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2. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #176868 by Jiten on May 8, 2008 at 7:55 am

Bonzai:

The secular, "multi-cultural" elite,--who are mostly middle class and white,--are often most effective in undermining the genuine liberal causes they claim to uphold. They are worse than the "moderates" by being enablers of Islamic fundamentalism
Excellent analysis.There are some good comments here from Teratornis,Vinelectric,and al-rawandi too.

3. Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust

Comment #176272 by Jiten on May 7, 2008 at 4:24 am

al-rawandi,with your tirade against Chomsky you are missing the point.The point being that his country does things that his fellow countrymen are ignorant of and which he wants to bring to their attention.These 'things' result in the deaths of innocent people the world over.The numbers are always disputed but isn't any number greater than 1 scandalous?Why do these innocent people have to die?
Other countries also do bad things that lead to the deaths of innocent people.He focuses on the US because that's 'his' country.

It makes me so angry that people are killed all over the world through no fault of their own.Shouldn't we try to organize society in a way that everyone can lead fulfilling lives free from terror?Instead of the way it is currently organized?Which is set up for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many.

4. What really goes on at the Large Hadron Collider

Comment #176115 by Jiten on May 6, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Rtambree and Teratornis,

Scientists don't do science for the spin-offs,they do it out of curiosity.

5. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #175515 by Jiten on May 5, 2008 at 2:23 pm

Teratornis:

It is troubling that Sam and the other Horsemen tend to remain silent on the petroleum issue, perhaps because all of them are personally fond of petroleum-fueled jet travel. This is one of the most egregious forms of petroleum addiction, because the product being moved is nothing more than information, and information can travel cheaply in wires resulting in drastically lower donations to Middle Eastern oil barons. In the case of our Horsemen, this lapse is especially troubling because they are among the most intelligent living humans, and thus they are easily intelligent enough to master modern telecommunication technology sufficiently well to move their ideas without moving their bodies.
Well RD?Why do you do it? What Teratornis says makes a lot of sense.Keep plugging away!

6. Truly Bizarre : Indians Throw Babies 50ft From Roof To Thank God.

Comment #174750 by Jiten on May 3, 2008 at 12:09 pm

'kin 'ell ! The things that go on in this world! I wonder what else is happening right now? The most sickening thing is that it is the babies who are having to go through this lunacy; and not the ones who should be,namely the mental virus infected parents.

7. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #174517 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 2:39 pm

D'arcy writes:

Sorry Al, but you just don't get it.
That's what I said too in a previous post.He'll never get it.
BTW al-rawandi, calling you Al is like calling you "the" isn't it?

8. Muslim Rebel Sisters: At Odds With Islam and Each Other

Comment #174461 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 1:01 pm

Christopher Davis:

I'm lost. Are you saying that there were other causes besides Islam, or are you ridiculing Ali's statement?
I'm saying the former.You have proximal causes and distal causes.I definitely agree that Islam is a proximal cause of these atrocities.It gets more complicated when we consider the distal causes,ie not the immediate causes.I mean why did they target the US? Why not New Zealand or Belgium?There's got to be other factors contributing to the mix of causes.
In such a complicated a thing as human interaction don't you think it makes more sense to look for a multi-causal explanation rather than a mono-causal explanation?

9. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #174446 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Comment #174289 by Diacanu on May 2, 2008 at 2:25 am

Diacanu,have you ever told anyone else to STFU? Why him? Is it the messenger or the message that you don't like?

10. Was the new finger a 'natural' miracle?

Comment #174387 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 11:01 am

Whatever the explanation turns out to be it will not be supernatural.

11. Muslim Rebel Sisters: At Odds With Islam and Each Other

Comment #174386 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 10:57 am

About the 9/11 attacks, she declared: "This is Islam," and "not just Islam, this was the core of Islam."
Such an ill-considered and ignorant thing to say.I'm not entirely surprised from a right-wing 'thinker'.It was Islam but not just Islam.

12. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #174359 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 9:37 am

al-rawandi:

The worst of the worst of these "just missed the 60's" crowd come here and post their communist drivel, constantly referring to some metaphysical, eutopian reality, where sunshine and raimbows shine down on the overall clad proletariat.
This is just pointless point scoring.I'm not going to go on and on here trying to persuade you that you've got it all wrong.Even your charaterisation of those who want dignity and justice for all humans is a parody.What is worse is that it is a parody based on ignorance.Nothing seems to be going in.None are so blind as those who can't see what is right in front of them.

As for keith,don't be surprised to learn that he may be more sympathetic to the left that you think,although I'll let him speak for himself-something he's supremely good at.

13. Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust

Comment #174339 by Jiten on May 2, 2008 at 7:46 am

al-rawandi:

I don't understand it. These Chomskian ideologues are incapable of doing anything but flogging their own collective backs. They can't bring themselves to even admit that Islam is a violent ideology, they can only blame the WTO and World Bank for 9/11 (despite the fact Bin Laden doesn't really talk about these two).
Name calling doesn't win arguments.Evidence does.Islam is a violent ideology but not every muslim is violent as you yourself know some muslims who have never beaten their wives.People cherry pick their holy books.500 years ago you could've said Christianity was a violent ideology,what with the witch burnings and the Inquisition and the Crusades.But look at it now.
Islam is not the cause of terrorism but a contributory factor.Look at the US.It is not Islamic yet is a major terrorist state.What is the cause of this terrorism?A question rarely asked.Only answers to the other guy's terrorism are sought.

14. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #174097 by Jiten on May 1, 2008 at 3:52 pm

A lot of posts while I've been away! Just got back from a cello and piano recital.

Well,al-rawandi,you attack the cartoon version of socialism.You seem to be obsessed with state-ownership.Why? Why do you think the opposite to capitalism is state-ownership? Firstly think no states at all.The state is an artificial creation and we'll just do away with it.Freedom for people to move around,no borders.After all today Capital freely moves around the world but borders exist only for people.

Secondly,think of a society based on co-operation not competition.

As for motivation or lack of,what about 10,000 years ago for example? Humans are curious animals and they will be and are motivated by curiosity."Let's see what happens if I do this.."

What we're talking about is a complete revolution in how society is arranged not a modification or tinkering with the current world system.Chavez,Castro are just tinkerers.They do not represent a just society.

15. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #173637 by Jiten on May 1, 2008 at 2:38 am

al-rawandi in post 184:

I have read Chomsky
And yet you remain unconvinced,despite the wealth of evidence he has gathered to back up his assertions?This is like a theist reading TGD and come away unconvinced despite the watertight arguments in it.As Dawkins has remarked all theists are atheists when it comes to other gods and some of us have just gone one god further.Well it seems to me that some here need to go one DELUSION further.The Capitalist delusion.This is no way to organise a fair,just society.

16. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #173228 by Jiten on April 30, 2008 at 2:23 pm

I think al-rawandi needs to read Chomsky.He simply doesn't get the excellent posts by Bonzai and D'arcy.

17. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #172432 by Jiten on April 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm

I have something in common with Einstein: I need help with maths too.

18. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #172423 by Jiten on April 29, 2008 at 2:43 pm

Einstein had major insights into physics, but had to get help with the math
What are you doing using the word 'math"? You're not American.

19. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #172399 by Jiten on April 29, 2008 at 2:19 pm

People often confuse what went on in the old Soviet bloc with what Marx wrote.So they reject Marx because they reject "communism".There are many myths associated with socialism.For example "command economy".Well what do you call the economy when nations go to war?The war economy?Is that not a command economy?

Dawkins would do well if he paid more attention to Chomsky.Then he wouldn't appear so nice in person and could be the same as he is in print;there wouldn't be two Dawkinses then.

20. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #172338 by Jiten on April 29, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Enlightenme Where there no inventors or risk takers before capitalism?

21. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #172317 by Jiten on April 29, 2008 at 1:17 pm

No one ever mentions the elephant in the room.Imagine no religion?Yes,OK,good.But:
Imagine no injustice
Imagine no wage slavery
Imagine no exploitation
Imagine no hunger in a world of plenty
Imagine,there's so much inequality in access to clean water,medicine.
Imagine no CAPITALISM.

22. Gods and earthlings

Comment #163413 by Jiten on April 18, 2008 at 10:16 am

When will the IDiots get it through their thick heads?RD can write articles like this till the cows come home and they still will carry on as before.I guess they're not interested in the truth,only in keeping the truth from the ignorant masses.

Their power will only wane when we educate and make science-literate the masses.

23. Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss

Comment #161713 by Jiten on April 15, 2008 at 2:20 pm

Bonzai You hero worship Feynman yet you constantly,tiresomly rebuke us for being Dawkins fans.You are obviously a very intelligent guy yet don't you see the hipocracy in this?Looks like what's good for the goose is good for the gander too.

24. Richard Dawkins' secular army must be stopped. God is behind some of our greatest art

Comment #160355 by Jiten on April 14, 2008 at 1:40 am

I agree strongly with what Skid said.This article is a third rate piece of crap.Just like many before it from the Guardian.What's with the Guardian?Are they deliberately out to stir things up?How can such a piss poor article get past the Editor?

26. The simple falsehood at the heart of Expelled

Comment #158457 by Jiten on April 10, 2008 at 2:44 pm

Diacanu Eugenics after all is just Artificial Selection applied to humans.We have been artificially selecting farm animals,pets and crops since we stopped being hunter-gatherers.So where is the "law of unintended consequences"here?The only thing different is the we can speed up artificial selection through gene manipulation.

27. The simple falsehood at the heart of Expelled

Comment #158427 by Jiten on April 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm

harrylippy writes:

we don't engage in eugenics because it is morally wrong to do so.
I don't think so.Morality is to do with harm done to others.Who would be harmed if we for example bred for higher intelligence in a baby by genetic manipulation(if we had the technology)?No,we don't engage in eugenics because we don't have the technology yet.Just wait till we do.
As Dawkins himself has asked somewhere,what is the difference between practicing 8 hours a day to be a good concert pianist and genetically modifying for musical ability?(Dawkins might have used another example,and put it better than me!)

28. Richard Dawkins: 'Growth in creationist beliefs a problem for schools'

Comment #157127 by Jiten on April 8, 2008 at 3:10 pm

Yes Bonzai science and technology are not the same thing but modern technology wouldn't be possible without a deep understanding of how the world works brought by science.

29. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #157114 by Jiten on April 8, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Just watched the Intro so far and a lavish intro for Richard but none for Paula.I still don't know WHO she is.(I of course know her from her contributions here.)Maybe it has been mentioned already in some other thread of which I'm unaware.

30. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #156964 by Jiten on April 8, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Richard hardly got a word in.Why invite a distinguished guest and then waste him by not using him more?Even that empty-head Miriam spoke more!

"Of course the devil exists, how can you explain Hitler and the Holocaust"... that's the kind of "reasoning" I would expect from and accept in a 3-year-old child!

Actually 3-year-olds cannot reason.3-years-olds are lovely,lively,full of curiosity little humans and there is no reason to denigrate them just to point out the stupidity of adult humans.Just say it straight.Some adult humans are just incredibly stupid.

31. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155451 by Jiten on April 4, 2008 at 2:00 pm

I am sure you mean the Sun.

No.He does mean the core.The molten mantle that drives plate tectonics etc.

32. Happy Birthday, Richard Dawkins!

Comment #149875 by Jiten on March 26, 2008 at 10:10 am

Happy Birthday Richard!!(A bit uneasy about calling you that.)I hope you're having a brilliant day!

33. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #148853 by Jiten on March 24, 2008 at 4:31 am

Comment #148845 by Steve Zara on March 24, 2008 at 3:26 am

I really like your reply to bibanu.

34. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #148844 by Jiten on March 24, 2008 at 3:26 am

What a brilliantly excoriating piece from RD.The biggest irony is the fact that these people behave in such an UNCHRISTIAN manner! Where are their morals? Ha ha ha!!

35. John Templeton: God's sugar daddy

Comment #148664 by Jiten on March 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Templeton's money sullies science.I'd be uneasy accepting grant money from them.

36. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #148243 by Jiten on March 22, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Why o why do these cretins feel the need to attack Darwinian Natural Selection?After all scientists like Francis Collins manage to blithely carry on believing in Jesus whilst accepting the overwhelming evidence for Natural Selection.Francis Collins and other Christian scientists must be seriously embarrassed by having these half-brained cretinous IDiots on the same side as themselves.

40. EXPELLED!

Comment #147642 by Jiten on March 21, 2008 at 3:43 am

Ha ha ha!! What dorks those IDiots are! It's like airport security stopping a pen-knife getting through but allowing an AK47 to go right past!!

In no way do I want this to mean disrespect for PZ Myers,a true champion for science.

41. The Secular Conscience

Comment #146936 by Jiten on March 19, 2008 at 3:06 pm

This book is meaningless after Nietzsche.

Knee Che can be safely ignored.

42. New Atheists Are Not Great

Comment #145480 by Jiten on March 17, 2008 at 4:24 pm

D'Souza is a deeply disgusting dispicable dunderhead.He is a dunce,a douchebag,a dickhead.But insults will just not get him.We have to ridicule him,to laugh at him.

44. I don't believe in atheists

Comment #144267 by Jiten on March 15, 2008 at 2:08 pm

ungodlystheist You're back with your usual excellent posts after a long haitus.But please,please take care with your spelling.Reading is a pleasure spoilt by careless spelling.I guess even your moniker is a mis-spelling.

45. Fleabytes

Comment #142916 by Jiten on March 13, 2008 at 7:42 am

Well, on my way home from work yesterday

I'm amazed if you get any work done at all!

47. Fleabytes

Comment #142024 by Jiten on March 11, 2008 at 3:53 pm

what do you guys do with your spare time?
I go to concerts,take my niece out to museums,read books,go swimming,sleep,and do housework.I only occasionally have a beer.Not really bothered about alcohol.A pint is the most I can drink.It's the volume,see.I just can't take all that liquid.My stomach gets full.

48. Fleabytes

Comment #142022 by Jiten on March 11, 2008 at 3:40 pm

keith good to see you're back.I'm looking forward to more of your erudite posts.

49. Seven new deadly sins: are you guilty?

Comment #142021 by Jiten on March 11, 2008 at 3:36 pm

Teratornisyour posts above are excellent.I always appreciate all your posts.Keep up the good work!

Great post Russell Blackford.I enjoy all your posts too.

50. Fleabytes

Comment #137656 by Jiten on March 3, 2008 at 9:59 am

Billysands

Don't you mean "Not to be a total pedant"?