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451. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187917 by epeeist on June 3, 2008 at 3:21 am

Comment #187914 by AllanW

Everything you ever wanted to know about Appleby. In his own words ...

Well I almost got it right four days ago - http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,2656,Storm-erupts-over-virginity-divorce,The-Australian,page3#186828

Missed the homophobia.

I have to wonder, how old is this guy? He actually comes across as very juvenile.

He also comes across as being clueless about the basic ideas behind science, presentation of empirical evidence and simple argumentation and logic.

452. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #187886 by epeeist on June 3, 2008 at 1:22 am

Comment #187885 by Quetzalcoatl

Wait a second.....there's no hyphen, but al-rawandi sounds quite similar to al-cohol....maybe he's a drunk as well!
Alkali - that's a fairly basic response from me.

453. Richard Dawkins Responds to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Comment #187882 by epeeist on June 3, 2008 at 1:06 am

Comment #187417 by djspideyspinster


I believe it to be poor judgment on the part of Dawkins to not debate the likes of D'Souza or Dr. William Lane Craig (whom he also turned down). It communicates a lack of confidence, in my opinion, which is contrary to the good Professor's book, The God Delusion. If theists truly do believe "myths," and "fairy tales," why not take EVERY opportunity to expose this? Surely it would be an easy task for someone as "brilliant" as Dawkins, yes? I believe that Mr. Dawkins is beginning to understand why philosopher, Dr. Alvin Plantinga, when reviewing Dawkins' book wrote: "You might say that some of his forays into philosophy are at best sophomoric, but that would be unfair to sophomores; the fact is (grade inflation aside), many of his arguments would receive a failing grade in a sophomore philosophy class (http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2007/002/1.21.html). Indeed.

Hmmm, Dr. Platinga and Dr. Lane Craig, but Mr. Dawkins. We wouldn't be showing a slight bias here would we? You might want to look up his qualifications - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins

You want to know whether a message is true, but you advocate a debate with D'Souza? I note allbaster is proposing a debate with Vox Day as well. Neither of these two are known as proponents of truth.

And to be blunt, why does there need to be a debate on theology. Show that there is empirical evidence for your particular creator god first.

454. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187699 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 1:12 pm

Comment #187689 by Tezcatlipoca

Good Grief! Not the "think of the children" gambit...
To try and break this up a bit.

MPhil recommended Mackie's "Ethics: Inventing Right and Wrong" and Rawls "A Theory of Justice". I haven't got through either of them yet (too many other books on the in the stack) but both of them deal with consequentialist and contractualist ethics. Perhaps this is something that might form the basis of looking at whether and where to foster children.

455. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187691 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Comment #187683 by Appleby

By all means, go ahead.
Well, I had to show you how to formulate a scientific hypothesis I seem to recall.

Now, you may be being subject to the pile on effect that sometimes happens on this site. But you are in this situation because you are trying to defend a position in which all you seem to have is personal opinion and prejudice.

456. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187680 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Comment #187659 by Appleby

You claim there are no differences whatsoever but in that *you're* committing a fallacy in trying to prove a negative.
One can prove a negative, have a glance at http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/theory.html

457. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187658 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm

Comment #187652 by Mitchell Gilks

As I mentioned, two women can have "real biological children" now. So that point is both inaccurate and moot because what is "normal" or "natural" is not necessarily good.
But he doesn't particularly like women either. He thinks they are inferior and refers to them as "girls".

458. Character Attacks: How to Properly Apply the Ad Hominem

Comment #187608 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 11:06 am

I can recommend Douglas Walton's "Informal Logic" which gives lots of good advice for argumentation.

459. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187389 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 4:58 am

Comment #187381 by Appleby

And if I have to explain to you why a society where men fuck exclusively women is better off than one where men fuck other men, cats, goats and dogs then you clearly have some twisted ideas.
Can you say "begging the question"?

460. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187383 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 4:53 am

Comment #187374 by Appleby

I thought you might say something like that. This is the problem with your kind of liberalism.
How do you know it is a "liberal" position? He may base his ethics on utilitarianism, contractualism or have his own system.

Personally given the relative sentience of your cat and the damage you could do to it, plus the possibility of srsly pissing off ceiling cat I would argue against Allan's position.

461. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #187354 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 3:10 am

Comment #187351 by Philip1978

Ah yes, please can you possibly refrain from using the words Fundamentalist Atheist, you know the reasons why!
But he won't will he. Whether it is just part of his persona or whether he is looking to generate quarrel dialogue that he can quote mine I honestly don't know.

What I am glad to see is that the very large majority of people have seen through it and no longer rise to the bait.

462. Richard Dawkins interviewed by John Humphrys on Cardinal Murphy O'Connor

Comment #187334 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 1:29 am

Comment #187331 by hcaroe

Maybe try praying.
Oh good, another content free post from a theist.

Prayer - how to pretend you are doing something, even though nothing happens.

463. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #187332 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 1:16 am

Comment #187328 by MEmmanuel

SUGGESTED READING:
Romans 1:18-22
(Chapter one, verses eighteen through twenty-two)

Suggested reading for you:

Any real book on science, go on expand your library to more than one book.

464. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187329 by epeeist on June 2, 2008 at 12:56 am

Comment #187239 by mmurray

Yuck. Don't they have plumbers in your part of the UK epeeist ? :-)


US Corporate Lawyer to plumber: "Could you please come and fix my toilet, it is blocked".

Plumber: "There is a minimum charge equal to one hour's work, £1000"

US CL: "£1000 an hour, that's more than I can charge and I am a US corporate lawyer"

Plumber: "I know, I couldn't charge that amount when I was a US corporate lawyer"

The major hassle is actually getting someone to turn out for this kind of job. Much easier to go down to the local DIY store and get a set of drain rods.

465. Random Acts of Evolution

Comment #187159 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 11:45 am

Comment #187155 by Auraboy

Damn. That God sure was a Microsoft code writer...Useless junk everywhere..
Yeah, the worrying thing though is that no MS software works properly before version 3.

I wonder what version we are?

EDIT: And you note that he has written any documentation for the last 2000 years either.

466. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187151 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 11:34 am

Comment #187150 by Appleby

I think homosexuals are better off living in communities of their own. They'll be more comfortable there. I don't mind having them as my neighbour. I would prefer a straight person, though. At least then we can talk and joke about more stuff (e.g. girls).
Hmm, good idea. Perhaps they ought to wear some sort of badge when they come out of their ghettos communities.

A yellow star on an armband would be a good idea.

467. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187147 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 11:16 am

Comment #187130 by Appleby

Well let's say you knew a guy who liked the taste of his own shit.
I live in a house built about 1750 with drains to match. A couple of weeks back they blocked up and I had to rod them, about 6m of shit. Nasty job, I needed several baths afterwards to clean the smell off me.

Now I am straight (wife and two daughters to corroborate this), but I stunk of shit. Where does this put me in your hierarchy?

468. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187094 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 9:32 am

Comment #187082 by MaxD

Look at demographics in science by major and you find more males in hard sciences that require little interaction with other humans or animals, and then look at the life sciences and you see women out number or at least equal the men in biology, psychology and anthropology.
But this may be cultural baggage of course. And it has affected scientific theories, specifically in sciences like biology and anthropology. You might want to see if you can dig out a paper called "Gender and the Biological Sciences" by Kathleen Okruhlik for a good analysis.

469. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #187084 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 9:25 am

Comment #187064 by Mark Smith

Evangelicalism is the strongest and fastest-growing force in Christianity in the UK.
Is it really growing or does it only appear so because the CofE and the like are becoming irrelevant and all we are left with are the vociferous nutters? Alternatively, could it be growing in response to and increasing Islamic presence or influx of money and lunacy from the States?

I don't want to generate complacency, but I wonder whether we are actually seeing some final, violent death throes.

470. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187077 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 9:13 am

Comment #187071 by Appleby


I don't get his point. I assumed he was saying that I need to "disprove" some hypothesis. An hypothesis, by definition, has yet to be proven in the first place.
Groan, do I have to post this again.

Let's make a hypothesis, that black people are significantly less intelligent that white people, call this h. Now to be at all useful hypotheses have to be able to be tested, and to be tested then they need to make predictions. One possibility might be that African-Americans from a specific demographic with equivalent access to education should score lower on some kind of standardised test, call this prediction p.

Now

h ⇒ p

i.e. h implies p

~p

i.e. if p is false then

~h

h is false.

Conversely, if p is not falsified then it does not mean that h is true. It merely means that it has been corroborated and has gained some measure of verisimilitude. If you like, our hypothesis becomes more probable.

471. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187061 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 8:47 am

Comment #187057 by Appleby

An hypothesis hardly needs disproving. Perhaps I am just looking for equally strong evidence to the contrary. Where would we be then?
Perhaps you ought to go and read something about the way science is done before you advance your "opinion". I would suggest this as a starter - http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

472. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187055 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 8:31 am

Comment #187052 by Appleby

It is a double-edged sword this thing about evidence and truth. It doesn't have to cut the way we like it. I might just go and start looking for scientific data to support the aforementioned contentions. What do you think of that?
That you will probably find it. However, this is because you are looking for verification.

If you knew anything about the philosophy of science or statistics you would know that you are looking to disprove a hypothesis by critical test rather than looking for verification.

473. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187027 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 5:49 am

Comment #187025 by Appleby

I could probably take you with my centuries-old samurai sword.


Possessing a centuries old samurai sword does not make you an expert at using it.

Given that I have been a fencer for some little while and have trained with top Hungarian and Polish coaches then I suspect that given a sharp Hungarian sabre you might lose hands at the wrist before you got anywhere near.

Of course, that's only my opinion.

474. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187022 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 5:32 am

Comment #187019 by Colwyn Abernathy

Epeeist, quick question...totally off topic. You ever try saber?
I never fenced it competitively, I was (as my moniker indicates) an epeeist.

However, I do coach it. I have had pupils who have become members of the British and Irish teams and gone on to win British and Irish championships. I have also had pupils who have represented Britain at world Under-17 and veterans championships.

Do I sound superior enough? I should note that my pupils have been both male and female.

EDIT: Photo of me and my bodyguards at our regional championships - Bodyguards

Also, the same two pupils in the finals of the men's sabre - Flunge

475. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #187017 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 4:49 am

Monoape - PM for you

476. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #187004 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 3:55 am

Comment #186995 by CanadianRealist

I wonder how these medical students reconcile our very imperfect human bodies having being created in the image of a perfect creator. Or if they believe the human body to be as perfect, why do they feel a need to become a doctor?
Or even a pharmacist - http://www.tamesideadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1051072_morningafter_pill_denied_for_beliefs

477. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #186994 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 3:13 am

Comment #186989 by scottishgeologist


Of course, the faith heads were moaning (just for a change)

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2007/11/24/newsstory10599041t0.asp
They shouldn't have held it so close to Christmas. April would have been a better time.

Oh wait, too close to Easter. Well, May is always nice.

Oh wait, too close to Whitsun. Better move it to October or so.

Oh wait, too close to Advent. January looks good.

Oh wait, too close to Epiphany. Probably best to abandon it completely. Or you could run in it a basement where there are no lights, the stairs have been removed and the sign on the door says "Beware of the Leopard".

478. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186993 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 3:05 am

Comment #186991 by rod-the-farmer

In the minds of many, I suspect, you have become a jerk who though articulate, none of us would want you marrying our sister. Or even dating her.
Yeah, I know my daughter (MA from Cambridge in Politics, Philosophy and Economics, captain of the University women's epee squad, member of her college's rowing squad, executive member of the women's union committee and member of the union committee) probably wouldn't have time for him.

479. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #186992 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 3:01 am

Comment #186973 by clearthinker

He spent the whole lecture talking about micro-evolution and hardly one word about macro-evolution.
Care to tell us what the difference between micro and macro evolution is?

As for evidence - you might want to have a glance at this - http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

As for the numerous people who automatically come up with words like 'moron' or 'idiot' whenever anyone dares to question Darwinianism
WTF is "Darwinism"? Is it anything like "Newtonism" or "Einsteinism" when referring to gravity or "Gibbsism" or "Boltzmannism" when referring to thermodynamics?

480. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186958 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 12:58 am

Comment #186953 by keith

Even so, I didn't agree with him on Pretty Womangate. However, it now occurs to me that the woman in question was probably Annabanana and he might have been sticking up for a woman rather than women, something that I totally sympathise with. Defender of a woman, rather than Defender of Women, is a good title.
And this is where I fall out with Appleby.

Do I dislike individual black people or women, absolutely. Do I feel intellectually superior to particular white people, definitely. Does this translate into dislike of all black people and all women or a feeling of superiority over all white people? Don't be silly.

Do I think that Islam is a brutal and primitive religion? Yes. Does this mean I think that all Muslims are primitive and brutal, to do so would show a lack of rationality.

481. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #186950 by epeeist on June 1, 2008 at 12:10 am

And now her mother has been killed as well - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/01/iraq

482. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186947 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 11:32 pm

Comment #186917 by Appleby

I suppose you are now thinking of situations where women would be the best judge (e.g. cooking or childcare)
Ah, I see where you are coming from, "Kinder, Kuche, Kirche". Now where have I heard that before?

In that case perhaps we ought to be restricting women's education? I mean you wouldn't want girls going to places like Oxford or Cambridge would you? A little like the girls from my wife's school do http://www.withington.manchester.sch.uk/downloads/Content/prospectus/wgs_06_leavers_b.pdf

Obviously too much for their pretty little heads. Much better to let them learn flower arranging, domestic management and a little bit of music (not too complicated though, mere bagatelles on the forte piano or in family groups. One wouldn't want them playing in orchestras, you never know what ideas they might get).

483. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186863 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Comment #186831 by Appleby

I think you have completely missed the point. However, your reaction is a good example of someone not being amenable to the possibility of certain truths that go against their own standards (refer Comment #186821).
You have said that half the population should have a different standard of behaviour applied to them purely on the basis of their gender.

You have intimated that you would treat people differently because of the colour of their skin or their sexuality, not because of any evidence but just because of personal "opinion" (which is in fact simply prejudice).

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

484. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186828 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 11:17 am

Comment #186827 by Appleby

We don't always have all the evidence required to form an opinion.
Oh good, then I am free to call you a misogynistic, racist bigot.

Care to deny it?

485. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186819 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 10:54 am

Comment #186789 by Appleby

I suppose if I were to say that I also believed white people are generally more intelligent than coloured people, it would just send you through the roof.
You would have to tell me what you mean by "intelligent" and what evidence you have for your claim. Otherwise I am free to dismiss it as valueless.

Unless of course, you are using the statement to justify actions by yourself and others against black people.

486. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #186817 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 10:49 am

Comment #186702 by Appleby

I would prefer not to marry a woman who had slept with other men in the past because I suspect most have a "special connection" with some of them (especially their first time). I've seen it too many times. As a husband, why should I have to live with something like this?
I take it then that you would be perfectly okay with a woman rejecting you because you have slept with other women?

487. Teacher tortures, kills boy

Comment #186788 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 10:12 am

Comment #186778 by EvidenceOnly


While it is true that we should not generalize from a single incident, it would be worth investigating if these incidents are really isolated.
Apart from the strange shift from single to plural in the above quotation I absolutely agree.

If you look at the mouthings of people like Inayat Bunglawala of the MCB you will find he dismisses such incidents as "cultural" rather than religious. Build up a large dossier and he would have a lot more difficulty in doing this.

And as you note, I still think a single incident will give the Pakistani authorities a mandate to investigate the practices of the religious schools.

488. Teacher tortures, kills boy

Comment #186777 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 9:50 am

Comment #186745 by Border Collie

We can't generalize from it? Strictly speaking, that's true. We can reduce anything to the ridiculous. That is, on some level we can't generalize anything. Considering, however, that this is not an isolated incident, but one of hundreds or thousands or relatively similar incidents that have a common root, I think a little generalization might be in order.
Were you here when the "wee flea" (David Robertson) was about? A religionist who sought to characterise allatheists on the basis of a few quotemined comments?

This is one reported incident, I can give the case of the beating of a child in my local area as another (it didn't lead to a death though. If you know of "hundreds or thousands" then add them to the list. A dozen, especially from the same area, would be pretty indicative of common behaviour.

But let's leave off the "Daily Mail" style leap to conclusions.

489. Teacher tortures, kills boy

Comment #186724 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 8:10 am

Comment #186721 by moderndaythomas

And religions are insisting that they be free from scrutiny. It's no wonder that Islam and the Catholic church are united on this matter.
You have to be slightly careful about this. It was one incident by one teacher in one school. Unless other cases come to light you can't generalise from it.

Having said that, lets hope the new Pakistani government uses it to put some controls in place over the madrassas.

490. Town moves against Islamic school

Comment #186719 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 8:03 am

Comment #185527 by Fanusi Khiyal


http://www.intelligence.org.il/Eng/sib/3_05/mein_kampf.htm

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=4&Article_id=13511
I wasn't sure whether I wanted to look at these at work.

Fanusi - it looks as though these are Arabic editions of the book, is this correct? If so, what does is imply given the small number of books that are translated into Arabic each year?

491. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #186674 by epeeist on May 31, 2008 at 1:38 am

Comment #186518 by al-rawandi

Come on, out with it, do you hate rich people?
As a generic class? Not particularly.

Seagull management (Fly in, peck around a bit, drop a load of shit, fly out) in which one trick ponies take a golden handshake to come in and manage a company, try and use their one trick regardless of whether it is appropriate or not and then take a golden goodbye and a large chunk of the pension fund 18 months later leaving someone else to clear up the mess. Absolutely loathe these guys, seen it happen too many times.

492. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #186515 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Comment #186089 by gr8hands

I suppose D'Arcy is unaware of the concept of nationalization" -- which has been done by all socialist regimes for most of the infrastructure.
In the UK worked for some things, didn't work for others.

The major hassles seem to have been politicos trying to run the industries in a top down, centralised manner once they were nationalised and thinking you could run things on a shoestring, changing plans every 18 months.

Actually - thinking on, this sounds like the bigger industries I have worked in where everything changes every 18 months as CEOs play musical golden chairs.

493. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186474 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 10:29 am

Comment #186437 by FightingFalcon

And anyway - why should I trust a company any more than I trust a government?
Because the government is the only organization that can "legally" take your house, money, property and life (not to mention spy on you) all in the guise of protecting society. Corporations don't have nearly as much arbitrary power as you think they do....
Well that tells me why I shouldn't trust the government. What it doesn't tell me is why I should trust a company.

494. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186457 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 10:00 am

Comment #186455 by FightingFalcon


And Linux?

There is enough competition in the market of computer operating systems to debunk any idea that Microsoft operates solely.
Under threat due to MS claiming they have 235 patents against the kernel which they won't disclose.

The only reason they didn't close out Linux years ago was the fact that IBM decided that revenge was a dish best served cold and decided to support it.

495. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186452 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 9:56 am

Comment #186437 by FightingFalcon

I'm writing this post on a Macbook. I wouldn't be able to do that if Microsoft had a monopoly.
Look back over your history. Apple nearly went bust a few years back. They had to be bailed out. A company called Microsoft did this for some reason.

496. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #186441 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 9:41 am

Comment #186432 by txpiper

"What this means is that a mutation may be bad for the life of the individual, but if it promotes its gene frequency in the population of descendants, it will be selected.
What you are saying here is that selection will make a decision on behalf of the progeny to the detriment of the individual organism, if necessary.
No he didn't he didn't say anything that implied teleology, that was your take on the statement.

Looking through this all you seem to do is argue from the basis of personal incredulity. Can I suggest that you recast this in to some kind of hypothetical form that makes predictions that are testable.

497. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186434 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 9:35 am

Comment #186409 by Samir Nayanajaad


FF you said, "...a company has never gained monopoly status without government assistance."

Look up Standard Oil
I have a particular bee in my bonnet in this area. The company I would nominate is Microsoft. Surely a company with some of the most loathsome business practices.

Of course, if you want to mention Monsanto...

498. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186430 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 9:26 am

Comment #186413 by FightingFalcon

As for environmentally sensitive areas - if the people feel strongly enough about it then they can boycott the company.
But you have already demolished my ancient woodland by that time.

And anyway - why should I trust a company any more than I trust a government?

499. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186405 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 8:53 am

Comment #186387 by FightingFalcon

Rather, I'll remain committed to privatization of the road system.
How does that work then? Drive a mile, pay company A, drive a mile pay company B, drive a mile...

Or are you going to do it the high tech way? End of the month you receive bills from companies A, B, C... giving details of how many miles you have driven on each of their roads. You then make payments to each of these companies. Doesn't sound too efficient to me.

How do you make decisions on which roads are to be built and who is going to build them? If company A has a trunk road but company B reckons it can provide a cheaper route that just happens to go through a town neighbourhood or an environmentally sensitive area then what bit of the market could actually prevent company B building the road?

500. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186388 by epeeist on May 30, 2008 at 8:31 am

Comment #186372 by al-rawandi

Private centers of power are as much a threat to liberty as public ones.
Al - you aren't proposing some kind of interlocking set of structures designed to stop any particular power block (government, capital, labour, military) gaining ascendency over the rest are you?

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