Below are two sample articles copied and pasted from www.voxday.net. Have fun!

Poor guy, his hatred of science is verging on the edge of a mental illness. Every day he must wake up to the superior position of science and each time it must be like a dagger going into his side.

His whole piece is simply full of holes. I had the pleasure of hearing Jack Kilby (the inventor of the IC (silicon chip)) speak in the 80s. He was collecting an award and he spoke about the importance of science at great length, he even has an annual award for science, technology and innovation named after him. He was also happy enough to pick up is (belated) nobel prize for physics. He was an outstanding research scientist, and even if "VOX" thinks that doesn't count, his invention was only posable through advanced semiconductor research (by scientists), something only posable through Quantum mechanics

It is worth noting that the Kilby acknowledged that his research was only posable because of the "defense" industry. If his research was used to develop a new type of bomb instead of the computer, would that make him one of the "nasty scientists"?

He is also said:-
'There is a thought in the history of science that everything will happen eventually, anyway no matter what you do about it. I think individuals at least can accelerate that and can play a significant part in the form in which it comes about and certainly this group did exactly that. I don't know whether it makes any sense to speculate on whether somebody would have invented a transistor in another ten or 20 years. The fact is that they did it, it was great, we could use it and I think that's all you need to know.'

9. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #116573 by zendal_darkman on January 26, 2008 at 6:24 pm

The creationists hate our superior (evidence based) position, and are trying to lower it (science) down to that of a religion.

The most obvious example is when they use the term "Darwinians" (etc) (although often its used as a troll).

10. Interview with Richard Dawkins

Comment #116541 by zendal_darkman on January 26, 2008 at 5:52 pm

There are lots and lots of "Johns" out there, all to willing to simply accept all the creationist propaganda thrown at them. He had no understanding of what he was on about, but he simply thought repeating a few tired old lines was enough to "defeat" RD.

Despite his lack of knowledge he was happy to accept as 100% fact that evolution was flawed because of a leaflet or some speaker saying so, and so fully expected RD to be stumped by the points he raised.

11. Ken Ham in Leicester April 2008

Comment #116299 by zendal_darkman on January 26, 2008 at 8:03 am

It wont do us any favors to appear to come mob handed and start campaigns against these meetings.

Simply greeting the audience with a leaflet and a smile is the best way to deal with the "situation".

I would advise that anyone without experience debating creationists, does not even think about debating with any speakers at the meetings.

12. Three Little Pigs 'too offensive'

Comment #115131 by zendal_darkman on January 23, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Last year a school in Yorkshire also censored the story.
All that is achieved by this action is creating needless friction between communities. It fuels extremism on both sides, the BNP will claim it is an example of us "becoming strangers in our own land", and radical muslims will come to see such censorship as their right.

"We have to be sensitive if we want to be multi-cultural. It was felt it would be more responsible not to use the three little pigs," said committee member Gill Goodswen, head teacher of Stile Common Junior School, according to the London paper.

"We feared that some Muslim children wouldn't sing along to the words about pigs."

Goodswen said there was no complaint that prompted the decision, but after the move, Sheik Ibrahim Mogra of the Muslim Council of Britain called it "bizarre."

"The vast majority of Muslims have no problem whatsoever with the 'Three Little Pigs,'" he told the Daily Mail. "It's always been the traditional way of telling the story, and I don't see why that should be changed."

Mogra acknowledged Muslims are forbidden to eat pork, "but there is no prohibition about reading stories about pigs. This is an unnecessary step."

Mogra asked how far society would go.

"Are we going to change the seven dwarves because it's discriminatory towards people who are physically less able? Where do you draw the line?" he asked.

"Every time we get these stories Muslims are seen more and more as misfits. We have to accept there's a predominant culture here."

Town council member Terry Lyons told the London paper the school was "pandering to a few extremists," making it easier for them to recruit.

13. Honour Killings

Comment #114049 by zendal_darkman on January 21, 2008 at 9:23 am

There have been rants posted on forums dating back to 2003 that are consistent with the e-mail.

http://www.myiwc.com/forums/search.php?searchid=63553&pp=25&page=2

14. Honour Killings

Comment #113766 by zendal_darkman on January 20, 2008 at 1:25 pm

I've come across this guy on the forums digitalspy.co.uk where he posted several rants, but never bothered to respond to any replies.

My gut reaction is that he should be ignored, unless it is established he has power or influence.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=189379

Established 1981
London School of Islamics
An Educational Trust
63 Margery Park Road London E7 9LD
Email: info@londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Tel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667

Crime against Humanity

To deprive a Muslim child from his/her culture and language is a crime against Humanity. British education system is guilty of such crime for the last 50 years. The first wave of Muslims arrived with three or four languages including English but the next generation born and educated by native teachers has been subject to learn English in local accents, making them mis-fit not only for the British society at large but also for the whole world. A Muslim is the citizen of this small global village. On top of that they have been discouraged to learn Arabic and Urdu, making them cut off from their cultural roots. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of Urdu literature and poetry. They are unable to have a good communication with their parents and elders. All of them suffer from Identity Crises resulting in mental, emotional and social problems. We have lost three generations and fourth one is in the process of loosing its linguistic, Religious and cultural Identity. Respect and tolerance of different religions, cultures and languages are essential for positive community cohesion.

The solution of all those problems is state funded Muslim schools. Muslim parents should be given educational vouchers so that they could send their children to private Muslim schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools, under the control of Muslim Educational Trusts or Charities. Teacher is a role model. Bilingual Muslim teachers are required to teach bilingual Muslim pupils right from Nursery level.

The first wave of Muslims used English as an economic language and still it is meant for earning bread and butter and not used as a social and emotional language. English could become social and emotional language if Muslims start moving in and around pubs, night clubs and frequently changing partners. This is what the British establishment want them to do in order to become the integral part of the British society. Now Muslim Imams will need to show a basic command of spoken English before being allowed to enter the country to satisfy the spiritual needs of the Muslim community. The Imams from the sub-continent are already well versed in Urdu, Arabic, and Persian on top of their mother tongue, Punjabi, Bengali or Gujrati and other regional languages. Now they have to learn English as an extra burden. Urdu is a social and emotional language of the Muslims from the sub-continent and Arabic is their religious language. They are in a better position to serve the Muslim community in Arabic and Urdu so that they could feel at home in an alien British society.
Iftikhar Ahmad

15. The Pagan Christ

Comment #101972 by zendal_darkman on December 21, 2007 at 10:21 am

Its more like three or four references, but excluding Josephus, they are simply statements of "what Christians believe". The Josephus "evidence" on the other hand is suspicious because until the 4th century Christian writers never mentioned it despite hundreds of documents where they DID quote him.

No reference is found in the dead sea scrolls despite them falling slap bang in the middle of his ministry.

If an important teacher did exist at the time we would expect to find lots of evidence, in fact we would be swamped by it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but on the balance of probabilities, I doubt if a historical Jesus existed, and even if he did, I don't think there would be a single link between him and the Jesus we know through the bible.