Comments by Fanusi Khiyal

Comment #257254 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 30, 2008 at 8:40 am

"Offered" as in "in response to a question about what it was, after a long argument, it was suggested I add it"

Comment #257251 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 30, 2008 at 8:38 am

decius, I don't know how to break this to you but that's not the same website, and this is the first time I've seen that. Sorry to have to explain that.

Looking at the website, there is a FAQ.

EDIT: actually, it turns out there is something of a manifesto, and I know it's not going to be believed, but this is the first time I've read it. Or how many here have read the rd.net FAQ?

LC is a moniker for regulars. You claimed something for which you had no evidence and nothing but a sinister sounding assertion. Anyway, now I'll return to the ether.

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Comment #257240 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 30, 2008 at 8:27 am

Before I disappear into the ether I should just point out that what decius has said is the most utter balls. The status of LC is not awarded but achieved by being able to edit your name. So I'm sorry to say that decius is making things up.

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Comment #257000 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 11:38 pm

The comparisons here are getting truly ridiculous - BNP, the Klan? Titania, I repeat it isn't that I'm "not with the program", it's that you infer a program where none exists.

I repeat my offer, and I'd be glad if people took me up on it.

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Comment #256893 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 4:58 pm

What does Misha do or say to people who call him out on that stuff? Would you be stripped of your LC title?

I still fail to see why this is any worse than my occasional LOUD threats to publically crucify the fools at the local licensing office, but to answe your question titania:

It was calling Misha out in the first place that made me an LC - it's a voluntary thing for the regulars. I have called most people out there on all sorts of issues - that usually earns me respect. In one argument about the influence of Christianity, I brought up Turing and the horrible effects of homophobia there (incidentally, the argument was about Christianity; I don't think I've seen a homophobic comment, beyond the statement that Christianity considers it sinful). Etc. etc.

Again, I don't see what the big deal is here - are none of you seriously telling me you have never threatened to do something ghastly to, I don't know, the republican party or whatever?

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Anyway, here's an offer: if sufficient numbers of people want me to retire from these boards, I shall do so - on the condition that they dismantle the last bunch of posts, right back to where this bloody flare up started, and knock the rest of this off. If you're interested, let me know.

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Corylus,

I am learning and I continue to learn - however, I simply cannot take Fanusi seriously as a source of information.

Jesus, I wouldn't take me seriously as a source of information. However, I do take people like Ibn Warraq and Ali Sina and Ayaan Hirsi Ali very, very seriously.

. For example, the sacrifice of women's rights to control their own bodies upon the alter of some form of 'anti-jihad' will be fought by me from the outset to the absolute end

Corylus, my views on abortion have nothing to do with the Jihad, strange as I know that seems. I used to be a "first trimester" type, but then I learned more and more about embryology. Basically, I ended up like Hitchens.

As regards Objective morality, I don't think any more than Sam Harris does when he says that we can, in fact, investigate the roots of morality.

I'm not saying what it is, merely that we can find it.

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Comment #256882 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm

decius, you just crossed a line. What, exactly, are you trying to prove? You may remember that I specifically mentioned there that there was a serious problem with the loathesome types at the head of the rally - however, my father was there with the Iranian diaspora protestors. What in hell's name is your point?

You ever stuck your neck out, decius?

Titania, I am getting fed to the teeth with this. I have said this multiple times: the most I'd like to see is to have citizenship made contingent on the renunciation of Shariah. Then you'd have the legal mechanism to expel people like Abu Hamza. That's it. Provide a way to get people like Hamza out of the country and get them to stay out.

Titania, I was offered the LC after an extremely long argument about Christianity and its role in human development where I proceeded to walk all over everyone's ideas. Far worse than even the arguments I've had here.

Oh, and the lead singer of CoF? He says alot worse things, all the time. Ditto "Sistah Soujah".

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Mark Smith, I am happy to resume that discussion any time you want. Right now, though I have a bit on my hands.

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Comment #256850 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Titania, I know of those cases. Columbine, for example, was connected with neo-nazism. Now, anyone on nicedoggie.net connected with neo-nazis? Answer: no. Did, in fact, the site lay into Pat Buchanan for those associations? Answer: yes.

Yet if that's the way we're going to go, that any tangential connection is okay, then may I remind you that we have people on this site endorsing murderers like Chavez? Or people calling themselves marxists and communists? Know how much blood was spilled there?

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Comment #256842 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm

My honest reaction

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Steve, when you have an honest reaction, let me know. You have systematically lied about my views for some time now. You have never honestly engaged with them, merely sought an excuse, any excuse, to avoid dealing with them.

As regards my views on Islam, has anyone here, at all, shown those views to be incorrect? Not the prescriptions, but the diagnosis?

However, there are honest and very decent people here, and decius is one of them, whose acquaintance I should like to preserve.

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Comment #256841 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 3:08 pm

decius, at my undergrad uni, there were alot of metal fans. I remember one of the bands mentioned was called "Cradle of Filth". I looked them up in a book one of my buddies had. Apparently, their lead singer had said that he thought the slaughter of two thirds of the planet was a good thing.

Now, does that mean that all metal fans are genocidal?

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Comment #256838 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 3:04 pm

decius, now what do you want?

An acknowledgement of plain facts, less hypocrisy, no denial of objective reality, more intellectual honesty.

I have given that. Done. And, yes, it was the phrase "sand niggers" that convinced me. To be honest, I hadn't noticed it before now.

I've given you my honest response. What else is there? We're on a bleeding chat board, we can't give evidence any other way.

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Comment #256833 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Goldy, decius, post #256825.

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Comment #256827 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Oh, for the love of - decius, you posted again before I finished my latest.

Frankus, I don't call for violence against a whole people, at least not seriously (that is, no worse than what I've threatened the local beaurocracy with, after what they put me through - I hope noone is going to call that "conspiracy for murder").

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Comment #256825 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:52 pm

decius, okay though. Rereading that, I see where you're coming from. I maintain it's a rant, and that's that, but I also see you're point.

I give you my word that in the future I will take them up on this, even if it's just a rant. Just don't ask me to dig into dead threads that are long gone.

Although, of course, this is what I would say... I could point you to some posts where I have been what you call a "moderating" voice, but I can't provide you with any proof. All I'll say is that I've been avoiding reading that quote, which tells me you're in the right here.

Still, again, I can't provide any evidence that would suit the critics, unless you want to follow my career on the web... So, I'll have to leave it at that.

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Comment #256818 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:40 pm

decius, given that we have actual anti-Nazi veterans there...

When you find a piece of "race" hatred, tell me. I'll take them up on that.

Seriously, what is it you want from me?

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Comment #256808 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:27 pm

*Shrug* I'm not with Harris on the new-age Buddhist stuff.

Fair enough. I think that there really is some good research to be done, and some's already been done.

But you get the point that you can use the language provided by religion without being religious yourself, yes?

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Comment #256805 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:23 pm

Okay decius, as I said, I'd file that under a rant. And to be honest, now that you highlight it, yes, some of the language is repellant. And here's the kicker, Bonzai, decius - how many have been killed for that? How many laws have been broken? Nada.

If Islam only contained rants, and nothing else, I'd pay it no more attention than, say, the rapper "Sitah Soujah" who says that "blacks should get a day off work to kill whites". Or the rape and violence filled stuff of heavy metal bands.

The trouble is that in Islam's case, things are rather nastier.

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Comment #256802 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:19 pm

Lazarus,

I see sin. Absolute sin has a root cause, yeah

It certainly can do. Consider the following hypothetical: you're a member of one of the "middleman tribes" in Africa. Now these are the ones who have survived by selling out their fellows to whichever raiders came calling: Arabs, Portugese, British, whatever. Now, are you going to go along with that? Are you sure? When you know that ratting on the other lot isn't the best shot you have for your little sister ending up as a plaything for the invaders? When you know that if you don't, its certain that the guys down the river will and then you'll be the "fine print"?

That's a nightmare scenario, but it is a real one. And a real "root cause".

Diacanu,

Sin and souls are spook language, and they make me cringe, apparently, you're more comfortable with them.

Well, Sam Harris has said that buddhism has provided us with a wonderful vocabulary about phenomena we haven't really understood yet or fitted into scientific worldviews. I'd say the same applies to other religions.

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Comment #256793 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:12 pm

al, PM for you.

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Comment #256792 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:11 pm

I did mention Sin - or rather, that Hitchens's had mentioned it.

I'd call Sin that part of evil or corruption that destroys your own soul and character. If you've ever seen someone who had everything going for them go down the path of drink and drugs and waste it all, you can see what Sin is.

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Comment #256786 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 2:05 pm

I suppose it comes down to the context.

Correct. Do I believe in life after death? No. Reincarnation? No. Anything like that? No.

Yet the human soul, the human character is a very real thing. As for redemption, I discussed that earlier. You get jihadis who have reformed themselves, or Hitler youth leaders who managed to turn themselves around. What's that, if not redemption?

As for Sin, Hitchens does mention that in god is not Great.

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Comment #256780 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 pm

If it matters, Diacanu, which I'm sure it won't, there are plenty of atheists who have invoked the idea of a soul. The granddaddy of modern anti-theism, Nietzsche, discussed the soul. It's a very good way of discussing the human consciousness, the human self.

As for prayer, if it's wrong to thank people who say they prayed for my father, then so be it. I couldn't care less.

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Comment #256778 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 pm

decius, sorry for the delay.

Here's the relevant portion of your definition:

belief system or culture is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not

The first part would qualify, not the second part. Unless by "rule" you mean discussions of how to vote this way or that way, or discussions of social change. In which case, yes, it qualifies. However, so then does any political blog anywhere. Any website, and organization promoting a polical view, is, by that definition, supremacist.

It isn't dominionist, if that's what you're asking.

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Comment #256771 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Bonzai, I was calling Brandy names, not because she was a transsexual, but because she was a prostitute. I gave my reasons for that.

Where, exactly, have I taunted gays? The closest I can think of is my comment about being "homosnobbic"; something cooked up between me and a bisexual friend of mine a while back.

Nor am I some sort of champion of transsexual rights; I'm sticking up for my friend. You may have heard of the concept.

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Comment #256766 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:42 pm

Saying you will fix it "now" is of no use.

Wait a second - a minute ago, you said you wanted a fix. So, by this standard, since you ignored the violence toward gays by Islam, you don't give a damn about that, yes? The fact that it took you so long to say anything about the hatred of transsexuals at Pride, means you don't care about that either, yes?

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Comment #256763 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:39 pm

More or less, Bonzai. If it's a pure referendum, I don't mind voting for it. If it's a candidate, candidate's are always a mixed bag. You always choose between options.

It simply isn't something I feel strongly enough about to go crusading over.

N.B.: Your PM doesn't seem to be working.

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Comment #256755 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:32 pm

There are usually facilities for editing posts on such sites. If not, you can always post a correction or retraction.

There aren't. You get five minutes to edit, and, given that it was a one line post by me, I didn't think to do so. The thread itself is long dead. What would a bleeding comment mean? I said I'd post one when the subject came up again.

Even more damningly, I've said this at least three times here. You have always ignored it, and this is the first time you even mention it.

I notice that you have only now decided to voice your concerns about the fate of transsexuals. By the standards so kindly offered me, I think I'm fair in concluding that you have no problem with that discrimination, yes? After all, you only now brought a complaint, when it doesn't make you look so good.

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Comment #256747 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm

h4d, a PM for you.

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I notice that there's a host of lies. Apparently my membership of nicedoggie.net isn't enough - I need to be lied about.

al, I notice Steve's claiming I'm against gay marriage based on something I have already answered. I did post that, yes. I also made a similar post here, except that when I reposted it, I forgot to take the gay marriage bit out. I've explained this a number of times - I'm unsurprised to see it ignored.

My stance on gay marriage? I have no objections to it, and would vote for it. Sure, I'm happy to say it the next time the discussion comes up, here or elsewhere. I decided to annoy some of the posters here by, amongst other things, proposing that they could have my vote for gay marriage when my transexual friend didn't get picked on at the Pride. I also said I'd like to read Lee Harris's arguments because, a) he's one of the most intelligent writers I've ever come across, and b) he's a gay man in a committed relationship himself.

If that's "against gay rights", then so be it.

GoatBoy, thanks. I'm fine with "Islamophobe", the rest is junk.

I defy anyone to find evidence of my being a racist. I have never said or written a single racist thing in my life. Now, I'm sure that someone is going to dig out the post where I say reading the old works on eugenics is valuable, and leave out the bit where I say "because it trains your mind in argumentation and logical reasoning". I read creationist stuff for similar reasons.

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Comment #256673 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 10:20 am

Everyone,

I need to get myself home now. It looks like my time on this site may be at an end, though I'll see what's going on the next morning.

I maintain what I said: There is a difference between what is seriously said and what is a rant. decius, for crying out loud, I was agreeing with you just then! And you may be right - maybe the terror I feel from Islam has finally driven me a bit nuts.

As regards my comments about Islam - may I remind everyone that most people have said that I'm not wrong about what I write about Islam, but merely with my prescriptions? Please, just look at what I cite when I describe Islam - people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina and so on.

Anyway, night all.

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Comment #256668 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 10:06 am

If you have a look at the nicedoggies site, you'll see that all of the comments endorse the white supremacist line.

That, Laurie, is a flat out lie.

Try posting anything contrary on it, and see how far you get.

Actually, here's an idea: try posting some white supremacist ideas and see how fast you get kicked out.

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Comment #256662 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 10:03 am

root, I was making a point. People hold certain ideas because they think they're right, and I think it's foolish to call that "supremacist". I was not calling this site supremacist.

Now, that label would be properly applied to, say, Stormfront. You're completely right that "supremacist" is always used in connection with neo-nazis and so on.

I think it's wrong to use it based on peoples thoughts. Look, have you seen the Hitchens vs. Hitchens debate? In it, Christopher Hitchens makes the point that he could call all Catholics fascists, because of the Church's association with Nazism. Yet he says that would be grotesquely dishonest.

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Comment #256658 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:59 am

Frankly, your comparison between Misha and Dawkins, and what is promoted on either site is beneath contempt.

Okay, decius, back up right now. I never intended to draw that comparison. I've defended Dawkins over there. Can we get that clear, right at the outset?

My point was that the word "supremacist" has racist connotations. I dislike it being applied to ideas because anyone who is honest has to think that their ideas are the correct ones, and therefore that they are better than those that run counter to them. I mean, do we atheists think we have a better handle on what's real than religious believers? Of course we do. Do religious believers think the converse? Ditto. Well, then there's good scope for an argument.

decius, I simply disagree with your statement that it isn't a rant site. Well, it's a rant site, plus some very serious points, but no one, I repeat, no one has ever been murdered or anything remotely similar because of the posts there.

Anyway, if I was some sort of subversive force on these boards - why on earth would I be posting using the same name I do elsewhere?

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Comment #256649 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:53 am

Mitchell, "atheists" is a group, isn't it?

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Comment #256647 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:51 am

Titania, here's a little factoid:

Number of people murdered in response to nicedoggie.net: Zero.

There are, it's true, serious calls to action on that site. Such as voting, donating to certain charities (I advertised for AHA's protection detail there), and so on.

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Comment #256645 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:49 am

righton, I think you managed to pick the worst possible time.

Yep, the film's worth watching.

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Comment #256643 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:49 am

*grins* al, you missed an all important post where I really violated site decorum by saying that Davros made the Emperor Sideous look like a pansy in comparison.

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Comment #256639 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:47 am

Titania, I answered this:

Ask Fanusi what he meant by the Muslims need to be pushed back from the gates of Vienna again.

Jihadis. I answered that here.

Come on, can you really not tell the difference between when I'm being serious and when I'm ranting? When I indulge in nuke 'em rhetoric, I'm ranting. When I say that:

the truth is that the majority of Muslims - even among Jihad-supporters - have little choice in what they are. they have had hatred and evil poured down their throats from an age when they couldn't do anything about it. I hope, more than anything, that they can break free from the mental cage in which they are imprisoned

I'm being serious.

Surely that's too obvious?

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Comment #256637 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:45 am

decius,

Of Judeo-Christian ideologies and groups. It is made abundantly clear already by the main graphics, and even more so by the content of the posts.

Well, this site's an atheist and Darwinian supremacist site, then, isn't it? Sure the thrust is fundie-Christian, but they let atheists rant and hoot as much as anyone, even when the target is Christianity and Judaism.

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Comment #256635 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:43 am

decius, al, Peace, root, Mitchell and everyone who has bothered to be just about this - thanks.

Fanusi, you have repeatedly used your father's incident to gain rhetorical points here and on Misha's site.

Actually, I mentioned it once here, and I mentioned it once there because the truth about that rally was drowned out. People like my father who are not connected with goons like Le Pen, and other like the Iranian diaspora who were also at the demonstration, do not get a fair picture.

Over here, you quoted me thanking people for their condolences and their prayers in a scornful tone. You wonder that I got angry?

Fanusi, you have repeatedly used your father's incident to gain rhetorical points here and on Misha's site.

For the simple and straightforward reason that it's a - wait again - rant site. There are rants and there are serious points. The "nuke the Muslims" rhetoric is a rant. If I ever thought it was a serious advocacy of genocide, I wouldn't participate.

What I have said, and I have said this on this site, is that if we see CBN terrorism, you will have nuclear war.

Sin is a real concept?

Redemption?

Titania I know of honest to God jihadis, people who salivated over the deaths of jews and infidels, turn their lives around and regain their humanity. What else can you call that but Redemption?

Fanusi, you actually quoted back to me that you seek the "destruction of your enemies" when you are trying to convince me that it is all just rhetorical ranting?

So does Christopher Hitchens. Remember, we are talking about the jihadis, the scum of the earth here. Why shouldn't I cheer when I hear that the Islamic Courts Union in Somalia have been crushed?

See Fanusi, it is ok to admit where we have fallen somewhat short.

Well, fair enough, Titania. I've indulged in the "nuke 'em" rhetoric myself - that's called "ranting". In case you haven't noticed, I don't exactly have nuclear means. I do that sometimes, I do it a fair bit - especially early on when I first realized the magnitude of Islam's threat, when I was absolutely scared to death of it. So, there's my answer about that.

Look, on this site I've likened myself to Davros - who, if you want to get right down to it, is a genocidal maniac. Now, who takes that seriously? Who really thinks I'm about to build an army of daleks - or that I would, even if I could?

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Comment #256618 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:27 am

And you might, possibly, have also noticed that I wrote the following:

*gestures* I'm not a Christian, and I don't pray for my enemies, but seek their destruction. That said, the truth is that the majority of Muslims - even among Jihad-supporters - have little choice in what they are. they have had hatred and evil poured down their throats from an age when they couldn't do anything about it. I hope, more than anything, that they can break free from the mental cage in which they are imprisoned. Every mind won from the clutches of Islam is a victory. As I said, I'm not a Christian, but sin, redemption, the soul - these are real things.

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Comment #256613 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:23 am

Titania, I have responded multiple times. Are you going to respond to me?

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Comment #256609 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:21 am

decius, supremacist of what exactly?

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Comment #256608 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:20 am

Titania,

Al, why hasn't he posted his responses here?

I did. Would it kill you to read what I wrote?

Here's another comment:

Okay, I've said this before, and I will say it again: Christian conservatives have noone to blame for themselves as long as they insist on pushing this nonsense. That ridiculous film expelled isn't just loaded with scientific howlers (it's been thoroughly dismembered at richarddawkins.net, if anyone cares) it is activey dishonest in that it solicited contributions from people who had no idea what they were supporting and no idea how their clips would be used, and it also engaged in what John Derbyshire has accurately called blood libel of Western Civilisation - this cretinous idea that Darwin caused the Hollocaust and the Gulags and Communism.

That's worse than just being wrong and ignorant. That's naked lying in the worst possible way.

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Comment #256604 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:18 am

Peace, my uncle uses that phrase alot. Where does it come from?

a program of extinction of the enemy.

Guilty as charged, Laurie. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, HAMAS, the whole bloody lot of the Jihadis, yes, I want them extinct. And, yes, I do hate them.

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Comment #256597 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:14 am

Titania I respond and you fail to answer. What, exactly, is going on here? Do you want an honest response? Or do you want an excuse to dismiss my points in perpetuity?

I mean, look at this:

When Steve asked Fanusi about the gay thing this morning, I decided to post the other stuff so that Fanusi could explain and could let us know whether he agrees with Misha or not. So far, he has not been very convincing with his little references to satire. I don't think Misha and his ilk would understand the word.

Actually, the satire site is imao.us. But how can you skate over the comments I made condemning Christian abuse of homosexuals?

I said my piece: I'm fine with gay marriage, but it isn't a cause that inspires fervor or frenzy in me, which is because I'm too worried about other things? Now, what is so wrong about that?

And then there's this:

But Fanusi, if you are a Loyal Citizen of Misha's army, words fail me

Er - what about the fact that Misha claims to be a Sith? Are you similarly worried that we Dark Jedi are going to "turn this republic into a mighty Empire"?

And if we are talking about repudiating this and repudiating that - how about you, Titania, repudiate exploiting my father's attack for rhetorical points? How about that for a start?

Jesus, how far do you want to go? Why don't you dig out that post where I praise the Inquisition? Admittedly, it was in sarcastic reference to Rowan Williams, but you could use that. Or my comments about the positives of nuclear war? I think I wrote something about that when I was about 11.

What is difficult about the concept "It's a rant site - chill"?

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Comment #256589 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 9:06 am

Laurie, you may have noticed - actually you probably didn't - that I called that guy out.

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Comment #256576 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 8:47 am

Nairb,

Also what does LC mean? It makes you look like some paramilitary

Oh come on. Look, if anyone seriously thinks that I'm part of a paramilitary outfit, and that that's our base, then it isn't a matter for argument, but a matter of law enforcement. If you think I'm part of some sort of gang, then surely that's something you should call in? Seriously, how could I disprove that?

LC means "Loyal Citizen", something of a fan moniker. It makes me as much a paramilitary type as calling himself "Darth" gives Misha a death star.

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Comment #256573 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 8:42 am

Which points Titania? For the umpteenth time, it's a rant site, and the violence supposedly "incited" there is no worse than some of what you might hear around a roleplaying table (actually, I've heard alot worse around a roleplaying table.)

Here are some of my comments, from that site:

Misha the reason for my irritation with this kind of thing is twofold. First of all, I, like Christopher Hitchens, find it a little disingenous that the gentle Nazarene brought the doctrine of eternal pain. Which I do think proves Nietzsche's commentary on Christianity to a certain extent.

The second reason is Alan Turing. The man who helped crack the Enigma code and thus played perhaps as great a role in defeating the Nazis as did Chuchhill? The one who was hounded to suicide because of his homosexuality?

However, the simple fact is that some of the greatest human beings ever to live were homosexual or bisexual (Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare k.t.l), the kind of men it is a privelidge just to have shared the same Earth with. And I'm not about to forget it.

(that should answer accusations of homophobia).

Etc.

When I say repudiate, I mean quote Misha to his face and really repudiate him point by point. Al, some call Misha Mein Fuhrer on that site

Er, the reason I ain't calling Misha on that one, Titania is for the simple reason that I've read his blistering attacks on Pat Buchanan for having neo-Nazi connections.

And most importantly, he has called for Muslims to be pushed back like from Vienna; i.e. out of Europe. It is clear he is not just talking about jihadis here.

Titania, who, exactly, was outside the gates of Vienna? Jihadis, that's who. My comment was "it may be time for a replay", on the same day I had heard that news. CAn you possibly understand that I was a trifle upset?

He needs to answer my point about how he is going to restrain Misha and his army from attacking gays, Supreme Court justices (Misha has openly called for murder here) and most importantly atheists along with Muslims once they gain power and implement their plan

*dryly* Misha and his army must be laughing their heads off right now. You still don't get it: this is a rant site, and the tone is very, very rough. Some members refer to the others as "religious pukes". Direct quote. I don't think I've ever seen a credible incitement of violence towards gays or atheists. Yes, he uses the "Rope. Tree. [insert name here]" line alot. Again, that isn't serious, at all. It's just rhetoric. Noone is honestly being incited to murder there.

48. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256563 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 8:32 am

Steve, I'll repeat what I said: it's a rant site. Yes, the Emperor's rhetoric is enough to melt lead. And your point, here, is...? For crying out loud, this isn't Stormfront or whatever.

Honestly, I'm surprised you haven't dug out the comment where I praise an article entitled "A Religious War Would Be a Great Step to Ending Racism"

(the article in question is from a satire site, that includes suggestions for building a Death Star, amongst others).

49. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256554 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 8:26 am

root,

However, I have very serious doubts about you from all that I've seen. I see no reason to believe what you say. So until I'm convinced myself way or the other of whether you are a troll or not, I'm not on your side.

Okay, that's entirely fair. What would constitute proof in your eyes?

50. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256549 by Fanusi Khiyal on September 29, 2008 at 8:24 am

Mitchell, I was referring to what Steve quoted, as is screamingly obvious from my comment.