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Comments by JernJane


2. Common New Atheist Fallacies

Comment #201253 by JernJane on June 29, 2008 at 1:44 pm

The question remains: "Where is the evidence"

Oh and on Hitchens: A Christian calling anyone abusive is throwing rocks, completely oblivious of the glass house in which he is sitting.

3. John McCain: America a Christian nation, needs Christian president

Comment #190392 by JernJane on June 9, 2008 at 2:28 am

This idea that "America was founded primarily on Judeo-Christian principles," is such a dangerous and vicious lie.

4. Couple charged in Norway over genital mutilation of daughters

Comment #190388 by JernJane on June 9, 2008 at 2:25 am

What do you expect, Norway, when you have an immigration policy of allowing people with a twelfth century mindset concerning the treatment of women to be welcomed into your country? Islam is not compatible with a modern liberal Western democracy. Take off the politically correct lenses and see things for how they really are.


As a Norwegian I can tell you that if you think the average Norwegian is so naïve as to being blind with regards to Islam, you're dead wrong. The reason why we have the immigration policies that we do is because of naïve left-wing politicians who are elected because they don't state that "being friends and holding hands with Islam" is part of their political programme. They know that Norwegians are more concerned with school quality, care for the elders, tax rates and so forth and get elected on that.

On top of that, certain immigration-related politicians have also been revealed as corrupt. So don't give us the "What do you expect, >Norway<", but rather "What do you expect, Norwegian politicians". The public knows better than the politicians in this country. It's just too bad that our politicians are as dishonest a bunch of bastards here as anywhere else.

To be honest I am happy that these people have been charged. At least something is happening about it now. That's better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.

6. Top 6 Incestuous Relationships In The Bible

Comment #185346 by JernJane on May 27, 2008 at 2:50 pm

How can the pious Christians defend this sick, twisted behaviour???


They don't. They know very well that it's wrong. Just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean Christians think that it's right.

7. Five Things Humans No Longer Need

Comment #184015 by JernJane on May 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm

I like having goose bumps, especially when listening to beautiful music! I'm glad I was born before we lost the gorgeous, tickling sensation :D

10. Richard Dawkins Responds to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Comment #181384 by JernJane on May 17, 2008 at 5:13 am

Are we still on this for crying out loud?


Although I agree that this is a storm in a teapot/-cup/-whatever, I think it's the sort of *ahem* "dialogue" there's pressure on you to finish once it's started. Imagine how bloody provoking it must be to have your name attempted smeared so undeservedly and in such an unworthy manner.

Well-written reply, Richard! I hope Boteach now will have the sense to let the arguement die.

11. Richard Dawkins Interview on TVOntario

Comment #181095 by JernJane on May 16, 2008 at 12:22 pm

Atheists *are* persecuted in America. I walked out to my car this morning to find that someone had broken both of my side mirrors. Not the first act of vandalism, either.


I wish we could just live together, peacefully, like human beings. Not that we have a rich history of doing so, but still. I admire your courage, Mango.

12. Richard Dawkins discusses Einstein's new letters

Comment #179981 by JernJane on May 14, 2008 at 4:09 am

I want to slap Einstein for being so damned poetic. Now we have to clean up his mess. :P

(Yes, I'm joking.)

13. The New Atheist Movement

Comment #179662 by JernJane on May 13, 2008 at 1:38 pm

On the surface, the point about daring Sam Harris to speak his mind in Saudi-Arabia, is a decent point.

Except... it's not because of Christianity or Judaism that we are closer to free speech in the western world. It is, however, Islam's work that there is no such thing in Saudi-Arabia.

14. 3QD interviews Richard Dawkins

Comment #178778 by JernJane on May 12, 2008 at 3:05 am

Except for the moving of the camera, this was a very interesting interview - a proper conversation instead of "I ask you a stupid question, you repeat your answer from the last interview where you were asked this question".

15. Evolution: What is 'Natural'?

Comment #178443 by JernJane on May 11, 2008 at 12:32 pm

"I'm a passionate Darwinian in the academic sense (...), yet I am a passionate Anti-Darwinian when it comes to human social and political affairs."

This is what I see lying, illogical IDiots as attacking the most, in order to portray Dawkins as a hypocrite.


Well, some people just love to misinterpret on purpose.

16. Evolution: What is 'Natural'?

Comment #178406 by JernJane on May 11, 2008 at 11:07 am

Time to add this to my general list of memorable quotes, I think:

"I'm a passionate Darwinian in the academic sense (...), yet I am a passionate Anti-Darwinian when it comes to human social and political affairs."

17. Was the new finger a 'natural' miracle?

Comment #178287 by JernJane on May 11, 2008 at 5:03 am

Oh for heavens' sake... I can see it coming already:

Pixie dust availible in your local shop NOW!!!

- miraculous growth and regrowth of limbs!
(Competition for Viagra?)
- sparkly appearance
(It must be God's work!)

18. Beware the Believers

Comment #178285 by JernJane on May 11, 2008 at 4:52 am

I'm sure it must be an age thing. I feel the same way about South Park (though not the Simpsons, which I find witty and highly perceptive about modern life).


I often get the impression that South Park tries too hard and thus ruin their own jokes.

If you liked the Simpsons though, I would recommend Futurama (also created by Matt Groening). Although the scientist in the series is the mad cartoonish stereotype (which I understand you don't especially approve of), you might want to catch an episode of it if you get the chance.

JJ

22. Atheists are nice people who will roast in hell, says Cardinal

Comment #178006 by JernJane on May 10, 2008 at 8:21 am

I am sorry for being a pedantic cow - yet again, but:

"Britain's biggest catholic"

Oh really? :D

23. Fleas on the Horizon: In Defense of God

Comment #177548 by JernJane on May 9, 2008 at 9:27 am

Someone should write a work of apologetics for Tor and Odin (Thor and Wotan/Woden) as a charicature of Christian apologetic theology.

Hell I might even do it myself.

24. Flea of the week

Comment #177547 by JernJane on May 9, 2008 at 9:25 am

I wonder if I could milk this cow just a bit more by writing a book solely about the internal contradictions of the Bible.

I wonder, should the title include the word "delusion"? :P

25. My Response to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Comment #177492 by JernJane on May 9, 2008 at 7:20 am

Though I think the Hitler reference was unnecessary for Dawkins to prove a point, I do understand what Dawkins means by the "shrieking like Hitler".

I can't help but wonder though if it was something simply put in there, not calling Boteach Hitler, but simply uttering a simile to his way of presenting his rather unfounded arguments, in order to provoke such a reaction where Boteach indeed makes a storm in a teacup by deliberately misinterpreting Dawkins' statement.

To me this has become a farse, but I don't think that's primarily Dawkins' fault, although he could've been more cautious, but then again:

Isn't Dawkins' refusal to compromise the truth part of why we like him? ;)

26. My Response to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Comment #177409 by JernJane on May 9, 2008 at 3:37 am

He then started mocking me claiming that I am unpatriotic and I think we should have never come here to begin with.


Is it just me, or is calling somebody unpatriotic the standard way, the last breath from a person drowning in the waters of his own lack of reason, for Americans to resort to when they have nothing left to say?

"You're unpatriotic". What a completely and utterly irrelevant and stupid way of trying to get the upper hand in a discussion - by going so low that it's unbelievable.

It's obvious that this man has no idea that a patriot is not somebody who blindly follows the mainstream of the country he's supposed to be such a patriot for, but somebody who fights for what is right and what is good for all its inhabitants.

About this "debate" between Dawkins and Boteach, I find it rather amusing, though tragic at the same time. The amusing part lies in the sheer absurdity of the conversation:

"You shriek like Hitler."
"You called me Hitler!"
"No, I said you shriek like Hitler."

The tragic part lies in the impression I have that these two people who, it seems used to be friends, are now publically arguing.

I have to agree with Clementine below that the mention of Hitler was unnecessary. This whole dispute seems deeply personal to me from both sides, and I think public space and open letters may not be the best suited arena for it.

Like Pat Condell would say: "Peace!"

Regards

JJ

27. Richard Dawkins on The Big Questions

Comment #176883 by JernJane on May 8, 2008 at 8:44 am

Is this just the way British live debate programs are, or are most of the people there just extremely selfish and impolite?

I wanted to tell them to shut up on a number of occasions.

Some of them seem to simply love hearing their own voice.

What a revealing thing to say that the only satisfactory explanation for evil in the world is the existence of a/the devil.

EDIT: Oh and one more thing: Is it just me or do the same people clap after every single comment/reply?

28. Norway flourishes as secular nation

Comment #175851 by JernJane on May 6, 2008 at 6:45 am

With regards to beer (and food in general - in fact - things in general) being expensive in Norway, let me just point out that it is only really expensive compared to your personal economy in relation to the economy of your own society.

I'm no economist of any sort, but I do understand that the word "expensive" is a relative term and it is first and foremost relative to your own personal netto income.

About Norway and secularism:

I believe the state church is completely obsolete and I also think Christians would be more happy with a solution that didn't let the government choose their bishops. They don't choose imams for Norwegian Muslims, so why should they control the church in that way? Obviously because Evangelistic Lutheran Christianity is the state religion. Norway is a pluralistic society. It should be treated as such with freedom of speech, religion, movement etc for all its (lawful) inhabitants, regardless.

Furthermore, Norway is increasingly secularistic. The law that allows favourable teaching of Christianity over other religions/world views in primary schools is on its way out of the legal system. The average Norwegian cares more for where their tax money end up than that their traditional views are taught as truth in schools. I think that speaks for itself and should be celebrated as a step in the right direction.

PS: I put "lawful" in parantheses because I do believe in punishment and imprisonment for criminals who commit horrendous acts such as pedophilia, rape, murder etc, much rather than therapy.