1. Bush Bureaucrats at Dept. of Health and Human Services Redefine Contraception as Abortion

Comment #213296 by huzonfurst on July 18, 2008 at 11:21 am

Apathy personified (comment #213042), when referring to the imaginary deity the multipronoun s/he/it rolls off the tongue with a certain flair, don't you think?

As for bombing the Vatican, that would be discriminatory. To avoid any such accusations both Jerusalem and Mecca must be included at the same time. I propose three neutron bombs to be set off simultaneously after a 24-hour notice to the populace.

This way those with any sense will leave, the architecture will be preserved, and only religious nutters will return in pilgrimage to their various ground zeroes too soon to avoid radiation poisoning.

2. Bush Bureaucrats at Dept. of Health and Human Services Redefine Contraception as Abortion

Comment #213017 by huzonfurst on July 18, 2008 at 2:32 am

I hereby nominate George Bush for the Sphincter of the Century award.

3. VOICES OF SCIENCE - Available Now on DVD

Comment #212318 by huzonfurst on July 17, 2008 at 2:31 am

Utsusemia, please refrain from the p/c hand-wringing. The people on this board are far beyond that, and to have you even mention such a possibility is insulting to us and demeaning to yourself.

And so what if, to assume your inaccurate suspicions for a moment, all the greatest scientists happened to be white males? Do you propose some kind of affirmative action to throw in a few not-so-great scientists just so you can feel better?

Back to the sixties with you, then - and stay there!

4. MnIndy interview: Unrepentant science-heathen PZ Myers still intends to prove 'this cracker is nothing'

Comment #212152 by huzonfurst on July 16, 2008 at 5:25 pm

MPhil: My comment stems from a serious lack of patience, actually. If philosophy has something worthwhile to say it should be able to say it without demanding several years of brain-numbing study on the part of the average person.

Some things do require years of study, of course, physics and chemistry for example. But when you study these progress is relatively easy to measure, whereas with pholosophy there is so much disagreement and arcane language that you have no idea whether the tree you're barking up is worth a rat's ass in the first place (or is it a tree? what exactly *is* a tree? and so on ad nauseam).

Methinks philosophy has always had a bad case of physics envy, and its close relationship to sophism is no accident.

I don't really object to it, having read a few of the biggies myself, which is more than most people have ever done. I object to the barely-concealed pomposity of many of its practitioners, who give me headaches much the same as I get whenever a series of unfortunate events leads to me having to sit through another gaggingly pretentious movie by Fellini or any of those other neo-realist posers (and they're just as bad in the original tongue, by the way).

But that's just my opinion.

5. Anti-Darwinists turned away by Israeli academia

Comment #212141 by huzonfurst on July 16, 2008 at 5:04 pm

Perfect! Add "religious scholar" to the dictionary of oxymorons.

6. MnIndy interview: Unrepentant science-heathen PZ Myers still intends to prove 'this cracker is nothing'

Comment #211929 by huzonfurst on July 16, 2008 at 11:59 am

MPhil and Steve: If philosophy would stick to logic I would have no problem with it, but it can't resist inventing universes full of non sequiturs supposedly stemming from fundamental axioms.

As one with scientific training, my take on philosophy is that it is mostly word-play where the participants enjoy trying to one-up each other rather than figure out something useful (which includes but is not limited to being utilitarian). We are trained to get the job done rather than waste hours and days arguing with semantic gymnasts over "What do you mean when you say what does it mean?" Arrgh!

7. The Return of Religion

Comment #211916 by huzonfurst on July 16, 2008 at 11:48 am

Wow, what sheer crap. I hope that magazine gets a flood of protest mail - and prints it.

As for shouting "because we know our position is weak," who hasn't ever become so frustrated with the willful stupidity of the typical believer that s/he *needs* to either scream or explode?!

8. MnIndy interview: Unrepentant science-heathen PZ Myers still intends to prove 'this cracker is nothing'

Comment #211900 by huzonfurst on July 16, 2008 at 11:34 am

Anyone who thinks that real knowledge can be generated by mere philosophy is fooling themselves. Philosophy can be valuable, but it is *not* a science and never will be. A little humility is in order here.

Anyway, Go PZ!! I can't wait to see what he does to those poor crackers (oops, nothing against a certain socioeconomic group). Maybe it will finally give Bill Donohue that myocardial infarction he always seems on the verge of having, and this whole comedy will have a happy ending.

9. Degrees of religion

Comment #210513 by huzonfurst on July 14, 2008 at 6:05 pm

Bonzai - is that Japanese for PC Police?

Remember Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues," and the line where the Weathermen (yeah, I know: *and* women) got their name? All it needs is one little change to get the atheist message across:

"You don't need a weatherman to know that all religion blows."

While I'm at it, wouldn't it have been nice if Pink Floyd had actually sung "Hey! Preacher! Leave those kids alone"?

10. The Politics of God

Comment #210501 by huzonfurst on July 14, 2008 at 5:37 pm

Yikes, these philosophical blizzards are making my head spin. Are all these words really necessary? What is wrong with simply saying "Religion is a tapestry of delusion, and those who still believe are fooling themselves" and get down to the important stuff like figuring out how to defend civilization against the barbarians?

11. Scientists discover way to reverse loss of memory

Comment #209940 by huzonfurst on July 13, 2008 at 3:11 pm

Now if only they can figure out a way to zap superstition while they're at it...

12. Man Sues Church Over 'God Injury'

Comment #209937 by huzonfurst on July 13, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Sorry, but this has to be said:

Babrock, stop using 't' for 'the.' It's irritating and you come off like a clueless teenager trying - and failing - to be cool.

13. An Irishman's Diary

Comment #209476 by huzonfurst on July 12, 2008 at 11:52 am

Existentialism, but I knew that.

14. IT'S A GODDAMNED CRACKER!

Comment #206905 by huzonfurst on July 9, 2008 at 12:57 am

Oh man, it's only five days until Sunday!

15. Degrees of religion

Comment #206320 by huzonfurst on July 8, 2008 at 9:17 am

I don't think this woman deserves all the criticism she's getting here. I myself am an anti-theist as well as an atheist and realize that religion is a sad and dangerous relic from the past, but I also realize that most people can't simply decide to be rational no matter how strongly they are pulled in that direction.

The author has been a Muslim her whole life and walking away from it has to be very difficult. How many of us would leave behind most of our lives no matter how much proof there might be that it was all a lie? Imagine finding out that there really was a supernatural world after all and you might appreciate the struggle she is going through.

Rather than attack her over a few details and demand perfect consistency we should be supporting and welcoming her! We all fall short of the glory of atheism now and then.

16. Teaching Evolution in Mexico: Preaching to the Choir

Comment #205690 by huzonfurst on July 7, 2008 at 4:48 pm

How to deal with door-to-door proselytisers, by Bob Heinlein:

"I hardly ever answer the door naked, unless I notice the people knocking are Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons. Then I drop my shorts, light a cigar, grab a drink, fling open the door and say 'Welcome, Brothers, you're just in time for the orgy! Care for some whiskey and cigarettes?'"

17. Religion's role in the climate debate

Comment #205683 by huzonfurst on July 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm

I think some of you are being a little too precious about being "offended" by them calling Dawkins a high priest of atheism. That's something I expect from Muslims, for chrissake! Besides, it's a catchy phrase which resonates with a lot of people - subject to misinterpretation, but what isn't with most of the populace? I wouldn't use it but I find it more amusing than offensive.

As for these global warming "skeptics," what they are engaging in is skepticism for its own sake. It makes them feel important even though they're comparing shit to Shinola. Someone please tell them that if one person says 2 plus 2=4 and another that 2 plus 2=5 the truth is *not* somewhere in the middle!

(Had to write out "plus" because this weird message board wouldn't display the symbol - what's up with that, Josh?).

18. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204711 by huzonfurst on July 5, 2008 at 3:03 pm

huzonfurst, would you consider testing on the content of the Christian Lords prayer for RE purposes to be an affront to British secular politics?

Straw man, Beno. The incident in question involved a physical exercise which should not have been forced on any student.

Or maybe not a straw man, if you look at it the way I do, as any religious *instruction* is inappropriate in a public school. Requiring the memorization of any creed crosses the line, in my opinion.

The great teapot asked why do public schools bother with religion at all, since they don't bother with other equally absurd superstitions like astrology.

19. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204628 by huzonfurst on July 5, 2008 at 11:49 am

Benocrates, I am saying that letting anything that smacks of religious coercion slide is the equivalent of pounding nails into our own coffins. This doesn't mean I think any one incident will lead to another Dark Age, but it does mean that I prefer to err on the side of caution, exposing every possible threat to the light of day and *not* letting it pass!

"All that's needed for evil to triumph is for good men (*and* women, as in Life of Brian) to do nothing" and all that.

20. Prayer refusal pupils 'disciplined'

Comment #204603 by huzonfurst on July 5, 2008 at 10:47 am

Zara, I find your comment much too accomodating. If it turns into a positive thing it will be because what the teacher did is recognized to be as outrageous as it is.

By now I must freely admit to a strong anti-Islam bias, which is an eminently rational position to take based on its record. What would you do, wait until sharia is imposed on all of Britain "just to be sure" Islam really is that bad?

Same to you, Benocrates. Haven't you ever heard the expression "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile?"

21. Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Comment #204269 by huzonfurst on July 4, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Please, not all liberals are politically-correct, multi-cultural hand-wringers. I'm a "liberal" and I *despise* this naïve, defective take on things.

I think a lot of it is based on the received, unthinking respect for religion. Hand-wringers know how easy it is to inadvertantly insult almost any religious belief, so rather than realize that perhaps this is because religious beliefs are inherently idiotic and don't deserve respect they take exactly the wrong approach and assume something must be wrong with their own culture instead of the foreign one (not that any culture is perfect), no matter how glaringly stupid and inhumane the foreign one might be.

This allows them to feel superior to their own countrypersons (ha!) and also saves them from having to make actual value judgments which would result in someone, somewhere inevitably calling them "racist," the worst thing in the universe to a hand-wringer - worse than ignoring the gruesome facts about FGM, beheadings, amputations, beatings, child rape and on and on.

These people should be made to watch about 12 hours of video with examples of all of the above in living (and dying) color and stereo sound for the full experience (with no vomit bags so that the theater would gradually fill with an odor to match their cloying presumptiveness). Maybe then a small percentage might be persuaded that they've gotten it wrong about Islam, and possibly others as well.

22. Muslims outraged at police advert featuring cute puppy sitting in policeman's hat

Comment #203706 by huzonfurst on July 3, 2008 at 12:00 pm

First of all, it is unfair to expect that someone who does not live in the U.K. would know that the Daily Mail is a right-wing rag.

Second of all, even if this story has been exaggerated it has credibility because it is consistent with all the other stories about Muslim thin-skinnedness (is that a word?).

Islam has created its own PR problem by its violent actions around the world (so has George Bush but we'll be rid of him soon) and only Islam can fix it, which it does not seem interested in doing.

The "moderate" Muslims who disagree with their jihadist brothers but don't make the slightest protest must be hanging out with the moderate Xtians in the US who practice deafening silence about those who blow up abortion clinics and murder their doctors "in the name of life."

23. Faith schools undermined by 'Government witch hunt'

Comment #202341 by huzonfurst on July 1, 2008 at 10:53 am

Clodhopper, your avatar is grotesque. What's it supposed to be, anyway?

24. Aliens need Christ's redemption, too

Comment #201912 by huzonfurst on June 30, 2008 at 11:59 am

This article should go into psychology textbooks as a magnificent example of verbal diarrhea.

Besides, all his questions about preaching to aliens were answered in the South Park episode called Starvin' Marvin in Space (or something like that), where missionaries raced to evangelize the Marklar. The frequent cuts to Pat Robertson asking for billions to pay for the latest hyperspace drive were priceless.

25. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #198971 by huzonfurst on June 24, 2008 at 11:04 pm

Right on, Quomak. It's total BS to demand that one's critics become experts in the superstition at hand before they can form a reasonable opinion of it. I've had a number of newagers insist that I read all their UFO books before I dare say that they're full of it. Like RD said, you don't need a PhD in fairies to disbelieve in them!

26. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.

Comment #198745 by huzonfurst on June 24, 2008 at 12:30 pm

"The Prophet is our model." - Islam

"Moe is their leader." - Homer Simpson, expounding upon the Three Stooges.

27. Teen's death blamed on faith healing

Comment #198304 by huzonfurst on June 23, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Outrages like this make a strong case for vigilante justice. Whenever governments become ineffective the people eventually take the law into their own hands out of sheer necessity (the fact that these groups easily turn into criminal gangs themselves does not negate the initial need for them).

A mass necktie party for every "adult" member of this death cult would certainly get people's attention, possibly even to the point of doing something about this crap! Meanwhile, of course, Oprah will be "praying for their souls..."

I had the nauseating experience of being present at a debate between lawyers for CHILD (Children's Healthcare Is a Legal Duty) and those for the Christian Scientists, and was sickened by the sneering, smug attitude of the civilized-appearing but downright *evil* apologists for faith-killing.

These assholes had placed religious exemptions for faith-killers in every single state and were worried that they were getting overturned in a very few of them thanks to years-long efforts by truly dedicated people. One way to help would be to contact this organization and volunteer some time or money, as I did several years ago.

CHILD was founded by Rita Swan, a former xtian scientist who was pressured into praying her own child to death and left the church as a result:

www.childrenshealthcare.org

The kid we're discussing here is already on their website.

Reply to al-raw: No need to use bullets; ropes are recyclable and they cause more well-deserved suffering if applied correctly.

28. Where do US lawmakers stand on science?

Comment #198224 by huzonfurst on June 23, 2008 at 11:54 am

My grandfather was an engineer. He drove a train.

29. On this Day: Galileo Sentenced for Believing Sun Is Center of Universe

Comment #198222 by huzonfurst on June 23, 2008 at 11:49 am

Galileo knew what he was doing. In his Dialogue, the defender of the Church's position was named Simplicio and made to sound that way.

30. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview

Comment #198213 by huzonfurst on June 23, 2008 at 11:38 am

In memory of George Carlin:

PISS ON ISLAM!!

I WIPE MY ASS WITH THE KORAN -- AFTER I USE IT FOR TARGET PRACTICE!!!

31. Christianity 'could die out within a century'

Comment #197371 by huzonfurst on June 21, 2008 at 10:40 pm

I'd love to believe this, but everyone thought religion would die out at the end of the 19th century too. That ghost meme is a tough mother!

32. Should Strident British Atheist Richard Dawkins Dictate Education Policy to US States? Barbara Forrest Apparently Thinks So

Comment #197033 by huzonfurst on June 21, 2008 at 12:39 am

How come these "equal time" crusaders never offer to have evolution taught in Sunday school?

Could it be they're lying hypocrites...?

33. Rapture site sends unbelievers their last chance ... via email

Comment #194760 by huzonfurst on June 17, 2008 at 8:40 am

Why didn't I think of this?? Oh well, back to churning out tortillas with Jesus on them...

34. Breaking the Silence

Comment #194303 by huzonfurst on June 16, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Zoltix,

Not all leftists are poltically-correct, multi-cultural hand-wringers, as you imply. I myself am extremely left-wing but for *rational* reasons and have never supported the kind of knee-jerk nonsense that you mention (how's that for a hyphenated response?).

I used to get upset when people called me "racist" for being against illegal immigration or Islam, now I laugh in their clueless faces. They don't get someone who puts George Bush in the same category as Usama bin Laden and hates both of them equally.

35. From Big Bang to Us - Made Easy

Comment #192826 by huzonfurst on June 14, 2008 at 2:41 am

Not only should these videos be shown in every school in the world, fundamentalists of every faith ought to be forced to watch them - a la Clockwork Orange with their eyelids held open - until they get it!

To those who wish to "spare the feelings" of believers, it's time to show these cretins the same regard they've shown for atheists throughout history (short of burning them alive perhaps).

Religion can't be stomped out of existence soon enough for me.

36. Court Claim: Chimps Are People, Too

Comment #192016 by huzonfurst on June 12, 2008 at 10:09 am

Why limit rights only to animals we think of as "sentient"? Any creature that is capable of suffering ought to have some enforceable rights against maltreatment.

Western countries do have some laws against animal cruelty but they don't go nearly far enough, in my opinion, and not all Western countries are equally diligent about it (there's something about Latin culture which approves of bull/cock/dog-fighting and Dawkins knows what other disgustingly atavistic "entertainments," for example).

Third world countries (and I include Muslim societies in this category) are hopeless as far as their treatment of animals is concerned. Some would excuse this on economics, although how simply being kind to animals requires a certain level of income escapes me.

To change the subject, Doctor Dee's picture of the Far Side's "God as a kid tries to make a chicken in his room" resulted in an islamically surreal response by San Diego's fundies when the (extremely right-wing and pro-christer) paper first published it some 20 years ago: a few days afterwards the paper was flooded with letters squawking "Blasphemy in the Union Tribune!" and telephone poles everywhere were covered with flyers urging good xtians to boycott any company that advertised in the paper...

Btw, jimbob, our current excuse for a president was never actually elected, you know. Not that that excuses the millions of boneheads who did vote for him.

37. Hints of structure beyond the visible universe

Comment #191558 by huzonfurst on June 11, 2008 at 8:16 am

Rebelest, the relative velocities of those two spaceships can never even equal the speed of light, even if they are flying in opposite directions at 99% of c!

But that scenario is about objects moving in space, whereas the inflation of space is thought to have happened at thousands of times light speed (or millions; I don't recall the figure).

38. Kluge: The Haphazard Construction of the Human Mind

Comment #191555 by huzonfurst on June 11, 2008 at 8:04 am

I didn't mean to imply that the English 'kludge' was derived from the German 'klug,' as the meanings are quite different. It's an accidental resemblance; after all, German 'ass' means 'I, s/he/it ate.'

German and English both, however, adopted the Latin adjective 'intellegens/intellegentis' (derived from the present participle of intellegere, 'to understand').

39. God and Science Collide in Nation's Capital

Comment #191433 by huzonfurst on June 11, 2008 at 12:55 am

Ugh - there's that agenda-laden bullshit word "scientism" again. These people are as transparent as cretinists (sic - couldn't help myself) saying "evolutionist" or Republicans saying the "Democrat" party. All bullshit, all the time!

Scientists who have anything to do with the Templetons are sleeping with the enemy, by the way. I saw the Templeton fakes in action at Beyond Belief 2006 and was outraged at their slimy, disingenuous tactics. They were walking examples of physics envy at its most vile, another fifth column no different in its ultimate goals than the waves of Muslim immigrant invaders intent on changing the face of Europe by sheer numbers.

Why waste time and breath on religious wankers? Declare them the enemy and be done with it!

PS to 3legcat from last month: How can anyone "affirm that no gods exist" when there has never even been an unambiguous definition of "god" in the first place?! You are using outsiders' definitions of what they think (or want to think) what atheism means. I don't give a rat's ass what Wikipedia claims is the definition of "strong atheism" and you shouldn't either, if you're serious about the discussion. It's bad enough that religion has given disbelief a negative-sounding name that stuck, but when some atheists themselves roll over and accept a bad definition it's very disheartening.

I rip believers new ones on a regular basis, sometimes gently so they don't realize it until later, and sometimes aggressively if they get in my face about it (these are the ones who can dish it out but can't take it, and they inevitably try to change the subject or freak out and leave). You may be a nonbeliever but you also sound like an appeaser, trying to bring "peace in our time."

And calling Anthony Flew a philosopher is quite a stretch, in my opinion. However, my all-time favorite in the pretentious academic oxymoron department is the vaunted title of "Doctor of Theology" - ROFLMFAO!!

40. Kluge: The Haphazard Construction of the Human Mind

Comment #191377 by huzonfurst on June 10, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Jawohl, 'klug' ist ein deutsches Wort, meaning the same thing as 'intelligent,' another German word.

41. Hints of structure beyond the visible universe

Comment #191215 by huzonfurst on June 10, 2008 at 11:53 am

I have a Bachelor's degree in astronomy and physics and still think the concept of faster-than-light inflation of space is absurdly ad hoc, considering the leap of 'faith' it takes that such a thing is even possible. Apparently it's the only way to get from the early Big Bang to the present universe, but what the theorists really mean is "it's the only way we can think of so far." It was still called the inflationary *hypothesis* the last time I looked.

Einstein never fully accepted quantum physics and I've never fully accepted inflation. Another example of the essential similarity of our thought processes ;>).

PS: Deepak Chopra is a frickin' idiot!

42. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190786 by huzonfurst on June 9, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Was this secretly written by Alan Sokal?

43. Couple charged in Norway over genital mutilation of daughters

Comment #190319 by huzonfurst on June 8, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Ramzid, the fear of malevolent Islamic influence on Western cultures is hardly unreasonable. In fact it is a very rational fear, based upon recent history and flat-out statements by more than a few Muslims - make that thousands if not millions - that they want to destroy the West.

The solution is simple: ignore politically-correct tripe of the kind you are spouting (implying racism at every turn) and put severe restrictions on immigration - including mandatory assimilation with deportation if it is not accomplished. And if it comes to internment camps - although I never, ever thought I'd be saying this - so be it. I'm sick of hearing threats from this INFERIOR culture and I'm willing to fight back, no matter what racial group they happen to belong to!

44. Albinos, Long Shunned, Face Threat in Tanzania

Comment #190074 by huzonfurst on June 8, 2008 at 10:24 am

"But that's not real witchcraft. It's the work of con men."

Oy gewalt!

45. Male circumcision is a weapon in the sperm wars

Comment #189922 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 4:42 pm

Ack! Appleby, why did you have to say "swallow" in reference to this article? Eeww..

RedPen, how is circumcision not a form of genital mutilation?! I resent having it done to me since it supposedly reduces sensitivity, although I can hardly imagine how it could be more sensitive than it is. It's the idea of carving up one's own children when they have no ability to protest that is absolutely abhorrent to anyone with a conscience.

It's also a good question to ask of a Jew or Muslim when they're defending their different lunacies: why is it okay to mutilate one of God's perfect little creations in the first place?

46. Faith no more as World Youth Day fans flames of disbelief

Comment #189921 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 4:37 pm

FF, I have never heard anyone say that removing churches' tax exemptions would make them *more* of a problem! That strikes me as unconvincing, to say the least. Tax exemptions allow these undeserving schmucks a free ride at everyone else's expense and gives them more influence than they would have otherwise. With no tax exemptions half the churches would go out of business in short order, and good riddance to the lot of them.

Cartomancer, I'm an exception to your proposed atheist generation gap, that is if this gap is real which I doubt. I turned 60 this year and am more of a flaming anti-theist than ever. I've become notorious among my business clients, believe it or not, for being the most outspoken atheist they've ever met. However, they already know what I can do for them and their computers so they will actually listen to me as long as I don't overdo it. I've turned them on to several videos from this site, and it's been gratifying to see a light go on when they hear an argument that's never occured to them before. Doing my part to encourage the death of religion once and for all.

47. Faith no more as World Youth Day fans flames of disbelief

Comment #189848 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 11:07 am

Fighting Falcon, I used to agree with tolerating the private practice of religion, but I got over it. A person's beliefs don't leave him when he walks out of church: they influence everything s/he does in all walks of life.

We have such a long way to go in the US to counteract religious foolishness that we still legally allow believers to commit crimes in the name of their religion - the ones who withhold medical treatment from their own children being the worst example.

This kind of valueless tolerance is wrong and immoral, or do you disagree, and why?

I'm firmly in Dawkins' corner, the part where he states that religion must be challenged at every turn, with the eventual goal of still allowing it to exist (sigh) but reducing its status to just another bit of brainless nonsense like astrology and other newage excreta.

48. Faith no more as World Youth Day fans flames of disbelief

Comment #189831 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 10:44 am

Who says atheists don't want to eradicate religion? Of course we do, just not by mass murder or other coercive means. Removing tax advantages for churches is one, non-coercive step that is long overdue (and after that, perhaps the imposition of an "ignorance tax" to compensate society for the effects of religious "education" and indoctrination).

49. A word for nonbelievers

Comment #189824 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 10:33 am

I thought I had a billboard approved with a "humanist" group here in San Diego several years ago with the message "The Winter Solstice is the REAL Reason for the Season" - complete with a simple diagram of Earth's orbit and axial tilt - but as it turned out this particular group was infested with crooks (and quite possibly spies intent on causing damage) who absconded with the money, so it never happened.

A San Diego suburb is the home of the Institute for Creation Research, an indication of what we're up against in this corner of the Buybullverse. I still think it's a good way to counter these obnoxious "Jesus is the Reason" billboards that show up every year, though.

Now is the time for someone out there to give this another try. I went as far as getting a nonprofit rate for six billboards around town before the money was "redirected" by the dirtbags in our midst.

50. Reality wins in Texas!

Comment #189807 by huzonfurst on June 7, 2008 at 10:13 am

Hallelujah, Brother!