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501. Fox News Discussion on 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #86132 by steveroot on November 8, 2007 at 8:08 am

58. Comment #86131 by donmak on November 8, 2007 at 8:06 am
Not that I care if a person is gay or not ... but with the moral pretense of Christianity and Catholicism I must ask:

Is it just me or is that Priest really really gay?

Shhhhhhh!

That business about "pushing on kids" kinda gives the game away. ;-)
Steve

502. Fox News Discussion on 'The Golden Compass'

Comment #86126 by steveroot on November 8, 2007 at 7:54 am

I saw a photo of the Pope recently, and he don't look too healthy. I actually feel sorry for these guys in a way- it probably shortens their lives to be in such a goldfish bowl (a position as basically untenable as the whale over Magrathea). But I digress...

When in the course of human events it becomes necessary to choose a new Head Sphincter (where the Papal Bull comes from), I hope the collegial fellows will consider Father Jonathan Morris for the job. He's young enough that his long tenure would allow some of these sticky issues to be resolved. :-)
Steve

503. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #86121 by steveroot on November 8, 2007 at 7:46 am

71. Comment #86077 by Philip1978 on November 8, 2007 at 4:43 am

There- don't you feel better now?
Steve ;-)

504. Same Flea, Different Name?

Comment #85961 by steveroot on November 7, 2007 at 3:34 pm

26. Comment #85898 by D'Arcy on November 7, 2007 at 12:43 pm

That is a horrible book cover, right enough. I wonder what "O.P." stands for. I've never come across that before. Old Person?

I may be wrong, but I think OP stands for opening post.

"Obnoxious Prick"? :-)
Steve

505. Judgement Day: Intelligent Design on Trial

Comment #85957 by steveroot on November 7, 2007 at 3:22 pm

I saw this last night as a trailer on the NOVA broadcast. Planning to not miss it!
Steve

506. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85666 by steveroot on November 6, 2007 at 6:53 pm

63. Comment #85660 by Goldy on November 6, 2007 at 5:45 pm
More from the Beeb


A quote from the JW spokesperson in that article:

"Many believe blood equals life and no blood equals death - it is not that simple. Abstaining from blood often cuts out the chance of other diseases and other health outcomes."

Yes. Like DEATH.
Steve

507. Jesus Camp: A scary movie that should frighten us all

Comment #85621 by steveroot on November 6, 2007 at 2:04 pm

27. Comment #85614 by scottishgeologist on November 6, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Be sure to check out the "Baptist sexuality" section and for a real hoot, try the "Hackers for Jesus" link:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0201/hackers.html
It is quite simply pant-wettingly funny....

Praise!
Time to change 'em ;-)
Steve

508. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85617 by steveroot on November 6, 2007 at 1:49 pm

56. Comment #85576 by Bonzai on November 6, 2007 at 8:35 am

At the risk of sounding like a cold hearted bastard, natural selection works in mysterious ways.

Sadly, natural selection does not apply unless the twins also exsanguinate before reproducing.

And, yes... you sound like a cold-hearted bastard! ;-)
Steve

509. Jesus Camp: A scary movie that should frighten us all

Comment #85601 by steveroot on November 6, 2007 at 11:11 am

19. Comment #85473 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 1:35 am
steveroot
That Landover Baptist Church thing...
Please tell me that is not real, that has to be joke surely...???
I haven't seen a smiley face...it can't be Poe's law!!

I didn't think a smiley was necessary. Oops... we're talking about *religion* here. My bad!

Just for grins, look up the "letters" section on LBC... some people really *do* need the smileys, and I know you're not one of them! :-)
Steve

510. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85526 by steveroot on November 6, 2007 at 4:11 am

48. Comment #85516 by windweaver on November 6, 2007 at 3:46 am
To get an insight into just how crazy JWs are when it comes to the issue of blood check this out:

http://www.watchtower.org/e/hb/index.htm

From The Watchtower:

"Have the dangers since been eliminated so that transfusions are now safe? Frankly, each year hundreds of thousands have adverse reactions to blood, and many die."

Bat-Shit Crazy.
Steve

511. Response to Theodore Dalrymple

Comment #85343 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 2:14 pm

26. Comment #85334 by squinky on November 5, 2007 at 1:53 pm
By the way, neanderthals may have been able to speak...

They also may have had red hair!

http://anthropology.net/2007/10/25/red-haired-neandertals/
Steve

512. Jesus Camp: A scary movie that should frighten us all

Comment #85333 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 1:52 pm

10. Comment #85324 by Klaatu barada nikto on November 5, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Landoverbaptist is always funny, but 18 grand for registration. Jesus Chr.. :)

What's a tithe when it comes to keeping Pastor Deacon Fred happy? :->
Steve

513. Jesus Camp: A scary movie that should frighten us all

Comment #85312 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 1:17 pm

1. Comment #85301 by Klaatu barada nikto on November 5, 2007 at 1:03 pm

Now, just issue them assault rifles and the transformation will be complete.

Your wish is granted! :-)

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0703/biblecamp.html
Steve

514. I didn't know the FLEA CIRCUS was back in town!

Comment #85266 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 11:40 am

135. Comment #85253 by phil rimmer on November 5, 2007 at 11:15 am

"Please reconsider. Fleas are ultimately harmless."

Try telling that to a victim of Yersinia pestis! ;-)

I see no reason to ban the WF from the site, FWIW.I doubt he carries anything anyone here is likely to catch.
Steve

515. Mother dies after refusing blood

Comment #85231 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 10:23 am

What a god-damned shame.
@tieInterceptor: it's not eligible for those awards because she has already passed aong her genetic material- in duplicate.

Another "faith" is "christian science". A good friend of my wife took 8 years to die of a squamous cell carcinoma on her eyelid because she was a "good" c. scientist. At her funeral, one of her cultish friends expressed her happiness that the dead one was in a "better place". I nearly vomited on the spot. The woman was a walking skeleton for the last few months before she went to "glory" and, though she never complained, I suspect she was in pain. There is a good book about this cult:
God's Perfect Child: Living and Dying in the Christian Science Church, by Caroline Fraser.
What amazes me is a) how many prominent people are/were CS and b) how they would be willing to let their children die for lack of medical attention (generally and fortunately prevented by legal intervention). Also interesting: CS are allowed to receive dental treatment (it's not *medicine*, after all!) and women are allowed obstetric services. This is the definition of "FUBAR".
Addendum: see
http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/
Steve

516. I didn't know the FLEA CIRCUS was back in town!

Comment #85188 by steveroot on November 5, 2007 at 8:56 am

102. Comment #85168 by BAEOZ on November 5, 2007 at 8:09 am

I'm still working on the theory that Dr. B is an hermaphrodite with a giant cock.
Prove me wrong!

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
Where's the beef? :-)
Steve

(Welcome back, Dr. B!)

517. You big, fat pile of bacteria

Comment #84832 by steveroot on November 3, 2007 at 9:02 pm

11. Comment #84828 by ridelo on November 3, 2007 at 7:01 pm
At the other side of the spectrum: I visited an elderly person in a geriatric clinic. They had a few cases of the 'hospital bacterium' there and they allowed young children (babies!) to come there with their parents.
The nurses were wearing masks when they attended the affected rooms but they said that healthy people shouldn't be afraid of contamination.
Am I a germophobic when I disapprove of this behavior?

Maybe not completely. Assuming the "hospital bacterium" you refer to is MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus), there is justified concern in exposure of very young individuals to this organism. See the Mayo clinic site:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735/DSECTION=1

Here's what they say about the risks of catching it "out and about":

These are the main risk factors for community-acquired (CA) MRSA:

* Young age. CA-MRSA can be particularly dangerous in children. Often entering the body through a cut or scrape, MRSA can quickly cause a wide spread infection. Children may be susceptible because their immune systems aren't fully developed or they don't yet have antibodies to common germs. Children and young adults are also much more likely to develop dangerous forms of pneumonia than older people are.
* Participating in contact sports. CA-MRSA has crept into both amateur and professional sports teams. The bacteria spread easily through cuts and abrasions and skin-to-skin contact.
* Sharing towels or athletic equipment. Although few outbreaks have been reported in public gyms, CA-MRSA has spread among athletes sharing razors, towels, uniforms or equipment.
* Having a weakened immune system. People with weakened immune systems, including those living with HIV/AIDS, are more likely to have severe CA-MRSA infections.
* Living in crowded or unsanitary conditions. Outbreaks of CA-MRSA have occurred in military training camps and in American and European prisons.
* Association with health care workers. People who are in close contact with health care workers are at increased risk of serious staph infections.
Steve

518. Jury Awards Father $11M in Funeral Case

Comment #84231 by steveroot on November 1, 2007 at 1:10 pm

58. Comment #84194 by gr8hands on November 1, 2007 at 12:01 pm

steveroot, no, I tried to get www.gr8hands.com but some dentist already had the website. I thought about complaining to him, but he looked down in the mouth, so I resisted. (sorry for the groaner!)

I've heard it before. :-)
Q: when is it time to see the endodontist?
A: 2:30 (LOL)
Personally, I'd avoid a dentist who had a web site like that ;-)

But if I had Phelps in the chair I could think of a few things I could do to *normalize* his outlook on life. Operative word: "think"! :-) Sadly, I could never do that even to the likes of that scum.
Steve

519. Jury Awards Father $11M in Funeral Case

Comment #84183 by steveroot on November 1, 2007 at 11:39 am

51. Comment #84137 by gr8hands on November 1, 2007 at 9:13 am

Thank you, Sir! Well done.
(Are you a dentist? Inquiring minds...)

And look: we have a TOOL among us! Hi, Hammerhead.
"When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."
Cheerio!
Steve

520. Are the 'New Atheists' avoiding the 'real arguments'?

Comment #84136 by steveroot on November 1, 2007 at 9:08 am

21. Comment #83898 by Friend Giskard on October 31, 2007 at 3:29 pm
I wonder how Edmund Standing feels about having wasted three years of his life studying this shit.

I wouldn't call that time "wasted"! If I could spend three years preparing to write something so cogent, I would consider it time well-spent.
Steve

521. Jury Awards Father $11M in Funeral Case

Comment #84130 by steveroot on November 1, 2007 at 8:38 am

46. Comment #84125 by debaser71 on November 1, 2007 at 8:22 am

The woman also suffered bad burns on her crotch. I think she suffered much more than the family discussed here.

She did something stupid. She burned her sorry crotch. She got some money. Burns heal.
The family of this poor soldier will never be able to remember their son's funeral without the associated memory of these dipthongs' presence.
I think there's a big difference.
Steve

522. Jury Awards Father $11M in Funeral Case

Comment #84114 by steveroot on November 1, 2007 at 7:34 am

I'm all for free expression and tolerance of unpopular points of view. However, the WBC activities, even if technically "protected speech*, are clearly intended to be hurtful. The purpose of free speech is to permit the open dissemination and discussion of ideas without fear of reprisal. Their *must* be an acceptable compromise that allows the slime-balls to express their idiotic point of view while not spoiling the occasion for the mourners. Funerals are for the living; no one should have the memory of their last experience of a loved one marred by such behavior.

How about similar protests at a same-sex marriage? Or *any* marriage? Would this not be considered "disturbing the peace"? Why is it permitted at a funeral? If that dead soldier were my son, I would be quite likely to make his funeral an occasion to remember for at least one of those sphincter suckers. And I'm about as non-violent as they come.
Steve (the submitter! :-) )

523. Lessons in hate found at leading mosques

Comment #83630 by steveroot on October 30, 2007 at 6:02 pm

Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB assistant secretary-general, said: "Bookshops sell a variety of publications and we live in an open, democratic society where it is not illegal to sell books which contain antiWestern views."

Surely, then, in such an open, democratic society it would not be objectionable to publish anti-islamic material (even cartoons!). Fair is fair.

Steve

524. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #83285 by steveroot on October 29, 2007 at 1:58 pm

What's a Dr. Benway?

-a bit less ;-)

Speedy and complete recovery, please! Looking forward to seeing your characteristically terse commentary back on the boards.
Steve

BTW, what's with all the outpouring of sympathy and good wishes from these heartless atheists anyway?? Don't they know that "studies show" that when people know others are - um - wishing them well - yeah, that's it! - that they worry more?
Use the comment space below to present your rebuttal. Let's try and be clear and concise, as if this were to be used in a debate.

525. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #82972 by steveroot on October 28, 2007 at 11:50 am

454. Comment #81608 by Dianelos Georgoudis on October 25, 2007 at 12:58 am
It turns out that religious people donate more than nonreligious people even to secular charities. They donate more of their blood. And so on.

I am a 7 (seven) gallon blood donor and have done platelet pheresis about 25 times. I am registered with the bone marrow bank and will be a donor should the opportunity arise. Even if it is a fundamentalist who has been abandoned by god and needs my help! Just think of all those atheist humors being transfused into the faithful... is it any wonder they begin to question? How satisfying! ;-)
Steve

526. Face to faith

Comment #82851 by steveroot on October 28, 2007 at 3:08 am

8. Comment #82849 by fatcitymax on October 28, 2007 at 2:56 am
The more one learns about science and nature, the more awesome and wonderful they appear--and the more pathetic theism seems. The problem is that most people are too lazy to learn science and mathematics to any depth. It's much easier to believe in magic.

Exactly. The author suggests as much in the fifth paragraph:
"But its nature depends on what you make of the limits of science."
Operative words: "make of", as in "understand".
Steve

527. Debate between Christopher Hitchens and Alister McGrath

Comment #80795 by steveroot on October 23, 2007 at 4:15 am

349. Comment #80781 by Dianelos Georgoudis on October 23, 2007 at 3:14 am
...Let Christian conservatives in particular as well as Christians in general realize which of their beliefs do not stand the challenge of reason.

Have I died and gone to heaven? :-)
Steve

528. Debate between Michael Shermer and Dinesh D'Souza

Comment #80672 by steveroot on October 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm

65. Comment #80567 by steve99 on October 22, 2007 at 7:30 am

Just in case any of you would like to think even less of D'Souza...

http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/10/19/why-atheists-are-not-very-bright/


That was absolutely hilarious. To sum up:

1. Atheists claim that they can know everything.
2. They can't.
3. Therefore God.

Good synopsis! (LOL)
He doesn't understand Argumentum ad Ignorantium either: "the argument that relies on the ignorance of the audience".
Steve

529. Christopher Hitchens at AAI 07

Comment #80590 by steveroot on October 22, 2007 at 9:23 am

181. Comment #80553 by euthyphro on October 22, 2007 at 6:34 am

Therefore it is extraordinarily easy to give an example of a moral action, as accounted so by a religion, which can ONLY be performed by a believer, since righteousness, by definition, requires a relationship with a being whose very existence is denied by athiests and non-believers.

QED. Can we move on, now, please?

By "Q.E.D." (quod erat demonstrandum, "that which was to be proven", more-or-less) you claim a well-demonstrated, logical thought process leading from a premise to the conclusion. This requires more than bible quotes.

Oh, I get it... you were just joking! Silly me.
Steve

530. Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams criticizes popular atheist writers

Comment #80442 by steveroot on October 21, 2007 at 9:07 pm

148. Comment #80243 by octopus on October 21, 2007 at 1:25 am
For some religious people, when you die, you go to afterlife.
Does it happen with mental capacity that you had at moment of death?
For example, if 5 year old boy dies, his mind goes to afterlife as mind of a 5 year old?
If my 98 year old granny dies, would her mind go to afterlife at that particular state?

And what about those ever-present aborted embryos and fetuses? Sitting around comparing their tri-laminar construction, comparing each other to embryos and fetuses of lower life forms? ("You look like a newt!" "Do not!" ... and so forth.) Fascinating.
Steve

531. Report on Hindu god Ram withdrawn

Comment #80074 by steveroot on October 19, 2007 at 9:08 pm

54. Comment #80072 by 82abhilash on October 19, 2007 at 8:30 pm
I am using this opportunity to encourage a new audience to read Hindu scripture.

No offense, but do we have to study *Hindu* leprechology as well? ;-)
Steve

532. Report on Hindu god Ram withdrawn

Comment #80068 by steveroot on October 19, 2007 at 8:03 pm

48. Comment #79469 by Vendetta on October 17, 2007 at 11:17 am
Do you suppose they realize how silly an "army of monkees" is? Is it another victory for cognitive dissonance?

Can't get this out of my head:
"Hey,hey, we're the Monkees!"
Steve

533. Richard Dawkins Replies to David Sloan Wilson

Comment #79697 by steveroot on October 18, 2007 at 7:46 am

79. Comment #61951 by Clevor Trevor on August 7, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Just suppose God listens to prayers - and let's hypothesise that the 1.8 billion (approx) muslims are the favoured ones - and if he gives say 1 minute per prayer (and some of them go on a hell of a lot longer than that) - tell me, where does he find the time to listen, let alone answer them all?

Hyper-intelligent, pan-dimensional beings do not have a problem with this. On your knees!
Steve

534. Debate between Richard Dawkins and John Lennox

Comment #79692 by steveroot on October 18, 2007 at 7:18 am

546. Comment #79690 by steve99 on October 18, 2007 at 7:12 am

Besides, those insects don't have souls, so who cares?
Steve

535. Help Counter the New Atheist Crusade to 'Evangelize' America!

Comment #79691 by steveroot on October 18, 2007 at 7:14 am

65. Comment #79588 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on October 17, 2007 at 9:06 pm

I like the "I love Daddy" item strategically placed to dispel any ideas that you might actually prefer to *eat* children, as atheists are known to do!

;-)

Seriously, that was a nice piece. No psychoanalysis needed AFAIK.
Steve

536. Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams criticizes popular atheist writers

Comment #79514 by steveroot on October 17, 2007 at 2:04 pm

Scottishgeologist, I can do worse Latin!

"O sibili si ergo
For tibus es in ero.
Nobili demis trux.
Sewatis inem?
Cowsendux."

I assume no translation is required!
This is what passes for thought as six of my students perform root canal treatment... since the clinic computers won't play video clips:-(
Steve

537. Do you have to read up on leprechology before disbelieving in them?

Comment #79149 by steveroot on October 16, 2007 at 10:03 am

1281. Comment #79141 by revcort on October 16, 2007 at 9:31 am
"I could try to change Him to make Him more palatable, but that is not why I'm here."

Apparently you have more influence than I realized! ;-)
Steve

538. Richard Dawkins receives the Deschner Prize

Comment #78915 by steveroot on October 15, 2007 at 11:28 am

75. Comment #78909 by Nick Good on October 15, 2007 at 10:52 am

Well, I'm riding my bike to work and saving the gas for you, buddy! ;-)
Steve

539. Richard Dawkins receives the Deschner Prize

Comment #78903 by steveroot on October 15, 2007 at 10:31 am

66. Comment #78896 by steve99 on October 15, 2007 at 9:58 am

Measures that counteract global warming also improve energy efficiency and help reduce dependency on imported oil. They should be done anyway.

Exactly. I'm sorry that Al Gore seems to be such a lightning rod for those who doubt global climate change; that is the only sense in which his efforts may be said to be counterproductive. But what is wrong with practicing conservation *for its own sake*, especially when the per-capita "footprint" in the U.S. is so much larger than most of the rest of the world?
Steve

540. Debate between Richard Dawkins and John Lennox

Comment #78706 by steveroot on October 14, 2007 at 12:03 pm

397. Comment #78698 by epeeist on October 14, 2007 at 11:02 am
Comment #78684 by Dianelos Georgoudis

1. Hypothesis: Richard Dawkins is a conscious subject.
2. Null hypothesis: Richard Dawkins is not a conscious subject.
3. Predict some observation that would have to follow if the null hypothesis were true.

I know! I know! (waves hand furiously please call on me):
The batteries in Richard Dawkins' alarm clock are flat.

Well, maybe not actually *unconscious*, but he didn't stir when I told him to rise in the name of god. Back to the drawing board...
Steve

542. Fox News Attacks 'Godless' Free Thought Radio

Comment #78500 by steveroot on October 13, 2007 at 9:36 am

49. Comment #78436 by mr harry on October 12, 2007 at 9:44 pm

I've seen that one before, and can state with authority that tolerance (in the pharmacologic sense) does not develop after repeated exposure- I practically wet my pants each time I've seen it. Sadly immature for one my age, but DILLIGAF? :-)
Steve

543. Richard Dawkins and Alister McGrath

Comment #78487 by steveroot on October 13, 2007 at 7:51 am

Richard, you may be a prick, but you're a prick with a heart! Thanks for the reminder that life is about more than facts and evidence. And you're spot-on about Veronique (most unique ;-) ), who I hope has no plans to go anywhere anytime soon.
Steve
FWIW, I don't think you or anyone else on these boards is a *prick* in the traditional sense of the word. :-)

544. Muslims tell Christians: 'Make peace with us or survival of world is at stake'

Comment #78485 by steveroot on October 13, 2007 at 7:37 am

Does this seem like it's going to happen anytime soon?

"So what do Muslims need to do? A paradigm shift is essential. Muslims must realise that the awesome strength of Western civilisation – which also made possible its predatory imperialism – springs from accepting the premises of science and logic, respecting democratic institutions (at least within national borders), allowing value systems to evolve, and boldly challenging dogma without being condemned for blasphemy. They must connect the West's success with personal freedom and liberty, superior work ethics, artistic and scientific creativity, and the compulsive urge to innovate and experiment."

That's a tall order...
Steve

545. Fox News Attacks 'Godless' Free Thought Radio

Comment #78285 by steveroot on October 12, 2007 at 11:10 am

Hey! I just found out that atheists think science proves there is no god! Wow!

... this gets the "Mr. Boffo- Unclear on the Concept" award.
Steve

546. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #78270 by steveroot on October 12, 2007 at 10:31 am

1701. Comment #78239 by BillySands on October 12, 2007 at 8:29 am

Then I'm going to make mice with boobs on their backs - but that's another story.

These mice you're developing... are they of the "tufted" variety? You might want to clear that with Dr. Benway. ;-)
Steve

547. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #78219 by steveroot on October 12, 2007 at 7:32 am

1678. Comment #78028 by J.C. Samuelson on October 11, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Goldy, Steveroot, and Lee,

Thanks for the kind words, but as Goldy observes, there will always be something that Mark will pick up on that seems to discredit the evidence. Sorry, Steve, for mangling your name.

I don't think it was you who mangled it, and it doesn't really matter anyway. You obviously have some biblical scholarship in you, and I am impressed. I wish I had the disposition and the time to undertake the study that would get me up to the level of you and numerous others here. Keep up the good work.

As for discrediting the evidence, it's all wrong to some folks. So they just need to make up huge lengthy (apparently random, but often highly creative!) arguments to rebut it. In the end, I don't see many minds being changed.
Steve

548. In honour of Dan Dennett

Comment #78213 by steveroot on October 12, 2007 at 7:11 am

84. Comment #78211 by shaunfletcher on October 12, 2007 at 7:07 am

Well done!
Steve

549. Why Christians should take Richard Dawkins seriously

Comment #77755 by steveroot on October 10, 2007 at 11:58 am

516. Comment #77752 by Dianelos Georgoudis on October 10, 2007 at 11:50 am

But then again the Buddhist may respond that to be curious about such matters does not increase happiness or peace of mind either :-)

Well, for me it does – there is nothing like the happiness and peace of mind that come with understanding.

At the risk of provoking another 1500 word post, I wonder what it is that we've understood here. Perhaps the word ("understanding") is being used in a sense I'm not familiar with. ;-)
Steve

550. Scandal brewing at Oral Roberts U.

Comment #77739 by steveroot on October 10, 2007 at 11:17 am

54. Comment #77735 by skeptic of Skeptics on October 10, 2007 at 10:59 am

"First of all, Steve, I want to say....Nice picture! :)"

Thanks! I think I bear a striking resemblence to Moses, don't you think?
"I was speaking of the God that made the rules....not the little "g" gods..."

How careless of me. Let me re-phrase that:

Now let me see... which God shall I ask for forgiveness? There's Zeus, Quetz, Teapot... I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster feeds my soul's needs best. RaMen!
Steve